Caution! Definitely a scam.

[BikeIowa]

Just saw this and knew it was a scam.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Can-Am-SM5-SE5-/111505816567?forcerrptr=true&hash=item19f643bbf7&item=111505816567

[ARtraveler]

Just saw this and knew it was a scam.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Can-Am-SM5-SE5-/111505816567?forcerrptr=true&hash=item19f643bbf7&item=111505816567

A very unique machine also. its both a manual and a semi auto. :roflblack:

[arntufun]

Why do you say this is a scam ???????? So what, a mistake was made in the description. It's a SE5 from the photos. Starting bid is 1k and the reserve was not met yet. I see no issue with that listing other than he/she should have marked it used. :dontknow:

[PMK]

Why do you say this is a scam ???????? So what, a mistake was made in the description. It's a SE5 from the photos. Starting bid is 1k and the reserve was not met yet. I see no issue with that listing. :dontknow:

I kind of agree. The listing has over 6 days to finish. Has a low starting bid and per the ad a low reserve. Seller has a good ebay rating and he photos seem good.

It could be a scam, but nothing yet has me screaming run away.

PK

[ARtraveler]

Why do you say this is a scam ???????? So what, a mistake was made in the description. It's a SE5 from the photos. Starting bid is 1k and the reserve was not met yet. I see no issue with that listing other than he/she should have marked it used. :dontknow:

It is quacking a little bit like a duck. Those selling fake :spyder2:'s generally don't know what they are talking about--hence--bad descriptions. Have seen that in many scam ads. (Quack!)

I did note that this was a bid price. Will be interesting to see how far it goes. A $1,000 start is a really good deal. We all know that this machine is now going for about $8K or less--because of the year. You know what they are worth as you just sold yours. So, if someone wins the bid at much less... (Quack!)

There are many who get ripped off through E-bay scams. I think a warning to those who are not E-bay savvy, is a good thing.

Time will tell if this was real or not. Posting on SL site is not going to trash someone's legitimate sale--IMO of course.

[bscrive]

akspyderman,

I believe Randy was talking about the original poster who said they thought it was a scam, not you.

I don't believe it is a scam. I think it is legit and the seller doesn't know much about Spyders.

[ARtraveler]

akspyderman,

I believe Randy was talking about the original poster who said they thought it was a scam, not you.

I don't believe it is a scam. I think it is legit and the seller doesn't know much about Spyders.

We are cool. Randy and I go way back and like to spar a bit when we can. It's all in fun.

[DrewNJ]

Looks legit to me. Low starting price but with a reserve so it isn't selling for $1k or anywhere near it.
Also, the spyder is listed as being in Denver Colorado and the license plate on the front of the adjacent vehicle is also from Colorado.

[ARtraveler]

Looks legit to me. Low starting price but with a reserve so it isn't selling for $1k or anywhere near it.
Also, the spyder is listed as being in Denver Colorado and the license plate on the front of the adjacent vehicle is also from Colorado.

I am cool with the whole thing. Couldn't resist the SM5/SE5 thing though. It would be great if this one flies and is legit. A 2009 with less than 200 miles--it just does not get much better than that. Not going to waste anyone's time by doing further research as I am not in the market for another 2009.

I will just sit back and let nature take its course. Over and out.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[DrewNJ]

I will just sit back and let nature take its course. Over and out.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:


What? Do you have to poop?[emoji12] [emoji85]

[hchays]

I would have to agree that it looks like a scam. If you look at the sellers feedback. The names of the buyer/seller does not look right and show a pattern. Also the items that they bought seem a little shady... I think it's a somewhat well thought out scam.

[spydaman60]

that front left tire looks out of wack though.nojoke

[Chupaca]

this would have to be a must see item...agree in some photos the left front wheel seems to turn a lot further than the right. Could be classified as new with that low a mileage but if you change the cluster it starts a "0" again. Wise to run a vin # check...pay with paypal after reciept....:lecturef_smilie:

[bscrive]

With a bike having that low of mileage and it looks like it stays outside all the time. I could see a lot of problems with this bike. My cousin bought a 2009 Yamaha Venture a few years ago on ebay from a dealer with low mileage. He thought that he had got a steal on the bike. It took almost $1000 to get the bike to run right. Better off to buy a bike that is rode than one that sits.

[arntufun]

With a bike having that low of mileage and it looks like it stays outside all the time. I could see a lot of problems with this bike. My cousin bought a 2009 Yamaha Venture a few years ago on ebay from a dealer with low mileage. He thought that he had got a steal on the bike. It took almost $1000 to get the bike to run right. Better off to buy a bike that is rode than one that sits.



I couldn't agree more !!!!! :thumbup:

[ARtraveler]

that front left tire looks out of wack though.nojoke

Good catch. How did I miss that? :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

[DrewNJ]

I think that's just the camera angle guys....look at the 4th pic from behind/right. It looks normal from there.

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

if you are really curious, ask seller a question!!

[Bob Denman]

No doubt; it's gonna need a laser alignment of EPIC proportions! :shocked:
I'd be a bit suspicious of it; but that's just me. ;)

[cuznjohn]

not really sure on this one, i did some research on the seller and he has 41 e bay sales with 100% positive feedback, there is 5 bids on the bike with the last bid of 2025.00. it says there is a very low reserve on the bike but there is 6 days left on the bidding. he might be a dealer trying to get people to look at it, and sellers also have other friends to up the bids to try and sell. so who knows

[Bob Denman]

It's been described as being in "very good condition"...
That left wheel leaves a lot of room for doubt! :shocked:

[shelbydave]

My gripe about these is that the starting bid is so low, but there is no way to tell what the reserve is. It would be nice if the person selling would start the bidding somewhere in the ballpark of the reserve.

[shelbydave]

It's been described as being in "very good condition"...
That left wheel leaves a lot of room for doubt! :shocked:

I see what you're saying, but looking at other pictures, that may be an optical illusion caused by the angle the pic was taken. :dontknow:

[Bob Denman]

I see your point; My guess is that the left tie-rod has a busted end on it, and they're just kicking that wheel around to a convenient spot...
As bad as my eyes are; there's something VERY odd about that left front wheel... :shocked:

[BikeIowa]

Why do you say this is a scam ???????? So what, a mistake was made in the description. It's a SE5 from the photos. Starting bid is 1k and the reserve was not met yet. I see no issue with that listing other than he/she should have marked it used. :dontknow:

My apologies. Forget I posted anything!
Obviously they are knowledgeable about what they have and just didn't proof read their description.
Whats wrong with this description...

"We just bought it but we never used it and we are selling it now with very low reserve. We bought it brand new."

They just bought a brand new 5 year old Spyder but never used it. OK you're right it probably is fine.

[Bob Denman]

The more that this one gets put to the "sniff-test"; the worse it gets... :shocked:

[arntufun]

My apologies. Forget I posted anything!
Obviously they are knowledgeable about what they have and just didn't proof read their description.
Whats wrong with this description...

"We just bought it but we never used it and we are selling it now with very low reserve. We bought it brand new."

They just bought a brand new 5 year old Spyder but never used it. OK you're right it probably is fine.







Let's hold off putting on the tinfoil hats so fast......... :joke:


They bought it new (in 2009) and never used it.. Relax Bro...... even if it was a scam, eBay would reimburse you. Please don't get Bob D. all riled up. :roflblack:

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[bscrive]

Randy, I am worried about you.

First you change your picture at the bottom of your posts and now your avatar.

We seem to be loosing you to the darkside!!!!!!! :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflb lack:

[ARtraveler]

Randy, I am worried about you.

First you change your picture at the bottom of your posts and now your avatar.

We seem to be loosing you to the darkside!!!!!!! :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflb lack:

The force appears to be very strong. :roflblack::roflblack:

[Bob Denman]

:agree: Randy,
Is this some sort of Mid-Life crisis event? :dontknow:

[dndfindley]

Why do you say this is a scam ???????? So what, a mistake was made in the description. It's a SE5 from the photos. Starting bid is 1k and the reserve was not met yet. I see no issue with that listing other than he/she should have marked it used. :dontknow:

Seriously? I mean - really? You don't see the red flags?

[arntufun]

Seriously? I mean - really? You don't see the red flags?



Considering there is already 16 bids over 8k and the reserve is not yet met..................... I don't !!!!!!




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[ARtraveler]

The bid price is now up to over $8,000--which is the going price for that machine.

My big concern would be that funny left front wheel. To me, it appears that it is not attached properly and they forget to line it up on the main photograph. It appears more lined up in the other photos.

Just comments, and not intending to purchase the item or bother the seller with questions.

[cuznjohn]

i think the wheel is just a camera angle distortion i looked closely at it

[SNOOPY]

What is all over the rear fender?

Some accessory?

Why put an accessory on something you never rode?

[arntufun]

What is all over the rear fender?

Some accessory?

Why put an accessory on something you never rode?



Cheap Flag holders.......... On the windshield is a sticker of soldiers raising the flag. He/she must have been some sort of USA lover. :thumbup: