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PrairieSpyder
08-15-2014, 07:03 PM
Older folks remember him well, had even been party to inscribing on our school desks, books, just anywhere at all.

KILROY WAS HERE !



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He is engraved in stone in the National War Memorial in Washington, DC, back in a small alcove where very few people have seen it. For the WWII generation, this will bring back memories. For you younger folks, it's a bit of trivia that is a part of our American history. Anyone born in 1913 to about 1950, is familiar with Kilroy. No one knew why he was so well known- but everybody seemed to get into it.


So who was Kilroy?


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In 1946 the American Transit Association, through its radio program, "Speak to America ," sponsored a nationwide contest to find the real Kilroy, offering a prize of a real trolley car to the person who could prove himself to be the genuine article.


Almost 40 men stepped forward to make that claim, But only James Kilroy from Halifax , Massachusetts , had evidence of his identity.


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'Kilroy' was a 46-year old shipyard worker during the war who worked as a checker at the Fore River Shipyard in Quincy . His job was to go around and check on the number of rivets completed. Riveters were on piecework and got paid by the rivet. He would count a block of rivets and put a check mark in semi-waxed lumber chalk, so the rivets wouldn't be counted twice.


When Kilroy went off duty, the riveters would erase the mark. Later on, an off-shift inspector would come through and count the rivets a second time, resulting in double pay for the riveters.


(Continued in the next post, so I can include more pics)

PrairieSpyder
08-15-2014, 07:10 PM
'Kilroy' was a 46-year old shipyard worker during the war who worked as a checker at the Fore River Shipyard in Quincy . His job was to go around and check on the number of rivets completed. Riveters were on piecework and got paid by the rivet. He would count a block of rivets and put a check mark in semi-waxed lumber chalk, so the rivets wouldn't be counted twice. When Kilroy went off duty, the riveters would erase the mark.

Later on, an off-shift inspector would come through and count the rivets a second time, resulting in double pay for the riveters.


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One day Kilroy's boss called him into his office. The foreman was upset about all the wages being paid to riveters, and asked him to investigate. It was then he realized what had been going on.


The tight spaces he had to crawl in to check the rivets didn't lend themselves to lugging around a paint can and brush, so Kilroy decided to stick with the waxy chalk. He continued to put his check mark on each job he inspected, but added 'KILROY WAS HERE' in king-sized letters next to the check, and eventually added the sketch of the chap with the long nose peering over the fence and that became part of the Kilroy message.

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Once he did that, the riveters stopped trying to wipe away his marks. Ordinarily the rivets and chalk marks would have been covered up with paint. With the war on, however, ships were leaving the Quincy Yard so fast that there wasn't time to paint them. As a result, Kilroy's inspection "trademark" was seen by thousands of servicemen who boarded the troopships the yard produced.

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(Still more to come)

PrairieSpyder
08-15-2014, 07:17 PM
His message apparently rang a bell with the servicemen, because they picked it up and spread it all over Europe and the South Pacific.

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Before war's end, "Kilroy" had been here, there, and everywhere on the long hauls to Berlin and Tokyo . To the troops outbound in those ships, however, he was a complete mystery; all they knew for sure was that someone named Kilroy had "been there first." As a joke, U.S. Servicemen began placing the graffiti wherever they landed, claiming it was already there when they arrived.

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Kilroy became the U.S. Super-GI who had always "already been" wherever GIs went. It became a challenge to place the logo in the most unlikely places imaginable (it is said to be atop Mt. Everest, the Statue of Liberty, the underside of The Arc de Triomphe, and even scrawled in the dust on the moon. )

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(To be continued)

PrairieSpyder
08-15-2014, 07:24 PM
As the war went on, the legend grew. Underwater demolition teams routinely sneaked ashore on Japanese-held islands in the Pacific to map the terrain for coming invasions by U.S. Troops (and thus, presumably, were the first GI's there).


On one occasion, however, they reported seeing enemy troops painting over the Kilroy logo!

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In 1945, an outhouse was built for the exclusive use of Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill at the Potsdam conference. Its' first occupant was Stalin, who emerged and asked his aide (in Russian), "Who is Kilroy?"

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To help prove his authenticity in 1946, James Kilroy brought along officials from the shipyard and some of the riveters. He won the trolley car, which he gave to his nine children as a Christmas gift and set it up as a playhouse in the Kilroy yard in Halifax , Massachusetts ..

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(Just one more!)

PrairieSpyder
08-15-2014, 07:27 PM
And the tradition continues . . .

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EVEN Outside Osama Bin Laden's House!!!


And God bless all our World War II veterans !

jerpinoy
08-15-2014, 07:31 PM
Thanks, now I know who is kilroy.

ChasCS
08-15-2014, 07:34 PM
There are others too...

http://www.famousdrawings.org/baroque/


Who knew? ;-)

Chas

wyliec
08-15-2014, 08:27 PM
Thank you.

Chupaca
08-15-2014, 09:31 PM
guess I'm that old...:banghead: Remember writing it as well but never knew the whole story.. Thanks..!! :2thumbs:

M109Dreamer
08-15-2014, 10:12 PM
Its still alive and well in Iraq and Afghanistan. Saw it several times over the past 4 years.
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retired1
08-16-2014, 07:01 AM
Thanks for the history lesson. I never knew the origin of the drawing before today.

Bob Denman
08-16-2014, 08:22 AM
Thanks, Patti!! :clap: :thumbup:
A great story for a Saturday morning... :D

ARtraveler
08-16-2014, 01:58 PM
Thanks Prairie Spyder. I am old enough to know about Kilroy, but you sure gave us a lot of facts that I did not know. Now, if all history lessons could be this interesting...:yes::yes::yes:

jScotD
08-16-2014, 10:02 PM
his name is Kilroy Collins ..he owns KC's a pool hall i visit

SNOOPY
08-17-2014, 07:17 AM
I only knew this "Kilroy was here", now I know another...


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilroy_Was_Here_(album)


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Roboto


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Bob Denman
08-17-2014, 08:03 AM
No... Now you've finally learned about the "Real" Kilroy! :D :2thumbs:

mowin
08-17-2014, 03:00 PM
Learn something new everyday. Thanks for sharing.