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900Dave
08-03-2014, 04:43 PM
Tire thread:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

I just took some good pics of my POS rear Kenda today 6804 miles. So I was bored this evening and decided to post them. This tire has never been inflated over 28psi and the last 3000 miles it has been at 24 to 25 psi (that did not help one bit). It is also not an RT so the assomption that the abnormal wear is due to the extra weight is probably false.

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Bob Denman
08-03-2014, 04:47 PM
I guess that it's time for you to re-tire... :D :roflblack:

900Dave
08-03-2014, 04:58 PM
I guess that it's time for you to re-tire... :D :roflblack:

YEP! Kumho is on the way. I will not change it right away. I will get all I can out of the Kenda. I will install the Kumho right before I go to North Carolina in late August.

Bob Denman
08-03-2014, 05:00 PM
I think that you should celebrate the passing of the Kenda, by toasting it... :thumbup:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDRcgITTrtk

Eagle1
08-03-2014, 05:10 PM
I am amazed at the big differences reported on tire performance of the OEM tires. I have a 2010 rt and ride two up all the time and don't spare the throttle. The rear tire pressure is at, 28psi, rear shock at, 60 psi and I am at 12,323. I am going to change it out within the next, 1000 miles. Why would there be a, 5-6000 mile difference?? :chat:

Cruzr Joe
08-03-2014, 05:11 PM
YEP! Kumho is on the way. I will not change it right away. I will get all I can out of the Kenda. I will install the Kumho right before I go to North Carolina in late August.



For safety's sake, i would change that as soon as possible, but that's just me.

Cruzr Joe

cuznjohn
08-03-2014, 05:14 PM
is that a really big penny

Bob Denman
08-03-2014, 05:14 PM
:agree: But I'd "burn it down", before it came off! :2thumbs:
With a center section looking like that; it's just waiting for a chance, to give you a lesson in hydroplaning! :shocked:
One that you'd never forget! :yikes:

PW2013STL
08-03-2014, 05:26 PM
I am amazed at the big differences reported on tire performance of the OEM tires. I have a 2010 rt and ride two up all the time and don't spare the throttle. The rear tire pressure is at, 28psi, rear shock at, 60 psi and I am at 12,323. I am going to change it out within the next, 1000 miles. Why would there be a, 5-6000 mile difference?? :chat:

I heard that BRP has now gone back to the 2012 tire specs. This tells me that they changed how they were made in 2013. If this is true than that would explain why so many 2014's and now 2013 are wearing out so fast compared to earlier years.

spyryder
08-03-2014, 05:27 PM
Mine's looking good, 11,000 miles 20 PSI.

Bob Denman
08-03-2014, 05:31 PM
I heard that BRP has now gone back to the 2012 tire specs. This tells me that they changed how they were made in 2013. If this is true than that would explain why so many 2014's and now 2013 are wearing out so fast compared to earlier years.

My 2010 went 7,000 miles, and was shot... The Kendas up front gave me VERY good service; over 17,000 miles.
The rears... nope! :shocked:

900Dave
08-03-2014, 05:48 PM
For safety's sake, i would change that as soon as possible, but that's just me.

Cruzr Joe

From now until 8/20 I will be only somewhat local. So if it is raining I will most likely not be on the road. But who know's, I may replace it earlier than that. Besides there is a lot of tread on the outside to sweep the water away.:roflblack::roflblack:

900Dave
08-03-2014, 05:54 PM
Mine's looking good, 11,000 miles 20 PSI.


I ride 2 up most of the time and was afraid to go that low on pressure. I thought I was pushing it at 24.

spyryder
08-03-2014, 06:00 PM
I ride 2 up most of the time and was afraid to go that low on pressure. I thought I was pushing it at 24.
I'm usually one up but with the lighter load I do get a fair amount of wheel spin in first and second. ;)

Chupaca
08-03-2014, 08:18 PM
I got 22,000 but used the manufacturer's wear limit point...92650 There is a wear bar accross that triangle on the edge of the tire..:thumbup:

Dan_Ashley
08-03-2014, 09:11 PM
I am amazed at the big differences reported on tire performance of the OEM tires. I have a 2010 rt and ride two up all the time and don't spare the throttle. The rear tire pressure is at, 28psi, rear shock at, 60 psi and I am at 12,323. I am going to change it out within the next, 1000 miles. Why would there be a, 5-6000 mile difference?? :chat:
The older tires were better. The newer ones are junk.

jwulf74
08-03-2014, 10:41 PM
Those Kumho's are getting hard to find. I did manage to snag 2 from a site today and will hopefully get them next week. My 2011 tire at just slightly over 10,000 looks like the one in the original post.

HuckFin
08-03-2014, 11:16 PM
Mine's looking good, 11,000 miles 20 PSI.

I have been thinking about trying 20 lbs. in the rear tire too, as light as my RS-S is, I would not think I need 30 lbs. of air in a tire of this size. Only problem is, I understand these Kenda tires when running lower tire pressures, balloon out at freeway speeds and that has been the only thing holding me back. By the way how does your Spyder handle hard cornering with the 20 PSI tire?

spyryder
08-04-2014, 12:01 AM
I have been thinking about trying 20 lbs. in the rear tire too, as light as my RS-S is, I would not think I need 30 lbs. of air in a tire of this size. Only problem is, I understand these Kenda tires when running lower tire pressures, balloon out at freeway speeds and that has been the only thing holding me back. By the way how does your Spyder handle hard cornering with the 20 PSI tire?

I was running recommended pressures for the first few thousand miles and noticed the center wearing more than the edges early on. The tire would also skip or bounce over cracks in the road surface under hard acceleration and the vss would activate occasionally, causing the engine to sputter. Lowering the pressure cured that completely and softened the ride also.
Handling feels fine under hard cornering too. As far as freeway speeds, I'm not sure since I'm not on the highway all that much, but there were some reports a few years back from other riders where lower pressures showed good results and tires wearing evenly at highway speeds.

DragonSpyder
08-04-2014, 06:16 AM
My 2008 would wear in the middle around every 6K miles. Much sooner than others and discovered it was because of the speed I was running at. The faster you go the quicker the center will wear. Does not matter what tire pressure your run, it's due to the 2 ply design!

Highwayman2013
08-04-2014, 06:30 AM
Another tire thread....:chat:

Bob Denman
08-04-2014, 06:34 AM
What do you want? :dontknow:
The Boss says "PG-13"
So we really can't talk much about sex...
What else is left? :D

Oh... I forgot about helmets!! :roflblack:

spyryder
08-04-2014, 07:44 AM
My 2008 would wear in the middle around every 6K miles. Much sooner than others and discovered it was because of the speed I was running at. The faster you go the quicker the center will wear. Does not matter what tire pressure your run, it's due to the 2 ply design!
What pressures were you running at?

wyliec
08-04-2014, 07:51 AM
Another tire thread....:chat:

I think it would be difficult to find a thread that had a subject that hasn't been discussed previously, except the off topic board.

DragonSpyder
08-04-2014, 08:52 AM
What pressures were you running at?


Tried everything from 24 - 30lbs. Settled on 28lbs but after 30K miles I can assure you pressure makes little to no difference in the wear.

Bob Denman
08-04-2014, 08:57 AM
:agree: Run 'em however you like, and replace when the center section is shot... :shocked:

BLUEKNIGHT911
08-04-2014, 09:12 AM
:gaah:.............Let the " FLAMING " begin........IMHO it's KENDA that's to blame here ( and BRP because they use them ) . They are a low cost ( to BRP ) and poor quality tire ..period .....And if the KENDA tire SUPPORTERS are going to start flaming me now.................Please include all the Names of the Race car drivers ( who we might have heard of ) who recommend them ......also the Race car teams that use them ..........................or else don't tell me how great they are................................Oh and please don't say " DANICA PATRICK " .............she's paid by BRP to say it ...................................Mikeguyver :thumbup:

spyryder
08-04-2014, 09:45 AM
Tried everything from 24 - 30lbs. Settled on 28lbs but after 30K miles I can assure you pressure makes little to no difference in the wear.
24 is still too much....you need to go lower than that to make a difference.

HuckFin
08-04-2014, 10:22 AM
24 is still too much....you need to go lower than that to make a difference.

Thanks, I will give it a shot, most of my riding is on back roads any way.

spyryder
08-04-2014, 01:01 PM
It's been widely accepted as fact that the Kenda was a 2 ply tire.....it's a 3 ply! I never bothered checking till today. :opps:

sddinnh
08-04-2014, 01:07 PM
What do you want? :dontknow:
The Boss says "PG-13"
So we really can't talk much about sex...
What else is left? :D

Oh... I forgot about helmets!! :roflblack:

AND oil :pray:

Bob Denman
08-04-2014, 01:25 PM
It's been widely accepted as fact that the Kenda was a 2 ply tire.....it's a 3 ply! I never bothered checking till today. :opps:
Ahhhh... But the sidewalls... :D

spyryder
08-04-2014, 01:37 PM
Ahhhh... But the sidewalls... :D

I looked at my car and it's also a 1 ply sidewall. :p

jerpinoy
08-04-2014, 01:48 PM
I think that you should celebrate the passing of the Kenda, by toasting it... :thumbup:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDRcgITTrtk

This proves more money is wasted.

900Dave
08-04-2014, 04:57 PM
I got 22,000 but used the manufacturer's wear limit point...92650 There is a wear bar accross that triangle on the edge of the tire..:thumbup:

I know were that is at but it dont matter. The center of the tire is bald/no tread left. It has to get changed out with a new tire from a reputable tire manufacturer.
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Jeriatric
08-05-2014, 02:01 AM
I am amazed at the big differences reported on tire performance of the OEM tires. I have a 2010 rt and ride two up all the time and don't spare the throttle. The rear tire pressure is at, 28psi, rear shock at, 60 psi and I am at 12,323. I am going to change it out within the next, 1000 miles. Why would there be a, 5-6000 mile difference?? :chat:

2011 RT...replaced rear at 18, xxx, still had a couple thou in it when it was replaced. Replaced with another Kenda....if it ends up being a low mileage tire because BRP went for a compound change and screwed things up. It'll be the last Kenda to go on(their fault...not mine). Time will tell. Note to BRP. If it ain't broke....don't monkey with it. You have more than enough unresolved problems. Don't ya know?

BLUEKNIGHT911
08-05-2014, 07:37 AM
2011 RT...replaced rear at 18, xxx, still had a couple thou in it when it was replaced. Replaced with another Kenda....if it ends up being a low mileage tire because BRP went for a compound change and screwed things up. It'll be the last Kenda to go on(their fault...not mine). Time will tell. Note to BRP. If it ain't broke....don't monkey with it. You have more than enough unresolved problems. Don't ya know?
:dontknow:....#1, Why do you think BRP has any expertise in formulating tire compounds .............IMHO I lay this issue at the feet of KENDA........The #1 maker of Performance Tires.... " NOT ".......Mikeguyver :thumbup:

Bob Denman
08-05-2014, 07:54 AM
In defense of Kenda... :shocked:
They didn't exactly say what kind of "performance"; did they? :roflblack:

billrob71
08-05-2014, 11:16 AM
Not sure why these do that, I run my rear tire at 25 and the center on mine is still wearing more, about 2/32 difference. Granted im not easy on the tire and I expected not to get the best life out of it. I like the looks of the maxxis victra ma -z4s, think thats the one im gonna get, car tire but the tread pattern is very close to the kenda.