Spyder or 1980s Hyundai

[Electro_cat]

I traded my 2010 gold wing for a 2008 rs spyder. The spyder has 5000miles on it... My thought was that it would be an all weather bike. Rode this bike for 2 weeks and one day it just died out right in the alley way. Had to push it 1/4 mile back to the house.Had them pick it up. They got it to me a week later . Now the dps ..fss and anything else this thing can come up with is popping up. And I have some kind of orange gecko looking thing on the speedometer side ...it goes into "limp home mode"...I hate this motorcycle now . And it has seriously screwed with my life. ! So now I'm stuck with an undependable-1980s Hyundai of a motorcycle...how can I make this thing work for me? So far I think getting one of these was an EPIC MISTAKE ..and seriously , I am even considering taking the hit and voluntary repo ing it...I am disgusted and hate these motorcycles now.

[ARtraveler]

Sorry to hear of your woes. It truly sounds like you are the perfect candidate for divesting of the 08 Spyder. Even at any cost or repossession as you mentioned.

I am not offering much advice since it looks like you have your mind made up and just wanted to do what we call a rant post.

It does sound like you bought someone's cast off.

[Dan McNally]

...I am disgusted and hate these motorcycles now.

I'm sorry you are having problems, but aren't you being a little harsh . . . you bought a machine with 50,000 miles on it, don't know what is wrong with it (could be something minor . . . or not) . . . and you now hate them all? Dad always referred to buying a used vehicle as "buying someone else's problems."

What did the dealer say?

[Electro_cat]

I'm sorry you are having problems, but aren't you being a little harsh . . . you bought a machine with 50,000 miles on it, don't know what is wrong with it (could be something minor . . . or not) . . . and you now hate them all? Dad always referred to buying a used vehicle as "buying someone else's problems."

What did the dealer say?
Wrong . It has 5000 miles not 50k I would never buy a motorcycle with that many miles.
yes they are betas.
did you read my post ? Or skim it.? Smh ?
the dealer/scam artist told me it was a sensor...but they brought it back and now it is worse.

[Electro_cat]

we need alot more information in order to help you.
So did you read my post? I don't know how much more info I can give.

[Oldmanzues]

Hate to be mean, but what is the vaue of a 2010 Wing ? I would think it was much more then a 08 Spyder. the next thing with any motorcycle anymore, real low miles on a older machine. Some said, 50,000 I read 5,000 miles. Motorcycles sit around and things go bad. I seem to remember from somewhere, real low miles for older Wings usually result in $1,200 car rebuild.
But as said above, what is going on ? Step by Step. There are people on here that will try and usually do a lot ot help, if you give them the facts.Do you have owners manual ?

As a example, a lot of Spyderws will go into limp mode if you barely touch the brakes for a few seconds with using the. Fix: Shut off take out and wait five mins. Restart and watch you foot barely touch the pedal.

[Electro_cat]

FIRST THEY GAVE ME A LOT FOR MY TRADE...
SECOND : I am a pilot , I am an electronics tech, I am an internet tech support rep. The reason I am saying this is because I don't need people assuming I am an empty head.
THIRD: I already posted what is going on.
Fourth : been on bikes 25 years. I know how to ride and I thus riding the brake is not something I do.
Fifth: repeating. Have some orange gecko indicator on the spedo side. Have no frakin idea what it is. Have scoured the net . No info on that. Have Vss ,dps ...no idea why. Shop said they fixed it. It is far worse. Bike was conking out. Now it in limp home mode.
All of this info was in my beginning post .
The LEMON HAS 5000 miles on it. NOT 50k
Lemony goodness...







Hate to be mean, but what is the vaue of a 2010 Wing ? I would think it was much more then a 08 Spyder. the next thing with any motorcycle anymore, real low miles on a older machine. Some said, 50,000 I read 5,000 miles. Motorcycles sit around and things go bad. I seem to remember from somewhere, real low miles for older Wings usually result in $1,200 car rebuild.
But as said above, what is going on ? Step by Step. There are people on here that will try and usually do a lot ot help, if you give them the facts.Do you have owners manual ?

As a example, a lot of Spyderws will go into limp mode if you barely touch the brakes for a few seconds with using the. Fix: Shut off take out and wait five mins. Restart and watch you foot barely touch the pedal.

[otter28169]

I had 5000 miles on my spyder in less than 5 months of ryding. Sounds like you bought a disaster that may or may not have had the required recall work done on it. I will be over 20,000 miles by the end of the weekend and have never seen "limp mode".

Just sayin'............

[retread]

The first thing I'd suspect would be a bad battery, right after that, some serious corrosion in/on the battery connections. An '08 with only 5K miles was more than likely an occassional ride, and possibly not up to date in the firmware or anything else. Have the dealer check it out.

john

[Electro_cat]

The first thing I'd suspect would be a bad battery, right after that, some serious corrosion in/on the battery connections. An '08 with only 5K miles was more than likely an occassional ride, and possibly not up to date in the firmware or anything else. Have the dealer check it out.

john
Had the dealer check it out. They said they fixed it. ..I feel like I'm spinning my wheels here. I had them check it out and they said they test rode it ten miles ..

[Electro_cat]

I had 5000 miles on my spyder in less than 5 months of ryding. Sounds like you bought a disaster that may or may not have had the required recall work done on it. I will be over 20,000 miles by the end of the weekend and have never seen "limp mode".

Just sayin'............
Well I hope you never see limp home mode. As it is. I'm hyper screwed . I have this POS and I have to eat it.

[Chupaca]

gotta say if this is the first incident seems a hasty reaction. Have you read any...on this site..?? You could have loose battery connections which will give you all the faults you are talking about. Did you pull up any codes..?? Your techy should be easy for you and the spyder code app will let you know what is going on and what to do about it. With all your credencials you above all should realize these are computer driven system with many possible problems. Give up if you must but in my opinion you did not give the 08 a fair chance...they are great machine if its what you want...:thumbup:

[Electro_cat]

gotta say if this is the first incident seems a hasty reaction. Have you read any...on this site..?? You could have loose battery connections which will give you all the faults you are talking about. Did you pull up any codes..?? Your techy should be easy for you and the spyder code app will let you know what is going on and what to do about it. With all your credencials you above all should realize these are computer driven system with many possible problems. Give up if you must but in my opinion you did not give the 08 a fair chance...they are great machine if its what you want...:thumbup:

Ok so I have no manuals on this lemon. I have no one telling me anything in here. ...I checked the battery cables . I checked the fuses . ..i do not know how to access the computer interface. Is it obd2 ? I could interface my Bluetooth obd2 and read the diags off my tablet . I HAVE ASKED QUESTION IN HERE . AND NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOWi...I have scoured the net . Nothing on that orange gecko light on the dash ...so yea I checked all the normal stuff . But nothing ! And this message board is of little help. You guys seem like a nice bunch. But I'm not finding answers here. Is it because I am a woman? I get a lot of static at flight school from guys...not sure why...it would for starters be nice to have a PDF a data sheet a tattoo off a drunken sailers ass. Anything! with some information on it. I need to access codes , what the lights mean on the dash . (The ones that are not obvious ) I could use more info. But it is not to be found! Yes I am a tech. Yes I am a pilot (student ) but even with the cessna skyhawk R model I have access to much information ...so I was under the apparent mistaken impression that I could ask and receive some kinda info. But the nerve damage in my right hand is getting aggravated from typing a book and getting no answers. ..and I'll be honest I'm getting a bit stressed and emotional . ..so lemony freshness. All this effort for nothing.

[spyryder]

You can download your owners manual here:

http://www.brp.ca/spyder/owners/guides-and-information.html ;)

[M109Dreamer]

I think the first thing would be to pull the codes. If you have an android phone go to the google store and search Spyder Codes. Download the app. Once downloaded it has a step-by-step how to pull the codes for your particular model. Once you have the codes, you can then go to the "codes" page in the app and it will tell you where to start. Hope this helps.
As for a maintenance manual, i bought off ebay from green manuals, was arouns $25 a couple years ago.

The app is also in the apple version as well.

[Electro_cat]

You can download your owners manual here:

http://www.brp.ca/spyder/owners/guides-and-information.html ;)


Odd but but I tried that site . It show me the cover but does not download or show me any other pages. It might not be compatible with iPad (a device I use because foreflight for aviation won't work on android tablets) I'm tired of messing with this . I need alcohol...

[Electro_cat]

I think the first thing would be to pull the codes. If you have an android phone go to the google store and search Spyder Codes. Download the app. Once downloaded it has a step-by-step how to pull the codes for your particular model. Once you have the codes, you can then go to the "codes" page in the app and it will tell you where to start. Hope this helps.
As for a maintenance manual, i bought off ebay from green manuals, was arouns $25 a couple years ago.

The app is also in the apple version as well.
Yea I will check it out . Do you know what that orange gecko indicator is?

[M109Dreamer]

Yea I will check it out . Do you know what that orange gecko indicator is?
I am guessing what you are seeing is the outline picture of the Spyder with the corresponding limp mode. That what it sounds like from you discription.

Whats the year make and model of you Spyder. I didnt catch that in the thread?

[Electro_cat]

I am guessing what you are seeing is the outline picture of the Spyder with the corresponding limp mode. That what it sounds like from you discription.

Whats the year make and model of you Spyder. I didnt catch that in the thread?
So I put all the info on my first post. Which nobody reads ...

[M109Dreamer]

So I put all the info on my first post. Which nobody reads ...
My bad. People read the posts and everyone is here on SL is here to help, some things get missed as people read through the thread.

[spyryder]

If it's #5 in the pic then that would be the vss light(vehicle stability system). Normally that would only light up under low traction conditions like wheel spin, fishtailing etc.

[Electro_cat]

If it's #5 in the pic then that would be the vss light(vehicle stability system). Normally that would only light up under low traction conditions like wheel spin, fishtailing etc.

that helps. Thanks...I bought a lemon. I can't catch a f ing break . I'm going to dump this damn thing ..spyders might be good motorcycle. I guess I will never get to know.

[IndyRSS]

You didn't mention in your post whether its a Can Am dealer you are working with or a not. If it isn't a Can Am dealer definitely get it to one. If it is - I would suggest taking it to another. You might also call a reputable dealer even if they aren't in your area and ask to speak to thier tech and explain your situation. There are lots of threads on great dealers across the country that would likely listen to your issue and suggest possible faults. The dealer has nothing to gain by not fixing your bike - so if there are issues then they might just need a hint of what to try next - especially if they arent a can Am Dealer.

I bought a used one myself and feared it had not been treated well. I found a dealer about 100 miles from me was super helpful over the phone and I ended up doing business with them later on.

[spyryder]

Here's some basic gauge cluster troubleshooting from the owners manual:

[ChasCS]

Sorry, reading about your obvious Spyder plight must be upsetting for you, understandable. You might have to do a search for the best local Spyder sales and service in your area, and have an honest evaluation done there.

It's too bad some dealerships, don't take their Can Sm Spyder sales much more seriously.

I hope you can find the nearest shop that gives you proper care and correct answers to your questions.

Please keep us informed what goes down. Thanks.

Wishing for you, much Better luck in the near future.
Oh, by the way, I never even considered that you are a female, anyway that shouldn't matter these days, where equality seems to be the norm we strive for.

Rooting for you to be another winner here.


Chas

[jvicker]

A good chunk of the '08's had DPS (dynamic power steering) issues and needed to be replaced. There was actually a recall. Make sure all the recall issues were taken care of. This may be the cause of the "orange gecko" and limp mode.

[joebryanjr]

You can also purchase the service and repair manual from www.brpmanuals.com. $23.50 would be a good investment.
You might also check to see if your dealer has a BRP certified technician. Many do not. If not, I suggest you find one that does.
there are many on this forum who have many thousands of trouble free miles on Spyders of all vintages and models.

[ulflyer]

So I put all the info on my first post. Which nobody reads ...


Dump the SOB, its clear you will never be satisfied with it now that you've had so much trouble. Sorry.

[Bob Denman]

I'll admit that my eyes glassed-over about a third of the way through your initial tirade... :shocked:
Ex-Winger... got that
5K; I got that too...
Pilot... ditto
pissed off... gotcha! :thumbup:

Now: How much actual riding experience do you have?
Were you covering the brake with your foot?
(Doing that can cause all sorts of fits within the electricals...)
As a pilot; you're aware of just how fussy electronic systems can be.
Something is setting your bike's off Big-Time! :yikes:
I'd look to the battery condition, ground straps to the frame, your foot riding the pedal...
It's a process; you can get through it!
Please just take it one agonizing step at a time, and let us know what you find; good luck! :thumbup:

[DrewNJ]

Dump the SOB, its clear you will never be satisfied with it now that you've had so much trouble. Sorry.
I was thinking the exact same thing. ....[emoji57]

[Spyder ri]

By chance, did someone install an aftermarket HID headlight kit on your spyder? The codes you see are the exact codes mine threw when I attempted to install a non-brp HID kit.... It stalled also and would not start.

[SpyderAnn01]

Look, Electro Cat, you come here looking for answers and you have been rather rude in your approach. You are expecting everyone here to give you answers but you don't seem to be looking for any on your own. You bought a 6 year old machine with 5,000 miles on it which means it probably wasn't maintained and hasn't had all of the updates.

You have been given instructions on how to download the Owner's Manual, an app for looking up error codes and places to purchase and download a Service Manual. Now go read all of that and if you still have questions then come back here and ask them without getting rude in your replies. If you can't do that then you need to go to time out.

[Jeriatric]

:agree:

[bill pitman]

Starting to sound like a trolling expedition.....
Orange Gecko = VSS Fault

[steve0530]

So did you read my post? I don't know how much more info I can give.
Just got done reading the thread and have come to the conclusion that the young lady was looking for an instant answer, when there is none. And seems to have a little complex, thinking everyone is out to get her because she is a female.
you folks went out of your way to help, I am not so sure I would have been so nice.

[robmorg]

Electro Cat,

I could be wrong, but you don't sound like an Internet troll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)) to me, even though your posts are coming off that way. You sound like someone who bought an older unfamiliar machine to ride, and it is giving you problems, making it undependable, and you very angry and frustrated. If indeed that is the case, then the people on this forum CAN and WILL help you, if you just cut back on the emotion, and give them the facts to work with. In that regard, Ann just gave you some very good advice. If you are serious about getting help, I would do what you can to follow it. And by the way, Ann would normally be one of the first folks here to help you.

As was just mentioned, if you re-read this thread with a cool mind, you have ALREADY been given some very good advise on places to start looking. I'll just point you back to a couple of them....

1. In post #15, spyryder gave you a link to the BRP website where you can download a manual for your machine in .pdf format. You SHOULD be able to do that with an iPad, or any laptop or PC. I'd try again.

2. In post #27, jvicker addressed the DPS fault and mentioned that it was prevalent in your model year. Someone else said that could be caused by corrosion in the electrical system, which could be quite likely in your case. (Also, in your original post, could you have meant "vss" rather than "fss"?) These may well be the places to start the discussion with a good Can Am repair facility. And that leads to the third post I'll point you to...

3. In post #24, IndyRSS gave you some very good advise about how to seek reliable help in your location. I couldn't agree more with what was said there. As has been stated, these are complicated machines run by a rather sophisticated computer (the ECM). It generally takes a BRP certifed technician to diagnose complicated problems like yours, and they have the computer software available to read a lot more from your machine than just the fault codes. You list your location as "Twycross". If you are in the UK, you may have fewer dealers with certified repair shops to choose from but there are a few dealers listed within 100 or so km of you. If you are not in the UK and could be more specific about your location, someone will point you to some good repair facilities. Also the BRP website contains a dealer search engine.

Best of luck getting your problem sorted out. Sorry to be so verbose.

[autoexacto]

Too much bitching IMHO :gaah:..to me this is a friendly forum to express your needs and if help available great, if not, well you have you look in other places but NOT be ps´off at the forum´s member. Personally I did not know that you were a female and actually that is not relevant (fem vs. male)...I am new at the Spyder experience but NOT NEW on forums or motorcycles. Think that and like other colleagues stated, you got a bad used unit and it can happen to any of us. I just returned to the dealer my 2014 BMW R1200RT-LC with ONLY 3800 kms bc of a recall so if that happens to a new unit, more to an used unit with many years on its belt. Don´t get offended by my opinion and if you were close I would help you sort out your Spyder problem. Greeting from Mexico and SMILE....:ohyea:

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

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[coz]

EVERYONE BE SURE TO READ ELECTRO CAT'S MEMBER INTRO. ON THE LADY SPYDERLOVERS PAGE. YOU'LL BE VERY IMPRESSED. :thumbup:

[Big Arm]

yep....TROLL....probably won't hear from her again.....I mean, hope not....

[hchays]

I think that you need to work on your personal issues before you worry about fixing the Spyder. If you have treated it like you have the people on this site that are clearly trying to help you then I understand why it doesn't run. I can only guess how thankful the dealer is for your purchase. Lol.. If you want help then ask for it, listen to what is offered and act on it. After all your a pilot, electrical engineer and god only knows what else so use all your knowledge to figure out people skills. Then please come back and enjoy the site and your Spyder.

[DrewNJ]

ElectroCat,
Where are you located?
I agree that you should dump that non-running POS. When you get a sec send me a message and maybe we can work out a deal and I will take that POS off your hands. I've got a nice stack of cash to bring your way that will likely better suit your needs vs. That non-running spyder.
Doug

[Bob Denman]

EVERYONE BE SURE TO READ ELECTRO CAT'S MEMBER INTRO. ON THE LADY SPYDERLOVERS PAGE. YOU'LL BE VERY IMPRESSED. :thumbup:

:shocked: ...And I thought that my own manners were bad... :shocked:
I actually thought that I was trying to help with the info that I gave...
It appears to have been wasted.

[wyliec]

ElectroCat,
Where are you located?
I agree that you should dump that non-running POS. When you get a sec send me a message and maybe we can work out a deal and I will take that POS off your hands. I've got a nice stack of cash to bring your way that will likely better suit your needs vs. That non-running spyder.
Doug

My 2008 is running fine. How about offering me some of that stack for my spyder? If it'll help, I can become rude/insulting.

[ARtraveler]

Yes folks, the intro seems to say it all. :yikes:

[DrewNJ]

My 2008 is running fine. How about offering me some of that stack for my spyder? If it'll help, I can become rude/insulting.
Haha...no insults needed. I'm looking for a basket case machine to do an RSV swap with.......unless your selling cheap!

[SpyderAnn01]

Shame on me, I assumed that Veronica (1 c) was a guy. :opps:

Ann (no E)

[wyliec]

Haha...no insults needed. I'm looking for a basket case machine to do an RSV swap with.......unless your selling cheap!

Sorry, no can do.

[DrewNJ]

Sorry, no can do.
Believe me, i understand. [emoji41]

[Mike,P]

I've come to the conclusion,, I'm GLAD she doesn't live at my house :)

[ChasCS]

I never met a Veronica, that I didn't like...

Then I seen you in your motorcycle boots, wow!!

https://www.twitter.com/VeronicaHorror

Veronica, Please call me... 😡

Chas

[DrewNJ]

I never met a Veronica, that I didn't like...

Then I seen you in your motorcycle boots, wow!!

https://www.twitter.com/VeronicaHorror

Veronica, Please call me... 😡

Chas
WOW! Beautiful!

[eddie j henry]

I bought an 08 SPYDER from a member on this forum. It was the best thing that I could have done. Have not had a anything go wrong with it. I love my spyder

[PMK]

Haha...no insults needed. I'm looking for a basket case machine to do an RSV swap with.......unless your selling cheap!

:bowdown::thumbup:

PK

[Bob Denman]

WOW! Beautiful!
Beauty comes from within...
I'm not so sure! :shocked:

[sddinnh]

Aren't you guys done "playing" with this thread yet :yikes:

[MikeinGA]

I traded my 2010 gold wing for a 2008 rs spyder. The spyder has 5000miles on it... My thought was that it would be an all weather bike. Rode this bike for 2 weeks and one day it just died out right in the alley way. Had to push it 1/4 mile back to the house.Had them pick it up. They got it to me a week later . Now the dps ..fss and anything else this thing can come up with is popping up. And I have some kind of orange gecko looking thing on the speedometer side ...it goes into "limp home mode"...I hate this motorcycle now . And it has seriously screwed with my life. ! So now I'm stuck with an undependable-1980s Hyundai of a motorcycle...how can I make this thing work for me? So far I think getting one of these was an EPIC MISTAKE ..and seriously , I am even considering taking the hit and voluntary repo ing it...I am disgusted and hate these motorcycles now.

It was an epic mistake to buy a Spyder that is about 6 years with only 5000 miles on it. It sounds like it was only serviced one or two times and didn't have all the factory updates taken care of. To do all the updates is now your to do to make you Spyder safe. Ask your dealer for the list of the updates to be completed. There were a lot of problems the 2008 Spyders. There were many fires due to the gas cap and the gas tank venting system. Just do a search using the word fire. Good Luck. That's IMHO.

Mike

[Bob Denman]

I think that Steve is right:
Don't feed the Troll, and let this thread die. :sour:

[bmccaffrey]

Instead of putting all that negative energy into complaining and bragging about being a pilot and tech. Put some positive energy into resolving your spyder problems. The members here have offered some good advice follow some of it. Or take Drew up on his offer!!!!!! :thumbup:

[robmorg]

Don't feed the Troll, and let this thread die. :sour:
....or, we could just turn it into another 2015 rumors thread. Can't wait to get my hands on one of those new hybrid Spyders next year. ;)

[Rockwall]

Any motorized vehicle/boat/ATV etc can have problems. Any of them can be fixed, but at what cost? I would find a good dealer and let them determine what needs to be done before giving up and taking such a financial hit.

Good luck!

[Bob Denman]

....or, we could just turn it into another 2015 rumors thread. Can't wait to get my hands on one of those new hybrid Spyders next year. ;)

Do you think that it'll have the 600 ACE engine under the bodywork?? :D :clap: :2thumbs:
I hope that it doesn't lose too much storage capacity to the batteries... :shocked:

[JerryB]

Hi Mike

Re: It was an epic mistake to buy a Spyder that is about 6 years with only 5000 miles on it.

I diagree. In March of this year I bought an '08 with only 4,000 miles on it. I visited the owner ( 2nd owner ) in Southern California, rode it, gave it a good looksee; then I contacted BRP about the updates. They said everything had been completed.

I have now put nearly a 1,000 miles on it without any problems.

Just my $0.02,

Jerry Baumchen

[Gordy]

I had the same thing happen to me after being at dealer dps other things running across dash including limp mode battery was low from all the testing at dealer,charged battery and never looked back.

[SpyderBandit]

Look, Electro Cat, you come here looking for answers and you have been rather rude in your approach. You are expecting everyone here to give you answers but you don't seem to be looking for any on your own. You bought a 6 year old machine with 5,000 miles on it which means it probably wasn't maintained and hasn't had all of the updates.

You have been given instructions on how to download the Owner's Manual, an app for looking up error codes and places to purchase and download a Service Manual. Now go read all of that and if you still have questions then come back here and ask them without getting rude in your replies. If you can't do that then you need to go to time out.

My thoughts exactly!!!! I'm fairly new to the spyder world myself,but having driven 2 wheeled bikes for 35 yrs, I realize these are just machines after all.
Sorry for your dilemma, but I would never in my wildest dreams come on this site, especially a newbee and bad mouth and rant about any issue involving your "USED" bike of which we know no history!!!!:yikes: I'm not a phd but I do know thats just plain wrong.

[900Dave]

Look, Electro Cat, you come here looking for answers and you have been rather rude in your approach. You are expecting everyone here to give you answers but you don't seem to be looking for any on your own. You bought a 6 year old machine with 5,000 miles on it which means it probably wasn't maintained and hasn't had all of the updates.

You have been given instructions on how to download the Owner's Manual, an app for looking up error codes and places to purchase and download a Service Manual. Now go read all of that and if you still have questions then come back here and ask them without getting rude in your replies. If you can't do that then you need to go to time out.


Well said! No need to add to that.:thumbup:

[bmccaffrey]

:clap:I know we got to let this thread die but I think I figured it out.
I think she got her insurance at Gieco so the little Geiko is coming across her sreen thanking her:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::yes::cheers: