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Tango
05-25-2014, 08:38 PM
Just hit 1000 miles on WALL E. :thumbup: I had been running reg gas and been getting 37 mpg. Last two tanks have been with prem. 93. My mpg has jumped to 39. :hun: Is it possible that the prem gave me better mpg's? Another question? I just filled up again, 93 was not available. I saw a pump that was non-ethanol 91, at $4.50/gal.. :yikes: I said WTH, filled up with it. Is it worth it to use the non-ethanol for .$30 more per gal.? :dontknow: Tom :trike:

Silvervette05
05-25-2014, 09:00 PM
What I understand is if you can get 91 pure gas it will do better in mpg then that og ethanol added to gas
I hope this helps :thumbup:

Silvervette05
05-25-2014, 09:20 PM
What I understand is if you can get 91 pure gas it will do better in mpg then that og ethanol added to gas
I hope this helps :thumbup:

jScotD
05-25-2014, 09:25 PM
in my truck I see mileage drop when using blending... ET can also rot rubber... be sure YoUR machine is user friendly

Tango
05-25-2014, 10:28 PM
I should have said it is a 2014RT. :thumbup: Tom :trike:

StanProff
05-25-2014, 10:48 PM
Non Ethanol gas is not common where I live. It can be found but there is no way I could use it all the time even if i wanted to. As they say, it is what it is. I do know that E85 is about 30% less efficient than 100% gas. I tried it in my car that was a flex fuel vehicle and my mileage dropped from 29 to 23. this was on a tank full when taking a trip. As soon as I filled up with 10% the mileage increased right back to 29 almost like you flipped a switch.

Chupaca
05-25-2014, 11:14 PM
come on..it's a $1.80 per tankful and better for Wall-E. Always good to use the best. Non ethanol high octane or the closest thing to it. It's not only the mileage but how it helps the engineperform and last...jmo..:thumbup::ohyea:

Dubld
05-26-2014, 12:29 PM
On my last 3 tanks, I got 31, 31, and 32 mpg on my 2013 RT-S, using 87 octane non ethanol. This is the best mpg I have ever gotten. I have used 91 and never got better than 28. I do not notice any drop off in performance. I have 6,800 miles of happy riding.

sddinnh
05-26-2014, 01:10 PM
For me it's an academic problem Tom since I can't get non-ethonol of any kind around here :gaah: So I just run what I can find that's above 91 octane :dontknow: Usually Shell 93 octane because the Shell station is just down the street

Bob Denman
05-26-2014, 06:52 PM
Tom,
You'll notice a change for the better with the 91 octane, and no corn squeezin's... :2thumbs:

Tango
05-26-2014, 09:45 PM
For me it's an academic problem Tom since I can't get non-ethonol of any kind around here :gaah: So I just run what I can find that's above 91 octane :dontknow: Usually Shell 93 octane because the Shell station is just down the street


We were on a ride on the way home Sunday night. Spotted a Mobil Station run by a local supermarket. Electronic sign said we have non-ethanol gas. We were about 16 miles from home, so I pulled in. Only pump with the non-ethanol was the 91 octane. So I filled up, 3 gallons worth. My last 2 fill ups were with BP prem.. At my usual station. :thumbup: Tom :trike:

Bob Denman
05-27-2014, 06:46 AM
Was this station anywhere near a boating or snowmobiling hotspot? :dontknow:
I sort of noticed that up here in the NorthEast; non-ethanol fuel seems to only be available in these types of locations... :D

Tango
05-27-2014, 08:02 AM
Was this station anywhere near a boating or snowmobiling hotspot? :dontknow:
I sort of noticed that up here in the NorthEast; non-ehtanol fuel seems to only be available in these types of locations... :D


Bob, yes to both. :f_spider: Tom :trike:

ulflyer
05-27-2014, 08:02 AM
On my last 3 tanks, I got 31, 31, and 32 mpg on my 2013 RT-S, using 87 octane non ethanol. This is the best mpg I have ever gotten. I have used 91 and never got better than 28. I do not notice any drop off in performance. I have 6,800 miles of happy riding.

I'm with you on this; ran 87 for nearly 32K miles on my '11 after trying a few tanks of 91 and could tell no difference. I guess if one can feel a performance increase with 91 and its worth it to that person, then that's the way to go. For me, I've never been convinced that premium is necessary. I've done the same with the 1330Ace and am sticking with 87. $2 a tank more doesn't work for me.:)

Bob Denman
05-27-2014, 08:04 AM
Bob, yes to both. :f_spider: Tom :trike:

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_3_102.gif Note to Self: follow the boaters and sledders to the really COOL filling stations! :thumbup:

KX5062
05-27-2014, 08:45 AM
On my old 08 I charted the MPG just to see if premium was worth it or not, since that engine did not recommend premium. When using the higher octane gasoline, my gas mileage went down noticeably.

Of course, this is in Commiefornia where the gasoline is more expensive and the blends are more suspect. :(

MarkLawson
05-27-2014, 08:49 AM
According to an article I read sometime back by Consumers Reports, by volume, ethanol contains 20% less energy than gasoline.

Dubld
05-28-2014, 03:09 PM
Rode over 600 miles with my wife on the back over Memorial weekend and averaged over 34 mpg. My best ever! All with 87 non-ethanol. 2013 RT-S

sddinnh
05-28-2014, 03:24 PM
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_3_102.gif Note to Self: follow the boaters and sledders to the really COOL filling stations! :thumbup:

You're gonna get wet following boaters :gaah:

Bob Denman
05-28-2014, 04:53 PM
Not if the boats are still on trailers! :D :roflblack: :thumbup:

Woodsrider
05-29-2014, 01:04 AM
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_3_102.gif Note to Self: follow the boaters and sledders to the really COOL filling stations! :thumbup:

Just come visit me. 4 no-eth stations since we're on a big lake. Only downside is that it gets scarce out of season and only one carries premium.

Bob Denman
05-29-2014, 06:52 AM
What do you run in your Sea Doos?

Jim&Teresa
05-29-2014, 08:48 AM
I always use premium (91 octane). We went for a ryde to Memorial Park in Arcadia, WI this past Sunday with another Spyderlover (PW2013STL (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/member.php?12009-PW2013STL)) . We rode two up on our 2014 RT Limited and so did PW2013STL (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/member.php?12009-PW2013STL) . We got 40.4 MPG on that trip and PW2013STL (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/member.php?12009-PW2013STL) did a little better with 40.7 MPG! Our bike has about 1800 miles on it and have seen improvements in mileage from when it was new.....love the MPG, but really love the new 2014 RT overall -- it's an AWESOME machine!

Premium works best and it's worth the cents it costs extra on a great machine like this!


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