2014 RT issue

[Cruzr Joe]

I love my new 2014 RT-S, i have 6200 + Mile on it and the only complaint i have is the rear tire is already worn out, this is not as sturdy a tire as previous years. If that is the only problem i have with this ride i will continue to be happy.

Cruzr Joe

[Bob Denman]

I wonder if it's the combination of weight, and engine torque? :dontknow:
What are you slapping on next?

[Cruzr Joe]

I wonder if it's the combination of weight, and engine torque? :dontknow:
What are you slapping on next?



:hun:Was that a Fat Joke? :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

( don't know Spyderpops ordered one for me )

Cruzr Joe

[Spacetrucker]

What air psi did you run in back and front?

[garb55]

I have 4300 on my 2014 RTL and the tire already shows a lot of wear
I believe the OEM tires are not made as well as the ones in earlier years
Don

[bruiser]

Joe, you have to stop this. :roflblack:


http://youtu.be/RuCn55FjOSY

[mrb]

I believe the OEM tires are not made as well as the ones in earlier years
Don

I see there have been several reports of 2014 RT's pulling to one side and that has , at this stage, been blamed on the tyres. So that may also support the thought that they are no made so well??

[Cruzr Joe]

What air psi did you run in back and front?


No problem on front tires.

17 front 28 Rear

[Cruzr Joe]

I see there have been several reports of 2014 RT's pulling to one side and that has , at this stage, been blamed on the tyres. So that may also support the thought that they are no made so well??


had the bike Laser Aligned by Spyderpops, (tracks straight and true).

Rear tires are too soft.

Cruzr Joe

[BikerDoc]

No problem on front tires.

17 front 28 Rear BRP s current memo recommends 20 in the front tires now and the 2013 and 2014. I run 28 in the rear and I will replace it shortly with over 11500 miles

[Chupaca]

the tires are not well suited to the new engine with added horse power and low end torque. Getting used to ryding this new machine is also contributing to the early demise of the rear tire. It is really easy to spinthe tire but seems several have gotten low mileage...:gaah:

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I've said this about a skakillion times " KENDA'S " are not on anyone's list of preferred tires, but apparently nobodies listening.....:hun:....:agree:...:roflblack::roflb lack::roflblack:Mike :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

:hun:Was that a Fat Joke? :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

:shocked: Never... :shocked:

You're like me: already padded for the inevitable collision! :D

[SpyRyd]

I love my new 2014 RT-S, i have 6200 + Mile on it and the only complaint i have is the rear tire is already worn out, this is not as sturdy a tire as previous years. If that is the only problem i have with this ride i will continue to be happy.

Cruzr Joe

I agree. I'm right there too, Joe. 6146 miles on my 14 RT-L and my rear tire is about worn down to the wear bars in the center.

I'd be interested in what brand of tire SPYDERPOPS is installing on your ryde for you.

[PrairieSpyder]

I think the dealer in KC told me to run 18 in the front and 30 in the rear.

[SpyRyd]

BRP s current memo recommends 20 in the front tires now and the 2013 and 2014. I run 28 in the rear and I will replace it shortly with over 11500 miles

I'm running 28 PSI in the rear tire as well. I'll be lucky if I get 8000 miles out of my rear tire. I'm at 6146 miles with probably 85% of those being at highways speeds (60-70 MPH).

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Better proven alternative?

Finding a quality tire in the size needed for the front is not producing many results.

PK

:hun:,...The list of QUALITY tires that will fit on the front of 08 thru 2013 Spyders has been posted so many times it's hard to keep count. The front tires DO NOT have to be exactly 165/65...........they only have to be 14 inch.....................just the other day Mr.Orange posted a pic of what I consider the BEST alternative front tire currently out there. The Yokohama " S " drive 185/55 - 14, it's " V" speed rated and has excellent wet - dry handling & it's also a great mileage tire. It also has the largest footprint of any tire that will fit on the front.......this = fantastic front end holding force ( ie G-force ).......ANNNNNNNND it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less expense than the OEM Kenda's ,,,,,,,which I wouldn't put on my lawn tractor.................Your welcome , Mike :thumbup:

[ruthie]

Cruzr Joe, I agree about this being the only problem I have on my 2014, being no big deal. Now I got to get a tire on the rear before our trip to Durango. Does Spyderpop, Lamont and Fred Rau have any thoughts on rear tire, would like to hear from them on this subject.

[finless]

A few people on Facebook at about the same mileage are also complaining of worn out rear tires on 2014 RT's!

Here is a picture on one guys rear tire with only 7K on it.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=88003&d=1399818505

88003

[Cavman]

Go with a Kumho rear tire.

[Brogers57]

Joe, you have to stop this. :roflblack:


http://youtu.be/RuCn55FjOSY


I was hoping he was going to blow it up. Horrible care for the :f_spider:

[SpyRyd]

A few people on Facebook at about the same mileage are also complaining of worn out rear tires on 2014 RT's!

Here is a picture on one guys rear tire with only 7K on it.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=88003&d=1399818505

88003
Man I thought mine looked bad at 6146 miles. Maybe I have a few more thousand in it.

[SpyderAnn01]

8,500 I think on mine and it is shot :yikes:

[jthornton]

I love my new 2014 RT-S, i have 6200 + Mile on it and the only complaint i have is the rear tire is already worn out, this is not as sturdy a tire as previous years. If that is the only problem i have with this ride i will continue to be happy.

Cruzr Joe

Too many burn outs at the track...

JT

[JkRbbt]

Must be a problem if we got Cruzr Joe to complain!! :)

[poppajim]

Looking at the tires in post number 20 it looks like over inflation, worn in the middle. But if thats where they want you to run for handling properly it is what it is.

[Cruzr Joe]

Too many burn outs at the track...

JT



No track racing on my ryde. :lecturef_smilie::lecturef_smilie:

Cruzr Joe

[Cruzr Joe]

Must be a problem if we got Cruzr Joe to complain!! :)


:yikes:, Yeah, I don't usually complain unless i am having a problem. I am not happy with the rear tire, so i will replace it with one that i will be happy with. :thumbup:

Cruzr Joe

[SpyRyd]

:yikes:, Yeah, I don't usually complain unless i am having a problem. I am not happy with the rear tire, so i will replace it with one that i will be happy with. :thumbup:

Cruzr Joe

Ok Joe, why are you being so secretive about the brand of tire SPYDERPOPS is putting on your Spyder? Has Harvey "invented" his own brand of tires and you are beta testing it for him? ;)

[tigerdr]

Only 6 000 miles on the rear tire and already worn, it's normal with the Kenda scrap. Go with Khumo or Falken car tire.

[SpyderAnn01]

Does anybody smell burning rubber on their 14?

[SpyRyd]

Does anybody smell burning rubber on their 14?

I do on occasion. Sometimes I even smell it when sitting at a stop light. I noticed the same smell when I had my 2012 RT. Owned it for 22 months and the burning rubber smell was present on occasion up until I traded it. Don't think it can be attributable to the bike being new.

[namknight]

I just got my 2014 3 weeks ago. It is great. thanks for the heads up. Will watch.

[Bob Denman]

:hun:,...The list of QUALITY tires that will fit on the front of 08 thru 2013 Spyders has been posted so many times it's hard to keep count. The front tires DO NOT have to be exactly 165/65...........they only have to be 14 inch.....................just the other day Mr.Orange posted a pic of what I consider the BEST alternative front tire currently out there. The Yokohama " S " drive 185/55 - 14, it's " V" speed rated and has excellent wet - dry handling & it's also a great mileage tire. It also has the largest footprint of any tire that will fit on the front.......this = fantastic front end holding force ( ie G-force ).......ANNNNNNNND it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less expense than the OEM Kenda's ,,,,,,,which I wouldn't put on my lawn tractor.................Your welcome , Mike :thumbup:

Mike... We're talking about 15" front tires... There's not a lot out there. :gaah:

Federal has one that'll fit; Maybe it's Guzzi, who's got one... :dontknow:

[Mike H]

I love my new 2014 RT-S, i have 6200 + Mile on it and the only complaint i have is the rear tire is already worn out, this is not as sturdy a tire as previous years. If that is the only problem i have with this ride i will continue to be happy.

Cruzr Joe

Joe...just hang out a little longer, the 2015 model will be out and you'll be back to a new tyre (tire) again

Moike

[Knarfoh]

I love my new 2014 RT-S, i have 6200 + Mile on it and the only complaint i have is the rear tire is already worn out
I am amazed the variation of wear and tear I have seen amongst the various Spyder owners. Several weeks ago, I was at the dealership and ran into a nice couple who both own Spyders. Her Spyder was a duplicate of mine (2012 RT-S) and she was replacing her rear tire.

Both of our Spyders had roughly the same mileage (9,000+) and I couldn't believe the difference in visible wear & tear! She definitely needed a new rear tire; I definitely did not (not even close)!

I will be interested in reading about other Spyder owner's experiences......

[ARtraveler]

Watching with much interest. Have been used to 13K to 15K on those rear tires. As a high mileage driver, I am not going to be a happy camper with having to replace two or three tires a season. :mad:

[bullant12]

Ok Joe, why are you being so secretive about the brand of tire SPYDERPOPS is putting on your Spyder? Has Harvey "invented" his own brand of tires and you are beta testing it for him? ;)

No secret:


225/50R-15 Kumho Ecsta AST



Going 5500 and still strong!

[Cruzr Joe]

Joe...just hang out a little longer, the 2015 model will be out and you'll be back to a new tyre (tire) again

Moike


Hello Moike, how is everything in the OutBack? :roflblack::roflblack:

Cruzr Joe (aka Slappy Joe)

[Cruzr Joe]

No secret:


225/50R-15 Kumho Ecsta AST

Got it put on today, Spyderpops Did a great Job


Cruzr Joe

[Silvervette05]

Has anyone tried maybe lowering the rear tire 2 lbs ?

[SpyRyd]

No secret:


225/50R-15 Kumho Ecsta AST

Got it put on today, Spyderpops Did a great Job


Cruzr Joe






Thanks, that may be my choice as well.

[gonker]

Highway miles seems to trash the center of the rear tire quickly. 8000 miles was about the best I could get on my 2010rt, and I prefer back roads even if the highway gets me there twice as fast. I played with tire pressure and didn't get any better or noticable results. Guess we have to accept it as the cost of riding. I do hate changing the tires out before a big road trip just becuase they won't make it all the way back home. And I think getting caught in hard rain 500 miles from home on worn out tires doesn't up the fun factor at all.

[Guzzi]

Mike... We're talking about 15" front tires... There's not a lot out there. :gaah:

Federal has one that'll fit; Maybe it's Guzzi, who's got one... :dontknow:
Had to get the Federals off the front of my 2014. Way to stiff! Finally stopped in Jacksonville, Fl at jacksonville Powersports. Talked it over with Travis, their service mgr about the problems with out of round Kenda's. He suggested to try a different method. Take a pair of new Kenda's and the wheels to a local tire shop that "roll balances tires". They mount the tires and then balance them while the tires are loaded against a spinning drum. This way they can see how the tires will do once mounted on the bike, without guessing. If one of the new tires are defective, you know it before ever riding on it. This simplifies the dealer claiming a warrenty, as the tire still has its tags on, and never touched the ground. They also check the weels for trueness and out of round. Roll balanced tires are rated and matched by number with a rating of 15-19 being acceptable. 25 or over you will have tire problems. Believe it or not the 2 new roll balanced Kenda 15" fronts came in with a 4 and 5!! As close a good match as is possible. Once mounted on the RTL, my god what a difference! They track and roll smooooth, and handle great. The additional $50 for roll match balancing was worth every penny! Travis was right, it works, and you see what you are getting before putting them on the bike. If the new tire is not good, you can have the dealer replace it with another right then. By the way, if you try the available 175/55R15 car tires out there, get ready to space your fender mounts inward, to clear the extra width, as they will NOT clear the 2013-2014 fenders stock.

[den1953]

I have noticed that chip seal (tar & chip) pavement does wear out motorcycle tires quicker than blacktopped roads. Most of our back roads here in Northwestern Ohio are tar & chip paved and that's where I do a lot of my riding. This could possibly be some of the reason for the wide variations in tire mileage being reported. In any case riding on bald or nearly bald tires is a bad idea, especially on wet pavement.

[MarkLawson]

I put the 215/60R15 Michelin HydroEdge on my rear (2010 RT) & have about 16k on it now. Looks to have enough tread to get me twice that much again (or more) before I'll need to replace it. The HydroEdge is discontinued & replaced by the Michelin Defender, which I have on the fronts. This size also corrected my speedometer to be no more than 1 MPH from my GPS, and half the time they show the same speed.

Take a look at this thread for more information: http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?59965-Tire-Size-amp-Speedometer-Correction-Evidence

[Cruzr Joe]

I put the 215/60R15 Michelin HydroEdge on my rear (2010 RT) & have about 16k on it now. Looks to have enough tread to get me twice that much again (or more) before I'll need to replace it. The HydroEdge is discontinued & replaced by the Michelin Defender, which I have on the fronts. This size also corrected my speedometer to be no more than 1 MPH from my GPS, and half the time they show the same speed.

Take a look at this thread for more information: http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?59965-Tire-Size-amp-Speedometer-Correction-Evidence


Thanks for the info. :thumbup:

Cruzr Joe

[bikeguy]

I have noticed that chip seal (tar & chip) pavement does wear out motorcycle tires quicker than blacktopped roads. Most of our back roads here in Northwestern Ohio are tar & chip paved and that's where I do a lot of my riding. This could possibly be some of the reason for the wide variations in tire mileage being reported. In any case riding on bald or nearly bald tires is a bad idea, especially on wet pavement.

I agree about the tar & chip roads wearing tires much quicker than hot mix asphalt or concrete surfaces. Texas has been using tar & chip on pretty much everything except interstates for some time now. The rear tire on our Spyders rides in the center of the lane where there is very little wear to the tar & chip surface from car tires and it's a very abrasive surface. I'm running a Kumho on the rear of my 2010 RT and the mileage is much improved over the OEM Kenda but still nothing to brag about.

Cotton

[redhorse]

No secret:


225/50R-15 Kumho Ecsta AST

Got it put on today, Spyderpops Did a great Job


Cruzr Joe







Joe, how does the Kumho compare to the kenda? meet you at Pitbull just before spyderfest. just got my 3000 service today, at 3400 miles. how did you get yours done with no oil filters anywhere?
I just got 2 filters and will carry a spare with me from now on. Put amsoil 10-40 oil in the Limited and it sure seems to run smoother, and shifts nicer. thanks for the info.