What gas do you use?

[Magdave]

I have noticed improved MPG since I quit using 93 and started using 89 (91 if it is available). I have gone from 25 to 30mpg. I know there are other variables like temps and riding style ,but I am wondering what everyone runs and what MPGs you get ? You can pick more than 1 if you want.

[Spacetrucker]

We us mid to reg 83 to 91 the higher is not that great in some place, water mud and all that ****. In their tanks just go to mid and they run great...

[Dragonfly]

I'm hoping it is 93 octane but who knows how much is 87 when I only pump half a tank

[Benggolf]

Been pumping Chevron premium 91 on all my cars and bikes ever since; no complaints and
gas mileage and power is noticeably better with premium gas.

[Chupaca]

in many cases it's not the price but the availability. Always look for the best, for the difference in price and the amount used it's worth it...:ohyea:

[den1953]

Try to avoid ethanol as much as possible, definitely anything labeled E-15 or E-85. I think some stations have up to 10% without any labeling, but that's usually the regular 87 octane gas. I generally use 89 when it's cooler weather and premium 91 to 93 when its warmer or hot weather. I just avoid using 87 because of the possibility of there being ethanol in it.

[Dragonrider]

puregas.com

I went out of my way to use non-ETOH gas. When I had no choice, I always used a shot of Star-Tron. Even though my Spyders were "rated" for ETOH gas, performance and longevity are worth the effort of using decent fuel.

BTW, I have always loved to ride in Western Canada - almost anywhere is truly terrific - and they have 102 octane non-ETOH up there... ;)

[SNOOPY]

What does the manual call for?

I thought it was 91 minimum?

We don't have 91 here we just have 87, 89 and 93.

I wouldn't use less than what they call for.

[Bob Denman]

I did some comparative runs with my old bike: 87, versus 93 octance... The results at that time, convinced me that the bike ran cooler, smoother, and got a bit better fuel mileage with the higher-grade fuel.
I will probably continue to run 93...
For a four gallon fill-up; the difference is only about a buck. I waste more money that that each day anyway... :opps:
If I'm in an area that's unfamiliar; I'd rather buy the higher-grade fuel, and HOPE that it is, what it says it is...
With 87 in the tank; who knows how much "wiggle room" exists? :dontknow: :shocked:

[Jeriatric]

91 unless traveling through a state where higher octane is available, and always a name brand, unless fuel level dictates loading whatever is available. That doesn't happen often, but will if you travel much. While I pay attention to my MPG. I don't obsess over it. There are far to many variables that can/will affect MPG. So, I fill and go. Until it's time to fill again.

[SNOOPY]

One important thing about buying fuel that is what it says it is one, buying a name brand and two, buying at a station that looks like it is frequented regularly.

If a station is well used, then the tanks are filled on a regular basis hence the fresher the fuel should be and most likely the octane is what it says.

Also the newer the station, the less likely it is to have water or contaminants in the tank from cracks etc.

[3 Wheel Addict]

I have never had anything less than 91 in mine, but I have only got 1600 miles on it. I think mine is listed as 91 minimum. I have a performance boat that calls for 91 as a minimum but the factory told me that if I back off the total timing 4 degrees I could run 87 octane, and I did and have for the last 10 years, it's fuel injected as well but I don't think we can do this on a Spyder but they get way better mileage than that boat!

[Bob Denman]

One important thing about buying fuel that is what it says it is one, buying a name brand and two, buying at a station that looks like it is frequented regularly.

If a station is well used, then the tanks are filled on a regular basis hence the fresher the fuel should be and most likely the octane is what it says.

Also the newer the station, the less likely it is to have water or contaminants in the tank from cracks etc.
:thumbup: Yup! :agree:

That's why I'll use the higher grade, and HOPE for the best... :shocked:
Time,and crud;will deteriorate what's in the tank... :yikes:

[bruiser]

Most mom and pop stations and off brands buy what is call low book gas. That is usually what's left in the suppliers tanks at the end of the run and after the main users have their supplies. they may also use a contract hauler since they don't want to pay for the name brand hauler. There is a depot not far from us. The name brands are listed at each filling point. Contract tankers fill up at these points as well as the name brand tankers. Contract tankers supply convenience stores that don't have their own haulers. One such contract service here also hauls jet fuel for the military bases. Those same trucks may haul JP8 in the morning and gasoline in the afternoon.

[Magdave]

What does the manual call for?

I thought it was 91 minimum?

We don't have 91 here we just have 87, 89 and 93.

I wouldn't use less than what they call for.
It Recommends 91 with a minimum of 87. Try to use Top Tier gas. I used to like Texaco until it moved out of SC it had Techron in it probably the best fuel system cleaner on the market. If you look at the bottles you can see many major Auto companies rebrand it and call it their own. It is a good thing to add a few ounces every now and then. :thumbup:



http://www.toptiergas.com/

[SNOOPY]

It Recommends 91 with a minimum of 87. Try to use Top Tier gas. I used to like Texaco until it moved out of SC it had Techron in it probably the best fuel system cleaner on the market. If you look at the bottles you can see many major Auto companies rebrand it and call it their own. It is a good thing to add a few ounces every now and then. :thumbup:



http://www.toptiergas.com/


Interesting to me that the computer can compensate for that range...but I guess in such a small low powered engine it isn't as big as a deal as engines I'm use to...over 500 HP and Supercharged or turbocharged. I know w power adders you definitely want the right octane rating.

I see in your Top Tier listing that the stations we use are all listed. We have always used Exxon, and She'll because that is who we have cards with. We have a couple Citgo stations near our home that would be real convenient, but I know nothing about them or their products?

[spyderbirds]

I use the highest octane pure gas
i can find, I will take 87 pure above 91 ethanol.
Here is KS we don't have any 93 to choose from...

[CanAmKidd]

I'm only on my second tank but... I have noticed a big difference in my 2013 RSS with a Two Brothers muff using ethanol free 93 vers 93 with ethanol. Soon as I filled the tank after the dealer complimentary 2 gal of crap and ran the ethanol gas out deceleration popping stopped. For you who don't know ethanol(alcohol) is heavier/thicker then gasoline and causes a lean out condition. In this cooler weather you shouldn't have any problem dropping back to a lower grade gasoline. Summer however with these high compression engines you'll probably have detonation(ping).

[Magdave]

Interesting so far. I would like to hear more from the 87 users. MPG and issues?

[R FUN]

I use 89 octane as it is the only fuel available around here. I have a 2012 RTL with over 12,000 and average 37 to 40 MPG on US gallon. I have tried higher octane when in the US with poorer results.

[Magdave]

I use 89 octane as it is the only fuel available around here. I have a 2012 RTL with over 12,000 and average 37 to 40 MPG on US gallon. I have tried higher octane when in the US with poorer results.
That's what I want to hear confirmation of my observation. :thumbup: My thinking on this comes from some recent posts about higher the octane lower the boiling point. Have not smelled gas fumes since changing....yet so am wondering if this helps on that point.

[Pirate looks at --]

Had our bike in for the 6000 service a while back, and the service manager told me that we should run regular gas instead of the premium. He said that with a low compression engine like the 998 that it would run better. We have tried that and have not noticed much of a difference. I might add this is a highly respected dealer in our area, and people drive hundreds of miles to have their machines serviced there.

[ARtraveler]

This is another one of those--there is no right answer threads. Here, the highest octane available in most cases in 91. We also have 87 and 89. No ethanol is added to our gas that I know of--however, they do make "winter blends."

I always put in the 91. I have tried 87 a few times--but it seems to me, that my :spyder2:'s like the higher octane blend better. They seem to be more responsive. I have not noticed any appreciable difference in mileage.

[Deanna777]

I use mid grade gas. Sent PM
Deanna777

[BB1 Roadsta]

Why???

[SNOOPY]

Why???


He works for the government and we're gonna have to start registering the fuel octane we use. Then they are going to limit how much we can buy at a time. Then they'll start in places like NYC making it illegal to buy period....then all the hybrid people will push to try to have our constitutional right to buy gas banned from the US.

What is the world coming too?? :gaah:


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[SNOOPY]

Okay, backing away from the keyboard... :roflblack:

[Kraut]

WHAT'S ETHANOL FREE? :hun::dontknow::roflblack:

[Pirate looks at --]

No added ethanol. I believe that winter blends contain ethanol, at least in California.

[Dan_Ashley]

Does anyone have any kind of idea where I could find 93 and/or ethanol free in California?
Anywhere at all?

I've not been able to find it. ...and I was told that it is too dangerous to make it in my garage...
Anyone know where I can get either 93 or ethanol free in the People's Republic of California?

[Pirate looks at --]

Not in Cali unless they are breaking the law.

[SNOOPY]

I'd move.

[CanAmKidd]

You need to read the details to be sure the station is current.
http://pure-gas.org/

[Dragonrider]

Sorry, it's pure-gas.org now.....

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BradleyUNBRANDEDLake San Antonio Marina [805-472-2313]74255 San Antonio RdN35.81536 W120.97960http://pure-gas.org/design/ge.png (http://pure-gas.org/extensions/kml.jsp?station_id=13604)http://pure-gas.org/design/gm.png (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=74255+San+Antonio+Rd,+Bradley,+CA)details (http://pure-gas.org/station?station_id=13604)CorningUNBRANDED93Norther n Lights Energy [530-824-3204]1819 Solano StN39.92771 W122.19008http://pure-gas.org/design/ge.png (http://pure-gas.org/extensions/kml.jsp?station_id=6309)http://pure-gas.org/design/gm.png (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=1819+Solano+St,+Corning,+CA)details (http://pure-gas.org/station?station_id=6309)
EurekaUNBRANDED91 92Renner Petroleum [707-443-1645]1100 W 14th StN40.79426 W124.18354http://pure-gas.org/design/ge.png (http://pure-gas.org/extensions/kml.jsp?station_id=4698)http://pure-gas.org/design/gm.png (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=1100+W+14th+St,+Eureka,+CA)details (http://pure-gas.org/station?station_id=4698)
FortunaUNBRANDED91Renner Petroleum [707-725-2364]2435 Newburg RdN40.59170 W124.14071http://pure-gas.org/design/ge.png (http://pure-gas.org/extensions/kml.jsp?station_id=4699)http://pure-gas.org/design/gm.png (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=2435+Newburg+Rd,+Fortuna,+CA)details (http://pure-gas.org/station?station_id=4699)
GarbervilleUNBRANDED91Renner Petroleum [707-923-3380]76 Bear Canyon RdN40.10976 W123.79529http://pure-gas.org/design/ge.png (http://pure-gas.org/extensions/kml.jsp?station_id=4700)http://pure-gas.org/design/gm.png (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=76+Bear+Canyon+Rd,+Garberville,+CA)details (http://pure-gas.org/station?station_id=4700)
LeggettUNBRANDED91Leggett Patriots [707-925-6099]67670 Hwy 271N39.86477 W123.71492http://pure-gas.org/design/ge.png (http://pure-gas.org/extensions/kml.jsp?station_id=13716)http://pure-gas.org/design/gm.png (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=67670+Hwy+271,+Leggett,+CA)details (http://pure-gas.org/station?station_id=13716)
ReddingUNBRANDED93Northern Lights Energy [530-241-2196]2340 Wyndham LnN40.56153 W122.38740http://pure-gas.org/design/ge.png (http://pure-gas.org/extensions/kml.jsp?station_id=9081)http://pure-gas.org/design/gm.png (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=2340+Wyndham+Ln,+Redding,+CA)details (http://pure-gas.org/station?station_id=9081)
San DiegoVP RACING100Crown Point Auto Center [858-866-0230]3804 Ingraham StN32.78875 W117.23749http://pure-gas.org/design/ge.png (http://pure-gas.org/extensions/kml.jsp?station_id=13532)http://pure-gas.org/design/gm.png (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=3804+Ingraham+St,+San+Diego,+CA)details (http://pure-gas.org/station?station_id=13532)

[SNOOPY]

You need to read the details to be sure the station is current.
http://pure-gas.org/


No where near me.

What do you all think the ethanol is doing to you?

If you're constantly running fresh gas through your bike what is it effecting?

Ive heard about it deteriorating fuel lines and such, but that's over about 8-10 years.

What else?

[Wiredux]

The Octane number a figure indicating the antiknock properties of a fuel, based on a comparison with a mixture of isooctane and heptane. I use recommended when i can.

[CanAmKidd]

Ethanol can cause a lean condition. Not much but enough to cause popping on deceleration.

[BajaRon]

I'd move.

I did... :ohyea:

[BajaRon]

A few years ago I did a trip from east Tennessee to San Diego and back. Consecutively ran several tanks of each octane starting with regular. All tanks were ethanol (up to 10%). Regular and mid grade mileage ran very close to the same with a slight edge to Mid-Grade fuel. Premium consistently got me about 2-3 mpg better. I did not count mileage with significant city or non-freeway driving.

I repeated this same process going back to east Tennessee. Started with regular for about 1/3 of the trip and ended up running premium the last 1/3 with the same results. It's about 2,200 miles one way so we are talking 5-6 fill-ups for each fuel grade each way.

We know that the Spyder has the ability to run on regular fuel as the computer will retard ignition timing to prevent knock. Though this will work, it is not ideal as retarded ignition reduces power and mileage. If you run regular fuel in conditions where the computer does not need to retard ignition timing to prevent knock then you probably will not see an improvement in fuel mileage or power running premium fuel.

[Magdave]

A few years ago I did a trip from east Tennessee to San Diego and back. Consecutively ran several tanks of each octane starting with regular. All tanks were ethanol (up to 10%). Regular and mid grade mileage ran very close to the same with a slight edge to Mid-Grade fuel. Premium consistently got me about 2-3 mpg better. I did not count mileage with significant city or non-freeway driving.

I repeated this same process going back to east Tennessee. Started with regular for about 1/3 of the trip and ended up running premium the last 1/3 with the same results. It's about 2,200 miles one way so we are talking 5-6 fill-ups for each fuel grade each way.

We know that the Spyder has the ability to run on regular fuel as the computer will retard ignition timing to prevent knock. Though this will work, it is not ideal as retarded ignition reduces power and mileage. If you run regular fuel in conditions where the computer does not need to retard ignition timing to prevent knock then you probably will not see an improvement in fuel mileage or power running premium fuel.

So is there a knock sensor in the Spyder? I assume their is but am I right?:dontknow:

[BajaRon]

So is there a knock sensor in the Spyder? I assume their is but am I right?:dontknow:

Yes. You're right.

I'd say that every modern vehicle with a computer has anti-knock programming. Pre-ignition (which causes knock) also greatly increases harmful emissions so it's pretty much a standard component these days.

[SNOOPY]

Yes. You're right.

I'd say that every modern vehicle with a computer has anti-knock programming. Pre-ignition (which causes knock) also greatly increases harmful emissions so it's pretty much a standard component these days.


I thought we all agreed not to tell Dave he was right about something? :dontknow:



:roflblack:

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[jcthorne]

It Recommends 91 with a minimum of 87. Try to use Top Tier gas. I used to like Texaco until it moved out of SC it had Techron in it probably the best fuel system cleaner on the market. If you look at the bottles you can see many major Auto companies rebrand it and call it their own. It is a good thing to add a few ounces every now and then. :thumbup:



http://www.toptiergas.com/

Your manual is out of date. Look at the certification sticker under the seat. It is 91 MINIMUM on the 2013s.

[Magdave]

Your manual is out of date. Look at the certification sticker under the seat. It is 91 MINIMUM on the 2013s.

It is a BRP service manual for a 2013 how can it be out of date?:dontknow:

pg 59 of the owners manual says the same thing as I quoted. 87 min recommended 91.

[Raptor]

Chevron Premium here. I know it's expensive but the engines just run better on it. Gas is getting so bad out here I am afraid to put anything else in it. That ethanol crap is an engine killer...

[bscrive]

For the Spyder, running ethanol fuel in it will not do any harm. The harm with ethanol is with the older bikes that used rubber seals. Ethanol will harden the rubber and eventually leak. Newer engines like the Spyder use neoprene gaskets that are not affected by the alcohol in the ethanol. Any newer 4 stroke engine runs fine on it. 2 stroke engines are another thing. Ethanol runs hotter and it will kill a small engine.

[Dat Guy]

It is a BRP service manual for a 2013 how can it be out of date?:dontknow:

pg 59 of the owners manual says the same thing as I quoted. 87 min recommended 91.

Always go with the safety and instruction stickers that are actually on the vehicle. Those are regulated, inspected and required by state and in some cases federal government and must be accurate, whereas manuals are not under the same scrutiny and can sometimes have typos and errors as a result.

[bluestratos]

I use the premium grade which is usally 91 around here. What I wonder is how much regular fuel is still in the hose after the last person filled up? 1 quart? More?

[Rid'nrandy]

91 Octane normally. When out West we use lower when at mountain elevations.

[Raptor]

For the Spyder, running ethanol fuel in it will not do any harm. The harm with ethanol is with the older bikes that used rubber seals. Ethanol will harden the rubber and eventually leak. Newer engines like the Spyder use neoprene gaskets that are not affected by the alcohol in the ethanol. Any newer 4 stroke engine runs fine on it. 2 stroke engines are another thing. Ethanol runs hotter and it will kill a small engine.

I Know the seals and gaskets are probably OK. What worries me is the higher heat produced, pre-ignition, gummed up fuel systems, higher Nitrogen levels that will be produced, thus greater smog levels, the water accumulation that ethanol puts in the fuel system, and the highly corrosive nature of the stuff. It's garbage, and if they force us to try and use more than a 10 per cent blend, which is bad enough, things will get significantly worse.

So I stick with Chevron Premium and I treat with Star Tron and have had good results. I'm not saying this is what everyone should do, this is just what I do and I am having good luck with it.

[SNOOPY]

91 Octane normally. When out West we use lower when at mountain elevations.

Never heard that before, is that standard practice?

[BajaRon]

I thought we all agreed not to tell Dave he was right about something? :dontknow:



:roflblack:

.

Sorry, I didn't get that memo.... :dontknow:

Maybe he was just quoting someone else who was right...

[SNOOPY]

Good point :joke:

[Magdave]

:banghead:

[Bob Denman]

Pay no attention to the dog; he's owned by a couple of folks who still think it's 1967; and they're celebrating the "Summer Of Love", endlessly...
83120

[SNOOPY]

:banghead:



:roflblack:


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[BajaRon]

Is it possible to hijack a thread that has already been hijacked?

And if so, would that be called 'Re-Jacked'?

And if it happened to your thread, would you then consider yourself to have been Rejackted?

[SNOOPY]

Yes?



lol

[dndfindley]

I have a 2012 RT and my manual recommends 89 octane. I always use premium which varies from station to station with a low of 91 to a high of 93. I have never had a problem.

[Mets79ST2013]

I have almost 8K miles on my bike and only use 91 or better I never feel comfortable using 87, now in my truck 87 is the rule..

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I know full well that I'm going to get FLAMED for this statement but here goes .........If you are using 93 Octane in your Spyder you should Google "Octane" and find out what it is and what it does....... After you have gained this knowledge and still want to spend .30 + extra per gallon of gas , at least you will be an informed ????? ( fill in the blank )....................Your all very welcome, Mike :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Face it, Mike; You're tighter, than bark to a tree! :D :roflblack: :2thumbs:
and it works for you! :thumbup:

[Jeriatric]

http://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/riding/motorcycle_00055/Octane_101_-_Motorcycle_Gas.htm

[Nils888]

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popc orn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:: popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popco rn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[Bob Denman]

http://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/riding/motorcycle_00055/Octane_101_-_Motorcycle_Gas.htm

Thanks! :thumbup:

Based upon their explanation; is that why they suggest lower octane fuel at elevation, or at lower ambient temperatures? ;)

[Jeriatric]

The last two sentences of the article pretty much says it all. Other than where it mentioned pre ignition due to carbonation.

Keeping things as carbon free as possible is key. How each Indavidual decides to do that has been debated here on many occasions(as you well know). I use chevron high test, and when it is not available, I substitute 2oz of MMO per fill up.

This works for me. Others will have their way of doing things. As always.....it's a personal choice/belief thing.



Thanks! :thumbup:

Based upon their explanation; is that why they suggest lower octane fuel at elevation, or at lower ambient temperatures? ;)

[SNOOPY]

http://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/riding/motorcycle_00055/Octane_101_-_Motorcycle_Gas.htm


I use use premium gas in everything, even our lawn mowers.


If you're worried about an extra $50 in gas a year from using premium in all your vehicles, you should get rid of some and buy a Honduh....like a Civic, not a bike. Lol

[Bob Denman]

:agree: Particularly in an air-cooled engine... The extra "stability" of the higher octane, can mae a difference as things heat up...
Save money by buying cheaper toilet paper, and stale bread! :D

[MidTNDawg]

I use use premium gas in everything, even our lawn mowers.


If you're worried about an extra $50 in gas a year from using premium in all your vehicles, you should get rid of some and buy a Honduh....like a Civic, not a bike. Lol

Almost every Honduh, no matter how many wheels, is engineered to run on 87 octane.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

:shocked: Face it, Mike; You're tighter, than bark to a tree! :D :roflblack: :2thumbs:......
and it works for you! :thumbup:...................Maybe, but not wasting that .30 + has allowed me to spend it on 2 Cobra's, 2 Spyder's, 4 Snowmobiles, and 1 1934 Mercedes Benz 500 K, plus my everyday ordinary truck.............So there is reason to my " TIGHTNESS " :gaah: :clap: :yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:...Mi ke :thumbup::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflbla ck::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::ro flblack:

[SNOOPY]

Almost every Honduh, no matter how many wheels, is engineered to run on 87 octane.



I rest my case :roflblack:

[harrypottar]

...................Maybe, but not wasting that .30 + has allowed me to spend it on 2 Cobra's, 2 Spyder's, 4 Snowmobiles, and 1 1934 Mercedes Benz 500 K, plus my everyday ordinary truck.............So there is reason to my " TIGHTNESS " :gaah: :clap: :yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:...Mi ke :thumbup::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflbla ck::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::ro flblack:

Holy cow, how much gas do you BUY!, to take the 30 cents saving and buy 2 cobra's, 2 Spyder's, 4 Snowmobiles and a 1934 Mercedes?. I bought a Pirus and on what I saved on gas all I got was a new dishwasher for the wife.... :roflblack:

Harry

[SNOOPY]

roflmao

[SNOOPY]

I wanna see pics!


https://www.google.com/search?q=1934+Mercedes+Benz+500+K&client=firefox-a&hs=8ER&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=t9z6UqTIOofyqQHQi4C4BA&ved=0CEIQsAQ&biw=1536&bih=762

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Holy cow, how much gas do you BUY!, to take the 30 cents saving and buy 2 cobra's, 2 Spyder's, 4 Snowmobiles and a 1934 Mercedes?. I bought a Pirus and on what I saved on gas all I got was a new dishwasher for the wife.... :roflblack:

Harry
Harry, I just have to know this .................................................. ........................What exactly is a " PIRUS "......and do I want one of those also:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflb lack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:: roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflbl ack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::r oflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflbla ck::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::ro flblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::2excited :......Mike :thumbup:

[Jeriatric]

Mike, it's a car with......really bad pipes.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I wanna see pics!


https://www.google.com/search?q=1934+Mercedes+Benz+500+K&client=firefox-a&hs=8ER&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=t9z6UqTIOofyqQHQi4C4BA&ved=0CEIQsAQ&biw=1536&bih=762


Thanks Snoop, Mine is all white with a tan top at the moment ,,,,,,however I'm going to have it re-painted like the one that has the Burgundy fenders and metallic Sand body.....Of course it's not a " REAL " one but it's real enough for me :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:............Thank s again

[SNOOPY]

So you have a fake car and a motorcycle that isn't really a motorcycle? Hmmmm.... roflmao

[Bob Denman]

...................Maybe, but not wasting that .30 + has allowed me to spend it on 2 Cobra's, 2 Spyder's, 4 Snowmobiles, and 1 1934 Mercedes Benz 500 K, plus my everyday ordinary truck.............So there is reason to my " TIGHTNESS " :gaah: :clap: :yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:...Mi ke :thumbup::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflbla ck::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::ro flblack:

And I believe that I said that it's working for you... Very well indeed; too!! :clap: :2thumbs: :bowdown:
What kind of sleds do you have??? :shocked:

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

So you have a fake car and a motorcycle that isn't really a motorcycle? Hmmmm.... roflmao

" REAL ", as in original i.e.,OEM and The Spyder is classified as a Mtc. in all 50 jurisdictions in the USA as far as I know .....:yes: :clap: :2excited:.....Mike :thumbup:

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

And I believe that I said that it's working for you... Very well indeed; too!! :clap: :2thumbs: :bowdown:
What kind of sleds do you have??? :shocked:

A Yamaha Warrior, and Phazer.....An Arctic Cat Turbo.....and a Polaris Two-up Touring ,.......Mike :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

What year Phazer? A 485cc two-stroke, or the new 500cc four-stroke?

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

What year Phazer? A 485cc two-stroke, or the new 500cc four-stroke?

The new 500 cc 4-stroke, they are all 4-stroke except the Polaris :roflblack:

[Bob Denman]

:thumbup: I kind of like the new Phazers...
The originals (84 to 91), were my personal nemesis...
I had an Indy Trail Deluxe (488cc, 133.5" track...)
They'd eat my lunch at every drag race... :gaah:
So I got busy...
Aaen pipe, 120 wedges, clutched to the razor's edge (Shift-out at 7200, and held 7100 all the way to the top end)
And a SERIOUS weight loss exercise...
Plastic skiis, Chromoly Trailing arms, single passenger lightweight seat, removed the electric starter and battery...
61 pounds off the sled!
NOW; I had them off the line, but they'd pull me on the top-end on the longer runs...
A gearing change later... I was eating Yammie -unches from them on!
The top-end went from a comfortable 80 mph, up to 89...
And then; I sold the dang thing and found another project...
(I miss that sled!)

Oh! And to stay on topic... 93 octane only!!!

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

:thumbup: I kind of like the new Phazers...
The originals (84 to 91), were my personal nemesis...
I had an Indy Trail Deluxe (488cc, 133.5" track...)
They'd eat my lunch at every drag race... :gaah:
So I got busy...
Aaen pipe, 120 wedges, clutched to the razor's edge (Shift-out at 7200, and held 7100 all the way to the top end)
And a SERIOUS weight loss exercise...
Plastic skiis, Chromoly Trailing arms, single passenger lightweight seat, removed the electric starter and battery...
61 pounds off the sled!
NOW; I had them off the line, but they'd pull me on the top-end on the longer runs...
A gearing change later... I was eating Yammie -unches from them on!
The top-end went from a comfortable 80 mph, up to 89...
And then; I sold the dang thing and found another project...
(I miss that sled!)

Oh! And to stay on topic... 93 octane only!!!....As I stated in my earlier post ...Google " Octane ", and then use that knowledge as it relates to the Spyder___ I am sure you can safely use Race Gas 104 Octane, but will your Spyder run faster, smoother, pull harder, accelerate stronger......because you are using this super high Octane gas ........NO,NO,NO,& NO.......................Have fun........Mike :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

I used 93 in the sled...
air-cooled engine, being run past the rpm levels set by the manufacturer, and following Aaen's suggestion. :thumbup:
And everybody knows how quickly detonation used to destroy two-strokes! :yikes:

[dndfindley]

I wanna see pics!


https://www.google.com/search?q=1934+Mercedes+Benz+500+K&client=firefox-a&hs=8ER&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=t9z6UqTIOofyqQHQi4C4BA&ved=0CEIQsAQ&biw=1536&bih=762

1934 - Hitler was already in power.

[jcthorne]

Holy cow, how much gas do you BUY!, to take the 30 cents saving and buy 2 cobra's, 2 Spyder's, 4 Snowmobiles and a 1934 Mercedes?. I bought a Pirus and on what I saved on gas all I got was a new dishwasher for the wife.... :roflblack:

Harry
I bought my GT and Chevron built a new refinery with the additional profits.....

[Bob Denman]

:roflblack::2thumbs:
But who cares?? You're in a GT! :bowdown: