LIMITED VS RTS.....NEED TO DECIDE BY MONDAY...

[jterrymaddux]

one moment I think the limited is the way to go.....two hours later I think the RTS is the right move....Help me out guys. This is my first Spyder and I just don't want to buy the RTS and regret not going all the way.....Thanks for your input. Has anyone else had this hard of a time deciding...

[happyspyder2039]

one moment I think the limited is the way to go.....two hours later I think the RTS is the right move....Help me out guys. This is my first Spyder and I just don't want to buy the RTS and regret not going all the way.....Thanks for your input. Has anyone else had this hard of a time deciding...just my opinion but if you want to over pay for gps & inner luggage bags also a little bit of chrome then limited is the way to go.

[NancysToy]

Only you can make this decision. If you want the added accessories, the LTD may be your choice. If the RTS is all you need, or you only want to add an accessory or two, that's the way to go. Only you know what's going through your mind.

[SpyderAnn01]

Like Scotty said the decision is all yours. Have you looked at both side by side? Do you like chrome? If you really, really like the chrome then go for the Limited. Personally, I prefer the blacked out look of the RTS.

I use my IPhone for GPS through my Scala Rider so I wouldn't care to have the GPS on the Limited. The rolling suitcase for the front trunk is nice but I feel a bit overpriced. The RTS has the coolest seat of all the models for 2014 with the two-tone colors.

Decisions, decisions.............Good luck.

[B.B.]

Keeping in mind the Limited is only 6% more than the RT-S SE6on the front end, yet (for comparison) the SE5's are bringing 8% to 10% more on the back end of 2 year old private-party sales and trade values, I would go Limited. And I just found out, the full luggage set is not included on the 2014's. 4 year warranty is extended at least through the end of February on both units. Good Luck with your purchase......BB

[Benggolf]

I say go Limited! Bite the bullet and have a complete factory optioned bike.
When I order mine, it will definitely be an RT-L (without a doubt)!

[Vrooom]

I went for color first. Just had to have yellow, and not available on 13 limited. I, too agree differences not worth initial expenditure.

[TicketBait]

Back when the RT spyder first came out, I had the same dilemma of a choice, it wasn't money as my concern, just getting the ride the way I wanted. Went with the premier edition, ( now called Limited) and use luggage on all trips. The chrome pops on the timeless black, the GPS keep in mind is now pre installed, right? That's gotta save over adding labor from dealer to install. However my next one will be, gosh I don't know decisions decisions.... Think it will come down to color choice:)

[PMK]

We were uncertain also. This being the wifes first real moto riding, 99.999999% is about her enjoying it. We had looked at 2013 STs machines but somehow did not jump in back then. A few weeks ago, we began talking about the idea again, but were casual about it.

We had a bicycle event we were traveling for, and when I got home so we could take the 4 hour drive, wife says she found a Can Am dealer on the way with a minor course deviation and wanted to go have another look. We stopped in, she sat on a few machines. It quickly became obvious that my desire for the STs was not the best choice once I saw she appreciated the safety for a first time rider offered by the RT rear accommodations.

We left the dealer on Friday, while continuing our journey North on I75 towards the bicycle event, I made some phone calls. My friend and rider that is a retired art instructor was kind enough to visit the Can Am website to discuss colors. Another friend, that is a moto junkie, and works in a dealership (not Can Am) filled me in on the new 2014 info he had.

Saturday was the bicycle event. One reason for the Can Am is my wifes back is beat up from years of riding bicycles off road. The Can Am is a good fit while she heals up and beyond. After the event, we spent some time oooggling the 2014 catalog and accessories catalog.

Sunday and the return trip had her decide to again go by the same dealer. She again went to the RT series. Now it was time to decide, limited or RTs. Also we were uncertain about the Cognac color.

Ultimately, we both decided we did not care for the chrome on the limited. The dealer brought a Cognac RTs in the crate from the warehouse. On the floor (was not there on Friday) was a Pearl White RTs. We were able to see both colors and opted in on white.

So like Spyder Ann, much came down to how it looks. Option wise, the wife insisted on an oem GPS and full machine cover. So the Pearl White RTs became the wifes Valentines Day present. We have had the machine out and about locally and it seems to always draw a crowd. Friends that also ride have been impressed to the point of worry they may be in the market now for a Spyder.

Kind of lengthy way to decide on a machine, but hope it helps.

PK

[DrewNJ]

Buy whatever puts the biggest smile on your face that you can afford.



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[Lamonster]

one moment I think the limited is the way to go.....two hours later I think the RTS is the right move....Help me out guys. This is my first Spyder and I just don't want to buy the RTS and regret not going all the way.....Thanks for your input. Has anyone else had this hard of a time deciding...
I've owned both and I went with the RTS this year, it has more of I want and less of what I don't need.

[fastfraser]

What a lot of folks forget the RT Limited comes with Auto included in the price plus factory GPS and a ton of chrome .If you are not a fan of chrome then the RTS is the way to go but when you add Auto and GPS .:dontknow:

[Chief-J]

I have the RT-S SM5. To me it all depends on how much extra cash you have up front to part with. Test ride both, put them through the same test then decide. Good luck. Remember you are the one riding and making the payments!

[Dragonrider]

All of the important stuff is included on the RT S - I don't care about chrome (JMHO). Even with the hit at the other end, I would opt for the SM 6, and add a hand brake, if I ever got another Spyder. Use the extra money to buy a trailer, comfort seat, or whatever other farkles you might want. A good GPS can be had for under $200, and an hour or so to install.

Having said that, I don't have to deal with traffic jams anymore. If you do, then the SE option is a VERY worthwhile investment.

Again, JMHO

[ThreeWheels]

Interesting thread.
I bought my RT-S in 2010. It was the top of the line at the time, there was no Limited version.
Recently, I've been thinking that if I get another Spyder, I'd buy a base RT or maybe the Audience and Convenince model and then add only those accessories that I want.
I like the manual transmission and I'm not enamored by all the chrome.
I would want the Radio, CB/Intercom and GPS interface.
As I said, I'd get the GPS from Garmin and get the installation kit from BRP.

[Bob Denman]

Which one floats your boat better? :shocked:
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/7/7_3_200.gif
Black... or Chrome? :dontknow:
Functionally; both bikes are identical. Okay; In the Limited, you'll get the GPS unit, some luggage for the funk, and a shelf in the top trunk...
The rest is purely cosmetic...
Your cash; your call!
Happy Hunting! :thumbup:

[Jeriatric]

one moment I think the limited is the way to go.....two hours later I think the RTS is the right move....Help me out guys. This is my first Spyder and I just don't want to buy the RTS and regret not going all the way.....Thanks for your input. Has anyone else had this hard of a time deciding...

Ask yourself what you want/need on your spyder and get the one that satisfys your wants and needs.KISS

Then, get out there and put as many miles on the clock as is possible.

[Cruzr Joe]

I've owned both and I went with the RTS this year, it has more of I want and less of what I don't need.


:agree:, i have had the RT basic, the RT Limited and now the RTS. But go with whatever makes you smile. The only big difference is the built in GPS on the Limited, most of the other items are for looks. SE6, only way to go, and will pay for itself on resale.

cruzr joe

[WhiteFang]

when I made my choice between the 2012 RTS and the Limited I went with the SM5 as I am used to shifting and was $1500 cheaper, also as an ex-auto mechanic -- less working parts = less parts that can fail , and went with the RT-S -- it had all I wanted -- I didnt need the GPS system as I used my Garmin from my car -- dont really need all the chrome -- was going to replace the seat anyway so the"stitching" wasnt a need-- I wanted the Spyder in red -- to me not only was I happier with the RT-S but it was less expensive -- which led to more money for farkles!!

[MouthPiece]

I've owned both and I went with the RTS this year, it has more of I want and less of what I don't need.

​BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spyderbirds]

Get what you really want up front. You should look at them side by side at least in pics of the same view.

On a side note since the RT A&C is no longer being made that made my 2010 RT A&C instantly more valuable :joke::yes:

[SpyderAnn01]

What I think would really make things interesting is if they offered the RTS as a truly Sport machine. Maybe a sportier set of shocks as standard equipment along with a cool exhaust. They could make the Limited the Cadillac with a softer suspension and all of the chrome.

[Bob Denman]

:agree: They could even play around with the windshield and air deflector packages in order to further differentiate them... :thumbup:
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_12_12.gifShorter fenders: front and rear... stock Akrapovic on the RTS... wider front tires...
This could be FUN!! Who'll be the first to build one? :D

[SpyderAnn01]

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2014 Spyder RT-S SE6/Sm6 with awesome 1330cc motor needs only a couple of performance mods to make it a truely "Sport machine":
1. Get rid of cat converter. (have performance muffler shop remove cat, cut exhaust pipe end connections off cat, weld 2" stainless steel exhaust pipe with hangers to end
pipes; let motor idle for 15 minutes to allow ECM to adjust fuel ratio to new exhaust pipe flow; ryde with big smile on face!!!
2. Put on Elka shocks.
3. Put on Russell custom seat with backrest, (my preference).
Results:
Noticeable increase in torque/power off idle on up to 6,000 rpm.
Louder exhaust from stock muffler; (sounds like a racing sport triple wailing sound)!!
Better fuel milage.
No more right side heat from cat.
Very stable cornering/freeway ride.
Increased comfort.
Of course "your choice". I prefer blacked out 2014 RT-S.
Jim

Was your Day Long Seat from a previous Spyder? I was wondering if they can do the two tone seat cover?

[SAPD911]

What a lot of folks forget the RT Limited comes with Auto included in the price plus factory GPS and a ton of chrome .If you are not a fan of chrome then the RTS is the way to go but when you add Auto and GPS .:dontknow:

I agree

[maliamd]

It all depends on what you need and want. I found out years ago that on appliances I buy the model with the functions that I only use. Why pay extra for all the bell and whistles and doo dads if you don't use them. My washer and dryer are basic, my dishwasher is basic, and my microwave is basic. Costs lots of $$$ for stuff you don't use. ;)

[NancysToy]

83324833238332583326

2014 Spyder RT-S SE6/Sm6 with awesome 1330cc motor needs only a couple of performance mods to make it a truely "Sport machine":
1. Get rid of cat converter. (have performance muffler shop remove cat, cut exhaust pipe end connections off cat, weld 2" stainless steel exhaust pipe with hangers to end
pipes; let motor idle for 15 minutes to allow ECM to adjust fuel ratio to new exhaust pipe flow; ryde with big smile on face!!!
2. Put on Elka shocks.
3. Put on Russell custom seat with backrest, (my preference).
Results:
Noticeable increase in torque/power off idle on up to 6,000 rpm.
Louder exhaust from stock muffler; (sounds like a racing sport triple wailing sound)!!
Better fuel milage.
No more right side heat from cat.
Very stable cornering/freeway ride.
Increased comfort.
Of course "your choice". I prefer blacked out 2014 RT-S.
Jim
Don't forget "Go on a diet and lose 300 pounds." Sorry, a touring machine will never really be a "sport machine". The Spyder is a spirited performer and can be made even better in some ways, but it doesn't even crack into the "sport tourer" category, IMO. When it will do 0-60 in 5 seconds and run 140 on the top end, I may reconsider my position.

[ARtraveler]

For me it boils down to chrome and Garmin--add $2,000 more. This go around, I like the color selection offered for the RT-S version and the two tone seat. I currently own the 2010 RT-S--which came with virtually everything--plus chrome colored trim, and a 2011 A & C which I got a good deal on. I can live with either the bling or non-bling version. This time around, I was looking at price as being part of the factor.

If not buying the LTD version will cause remorse, then by all means go for it. :thumbup:

[Mike on a Trike]

Echoing most of the sentiments above.......

For me, I love the blue with the blacked out accents, so it was an easy decision.

My Spyder is an SE5, so automatic just like the limited. Really the only differences are the blackout vs chrome, no GPS, and no luggage. It wasn't a huge price difference. Neither do I think it will make a huge difference if/when I sell it down the road. If I want to add the Nav and the luggage, I can certainly do so. Like others, I use my phone and Sena BT headset for phone, nav, music, etc. I wouldn't stress about "which model is right to buy" between the two.

Which one are you most happy visualizing yourself on? THAT is the question to focus on.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

As I said, I'd get the GPS from Garmin and get the installation kit from BRP.
My take, after just doing it. Buy the BRP GPS installation kit, maybe even for less $$ on eBay. Buy whatever GPS you want and a RAM mounting cradle to fit, along with whatever you need to connect the cradle to the GPS mount. Buy a stereo extension cable and an inline USB power adapter. Connect the GPS to the radio via the BRP GPS harness and the two other cables, and voila, you have GPS voice instructions thru the radio, just like the OEM.

I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2.0 7" tablet with Sygic GPS app for my GPS. I'll post some photos and instructions in a week or so when I'm finished getting all the mods done on my '14 RT.

[Bob Denman]

Don't forget "Go on a diet and lose 300 pounds." Sorry, a touring machine will never really be a "sport machine". The Spyder is a spirited performer and can be made even better in some ways, but it doesn't even crack into the "sport tourer" category, IMO. When it will do 0-60 in 5 seconds and run 140 on the top end, I may reconsider my position.
:agree: About the best that you can hope for, is the equivalent of a 1969 Chrysler Town and Country Station Wagon equipped with the "Ground-Pounder" 440...
VERY entertaining; but certainly NOT sporty! ;)

[spyderyderjim]

Don't forget "Go on a diet and lose 300 pounds." Sorry, a touring machine will never really be a "sport machine". The Spyder is a spirited performer and can be made even better in some ways, but it doesn't even crack into the "sport tourer" category, IMO. When it will do 0-60 in 5 seconds and run 140 on the top end, I may reconsider my position.

Scotty, Read my lips: We are not talking motorcycles here.
A comparison between 2014 Spyder RT-S vs 2014 Spyder RT-L !
I have hands on experience ryding my new 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6!! You are looking at a photo, in snow country!!
You have NO Clue the performance of triple 1330 awesome motor, major handling improvements of a new 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6;
(by adding stage 5 Elka shocks, cat bypass pipe, etc. even more).
My 2014 RT-S will take a posted 30 mph corner at 70 mph, no nanny. That is "sport" handling, performance improvements on 2014 Spyder RT-S.
Rude comments such as: "Go on a diet and lose 300 pounds" have no place on a help blog.
End of subject.
Enjoy.
Jim

[prmurat]

I did not like the plastic chrome on my -11 nor did I like it on the -14... So I bought a S model where the plastic chrome is now plastic brushed alloy and the wheels are black. I did not want bluetooth either and love the black wheels.

[auldy]

Half your luck in the States guys

The incoming LTD to Australia you can have in Silver, Silver or Silver :(:yikes:

I'm after the Cognac, it's only available in the RTS here but the wife want's chrome wheels

Looks like RTS and chase some wheels

:thumbup:

[PMK]

My take, after just doing it. Buy the BRP GPS installation kit, maybe even for less $$ on eBay. Buy whatever GPS you want and a RAM mounting cradle to fit, along with whatever you need to connect the cradle to the GPS mount. Buy a stereo extension cable and an inline USB power adapter. Connect the GPS to the radio via the BRP GPS harness and the two other cables, and voila, you have GPS voice instructions thru the radio, just like the OEM.

I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2.0 7" tablet with Sygic GPS app for my GPS. I'll post some photos and instructions in a week or so when I'm finished getting all the mods done on my '14 RT.

I am curious to see how your installation compares to ours. Wife wanted GPS, which is fine and had us work the BRP Garmin and harness into the deal. I did the install myself. The install was not difficult, but the instructions do not show the install as it regards to a 2014 in my opinion. The 2 supplied short extension cables they show needing to be installed appear to be for previous years and not a 2014. This mistake in the BRP instructions had me looking for a mating connector that did not exist.

FWIW, yes, our BRP came with the Garmin, it also has the mount for the steering. Beyond the steering mount, there was a full set of oem Garmin mounts for other applications, a set of Ram mounts which as mentioned could be easily used if a proper cradle and Ram ball were purchased for different electronics or other item to mount.

Regarding the BRP Garmin harness. I was not to excited about the suggested wire harness route down the fuel tank area on the right side. The harness length was a bit on the short side for a true plug and play, and would have all wires including power and ground lay against the steel fuel tank. I relocated the location of the oem chassis connector location to allow the harness to follow the existing oem harness away from the fuel tank and along a lower location on the right side.

PK

[den1953]

Well it's Tuesday, Monday came and went what's the verdict?

[NancysToy]

Scotty, You are comparing Apples to Oranges. We are not talking crotch rocket motorcycles here. 2014 Spyder RT-S vs 2014 Spyder RT-L comparison!
This is what Spyder Ann01 mentioned:
"What I think would really make things interesting is if they offered the RTS as a truly Sport machine. Maybe a sportier set of shocks as standard equipment along with a cool exhaust. They could make the Limited the Cadillac with a softer suspension and all of the chrome."
You have NO Clue the performance of triple 1330 awesome motor, handling improvements of a new 2014 Spyder RT-S SE6 by adding stage 5 Elka shocks, cat bypass pipe, etc.
My 2014 RT-S will take a posted 30 mph corner at 70 mph, no nanny. That is "sport" handling, performance improvements on 2014 Spyder RT-S.
End of subject.
Enjoy.
Jim
Crotch rockets are today's sport machines, like it or not. EWverything else is just pretending. I didn't have them in mind, though. The sport tourers of today...or even 15 years ago are far more spirited than the Spyder RT can ever hope to be. I'm talking BMW R1200RT, K1600, Yamaha FJR1300, and on down the line. The Spyder RT fills its niche well, and the ACE1300 is certainly an improvement for a tourer...but a sport bike it will never be. As you said...apples and oranges. You can't make a sport bike out of a touring machine, you can only improve the touring machine's performance until it suits your needs.

[Bob Ledford]

If you want the bling or ego trip for bragging rights. Go for the RTL then find a nice clean dry shelf in the garage for the never going to use items.

If $$$$ is an issue then go for a lesser Spyder. Remember that one of the differences between models beside $$$$ is bling and seating position or at least it used to be!

When we bought our RTL it was seating position, then storage space (boy did we blow that one) features like lights, cover for weather, color and a little bit of bragging rights and resale value.

The key point has to be WHAT DO YOU WANT TO END UP WITH? we can sit around the keyboard all day and night long and feed you opinions about what we think is right and wrong with every Spyder ever made. All you get out of it is words and more mental chaos to muddle through.

Good of luck and don't wind up with a headache or a Harley!!!

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

don't wind up with a headache or a Harley!!!
Aren't they synonymous? :roflblack:

[SAPD911]

Well it's Tuesday, Monday came and went what's the verdict?

he bailed from all the comments

[manttila]

I believe I read that the Corbin seats will fit all years of the RT.

will the luggage from a 2010 fit a 2014? Looking for reasons to go for the RT-S

[Bob Denman]

Yes; they will... :thumbup:

[mollyo]

sorry to hear about your dilema. I have had both. I now have a 2012 Rt ltd It has everything you could possibly want in accesseries as well as custom luggage if you are in to travelling. Seating is much better for the passenger. A little more expensive but if you start doing mods, it soon adds up.
Good luck with your decision
Safe drive
Mollyo:ani29:

[DragonSpyder]

sorry to hear about your dilema. I have had both. I now have a 2012 Rt ltd It has everything you could possibly want in accesseries as well as custom luggage if you are in to travelling. Seating is much better for the passenger. A little more expensive but if you start doing mods, it soon adds up.
Good luck with your decision
Safe drive
Mollyo:ani29:


What is it about the limited seat that makes it more comfortable for the passenger?