2014's with oil leaks

[SAPD911]

As many of you know there are some of the early build 2014's with the clutch set screw leak. The service bulletin is out and most dealers do not have it yet. (at least the two in my area didn't). Anyway, the part needed is Loctite #7649 (primer, found locally). Well, of course the dealers did not have it and had to order it. No one had it locally either.

Just a heads up for those getting this repair. Make sure your dealer is using this exact primer. Mine is still sitting at the dealer for a week now. Hopefully they will get the Loctite Tuesday. Fingers crossed.

http://www.spydertechnician.com/dlfiles/2014%20RT%20SE6%20Clutch%20Cover%20Oil%20Leak%20-%20Set%20Screw.pdf

[Chupaca]

Why they don't send out the bulletin with the parts escapes me. This is available locally but dealers have to have it sent from the factory. Is theirs different..?? Hate to see folks held up for simple things with easy solutions...jmo :thumbup:

[SAPD911]

Why they don't send out the bulletin with the parts escapes me. This is available locally but dealers have to have it sent from the factory. Is theirs different..?? Hate to see folks held up for simple things with easy solutions...jmo :thumbup:

The factory isn't sending the Loctite, they have to get it locally or order it. And I better have 30 miles when I pick up the bike when its ready. Mine is the first 14 they have seen. Also look at the confusion on the bulletin. Says 3 different kinds of Loctite on Page 8. Very Confusing, typo I am sure!

[stewartj239]

So they are using Loctite to fix a leak? Doesn't it sound more like a faulty screw design? I have never owned a motorcycle that has needed Loctite to prevent a fluid from leaking out of it. Am I missing something?

[Bob Denman]

I'm curious as well; is that screw just backing itself out?? :dontknow:

[BikerDoc]

I'm curious as well; is that screw just backing itself out?? :dontknow: Motorcycle vibrations due indeed cause screws to loosen without loctite (and i have experienced this with other brands).. The screw/bolt in question was not torqued down properly with the lactate present to cause it from coming lose. This issue was found by my dealer on the second bike delivered in the US (on Christmas Eve 2013 ) and BRP was promptly notified. The likelihood is that only a very small number of bikes were delivered with the issue and they have been fixed by now.. damn spell checker loctite

[spyderyderjim]

83035
The factory isn't sending the Loctite, they have to get it locally or order it. And I better have 30 miles when I pick up the bike when its ready. Mine is the first 14 they have seen. Also look at the confusion on the bulletin. Says 3 different kinds of Loctite on Page 8. Very Confusing, typo I am sure!

Brp is now shipping a kit of NEW 6mm set screw & Locktite 243, (primer, dealer has) for 2014 Spyder RT's. It takes about 1 week for shipping.
BRP said a NEW set screw has to be installed, with the primer, Locktite.
My 2014 RT-S SE6 was repaired yesterday Peoria, Arizona service dept.
NO oil leaks!!!!
Jim

[stewartj239]

Brp is now shipping a kit of NEW 6mm set screw, Locktite 243, primer for 2014 Spyder RT's. It takes about 1 week for shipping.
BRP said a NEW set screw has to be installed, with the primer, Locktite.
My 2014 RT-S SE6 was repaired yesterday Peoria, Arizona service dept.
NO oil leaks!!!!
Jim

Thanks for the update Jim. It makes sense that Loctite alone is not the problem.

[SAPD911]

83035

Brp is now shipping a kit of NEW 6mm set screw, Locktite 243, primer for 2014 Spyder RT's. It takes about 1 week for shipping.
BRP said a NEW set screw has to be installed, with the primer, Locktite.
My 2014 RT-S SE6 was repaired yesterday Peoria, Arizona service dept.
NO oil leaks!!!!
Jim

great, my dealer did not order any screw from the factory, they only ordered Loctite from a local distributor. Called the dealer and they have no clue about this set screw being replaced! Great, Now I have to wait another week! This is so frustrating! Why is it so difficult! My local dealership is CLUELESS, said they haven't even looked to see where the leak is coming from, took the customers word where it was coming from!

It makes sense to replace the screw. Dealership also said they called BRP and mine is not in the range of the recall. grrrr. They also said that forums such as this can generate false information, ect!

[Bob Denman]

The screw/bolt in question was not torqued down properly with the lactate present to cause it from coming lose. .. damn spell checker loctite

NoNoNo... I really preferred your first version... :roflblack:
You said a MOUTHFUL!! :D :thumbup:

[oldgoat]

NoNoNo... I really preferred your first version... :roflblack:
You said a MOUTHFUL!! :D :thumbup:


This is being milked for all it is worth.

[ARtraveler]

A simple thing it seems. They really need to get the act together. At this juncture, the problem should be solved at the factory. Any that escaped the factory, should be fixed by the dealer before delivery. The customer should not have to worry about an oil leak on a $30K machine. What don't they get? :(

[SAPD911]

A simple thing it seems. They really need to get the act together. At this juncture, the problem should be solved at the factory. Any that escaped the factory, should be fixed by the dealer before delivery. The customer should not have to worry about an oil leak on a $30K machine. What don't they get? :(

Yep, I just can't fathom a dealer would take a customers word on a leak. Uhm, how about and verify what the problem is first and foremost! I blame BRP for this whole mess. Not a happy new customer!

[NancysToy]

great, my dealer did not order any screw from the factory, they only ordered Loctite from a local distributor. Called the dealer and they have no clue about this set screw being replaced! Great, Now I have to wait another week! This is so frustrating! Why is it so difficult! My local dealership is CLUELESS, said they haven't even looked to see where the leak is coming from, took the customers word where it was coming from!

It makes sense to replace the screw. Dealership also said they called BRP and mine is not in the range of the recall. grrrr. They also said that forums such as this can generate false information, ect!

If your Spyder is not in the range of the warranty campaign, then the dealer needs to look at it like any other warrantied machine that comes in with a problem...troubleshoot and repair. It is still their responsibility whether it is on a bulletin or not. An owner should not describe the repair unless he or she is certain that it applies...the dealer is correct to question following a forum report blindly. Let them try to do their jobs first, then point them in the right direction if necessary. If all else fails, contact BRP Customer Care. If this is the same problem outside the original range, or a different problem, the dealer will report it to BRP in order to get reimbursement, and other owners may benefit.

[spyderyderjim]

83049
great, my dealer did not order any screw from the factory, they only ordered Loctite from a local distributor. Called the dealer and they have no clue about this set screw being replaced! Great, Now I have to wait another week! This is so frustrating! Why is it so difficult! My local dealership is CLUELESS, said they haven't even looked to see where the leak is coming from, took the customers word where it was coming from!

It makes sense to replace the screw. Dealership also said they called BRP and mine is not in the range of the recall. grrrr. They also said that forums such as this can generate false information, ect!

Here is a photo of my 2014 RT set screw oil drip leak. Just re-Loctited same set screw, & I still had a drip oil leak. New set screw stopped leak.
When riding, the wind moves the small oil drip to cover muffler, etc.
Like I mentioned just putting polishing cloths under leak, you can keep riding until repairs are made.
They don't change your oil, just top off for small amount that drained out.
Hope this helps 2014 RT riders.
Your call. Jim

[ulflyer]

If BRP is providing new set screws for those that leak, what about the rest of the machines that have not yet leaked and were built before BRP corrected the problem, or may not be on their Vin list of potential leakers?

Sounds to me like something that needs clarifying by BRP. I'd hate to be on a trip and this one little thing crop to cause problems.

[SAPD911]

If BRP is providing new set screws for those that leak, what about the rest of the machines that have not yet leaked and were built before BRP corrected the problem, or may not be on their Vin list of potential leakers?

Sounds to me like something that needs clarifying by BRP. I'd hate to be on a trip and this one little thing crop to cause problems.

I am calling BRP Monday to get this clarified. Also speaking to the service manager tuesday as to why the tech did not even look to see where the oil leak is coming from.

And to all the people that say I am whining and to drive it. I am not whining, I am simply frustrated and want a simple answer to a simple problem. Seems like no one cares about the problem at BRP or the dealer!

[BRPcare]

Hi everyone,


There seems to be some confusion surrounding this bulletin. Here is the corrected information:


The bulletin mentioned in this thread is deprecated; it was temporary and has been replaced by a newer one that your dealer will be able to compare your VIN against. The dealers who will service affected vehicles (a very small number) should already have the parts required to perform the update shipped to them. Also, note that all vehicles produced after this bulletin was released already have the update applied to them.


Hope this helps clear things up.

[SAPD911]

Hi everyone,


There seems to be some confusion surrounding this bulletin. Here is the corrected information:


The bulletin mentioned in this thread is deprecated; it was temporary and has been replaced by a newer one that your dealer will be able to compare your VIN against. The dealers who will service affected vehicles (a very small number) should already have the parts required to perform the update shipped to them. Also, note that all vehicles produced after this bulletin was released already have the update applied to them.


Hope this helps clear things up.

Thanks.

[SAPD911]

Thanks again Steve, I am just frustrated at my dealer for not even looking for the leak, they relied on what a customer said and ordered the loctite. I'll deal with them tomorrow, hopefully it is something easy to fix.

[ulflyer]

Hi everyone,


There seems to be some confusion surrounding this bulletin. Here is the corrected information:


The bulletin mentioned in this thread is deprecated; it was temporary and has been replaced by a newer one that your dealer will be able to compare your VIN against. The dealers who will service affected vehicles (a very small number) should already have the parts required to perform the update shipped to them. Also, note that all vehicles produced after this bulletin was released already have the update applied to them.


Hope this helps clear things up.

If the original list of VIN numbers are not valid, then that still leaves some of us who purchased early built machines, before the OIL LEAK was even mentioned, without any idea as to whether ours have a potential LEAk. The dealer may know, or may not have paid any attention to the updated info. Often we hear about dealers who are totally in the dark about a given bulletin.

Steve, can't you issue an updated list for us to compare and then get with our dealers as we see the need? If not, I can truck off to the dealer in inquire.

I'd just feel more comfortable knowing.

[cuznjohn]

i think if the dealer we bought our bikes off of is not a heavy BRP dealer as far as spyders, that they don't tune into what is going on. my dealer is not a big spyder sales dealer and he had no clue as far as the heat fix or now the ecm update, both times i brought the paper work that i found on here

[Velocityguy]

Hi everyone,


There seems to be some confusion surrounding this bulletin. Here is the corrected information:


The bulletin mentioned in this thread is deprecated; it was temporary and has been replaced by a newer one that your dealer will be able to compare your VIN against. The dealers who will service affected vehicles (a very small number) should already have the parts required to perform the update shipped to them. Also, note that all vehicles produced after this bulletin was released already have the update applied to them.


Hope this helps clear things up.

My dealer will be fixing a leak on my new 2014 RT Limited next week. Also, the dealer will be replacing both front lower panels. They are both loose, and the right side panel flew off into the road and got run over by autos that were behind me. Neither fit well at all. New ones on the way. This issue has caused a little consternation at the dealer. None of his other 2014's have this issue.

[SAPD911]

My dealer will be fixing a leak on my new 2014 RT Limited next week. Also, the dealer will be replacing both front lower panels. They are both loose, and the right side panel flew off into the road and got run over by autos that were behind me. Neither fit well at all. New ones on the way. This issue has caused a little consternation at the dealer. None of his other 2014's have this issue.

whats your build and vin if u don't mind sharing? Mine was Jan 7, VIN #570 and they said it was not in the recall or had leaks? Is the leak in the clutch set screw area?

[SAPD911]

Hi everyone,


There seems to be some confusion surrounding this bulletin. Here is the corrected information:


The bulletin mentioned in this thread is deprecated; it was temporary and has been replaced by a newer one that your dealer will be able to compare your VIN against. The dealers who will service affected vehicles (a very small number) should already have the parts required to perform the update shipped to them. Also, note that all vehicles produced after this bulletin was released already have the update applied to them.


Hope this helps clear things up.

Steve,


Just got off the phone with my service manager and mine definitely has the oil leak where the clutch screw is. Just a heads up as it looks like those that were supposedly fixed were not fixed at the factory, well at least mine was not! BRP is sending the set screw kit with Loctite to get this fixed. Lets hope this is the only issue with the 14's. :)

[SAPD911]

BRP sent the replacement parts in 3 different shipments. I mean come on, all that is required is Loctite, a small screw, and one other item. Really BRP. Dealer couldn't give me a definite date although they said it was shipped Wed express overnight! Probably wont get here till next week due to weather, customs, ect!

Good new is, I finally spoke to the tech working on my bike. He is going to double and triple check everything on the bike before its completed.

[stillriding]

​My dealer called yesterday to say my RTS is now "on the list" to have the leak fixed. I've not noticed any leak and the dealer initially said that my Spyder wasn't affected. The service manager said that I'd have to leave it overnight so they can be certain that the sealant set up properly.

[PattyandJoe]

As many of you know there are some of the early build 2014's with the clutch set screw leak. The service bulletin is out and most dealers do not have it yet. (at least the two in my area didn't). Anyway, the part needed is Loctite #7649 (primer, found locally). Well, of course the dealers did not have it and had to order it. No one had it locally either.

Just a heads up for those getting this repair. Make sure your dealer is using this exact primer. Mine is still sitting at the dealer for a week now. Hopefully they will get the Loctite Tuesday. Fingers crossed.

http://www.spydertechnician.com/dlfiles/2014%20RT%20SE6%20Clutch%20Cover%20Oil%20Leak%20-%20Set%20Screw.pdf
Hello fellowSpyder Lovers. We are looking for other Spyder owners who might have had a problem with the porous metal oil leak. We had about 4000 miles on it before it started. It has been at our dealer for almost 1 month...Any info on how yours was handled would be appreciated, Thanks in advance

[palover]

Hello fellowSpyder Lovers. We are looking for other Spyder owners who might have had a problem with the porous metal oil leak. We had about 4000 miles on it before it started. It has been at our dealer for almost 1 month...Any info on how yours was handled would be appreciated, Thanks in advance

My 2014 with only 100 miles has leaked badly vin#5145. The dealer tells me that 2 set screws need replacing and sealed. The one screw seems to now be ok after sealing, the clutch housing screw still leaks and the are asking BRP for a new clutch housing. New machine that should have been corrected at the factory or dealer before delivery. I have no idea as to when I will get my Spyder back - what a tease!
palover

[krazykat]

My 2014 with only 100 miles has leaked badly vin#5145. The dealer tells me that 2 set screws need replacing and sealed. The one screw seems to now be ok after sealing, the clutch housing screw still leaks and the are asking BRP for a new clutch housing. New machine that should have been corrected at the factory or dealer before delivery. I have no idea as to when I will get my Spyder back - what a tease!
palover

Close to yours - my vin #5333 no oil leaking problem in 1400 miles.

[Bob Denman]

My 2014 with only 100 miles has leaked badly vin#5145. The dealer tells me that 2 set screws need replacing and sealed. The one screw seems to now be ok after sealing, the clutch housing screw still leaks and the are asking BRP for a new clutch housing. New machine that should have been corrected at the factory or dealer before delivery. I have no idea as to when I will get my Spyder back - what a tease!
palover
On the birght side; the source has been found, and a fix is in the works! :thumbup:

I'm rel sorry to hear that you're having to endure this...
...But the bike (and the wait!), will be worth it! nojoke

[palover]

Hi everyone,


There seems to be some confusion surrounding this bulletin. Here is the corrected information:


The bulletin mentioned in this thread is deprecated; it was temporary and has been replaced by a newer one that your dealer will be able to compare your VIN against. The dealers who will service affected vehicles (a very small number) should already have the parts required to perform the update shipped to them. Also, note that all vehicles produced after this bulletin was released already have the update applied to them.


Hope this helps clear things up.

I only had it 3 days and 100 miles. The dealer tells me he has found 2 oil leaks and he needs a new clutch housing. Afraid to take the Spyder on any trips for fear of being stranded, totally unacceptable, when BRP knew about the leaks early this year, why were the defective machines allowed to be delivered to dealers? My new Spyder was only 3 days old with 100 miles. If I pursue obtaining a new replacement there is no guarantee that it will not leak. I'm talking to my attorney after Labor day in an attempt to obtain a refund from BRP. I knowingly was sold a defective product.
Ed Tirk
VIN# 005145
egtmt@verizon.net

[SpyRyd]

Hello fellowSpyder Lovers. We are looking for other Spyder owners who might have had a problem with the porous metal oil leak. We had about 4000 miles on it before it started. It has been at our dealer for almost 1 month...Any info on how yours was handled would be appreciated, Thanks in advance

CFPS and WCPS dealers in central Florida have replaced 5-6 1330cc motors because of oil leaks through the motor case. I believe namknight (SL name) may be the most recent. Might want to give Central Florida Power Sports or West Coast Power Sports (in FL also) a call. Also recommend you contact BRP and open a case file.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

:gaah:.....Sorry to hear of all your problems ........so this is just a point of reference 2014 RT,, 5300 + miles VIN # 006475 no leaks , so far :pray: :pray: :pray: Mikeguyver :thumbup:

[ARtraveler]

Production was actually halted early on to fix defects caught on some 2014's at the factory.

There were some complaints then that production was being held up. Most were glad this happened as it showed that BRP was trying to put out a good product.

The 2014's appear to be winners with very few exceptions.

Not every 2014 is going to be perfect, but it seems to be much better compared to 2013.

[Bob Denman]

:agree: All in all; a winner! :2thumbs: :firstplace:

[stewartj239]

Not every 2014 is going to be perfect, but it seems to be much better compared to 2013.

How so? Most 2013 owners did not experience the heat related issues seen on this site. Probably the same is true for the 2014 owners as well. Too bad there isn't a way to know the true numbers for affected machines from both model years.

[Bob Denman]

Well... There were ball-joints, shocks, and heim links too... :D

[stewartj239]

Well... There were ball-joints, shocks, and heim links too... :D

Bob - the 2014 has had other warts as well, including the whole key issue. I'm not looking for a comparison between the two years. I was just saying that it would be nice to know what percentage of units from both years actually suffered the issues that have been seen on this forum. I'll bet that the actual numbers are pretty small. If known, then would be owners might be able to feel more confident about their purchase knowing that these problems truly are not wide spread.

[ARtraveler]

How so? Most 2013 owners did not experience the heat related issues seen on this site. Probably the same is true for the 2014 owners as well. Too bad there isn't a way to know the true numbers for affected machines from both model years.

I do not have actual statistics. But then, everybody seems to interpret them to go with their take on the subject.

My comment comparing 2013 vs. 2014 was based on the shear number of complaints and issues talked about here on SL. I am a regular and read pretty much everything on the site. Those that do the same will most likely agree that there have been fewer overall complaints for the 2014 year compared to the 2013 model year.

I am also very happy that there are many 2013 owners that challenge the fact about the "bad model year" argument. That also verifies what I have said many times concerning a 2013. You either get a good one or a bad one.

[stewartj239]

I do not have actual statistics. But then, everybody seems to interpret them to go with their take on the subject.

My comment comparing 2013 vs. 2014 was based on the shear number of complaints and issues talked about here on SL. I am a regular and read pretty much everything on the site. Those that do the same will most likely agree that there have been fewer overall complaints for the 2014 year compared to the 2013 model year.

I am also very happy that there are many 2013 owners that challenge the fact about the "bad model year" argument. That also verifies what I have said many times concerning a 2013. You either get a good one or a bad one.

Yes, I do agree with you. 2013 definitely had problems and the proof is with those that had melted parts as opposed to "opinions" about their bike being too warm. The 2014 has had its problems too and that has been documented here as well. However, like you said, not all are affected and it is more than likely in the minority for both years which is why actual numbers or percentages could help perspective buyers with their purchasing decision. My concern is that they come here, read a few horror story posts and dismiss the Spyder as a viable option.

[Bob Denman]

. I was just saying that it would be nice to know what percentage of units from both years actually suffered the issues that have been seen on this forum. I'll bet that the actual numbers are pretty small.

:agree: :thumbup:

[PattyandJoe]

CFPS and WCPS dealers in central Florida have replaced 5-6 1330cc motors because of oil leaks through the motor case. I believe namknight (SL name) may be the most recent. Might want to give Central Florida Power Sports or West Coast Power Sports (in FL also) a call. Also recommend you contact BRP and open a case file.
That ended being the case for us also (engine replaced). BRP treated us right as soon as the problem was discovered.

[PattyandJoe]

I heard rumor that those with leaky cases got stupid long duration warranty for no charge.

PK
That would be correct..

[SpyRyd]

That ended being the case for us also (engine replaced). BRP treated us right as soon as the problem was discovered.

Sent you a PM.

[palover]

Motorcycle vibrations due indeed cause screws to loosen without loctite (and i have experienced this with other brands).. The screw/bolt in question was not torqued down properly with the lactate present to cause it from coming lose. This issue was found by my dealer on the second bike delivered in the US (on Christmas Eve 2013 ) and BRP was promptly notified. The likelihood is that only a very small number of bikes were delivered with the issue and they have been fixed by now.. damn spell checker loctite

I purchased my 2014 RT Limited in Sept with 2 massive oil leaks. I had to use Kitty Litter to clean up the mess in both my driveway and garage. The dealer could not repair both set screw leaks and had to order from BRP a 2015 case with the screw holes plugged. This problem occurred after 3 days and only 100 miles. After 1000 miles, no problem.