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spyderdmb1621
01-03-2014, 08:15 PM
How do you say in french........."oops marketing mistake", I spoke with BRP, some one in there marketing dept today, apparently its my opinion she did not have a clue what she was talking about, she stated, marketing published the front switch is on the RTS before it was ok'd, so she admits BRP made a Boo-Boo, BUT she also said, BRP will not be adding it, then she said...."funny Part", why do you even need the switch if its to be opened with the key?" My reply was, well uhmmmm if i have the motor running, i can hit the switch and the Frunk will open, with out it i have to turn of the engine, Her reply was "Ohhh, Well its not hooked up anyway", My reply "with all do respect, it is, i checked on my 14, its just missing your over priced 94 dollar switch"......needless to say she was startled...so there you go..FrunkGate update....

NOW, i have no interest in a debate, do you need it or not and 25 strings arguing over it, it was something i caught, addressed and am informing you all. Lamont- please chime in with your wisdom and knowledge.....

Safe Riding!

spyder3
01-03-2014, 08:21 PM
Your typical BRP head scratcher. Why would you remove that? :banghead:

ARtraveler
01-03-2014, 08:21 PM
Good update. Que Sera Sera. (What will be will be). Not much else to say there. :bowdown:

Magdave
01-03-2014, 08:22 PM
At least they did not tell you to check with your dealer. That is usually the pat answer I get from calling them with a question.:dontknow:

spyder-dude
01-03-2014, 08:26 PM
Try this on the 2014 Spyder RTS with it running. Push down on the key and turn it to the left at the same time. See if the trunk opens. That is how it works on my 2013 STS.

Flash Gordon
01-03-2014, 08:32 PM
It works on the 2014 also. While the engine is running, all you need to do to open the Frunk is push in on the key and turn to the left and it will open and the engine will continue to run. I think they eliminated it because it was just a duplication of something that was not needed and just cost money, and provided for another item to malfunction. just MHO

spyderdmb1621
01-03-2014, 08:42 PM
Here we go again.....understood, that is not the point.
you may not of liked the switch but for a single switch there are a lot of us that do.....Make Sense?


Happy Riding all.

NancysToy
01-03-2014, 09:45 PM
I understand there were some complaints about accidentally releasing the parking brake when hitting the trunk switch. Whether or not this is what prompted BRP to eliminate the switch (in the interest of safety?) only BRP knows. I doubt cost was a factor, since it isn't listed as an extra-cost option, either. It is unfortunate that the advertising listed it, but that is not the first error of that nature for the Spyders. As to the reason the switch costs $100, that is a mystery, too. I'm sure that a specially labeled switch costs more than the standard units from the manufacturer, but that seems like a lot of markup. At any rate, It is no longer standard or a listed option, so the only available alternative is to buy the switch or use an alternate of some sort. Owners and prospective owners will just have to resign themselves to that fact.

spyderdmb1621
01-03-2014, 09:49 PM
It is an option page 32 accessory manual for 2014 and it's all wired up in the 14s I know this because I have a 14 and looked just the switch is missing thanks for your thoughts


Proud owner of the 2nd 2014 Rts delivered in Florida :)

NancysToy
01-03-2014, 10:05 PM
It is an option page 32 accessory manual for 2014 and it's all wired up in the 14s I know this because I have a 14 and looked just the switch is missing thanks for your thoughts


Proud owner of the 2nd 2014 Rts delivered in Florida :)
Interesting that they would show it as an option in the catalog, but not offer it or even acknowledge it in person, when speaking to them. Similar situation when they phased out the RTS cover, my 201 had one and my 2011 did not. Then they cut back the luggage for the LTD and cut out that cover, too. It seems to have become standard practice for them to introduce a model with a lot of frills, and then slowly make them extra-cost options. Aren't marketing folks fun?

jaherbst
01-03-2014, 10:35 PM
Try this on the 2014 Spyder RTS with it running. Push down on the key and turn it to the left at the same time. See if the trunk opens. That is how it works on my 2013 STS.

My 2013 RTS works the same way. You can open the frank with the engine running by simply pushing the key down and turning left.

Always wondered why you had two means to open drunk anyway?

I think you 2014 new owners just need something to whine about because the rest of the bike is so purrfect
:banghead:

3 Wheel Addict
01-04-2014, 05:31 AM
Looks to me like they would use the same switch as the 13 models that came with the frunk switch and that switch is only $55 bucks? (710002353) And at that price it's still too high! If the electric solenoid is there couldn't a person just add a switch anywhere on the bike just by extending the wires and using a water tight momentary switch?

nhoj
01-04-2014, 11:49 AM
... If the electric solenoid is there couldn't a person just add a switch anywhere on the bike just by extending the wires and using a water tight momentary switch?

Good question. The wiring to the switch may be there but is the required solenoid ?

Jeriatric
01-04-2014, 11:59 AM
NOW, i have no interest in a debate,

:roflblack:

ThreeWheels
01-04-2014, 01:00 PM
So many things to worry about.
So little time.

gwritesel
01-04-2014, 02:06 PM
Try this on the 2014 Spyder RTS with it running. Push down on the key and turn it to the left at the same time. See if the trunk opens. That is how it works on my 2013 STS.

My 2012 RT will open that way also

Bob Denman
01-04-2014, 02:56 PM
No debate... Just a quick "thanks!" for this update! :2thumbs:

Idaspud
03-26-2014, 10:15 AM
I understand there were some complaints about accidentally releasing the parking brake when hitting the trunk switch. Whether or not this is what prompted BRP to eliminate the switch (in the interest of safety?) only BRP knows. I doubt cost was a factor, since it isn't listed as an extra-cost option, either. It is unfortunate that the advertising listed it, but that is not the first error of that nature for the Spyders. As to the reason the switch costs $100, that is a mystery, too. I'm sure that a specially labeled switch costs more than the standard units from the manufacturer, but that seems like a lot of markup. At any rate, It is no longer standard or a listed option, so the only available alternative is to buy the switch or use an alternate of some sort. Owners and prospective owners will just have to resign themselves to that fact.


Sorry but it still is listed as a standard part on their web site and also listed as part of the RTS package in their parts catalog for 2014, page 51 lower left corner of that page!:banghead:

Bob Denman
03-26-2014, 10:30 AM
Well; the alternative for them, would have been to recall and destroy ALL of the printed literature... and then re-issue corrected copies!
At a reasonably large expense... :shocked:

harrypottar
03-26-2014, 10:31 AM
Not adding fuel to the fire and not starting a debate, I like the frunk switch. I would like it to go a step further. I know, I know spoilt little brat but I like my toys. My wing had a remote key fob, you could lock and unlock all the bags with the push of a remote button and even pop the trunk with it.

I must state in my defense I'm a gadget junkie, I love gadgets, the more gadgety the thing the more I'm sold.

Phew now I have got to surf the web, I've got myself all wound up for some gadget porn....:roflblack:

harry

SpyderAnn01
03-26-2014, 10:33 AM
Here we go again.....understood, that is not the point.
you may not of liked the switch but for a single switch there are a lot of us that do.....Make Sense?


Happy Riding all.

Sorry but you made it the point when you said that with the motor running you need to hit the switch. Well you don't you can still turn the key and keep the motor running.

Bob Denman
03-26-2014, 10:34 AM
:D Happy Hunting! :2thumbs:

Dan_Ashley
03-26-2014, 02:23 PM
Interesting that they would show it as an option in the catalog, but not offer it or even acknowledge it in person, when speaking to them. Similar situation when they phased out the RTS cover, my 201 had one and my 2011 did not. Then they cut back the luggage for the LTD and cut out that cover, too. It seems to have become standard practice for them to introduce a model with a lot of frills, and then slowly make them extra-cost options. Aren't marketing folks fun?
Marketing professors call this "skimming the market". (Yes. They really call it that.). It is done in everything from cars to toasters.

OldCowboy
03-26-2014, 05:33 PM
I believe the part you're looking for is 710002353 Switch, Hood/Parking Brake. It is listed as costing $55.99 in the 2013 RT-S parts catalog.

Spacetrucker
03-27-2014, 12:43 AM
When you do buy the switch? Well you get the hole set up. But the dam switch come in blue and still fits in the dam parking brake side like the 10-13 had but blue? They say we do not have and orange lights just the blue kit. . Way to go BRP for laying to us on this switch setup. Really BRP Really..........pis poor.........found and used one to day on eBay for 10$$ and is orange. Not to replace it... Boy what a really mess up BRP has done.......Really BRP Really...

Bob Denman
03-27-2014, 07:34 AM
So; BRP...
Are you going to step up to the plate, and at least OFFER the accessory switch in Orange for us? :dontknow:

Magdave
03-27-2014, 10:27 AM
I got the dealer that sold me my fog lights to get an orange one to replace the blue one that came in the kit. I am waiting patiently for it. :thumbup:

Bob Denman
03-27-2014, 10:32 AM
That's cool! :thumbup:
But it shouldn't have to fall upon a dealer...
BRP should have TWO kits available:
Blue Switch
Orange Switch
:2thumbs:

Magdave
03-27-2014, 10:52 AM
That's cool! :thumbup:
But it shouldn't have to fall upon a dealer...
BRP should have TWO kits available:
Blue Switch
Orange Switch
:2thumbs:

:agree: One listed 2010-2012 (2012 has blue right?) and the other 2013-

Spyder_Cowgirl
03-27-2014, 12:16 PM
:agree: One listed 2010-2012 (2012 has blue right?) and the other 2013-

I believe the 2010 and 2011 are blue, the 2012 I know is orange because I had to have mine replaced. Seems like they went back to blue on the 2013.


Go figure! Ann

SpyRyd
03-27-2014, 12:20 PM
Purchased the optional frunk switch and specifically asked dealer to match the color of the other switches...you guessed it...got blue! Asked BRP why blue on the Can Am Facebook page...no response...yet.

Oh, forgot to mention, the blue light on the switch is very visible even in the bright sunlight.

BTW, went for a 124 mile ryde this morning...temps in the mid 30s...pulled in the garage and odometer registered 800 miles. Not too shabby for 7 days of ownership...love my 2014 RT-L.

Jim&Teresa
03-27-2014, 12:28 PM
Purchased the optional frunk switch and specifically asked dealer to match the color of the other switches...you guessed it...got blue! Asked BRP why blue on the Can Am Facebook page...no response...yet.

I loved that switch on my 2012 RT L and used it often (even matched all the others -- orange) LOL. I really don't know why they decided (other than someone NOT knowing what he/she was doing) to remove that frunk electric switch.....really a stupid move by BRP in my opinion.

Now that I have the 2014 RT L, I think I'm going to "live with it" and NOT install the dash frunk switch....it hurts me to say that! Thanks for letting me vent - I'm done talking about this and will move on................


Just would like to ask BRP -- "Why do you call it a limited?" It should include all bells and whistles and not remove items previously in earlier models, especially useful items -- why don't you talk with your customers on what's important or not. :banghead::banghead:

Magdave
03-27-2014, 02:30 PM
I believe the 2010 and 2011 are blue, the 2012 I know is orange because I had to have mine replaced. Seems like they went back to blue on the 2013.


Go figure! Ann

No they are orange like the 12 then, just the switch in the fog light kit was blue. :banghead: Guess they had a 50% chance of getting the right color.:dontknow:

bluestratos
03-27-2014, 02:41 PM
I am in the process of installing an aftermarket setup with a hidden remote switch. I just got the momentary switch so should have the new set up in shortly. Cost me less that $20 for very thing. I can open the trunk key on or key off this way.

Bob Denman
03-27-2014, 05:16 PM
:shocked: Now this sounds interesting... :thumbup:

Spacetrucker
03-27-2014, 10:34 PM
You need the 2013 switch and kit outher wise you Will get the Blue setup and now 13 are orange so make shure your dealer orders the right switch for you. The order unlock system by its self. Really ..

Bob Denman
03-28-2014, 06:54 AM
...So the $95 dollar kit, becomes the $150 kit; right? :gaah:

bluestratos
03-30-2014, 07:58 PM
Ok, trunk lock is installed and works great. The wires are tight against the trunk micro switch connector but it works great! 3 down

bluestratos
03-31-2014, 09:17 AM
Here is a picture of the frunk release. Nothing difficult about this at all, 2 bolts and 2 wires. No relays needed as it only pushes against the existing frunk lock arm

Bob Denman
03-31-2014, 10:44 AM
:clap: But where'd you hide your switch? :shocked:

bluestratos
03-31-2014, 12:21 PM
That's a secrete, lol.....But there are lots of places that will work:D

Bob Denman
03-31-2014, 01:52 PM
:D Gotcha! :thumbup: