BRP called me back today about my heat issues.

[3 Wheel Addict]

They called my dealer and then called me back. They are not going to do anything for me. The tech people from BRP told me that the heat is a normal thing with my model. I explained that having to cover the seat cracks with a towel is not normal and neither is the hot gas cap. They explained that the hot parts is normal because of the engine being right there by these components. I told them i'm ok for now because it's getting too cold for me to ride but if the heat is an issue next summer then it will go back to the dealer every day if needed till something gets fixed, they said that's fine. So, they either are not going to help us or they just bought some time to figure something out we will see which it is. To be continued...............

[Bob Denman]

Well now we need to ask; what are you wearing while riding the bike? :opps:
Keep in mind that they are 100% correct; there's a pair of BIG jugs & slugs down there, burning fuel...
Protective clothing will go a long way towards keeping you more comfortable in the saddle. :thumbup:

[ARtraveler]

Will be watching and waiting how this all pans out. I do not wish to add any more at this time to fan the flames about the heat issues.

[Chupaca]

not enough data to process...I'm sure they will continue working on it but things will be slowing down with those putting their machines away for the winter...:dontknow: We'll see...

[ivanlee]

They called my dealer and then called me back. They are not going to do anything for me. The tech people from BRP told me that the heat is a normal thing with my model. I explained that having to cover the seat cracks with a towel is not normal and neither is the hot gas cap. They explained that the hot parts is normal because of the engine being right there by these components. I told them i'm ok for now because it's getting too cold for me to ride but if the heat is an issue next summer then it will go back to the dealer every day if needed till something gets fixed, they said that's fine. So, they either are not going to help us or they just bought some time to figure something out we will see which it is. To be continued...............

I guess they win again, nothing in writing and they have short memories. :chill:

[3 Wheel Addict]

Well now we need to ask; what are you wearing while riding the bike? :opps:
Keep in mind that they are 100% correct; there's a pair of BIG jugs & slugs down there, burning fuel...
Protective clothing will go a long way towards keeping you more comfortable in the saddle. :thumbup:

A thong and a welders helmet... :yikes: I would have felt a lot better about this if they would have told me they are working on something instead of just blowing me off by telling me "that's how they are"! Sounds like they are just repeating what the dealer said.

[cuznjohn]

it's because there is nothing to do. they don't have a clue yet.

[Bob Denman]

A thong and a welders helmet... :yikes: I would have felt a lot better about this if they would have told me they are working on something instead of just blowing me off by telling me "that's how they are"! Sounds like they are just repeating what the dealer said.

:shocked: I'm not going to be able to shake that mental image for Months!! :shocked:

[anthony422]

my dealer wont do a thing unless BRP tells them to and BRP pays, but he does do a good job at sounding annoyed when I call. BRP is a joke they called me back and I got total lip service, part of the protocol is at one point they will ask you "What is it that you expect from BRP? like they read it off a card,,,, its pretty funny.... I said how about getting my machine right, Isnt that why i'm calling?

[cuznjohn]

get receipts every time you go to the dealer and report heat issues and 4 x's in ny and you call the attorney generals office and file a lemon law case. i go to the dealer tomorrow and will state about the heat issue

[MouthPiece]

I think it's time for me to take a break from Spyderlovers. Ya'll enjoy. I'm sure gonna.

Chris

[bullant12]

I think it's time for me to take a break from Spyderlovers. Ya'll enjoy. I'm sure gonna.

Chris

Hope to see you on the road! Honk when you pass by! (or just PM me for directions)
Just stay on your break so I can get more posts in than you!:roflblack::roflblack:

[rnet]

get receipts every time you go to the dealer and report heat issues and 4 x's in ny and you call the attorney generals office and file a lemon law case. i go to the dealer tomorrow and will state about the heat issueDon't believe the lemon law covers motorcycles in NY. :banghead:

[cuznjohn]

Don't believe the lemon law covers motorcycles in NY. :banghead:

http://www.ag.ny.gov/consumer-frauds/new-car-lemon-law-q%26a

[flamingobabe]

I'm really sorry to hear this....I plan to take the bike in this week......have to work around Mark's schedule and 325 miles to dealer......Bob....yes there is an engine between our legs...but there is no comparison between my 2009 and 2013 heat that blows on the rider....but this heat is not normal






They called my dealer and then called me back. They are not going to do anything for me. The tech people from BRP told me that the heat is a normal thing with my model. I explained that having to cover the seat cracks with a towel is not normal and neither is the hot gas cap. They explained that the hot parts is normal because of the engine being right there by these components. I told them i'm ok for now because it's getting too cold for me to ride but if the heat is an issue next summer then it will go back to the dealer every day if needed till something gets fixed, they said that's fine. So, they either are not going to help us or they just bought some time to figure something out we will see which it is. To be continued...............

[3 Wheel Addict]

I'm really sorry to hear this....I plan to take the bike in this week......have to work around Mark's schedule and 325 miles to dealer......Bob....yes there is an engine between our legs...but there is no comparison between my 2009 and 2013 heat that blows on the rider....but this heat is not normal

Thank you!! There are a few of us that get it, or have it and don't want it. Going to see my dealer tonight and quiz him on what BRP asked them.

[hotglue]

I think it's time for me to take a break from Spyderlovers. Ya'll enjoy. I'm sure gonna.

ChrisYa know that no one is holding a gun to your head to make you open and read this post, let alone post back on it.... it seems to me, you are dealing yourself your own grief.

[MidLifeCrisis]

Didn't flamingobabe get her heat issues successfully resolved by her dealer? I remember someone or two or more saying so, but don't recall who exactly. All I remember was it took some effort and cost....


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[flamingobabe]

NO....we have been working with BRP and 2 different dealers.....my bike is going back to shop...looks like 1st of next week....same heat...same non-fix

Didn't flamingobabe get her heat issues successfully resolved by her dealer? I remember someone or two or more saying so, but don't recall who exactly. All I remember was it took some effort and cost....


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[napper39]

this is what i had done,it might not work for you but has helped my 2013 rt with heat about 70%,the two bottom pans were removed and im talking about that round:chat: type pan that directs the heat out the top hole which i had coverd.like i say it helped a good deal,and the heat that is still there i can live with.and yes there are two plates that need taken off one is the bottom and the other is kind of round drectiong the hot air tordes the two holes that the fan blows out.:2thumbs:

[scarecrow]

Pic please

[johnwinslow]

http://www.ag.ny.gov/consumer-frauds/new-car-lemon-law-q%26a

Effective September 1, 2004, motorcycles are covered vehicles. Off-road vehicles, such as snowmobiles, are not covered by the law.

[OWISE1]

They called my dealer and then called me back. They are not going to do anything for me. The tech people from BRP told me that the heat is a normal thing with my model. I explained that having to cover the seat cracks with a towel is not normal and neither is the hot gas cap. They explained that the hot parts is normal because of the engine being right there by these components. I told them i'm ok for now because it's getting too cold for me to ride but if the heat is an issue next summer then it will go back to the dealer every day if needed till something gets fixed, they said that's fine. So, they either are not going to help us or they just bought some time to figure something out we will see which it is. To be continued...............

:dontknow: :dontknow: :banghead: :banghead:

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We got your BUDS report about two and a half weeks ago and along with others we've received, we're using it to research the issue deeper - I don't have a timetable for you at this point.

The customer service rep you spoke to - Rémy - was correct in that we'd be following up with you. As soon as I have any info I'll let you know immediately.

Thank you,



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[3 Wheel Addict]

:shocked: I'm not going to be able to shake that mental image for Months!! :shocked:

That will teach you... :clap::clap:

[Magdave]

That will teach you... :clap::clap:

That add a racing stripe to the thong:barf::roflblack:

[3 Wheel Addict]

:dontknow: :dontknow: :banghead: :banghead:

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Hello Mr Romaine,

We got your BUDS report about two and a half weeks ago and along with others we've received, we're using it to research the issue deeper - I don't have a timetable for you at this point.

The customer service rep you spoke to - Rémy - was correct in that we'd be following up with you. As soon as I have any info I'll let you know immediately.

Thank you,


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Do you know what your BUDS report showed?? I have a copy of mine here in front of me and it don't really say much and none of it talks about heat with the bike.

[SNOOPY]

I think it's time for me to take a break from Spyderlovers. Ya'll enjoy. I'm sure gonna.

Chris



See ya in a couple weeks, I take breaks from forums all the time. :roflblack:



I know some wish I took a break from this one. :yikes:

[cuznjohn]

Do you know what your BUDS report showed?? I have a copy of mine here in front of me and it don't really say much and none of it talks about heat with the bike.

steve told me by phone because he no longer wants to talk to me by e mail that my bike according to the buds report was running very hot but i don't have a copy of it

[Magdave]

steve told me by phone because he no longer wants to talk to me by e mail that my bike according to the buds report was running very hot but i don't have a copy of it

I imagine no emails since you used the secret password "lawyer".:yikes:

[OWISE1]

steve told me by phone because he no longer wants to talk to me by e mail that my bike according to the buds report was running very hot but i don't have a copy of it


John,

Ask the tech or service manger who did the Buds report to give you a copy.

[3 Wheel Addict]

steve told me by phone because he no longer wants to talk to me by e mail that my bike according to the buds report was running very hot but i don't have a copy of it

That could be a factor on your bike that mine or some don't have because mine does not run hot as far as engine temp goes. On my analog gauge it very seldom goes past half way and at half way the fan runs. Right now with temps in the 50's at speed i'm only at the first mark on the gauge and setting still it's half.

[OWISE1]

Do you know what your BUDS report showed?? I have a copy of mine here in front of me and it don't really say much and none of it talks about heat with the bike.

My tech told me that the BRP tech's have a way of reading the reports. I was told my :spyder2: was running hot and I was shifting at the correct rpm's.:dontknow:

[Magdave]

That could be a factor on your bike that mine or some don't have because mine does not run hot as far as engine temp goes. On my analog gauge it very seldom goes past half way and at half way the fan runs. Right now with temps in the 50's at speed i'm only at the first mark on the gauge and setting still it's half.
I have never seen 1 bar after I pull on to the main road even in 40 deg weather lowest I have seen is 4 bars mostly 5 (1/2 analog) and 6 sitting still for too long (fan kicks on).

[SNOOPY]

That could be a factor on your bike that mine or some don't have because mine does not run hot as far as engine temp goes. On my analog gauge it very seldom goes past half way and at half way the fan runs. Right now with temps in the 50's at speed i'm only at the first mark on the gauge and setting still it's half.


Do RT's have the same bar gauge as an ST ?

You say running at the first mark, I've never seen mine below 3 bars after warming up, and normally runs 4-5 bars.

Cooler in the 60's the other day and it stayed at 5 bars most of my ride....but didn't feel any heat on my legs or feet?

[SNOOPY]

I have never seen 1 bar after I pull on to the main road even in 40 deg weather lowest I have seen is 4 bars mostly 5 (1/2 analog) and 6 sitting still for too long (fan kicks on).



I was posting about the same thing at the same time. :roflblack:

[Magdave]

Do RT's have the same bar gauge as an ST ?

You say running at the first mark, I've never seen mine below 3 bars after warming up, and normally runs 4-5 bars.

Cooler in the 60's the other day and it stayed at 5 bars most of my ride....but didn't feel any heat on my legs or feet?
He was talking anlog we were talking IIOOIOIOOIIOIOIOOOIO

[Bob Denman]

The bikes that are running hot (and presumable lean...) do need some electronic relief; either a BRP re-flash, or an afternmarket fuel controller).
I certainly DO NOT mean to insult anybody with my questioning of a persons' riding gear; it's a valid qiesiton that unfortunately should be asked as part of trying to figure out what's going on...
Char,
I know you, Mark, your riding experience... and I've kept a careful watch for your reports.
You would be the LAST person on the Planet, that I would accuse of making a mountain out of a molehill... :opps:
The thing is; I don't know a thing about our latest person who has stepped up tot eh mike to complain...
So I assume nothing; I look at all avenues and all possibilities...

[SNOOPY]

He was talking anlog we were talking IIOOIOIOOIIOIOIOOOIO

Do the RT's have 2 types of temp gauge? Or is this a separate gauge he uses?

[Magdave]

Do the RT's have 2 types of temp gauge? Or is this a separate gauge he uses?
Plain RTs only have the digital LCD gauges. RTS & RTL have 2 analog gauges in the outer holes that a lot of people unplug ( which reverts them back to LCD digital) because they are so bouncy and inaccurate. They are pretty useless. but look good:thumbup:

[SNOOPY]

Plain RTs only have the digital LCD gauges. RTS & RTL have 2 analog gauges in the outer holes that a lot of people unplug ( which reverts them back to LCD digital) because they are so bouncy and inaccurate. They are pretty useless. but look good:thumbup:


Gotcha thanks, this makes more sense now.







So maybe RT owners only glance at their analog temp gauge when it has bounced up and think their bikes are running hot? lol


hiding now....

[cuznjohn]

The bikes that are running hot (and presumable lean...) do need some electronic relief; either a BRP re-flash, or an afternmarket fuel controller).
I certainly DO NOT mean to insult anybody with my questioning of a persons' riding gear; it's a valid qiesiton that unfortunately should be asked as part of trying to figure out what's going on...
Char,
I know you, Mark, your riding experience... and I've kept a careful watch for your reports.
You would be the LAST person on the Planet, that I would accuse of making a mountain out of a molehill... :opps:
The thing is; I don't know a thing about our latest person who has stepped up tot eh mike to complain...
So I assume nothing; I look at all avenues and all possibilities...

i ware jeans and work boots, my but has really only got hot after the recall for some reason, i don't remember feeling it b4 on the seat even with the high temp readings i was getting but now i do. i ware jeans because of my size, i tried leather once and two farmers with milking stools and pails were following me and one guy wearing a boa around his neck :(

[flaggerphil]

Plain RTs only have the digital LCD gauges. RTS & RTL have 2 analog gauges in the outer holes that a lot of people unplug ( which reverts them back to LCD digital) because they are so bouncy and inaccurate. They are pretty useless. but look good:thumbup:

Actually, my analog fuel and temp gauges work pretty darn well. Had my original fuel gauge replaced and the bouncing went away.

[flaggerphil]

Not to derail the thread, but the people who used to complain bitterly about the excess heat in 2010 to 2012 RTs (which, fortunately, my RT never had) seem to have quieted down since the 2013s came out.

Or so it seems...

:dontknow:

[Magdave]

Not to derail the thread, but the people who used to complain bitterly about the excess heat in 2010 to 2012 RTs (which, fortunately, my RT never had) seem to have quieted down since the 2013s came out.

Or so it seems...

:dontknow:

That is because it was normal as BRP has told them. Your going to get heat from the radiator period. They also had doable after market solutions that the 13 owners do not have and none of them caught on fire or had melted parts because of the heat. 2012 can count themselves lucky and now they know it compared to the 2013's

[rc51ny]

I'm not sure this means anything---but---on my 2012 RT--I removed both the large plastic panels under the engine. One (left side) to assist in oil changes, and the other (right side) I just left off when I install the NBV highway pegs. While I never really had a huge heat issue with the machine, removing those plastic panels made a HUGE difference. Now when i ride, the temp gauge never goes past the quarter mark. I don't know if the 2013's have those panels, but in my opinion they are useless--try removing them and see what happens.

[CyncySpyder]

my but has really only got hot after the recall for some reason, i don't remember feeling it b4 on the seat even with the high temp readings i was getting but now i do:(

I'm NOT saying this IS the case or not, just relaying my own personal experience that would seem related, in an effort to help others to understand what may be going on here.

Back in the summer, Teddy & I were on a ryde & got down to empty of the fuel gauge & just barely made it to the fuel station. It was about 87F degrees out & when I went to open the (New/Updated) fuel cap on Teds Red Sled (2011 SpyderFest Eddition RT-S) it wouldn't open, it would just spin & click in either direction. After 10 minutes of struggling, I was about to give up & it suddenly grabbed and allowed me to remove it.

At the time, I was thinking about all the threads about heat problems and boiling gas and figured that must have been our issue. Later I was enlightened that the Spyders Fuel System is vented, so it couldn't have really been a pressure issue like I originally thought, more along the lines of a sticking fuel-cap than anything most probably.

Anyways, to the subject at hand, I figured I'd be pro-active and take a page from BRPs Band-Aid drawer and ordered some of the Heat-Reflective material like they are using to protect the melting parts on some of the 2013s. I got it & promptly installed it all around the fuel tank, in the hopes of stopping the tank & fuel from absorbing so much heat.

Mind you now, I've never really had issues or complaints about 'Boiling Gas' or 'Extreme Fumes' after a ryde, but this was more a proactive approach that I figured couldn't hurt, cause at the time, I was thinking with my fuel being so low, whatever was in their was surely boiling, and that was causing my issue of not being able to release the fuel cap, which I now know was an incorrect assumption :lecturef_smilie:

I'm Happy to report, my project worked just as planned, and I now know that my fuel tank and subsequent fuel are not absorbing nearly as much heat as before. How do I know this? Cause now, like you, we also have a heated seat :shocked: And it makes total sense. If the heat can no longer be absorbed by the tank and fuel, well then its got to go somewhere else and we all know that heat rises and the only other place to go is to the seat :opps:

Unintended Consequence at its best, and you know what, right now, since we're getting into the winter ryding season for us, I'm Loving it :clap:Luckily for us, when it warms up and a heated seat isn't so desired, we've got that covered as well, with having our home-made forced air system, with the flip of a button, within one minute, we're back to ambient outside temps ;)

If I were a bet'n man, I'd say this is what your experiencing as well :rolleyes:

[RBS66]

QUOTE CUZNJOHN. my but has really only got hot after the recall for some reason, i don't remember feeling it b4 on the seat even with the high temp readings i was getting but now i do.

I had my recall done at my 600 mile service. After that is when I noticed the heat at the glovebox area also. I thought it was just me cause I had only rode 600 miles at that point and didn't notice it before that. I also said to my wife the other day that is when I noticed the heat. My bike is not real hot at my feet. Its the top of the bike after a short ride the backbone of the bike under the seat is so hot you can't touch it. On a little longer ride you can hear the gas boiling when you park it.

[3 Wheel Addict]

In a nutshell yes. I don't seem to have the hot engine temps that some have but the boiling fuel and extremely hot gas tank and cap. As far as the engine goes I think it runs great and does not get any hotter than any other bike I have owned in the past. I have no issues with heat blowing out the right side, I know there is a radiator there and it's sole job is to expel heat. My concerns are the extremely hot gas tank and cap, the thigh roasting heat coming out of the cracks around the front of the seat and the plastic panels getting to well over 110 degrees. Not to mention everything being cooked by the heat. When I first started complaining about the heat even some of the people I ride with thought I was nuts till we stopped for fuel one day and I had a friend remove my fuel cap. He thought that was just nuts that the company would allow that to happen, his wife bought me this tool to help with fill ups as a joke and now it's the current riding joke.

[NancysToy]

Heat from the radiator discharge is normal, 150 degree gas caps are not, in my opinion. It is fascinating that there could be a policy that allows producing a product with serious deficiencies, which is not up to the standards of the previous products or the industry, then trying to pawn it off as "normal". On the other hand, when approaching BRP with this problem owners need to be very specific about the heat source and perception. Saying "My right foot gets hot" is not going to go too far, Showing a photo of a thermometer reading 160 at the gas cap and complaining (possibly to the NHTSA) about boiling fuel would be another story. That type of problem should be addressed. It is not "normal".....no matter how "common" it is for the 2013's

[Bob Denman]

:agree: Thank you... :clap:

[OWISE1]

Heat from the radiator discharge is normal, 150 degree gas caps are not, in my opinion. It is fascinating that there could be a policy that allows producing a product with serious deficiencies, which is not up to the standards of the previous products or the industry, then trying to pawn it off as "normal". On the other hand, when approaching BRP with this problem owners need to be very specific about the heat source and perception. Saying "My right foot gets hot" is not going to go too far, Showing a photo of a thermometer reading 160 at the gas cap and complaining (possibly to the NHTSA) about boiling fuel would be another story. That type of problem should be addressed. It is not "normal".....no matter how "common" it is for the 2013's


I did file a NHTSA complaint about all of the above. So far NO RESPONSE...:gaah:

[SpyderAnn01]

I did file a NHTSA complaint about all of the above. So far NO RESPONSE...:gaah:

Are you looking for a response from NHTSA? I never got a reply on my complaint.

[Sny]

I received a message from ____ at BRP saying he's working on a fix for the heat issues on 2013's and they're looking for people to test it. I didn't fit their needs (I live too far north/cold) so I gave him some recommendations from SpyderLovers.

I trust this individual and I believe they are working on it. I'm not sure when or how or exactly what BRP is going to do for the 2013 owners, but I do know it won't be "nothing".

It's enough for me to build some more patience. Hopefully by spring we'll talk about it like we do the DPS problems of the "original Spyder" :)

[Bob Denman]

It's good to hear something a bit more tangible! :2thumbs: :clap: :thumbup:

[bscrive]

I think CyncySpyder has nailed it. Now that you don't have the gas tank to absorb the heat, it is coming out the cracks where the heat can escape. I think he is also right on about hooking up a forced air system. I was looking at a couple of fans that could be hooked up and force the air down onto the ground. You would remove the bottom pans and find a spot where the fans could go. One on each side would be more than sufficient. I don't have access to a RT or ST but I am sure someone out there could run with this. Here is the type of fan I am talking about.

78694

[Bob Denman]

Just how big is that fan? :dontknow:

[flamingobabe]

I received a message from ____ at BRP saying he's working on a fix for the heat issues on 2013's and they're looking for people to test it. I didn't fit their needs (I live too far north/cold) so I gave him some recommendations from SpyderLovers.

I trust this individual and I believe they are working on it. I'm not sure when or how or exactly what BRP is going to do for the 2013 owners, but I do know it won't be "nothing".

It's enough for me to build some more patience. Hopefully by spring we'll talk about it like we do the DPS problems of the "original Spyder" :)

I hope you gave them my name.....I can't get a hold of my case worker....they are busy

[jerpinoy]

Heat issue differ from different people. How hot is too hot? Is it too hot that will cook your fertile eggs and not able to multiply?nojoke

BRP are right that two jugs between our legs will get hot is normal.:roflblack::roflblack:

Everybody have different tolerance how much heat is comfortably normal.

[Bob Denman]

A couple of folks (CuznJohn is one of them...) mentioned that he noticed a change in the amount of heat after the bike was serviced... (Perhaps even hoooked up to BUDS...)
If somebody notices a difference in the amount of heat that they're getting from the bike; something has to have changed... :gaah:

[3 Wheel Addict]

I think CyncySpyder has nailed it. Now that you don't have the gas tank to absorb the heat, it is coming out the cracks where the heat can escape. I think he is also right on about hooking up a forced air system. I was looking at a couple of fans that could be hooked up and force the air down onto the ground. You would remove the bottom pans and find a spot where the fans could go. One on each side would be more than sufficient. I don't have access to a RT or ST but I am sure someone out there could run with this. Here is the type of fan I am talking about.

78694

That looks like the perfect size to add behind the oil cooler to help with heat, what is that fan from??

[OldCowboy]

I'm not sure this means anything---but---on my 2012 RT--I removed both the large plastic panels under the engine. One (left side) to assist in oil changes, and the other (right side) I just left off when I install the NBV highway pegs. While I never really had a huge heat issue with the machine, removing those plastic panels made a HUGE difference. Now when i ride, the temp gauge never goes past the quarter mark. I don't know if the 2013's have those panels, but in my opinion they are useless--try removing them and see what happens.

The issue with removing the 2013 RT's right hand underpanel is that there is a large electrical connector that will then be exposed to road spray. I resolved that issue by attaching a small aluminum shield (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?58777-Heat-Issues-I-Ain-t-Got-No-Steenkin-Heat-Issues!).

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Do you have any pictures of that shield?? :thumbup:

[Mets79ST2013]

That add a racing stripe to the thong:barf::roflblack:

Heat issues there is not heat issues drive it at 20 bellow you will not feel anything, or as the BRP tech that call me said "your dealer use the bike for 10 minutes on Friday and the tem. outside was 40 he did not feel anything....ok so we should not ride our bike in the summer let's change our season to the winter or you can only ride if the temp. outside is below 40....jerks....:banghead::banghead::banghead::bang head::banghead::banghead::banghead:

[3 Wheel Addict]

Heat issues there is not heat issues drive it at 20 bellow you will not feel anything, or as the BRP tech that call me said "your dealer use the bike for 10 minutes on Friday and the tem. outside was 40 he did not feel anything....ok so we should not ride our bike in the summer let's change our season to the winter or you can only ride if the temp. outside is below 40....jerks....:banghead::banghead::banghead::bang head::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Exactly! Back when I was riding snowmobiles I would have loved to get that heat on me. However riding my bike in the summer... not so much. My heat is not so much of an issue now with temps in the low 50's not to mention that I did not even get the bike till September and that's not exactly hot then either. I worry about this summer but it does appear that there is a fix coming BUT who is going to get that fix?, everybody with a 13 or just the complainers (yes I am one).

[Phil]

That looks like the perfect size to add behind the oil cooler to help with heat, what is that fan from??

I added a fan about 1 year ago. I can't find the post, so I'll be adding it to My Mods, Phil's Mods here in a little but. It worked well through the summer.

EDIT- Here are the pics-
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?24907-Phil-s-Mods&p=717172&viewfull=1#post717172 (Post #209 in Phil's Mods).

[OldCowboy]

:shocked: Do you have any pictures of that shield?? :thumbup:

Right here: small aluminum shield (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?58777-Heat-Issues-I-Ain-t-Got-No-Steenkin-Heat-Issues%21)

[bscrive]

Just how big is that fan? :dontknow:

Bob, the fan is 4". I found it on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/spal-fan-4-water-proof-p-n-va32-a101-62s-12vdc-pusher-/171135441497?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27d8779a59&vxp=mtr

[flaggerphil]

That is because it was normal as BRP has told them.

Well, that's not what those people thought at the time. And I distinctly recall reading about at least two RS's that burned to the ground before the 2013's came out.

Bear in mind, I'm NOT saying some people don't have heat problems in the 2013's.

[flaggerphil]

I did file a NHTSA complaint about all of the above. So far NO RESPONSE...:gaah:

I doubt you're going to get a response from them...that's not how they work.

[Questions]

There are a lot of Spyders just heading into SUMMER !!!!!!!!!

[SNOOPY]

There are a lot of Spyders just heading into SUMMER !!!!!!!!!



:clap:

[rc51ny]

Right here: small aluminum shield (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?58777-Heat-Issues-I-Ain-t-Got-No-Steenkin-Heat-Issues%21)
Looks good and it sounds like it helped you with your heat issue

[Bob Denman]

:agree: some creative use of electricity could be the game-changer! :thumbup:

[Jeriatric]

Don't want to hijack your thread and speaking for myself. Constantly hearing the radiator heat is NORMAL crowd defend a design flaw gets really OLD. :banghead:
Radiator heat is normal. Agree.

That said, the placement and or venting of the radiator on pre 14's was a design flaw. The further south and west one lives and rides, the more obvious the flaw is. Just the facts.

One sure fire way to diminish years of complaints is to produce something worse. Done!

[Dan McNally]

Heat issue differ from different people. How hot is too hot? Is it too hot that will cook your fertile eggs and not able to multiply?nojoke

BRP are right that two jugs between our legs will get hot is normal.:roflblack::roflblack:

Everybody have different tolerance how much heat is comfortably normal.

I doubt anyone who rides will argue against the fact that motors get hot and we are sitting on top of them . . . but that isn't the issue. The issue is, simply put, that hot air is not being properly vented and building up inside the Tupperware on some 2013s. The proof of this is that parts are melting. This is not normal, but evidence of a serious issue . . . either a mechanical design flaw or a flaw in the computer programming. Most likely, it is a combination. Forcing ambient air into the area that is remaining hot will reduce the heat . . . simple physics . . . tweaking the computer may also do so, but I have no proof that is the problem, so it is just conjecture, at this point. I suspect the final solution will be a combination of additional ventilation, either from some sort of ram scoop or from a fan, wrapping of pipes, and tweaking of the computer for the Spyders experiencing the issue.

[Magdave]

There are a lot of Spyders just heading into SUMMER !!!!!!!!!

Keep us posted from down under and have a safe,fun summer.:clap:

[Sny]

I hope you gave them my name.....I can't get a hold of my case worker....they are busy
Of course I did :)

I'm not expecting to hear much from here until spring unless I go out of my way to bug him directly again :)

[3 Wheel Addict]

I received a message from ____ at BRP saying he's working on a fix for the heat issues on 2013's and they're looking for people to test it. I didn't fit their needs (I live too far north/cold) so I gave him some recommendations from SpyderLovers.

I trust this individual and I believe they are working on it. I'm not sure when or how or exactly what BRP is going to do for the 2013 owners, but I do know it won't be "nothing".

It's enough for me to build some more patience. Hopefully by spring we'll talk about it like we do the DPS problems of the "original Spyder" :)

What you post this little tid-bit of info on a possible fix and then leave us hanging? Did they tell you what it was? Was it an injection or in pill form... no just kidding, but seriously just a hint. :pray::pray::pray: