Lamonster Garage Laser Alignment

[Lamonster]

New info and link -->Click Here (http://lamonstergarage.com/tech-videos-2/laser-alignment.html)

I just did my first laser alignments and much to my surprise my alinement was off quite a bit when lined up with the rear wheel. I had done the alinement when I first got the ST to BRP specs off the frame but off the frame only means it's square with the frame not the rear wheel so the contact patch is not the same. Now I have 1.25" of toe in at 148". Before the laser alignments my right side was toed out 1.25" in 74" and the left was toed out .250" in 74".

I'm happy with the end results and I'm now able to offer this service to any other Spyder owner in the area. You can drop me a note at SpyderSupport@gmail.com if you would like more details or shoot me a PM or call 423-552-0278

The cost is $120.00 and that includes zeroing out the steering angle sensor and torque sensor.
:doorag:

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Left side needed .250 adjustment

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Right side needed 1.25" adjustment.
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[MarkLawson]

Lamont, does that include rear belt adjustment if needed?

[Lamonster]

The first thing to check is that your belt is running true and tracking right. The alignments is based off of the rear wheel. The price I posted is assuming I don't have to spend time on the rear and if you have Gloryders they need to be pulled off or I have to charge a little more for that.

[doublenaughtspy]

How long did the procedure take?

[Lamonster]

How long did the procedure take?
Took me about an hour but it was my first one.

[Lamonster]

Just did quickster47 (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/member.php?10282-quickster47) 2013 ST. The left side was out 2" and the right side was out 5/8". He took it for a ride and noticed that the fight he had in left turns was gone and that it tracks better now. I can tell you his tires will last longer for sure. :doorag:
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[quickster47]

I was up a 5:00 am CDT and pumped about getting my new ST-S Laser Aligned. Out of the driveway at 5:45 am. The 145 mile drive went by quickly. Traffic was not that bad and a quick stop for gas before arriving put me at Lamonster's Garage about 9:45 am EDT.

It is always good to visit Lamont's place. He is a real gentleman and a great host. No biscuit and sausage gravy this morning or no left over BBQ but I really didn't need it anyway. LoL

What an amazing difference getting my RoLo Lamonster Laser Alignment. I actually didn't think it was that bad, sort of. I mean, it did got pretty straight down the road but there has been since day 1 a slight struggle with left turns. But after Lamonster worked his magic, the difference is night and day. Smoother in the turns - no fighting, tracks better on the highway, and just feels better when you are driving it anywhere. My hats off to Lamont for a superb service he now offers.

And this man actually cares about making your Spyder drive straight and true. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Carl

[Lamonster]

This is my old RT that I've done alignments on and with the laser to the rear wheel instead of the frame it was 1.5" toed out on one side and 3/4" toed in on the other. She's going down the road like an arrow now. :doorag:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=76968&d=1380664729

[Lamonster]

Mike drove 250 miles from Kentucky to have his Spyder laser alined. This was a strange one. The steering angle sensor was 3.6 degrees out before we did anything. He had wear on the outside of both front tires. He has new tires now so I checked toe and he had too much toe but it was perfect on both sides. I took out 1/2" of toe and adjusted his shocks to take out some of the preload. His numbers are dead on perfect now so his tires should wear even.


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[Lamonster]

Just did my buddy StanProff (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/member.php?7524-StanProff) 2010 RT and it was pretty far off. The right side was 1.750" toed out and the left side was 1.25" toed in. After a test drive he noticed it no longer pulled to the left when he let go of the bars.

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[MouthPiece]

Lamont, I'm absolutely convnced that every spyder should have this laser alignment done. Although it won't be a "cure all" for everyone's problem, it certainly will eliminate that, the alignment, as being at least one of the issues.

What are your thoughts please?

Chris

[Lamonster]

Lamont, I'm absolutely convnced that every spyder should have this laser alignment done. Although it won't be a "cure all" for everyone's problem, it certainly will eliminate that, the alignment, as being at least one of the issues.

What are your thoughts please?

Chris
Of course I'm trying to make a buck on this but I think pretty much every Spyder should be checked for sure. Like you said it may not be the cure all but at least you'll know your alignments is right and you can go from there. You should get better tire life and better fuel economy too but I can say that for sure yet.

I'm just happy that when I show the customer what we did he can see for himself how far out it was and so far everyone says they can tell a difference when they take it out for the first time with all the wheels alined with each other. :doorag:

[Lamonster]

This 2013 was toed out 1" in 74". It's good to go now.

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[StanProff]

Just did my buddy StanProff (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/member.php?7524-StanProff) 2010 RT and it was pretty far off. The right side was 1.750" toed out and the left side was 1.25" toed in. After a test drive he noticed it no longer pulled to the left when he let go of the bars.

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Lamont, as you said, no more pull to the left. I posted a thread on the outcome after the ride home with more results of the alignment. 75 mph, no hands on grips, streight as an arrow with no drifting, no twitching on center line or anything. This 2010 in now rock solid and handles better than ever. Thank you for a job well done!
Stan

[Lamonster]

Vickie Trumbetic (https://www.facebook.com/vtrumbetic?directed_target_id=0) stopped by on her way to FL to get her alignment done. Both wheels were toed out about 3/4"






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[Lamonster]

Just did Rod's 2012 RT. It was about 1.5" toed out along with some other issues. I had BajaRon install a swaybar on Rod's RT while I aligned Ron's 2008 GS. It was way off too. Both should be happy now. — with Rod Myers (https://www.facebook.com/rod.myers3?viewer_id=100000998428316).


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[RodMyers]

Just did Rod's 2012 RT. It was about 1.5" toed out along with some other issues. I had BajaRon install a swaybar on Rod's RT while I aligned Ron's 2008 GS. It was way off too. Both should be happy now. — with Rod Myers (https://www.facebook.com/rod.myers3?viewer_id=100000998428316).


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Between Lamonster adjusting the front end, also had the Baja Ron sway bar installed. Went for a short test drive around their neighborhood. A world of difference.

Now, I just got it back from the dealer last week, so I "assumed" my tire pressures were good. Bzzzt. Lamonster and Baja Rons tire gauges noted 'zero' pressure in the front tires. My bad.

Tires inflated, newly aligned, and new sway bar installed. I took the same back roads that felt comfortable @ 20mph, and was doing the speed limit (or so).. Felt a lot smoother than going inbound.

Freeway driving was a dream as compared to before.

2 things I learned. Always check your own tire pressure, and park the rt in neutral

Thanks to Ron and Lamonster



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[BajaRon]

Between Lamonster adjusting the front end, also had the Baja Ron sway bar installed. Went for a short test drive around their neighborhood. A world of difference.

Now, I just got it back from the dealer last week, so I "assumed" my tire pressures were good. Bzzzt. Lamonster and Baja Rons tire gauges noted 'zero' pressure in the front tires. My bad.

Tires inflated, newly aligned, and new sway bar installed. I took the same back roads that felt comfortable @ 20mph, and was doing the speed limit (or so).. Felt a lot smoother than going inbound.

Freeway driving was a dream as compared to before.

2 things I learned. Always check your own tire pressure, and park the rt in neutral

Thanks to Ron and Lamonster



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It was great working on your Spyder Rod. You were a good sport about all of Lamont's banter (which I NEVER get involved in!)

Tire pressure was not actually ZERO. It think you had around 10 psi in one front tire and the gauge Lamont was using didn't register that low.

But suffice to say, low tire pressures can contribute to steering/handling issues.

Did Lamont charge you by the CF or by the PSI for that air? :roflblack:

[Rando]

Does BRP now have their own laser alignment system? In other words, what type of alignments are BRP techs doing?

[Lamonster]

Does BRP now have their own laser alignment system? In other words, what type of alignments are BRP techs doing?

Yes

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[Spacetrucker]

Really??

[Lamonster]

Just installed a swaybar and did an alignment on Phil's (pwm (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/member.php?12749-pwm)) 2012 RT and his alignment was pretty far off and I love that because I knew he was going to be happy with the results and he was.

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[pwm]

Thanks Lamonster. I did not realize how much I was fighting it before.

[Lamonster]

Phil was so happy with his alignment yesterday that be brought his friend Joe over today. Like Phil he didn't think he had a problem but his was worst than Phil's. He's now very happy with the way his Spyder handles.:doorag:

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[pwm]

Joe was very happy. He took me on some back roads I had never seen on the way home. Beautiful day for riding.

[Lamonster]

Did two more alignments today, one on John's 2013 ST and one on Matthew's 2010 RS. Both were out and both reported back that their Spyder handles better than ever now. If I do a few more of these I might get good at them. ;):doorag:

John's 2013 ST
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Matthew's 2010 RS
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[JKMSPYDER]

Thanks Lamont! The alignment was spot on and thanks for installing the highway pegs, too. Looking forward to seeing you again at Spyderfest next year!

John Mattox

[Lamonster]

Just got Stan's 2008 GS back in shape. He had a left tire that was real bad and the alignment said the same thing.:doorag:

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[3 Wheel Addict]

If the factory does a laser alignment then why are they all off by so much?? You also mention the "steering angle sensor" needing reset, the BUDS report that I have for my 13 RT/S has that sensor at 6.25 is that way off?? I'm curious about all this as I have complained about my bike feeling "twitchy" since day one.

[Lamonster]

If the factory does a laser alignment then why are they all off by so much?? You also mention the "steering angle sensor" needing reset, the BUDS report that I have for my 13 RT/S has that sensor at 6.25 is that way off?? I'm curious about all this as I have complained about my bike feeling "twitchy" since day one.

You should be in limp mode if you are that far off. I hope they reset it when they showed you that. :yikes:

I have no idea why they are so far off. I can say that because we are taking our readings from 148" that makes it look worst than it is in so cases. If you're a 1"+ off that is bad and the fact that most of these are crabbing going down the road is not good either.

[3 Wheel Addict]

You should be in limp mode if you are that far off. I hope they reset it when they showed you that. :yikes:

I have no idea why they are so far off. I can say that because we are taking our readings from 148" that makes it look worst than it is in so cases. If you're a 1"+ off that is bad and the fact that most of these are crabbing going down the road is not good either.

That is the last report I seen from them and I don't know if they reset it or not? However I have not been in "limp home mode" ever. I'm still having handling issues and now it look like they are saying my shocks are the issue and there was a bulletin on them. I have the Ron bar installed and that is quite an impressive upgrade, now i'm thinking Elkas but on their web site they don't have any listed for the 13's, I'm going to have to call them I guess....

[spyderbirds]

If the factory does a laser alignment then why are they all off by so much?? You also mention the "steering angle sensor" needing reset, the BUDS report that I have for my 13 RT/S has that sensor at 6.25 is that way off?? I'm curious about all this as I have complained about my bike feeling "twitchy" since day one.

The steering angle sensor value you see on the BUDS report is just a static value of where the steering is setting at the moment the report is generated. This may or may not be the position the alignment was done.

I just tested this by running a report with my steering angle set at (eyeball) straight ahead. It showed me at -.25 steering angle.

I then moved my bars quite a bit off straight ahead and re generated the BUDS report and it showed my steering angle as 13.5

That explains why you are not in limp mode with the 6.25 angle reading, the report was just generated with your bars cocked to one side.

The best way to see where you are at is get your bars straight to the eye and then check steering angle with Buds and then check with laser again.

Ryde Straight and True with...

[Silvervette05]

I will have to make a appointment and get that done.

[Lamonster]

The steering angle sensor value you see on the BUDS report is just a static value of where the steering is setting at the moment the report is generated. This may or may not be the position the alignment was done.

I just tested this by running a report with my steering angle set at (eyeball) straight ahead. It showed me at -.25 steering angle.

I then moved my bars quite a bit off straight ahead and re generated the BUDS report and it showed my steering angle as 13.5

That explains why you are not in limp mode with the 6.25 angle reading, the report was just generated with your bars cocked to one side.

The best way to see where you are at is get your bars straight to the eye and then check steering angle with Buds and then check with laser again.

Ryde Straight and True with...

I was assuming the bars were straight to start with, no reason to check the steering angle if they're not.

[Lamonster]

I will have to make a appointment and get that done.

I've been doing them on the weekends too if that works for you. :doorag:

[Lamonster]

Aligned Charlotte's 2012 RSS today and just got a report back that it handled real good on the way home. That's always good to hear.

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[billpowell]

Hi Lamont, I purchased the Spyder decals from you for the front and back of my wife's 2013, the front lasted about 2,000 miles and now is gone, do you have a replacement. I followed your video to the letter, but away it went, just a circle left up front.

Thanks, Bill Powell 904-891-6858 341 Summerset Dr Jacksonville, FL 32259

[Lamonster]

Hi Lamont, I purchased the Spyder decals from you for the front and back of my wife's 2013, the front lasted about 2,000 miles and now is gone, do you have a replacement. I followed your video to the letter, but away it went, just a circle left up front.

Thanks, Bill Powell 904-891-6858 341 Summerset Dr Jacksonville, FL 32259

Not the best way to contact me. Send me a PM or email spydersupport@gmail.com

[charles4690]

Has there been anymore discussion about Lamonster coming to the Northern Va. area to do a group alignment.

[Lamonster]

Has there been anymore discussion about Lamonster coming to the Northern Va. area to do a group alignment.

I think it's a go :thumbup::doorag:

[charles4690]

I would like to have any available info on the alignment in the northern Va. area. Thank you

[SpyRyd]

I would like to have any available info on the alignment in the northern Va. area. Thank you

Charles I'll send you a PM. In the mean time go to the Virginia forum and open the post about Laser alignments in Virginia.

[Questions]

Does anyone knows where I can get the alignment done in Alberta Canada? Thank you.

[Dan McNally]

And the Northern Virginia "Polar Bear Laser Alignment Party" is in the history books! :yes:81840

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[wa3wheels]

Who to contact to schedule appointment at SpyderFest, We will arrive most likely on the 28th.KOA.

[Lamonster]

Who to contact to schedule appointment at SpyderFest, We will arrive most likely on the 28th.KOA.

SpyderPops will have a crew there working the show. I think he said there will be three teams working together.

[Lamonster]

Waiting for the last guy to show for an alignment but we did 3 alignments, two swaybars and one set if NBV's on 2014 RTS. Great day hanging out with fellow Spyderlovers 😎
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[ARtraveler]

Looks like one of those places where "Everybody knows your name." :yes::yes::yes:

[Lamonster]

Last one done. :doorag:

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[SpyRyd]

Were any of the 14s in "perfect" alignment, or did you need to make adjustments on all of them? Looks like a good gaggle of Spyder Ryders...all from Virginia?

[Lamonster]

Were any of the 14s in "perfect" alignment, or did you need to make adjustments on all of them? Looks like a good gaggle of Spyder Ryders...all from Virginia?

Nope they were out about the same. After alignment they both noticed a improvement.

[Dan McNally]

Not one Firstgear Thermo Suit in sight . . . are you sure they were from Virginia? :roflblack:

[BajaRon]

It got to about 80 degrees here today. Enjoyed all the friendly faces and good time wrenching on Spyders. It just doesn't get much better than this. A Micro-Miny SpyderFest! (Unauthorized, of course)

[vt228]

hello my friend long time not on lol


have been in out of hospital doing better miss u all looking for seat for my 2008 sm5 still ryding hope all are well Don

[jc0808]

Any reference on laser alignment in the mid atlantic region? VA, MD, NC?

Jc

[Gray Ghost]

Any reference on laser alignment in the mid atlantic region? VA, MD, NC?

Jc

There is a list of independents who travel and do alignments, you can watch for them to be in your area (I was in Virginia this summer) http://www.spydercomfort.com/independant%20dealers.htm.

Regular dealers in the areas you mentioned:
Maryland
Moto Sports Cycle, Hanover, PA . 717-632-7093 ( ask for Ryan), they are only 4 miles from Maryland border

North Carolina
1. Matthews Fun Machines, Matthews, NC . (704) 847-8454 (ask for Jack)
2. Honda of Winston Salem, Winston Salem, NC. 336-765-0330 (ask for Kevin)
3. Brewer Cycles, Henderson, NC. 800-948-3480 (ask for Brian Cash)
4. Schronce Powersports, Taylorsville, NC. 828-632-3147 (ask for Josh)

[Orange Spyder Man]

anyone near New Orleans doing laser alignment or next close location ? I would like to get my 2014 RT checked... 10-16-14 ... I find my spyder wanders quiet a bit.. especially on turns ..

[sduskin]

I can guarantee 2. :)

Interested?

[doug1950]

Would like to have my 2012 align ,Where can one go in the Knoxville Tn. area ??????????:banghead:

[GunDoctor]

California?

[Highwayman2013]

Try this:http://www.spydercomfort.com/dealers.htm