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Cruzr Joe
08-04-2013, 01:56 PM
We went to Tunica Mississippi on Friday 8/2/2013, we went for the Casinos, when we entered Mississippi we encountered motorcycles everywhere. Turns out we wound up right in the middle of "National Bikers Roundup", there were beautiful bikes everywhere. It soon became obvious that this was a rally geared toward black american bikers, and as one of the very very few "White Boys" in the Crowd we kind of stood out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, But that was really cool because we had one of the few Spyders there also, we garnered a lot of interest and met some really cool people who were there for the same reason that we go to Spyderfest, Spyderquest, Owners events, Lamonts Great BBQ and other events. the literature said that they hoped for 20,000 bikes, whether they reached that number or not i have no idea, but they were a lot of fun and we had a blast. They had groups from all over the United States. I just want to put out a shout to all of them, they were fantastic people.

Cruzr Joe

Chupaca
08-04-2013, 02:14 PM
sounds like a really nice experience. Glad you were passing by at the right time..:clap:

Magdave
08-04-2013, 04:15 PM
We have 2 rallies in late May here in Myrtle Beach. 1st is Harley (and everyone else) followed the next week by BBW (Black Bike Week) at Atlantic Beach. It is a small historically black town between Myrtle and N. Myrtle Beach. You really do not want to be around here for that there are a lot of problems that have occurred during that week. Nothing against them but they act like idiots riding wheelies on the main highways throwing garbage everywhere and carrying their ladies on back wearing thongs. Public nudity and worse happen too :yikes:

ARtraveler
08-04-2013, 04:28 PM
Lot's of biker groups around these days. We have never encountered any that we didn't like. :thumbup:

Cruzr Joe
08-04-2013, 04:29 PM
We have 2 rallies in late May here in Myrtle Beach. 1st is Harley (and everyone else) followed the next week by BBW (Black Bike Week) at Atlantic Beach. It is a small historically black town between Myrtle and N. Myrtle Beach. You really do not want to be around here for that there are a lot of problems that have occurred during that week. Nothing against them but they act like idiots riding wheelies on the main highways throwing garbage everywhere and carrying their ladies on back wearing thongs. Public nudity and worse happen too :yikes:

did not see any of that in Mississippi and we were there for 2 days, the difference could be what the local towns allow. This group of people were super nice and a little bit older.

Cruzr joe

Bob Ledford
08-04-2013, 04:39 PM
Think most are just plain motorcycle enthusiasts. I have found through the years that we have enthusiasts, bikers, and biker trash amongst us. I consider myself an enthusiastic biker as most of the time I would rather be riding then sitting around complaining about this hurt or pain I woke up with.

Magdave
08-04-2013, 04:57 PM
did not see any of that in Mississippi and we were there for 2 days, the difference could be what the local towns allow. This group of people were super nice and a little bit older.

Cruzr joe

This crowd is younger crouch rocket riders. Some really nice bikes and am sure most are good people but a few ruin it for everyone. They are why MB tried to restrict the SC helmet laws and run the rallies out of town but the State Supreme court revoked their laws and things are getting back to same ole same ole. Harley week is a much nicer older crowd for the most part. Youngsters can't afford a Harley (or Spyder RT) these days.

Laila's Dad
08-05-2013, 01:06 AM
I have been getting information about the national bikers roundup via their Facebook page. Everything that I have read and heard points toward this being a pretty decent and respectful gathering. Everything from the advertising to the events scheduled seem to have a maturity to them. I completely understand the hesitation about going to an event that clearly seems to be catered to the black biker experience. I have that same hesitation, from the opposite perspective, when thinking of checking out some of the more known biker events. Whether it be because I ride a spyder or any of the other differences there is always a little thought in the back of the mind saying "how will this go?". Hearing your experience is like a breath of fresh air and in my opinion is how it should be. Our race, music style, or type of motorcycle shouldn't be an issue because the thing that connects us is our love for the open road.



We went to Tunica Mississippi on Friday 8/2/2013, we went for the Casinos, when we entered Mississippi we encountered motorcycles everywhere. Turns out we wound up right in the middle of "National Bikers Roundup", there were beautiful bikes everywhere. It soon became obvious that this was a rally geared toward black american bikers, and as one of the very very few "White Boys" in the Crowd we kind of stood out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, But that was really cool because we had one of the few Spyders there also, we garnered a lot of interest and met some really cool people who were there for the same reason that we go to Spyderfest, Spyderquest, Owners events, Lamonts Great BBQ and other events. the literature said that they hoped for 20,000 bikes, whether they reached that number or not i have no idea, but they were a lot of fun and we had a blast. They had groups from all over the United States. I just want to put out a shout to all of them, they were fantastic people.

Cruzr Joe

Laila's Dad
08-05-2013, 01:27 AM
We have 2 rallies in late May here in Myrtle Beach. 1st is Harley (and everyone else) followed the next week by BBW (Black Bike Week) at Atlantic Beach. It is a small historically black town between Myrtle and N. Myrtle Beach. You really do not want to be around here for that there are a lot of problems that have occurred during that week. Nothing against them but they act like idiots riding wheelies on the main highways throwing garbage everywhere and carrying their ladies on back wearing thongs. Public nudity and worse happen too :yikes:

The advertisement for BLack BIke Week shows the kind of atmosphere that it will be. Yes there will be some custom bikes but a large majority of the people there are there for the atmosphere. Every video I have seen is promoting the women more than the bikes. I am not here to judge that and when I was younger cant say I wouldn't have been interested in that scene. I think the concept of Black Bike Week is great, but it is disappointing to me as a novice in the bike world that this is one of the first events that come to the forefront. I assure you there are some black motorcycle guys who are all about the ride and performance of their bike. Unfortunately for us all in the human race there are good and not so good representations.

spydercowboy
08-05-2013, 06:27 AM
We went to Tunica Mississippi on Friday 8/2/2013, we went for the Casinos, when we entered Mississippi we encountered motorcycles everywhere. Turns out we wound up right in the middle of "National Bikers Roundup", there were beautiful bikes everywhere. It soon became obvious that this was a rally geared toward black american bikers, and as one of the very very few "White Boys" in the Crowd we kind of stood out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, But that was really cool because we had one of the few Spyders there also, we garnered a lot of interest and met some really cool people who were there for the same reason that we go to Spyderfest, Spyderquest, Owners events, Lamonts Great BBQ and other events. the literature said that they hoped for 20,000 bikes, whether they reached that number or not i have no idea, but they were a lot of fun and we had a blast. They had groups from all over the United States. I just want to put out a shout to all of them, they were fantastic people.

Cruzr Joe

Bet you felt the same way I felt when I was invited to an all black church service. A friend invited me and he introduced me to everyone and I was welcomed but I knew I was more than just a stranger and was the odd one there. For the first time I knew what blacks felt most of the time I think. Made me appreciate their experience a little better I too I believe. I really wish we could all get along but there are those that want no part of it which is a shame. Jackson and Sharpton for example and they gather more. Glad you had a good time with some cool folks.

Bob Denman
08-05-2013, 06:33 AM
Bacl, White, Green, Yellow, Purple, Old, Young, Tourer, Cruiser, Sportbike, 1%, 99%...
Bikers is bikers! :thumbup:

Cruzr Joe
08-05-2013, 07:54 AM
Bacl, White, Green, Yellow, Purple, Old, Young, Tourer, Cruiser, Sportbike, 1%, 99%...
Bikers is bikers! :thumbup:


:agree:

bullant12
08-05-2013, 08:08 AM
If you got to Beale St. on Wednesday nights during riding season... it is the same thing. We see many different races and cultures, but Joe's description of Tunica's event is exactly the same. This area of the mid-south is very predominant...
But if you ride, you ride! As long as everyone gets along, we are all the same!

gottago
08-05-2013, 08:22 AM
Bacl, White, Green, Yellow, Purple, Old, Young, Tourer, Cruiser, Sportbike, 1%, 99%...
Bikers is bikers! :thumbup::agree:

spydercatjohn
08-05-2013, 08:39 AM
We have 2 rallies in late May here in Myrtle Beach. 1st is Harley (and everyone else) followed the next week by BBW (Black Bike Week) at Atlantic Beach. It is a small historically black town between Myrtle and N. Myrtle Beach. You really do not want to be around here for that there are a lot of problems that have occurred during that week. Nothing against them but they act like idiots riding wheelies on the main highways throwing garbage everywhere and carrying their ladies on back wearing thongs. Public nudity and worse happen too :yikes:

Alot of that goes on at Daytona Bike week and Spring Break in Florida. Young people white or black are always finding ways to annoy their parents just like we did as kids.

Spyder Tony
08-05-2013, 08:43 AM
I have been getting information about the national bikers roundup via their Facebook page. Everything that I have read and heard points toward this being a pretty decent and respectful gathering. Everything from the advertising to the events scheduled seem to have a maturity to them. I completely understand the hesitation about going to an event that clearly seems to be catered to the black biker experience. I have that same hesitation, from the opposite perspective, when thinking of checking out some of the more known biker events. Whether it be because I ride a spyder or any of the other differences there is always a little thought in the back of the mind saying "how will this go?". Hearing your experience is like a breath of fresh air and in my opinion is how it should be. Our race, music style, or type of motorcycle shouldn't be an issue because the thing that connects us is our love for the open road.

I couldn't have said it any better than Lailas Dad already did. Here Here...

qasamm
08-05-2013, 09:40 AM
Bacl, White, Green, Yellow, Purple, Old, Young, Tourer, Cruiser, Sportbike, 1%, 99%...
Bikers is bikers! :thumbup:

Ditto!

2Gunns
08-05-2013, 09:53 AM
My RT is Black....does that count as a black biker lol


actaully, a buddy and I found ourselves in one of these roundups several years ago, and honestly it was one of the best events I have ever attended.

PrairieSpyder
08-05-2013, 10:14 AM
It just goes to show, it's not the skin, but the behavior!

spydercowboy
08-05-2013, 10:15 AM
Bacl, White, Green, Yellow, Purple, Old, Young, Tourer, Cruiser, Sportbike, 1%, 99%...
Bikers is bikers! :thumbup:

It's weird but biking seems to be one area where racism seems to take a back seat to what is going on. Now how do we get it to spread?

Bob Denman
08-05-2013, 10:28 AM
Oh that's easy...
Stay colorblind! ;) :thumbup:
I was actually raised in a family that was about as ignorant about stuff like this, that they could be.
Then I went off to college, and saw that there was a lot more to the World than I had been led to believe... :shocked:
Patti's right; Behavior counts a whole lot more! :2thumbs:

YIRYDE
08-05-2013, 12:34 PM
The National Association of Buffalo Soldiers And Troopers Motorcycle Club (N.A.B.S.T.M.C) is a majority African American organization. They are well respected and you will not find them acting the way some of the bikers act during the Myrtle Beach Bike week.

http://www.nabstmc.com/

Tim Pringle
08-05-2013, 01:16 PM
We went to Tunica Mississippi on Friday 8/2/2013, we went for the Casinos, when we entered Mississippi we encountered motorcycles everywhere. Turns out we wound up right in the middle of "National Bikers Roundup", there were beautiful bikes everywhere. It soon became obvious that this was a rally geared toward black american bikers, and as one of the very very few "White Boys" in the Crowd we kind of stood out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, But that was really cool because we had one of the few Spyders there also, we garnered a lot of interest and met some really cool people who were there for the same reason that we go to Spyderfest, Spyderquest, Owners events, Lamonts Great BBQ and other events. the literature said that they hoped for 20,000 bikes, whether they reached that number or not i have no idea, but they were a lot of fun and we had a blast. They had groups from all over the United States. I just want to put out a shout to all of them, they were fantastic people.

Cruzr Joe

Great post Cruzr Joe, I love hearing about story like this.

Oldmanzues
08-05-2013, 01:31 PM
The National Association of Buffalo Soldiers And Troopers Motorcycle Club (N.A.B.S.T.M.C) is a majority African American organization. They are well respected and you will not find them acting the way some of the bikers act during the Myrtle Beach Bike week.

http://www.nabstmc.com/
We did a PGR Mission for one of their members. Very nice group of people.How many know who the Buffalo Soldiers were in History?
On a different note, A rally sheet advertising a upcoming one. All HDs on sheet, I did not go. with this information, must be over 21, no weapons, if you do not like achocol or nudity, do not come.

Tim Pringle
08-05-2013, 03:05 PM
Oh that's easy...
Stay colorblind! ;) :thumbup:
I was actually raised in a family that was about as ignorant about stuff like this, that they could be.
Then I went off to college, and saw that there was a lot more to the World than I had been led to believe... :shocked:
Patti's right; Behavior counts a whole lot more! :2thumbs:

Thanks Bob,

I road with a group of Spyder Riders this Sunday to a historical town in Lynchburg, TN, It was a great ride. When we pulled into the town, I quickly realized that I seem to be the only African American there. I admit; I was a little nervous about how they might have felt about me being there. I had no such anxiety with my fellow Spyder Riders, they were very friendly. A group from Nashville TN, road down to meet us in Lynchburg, TN and they also arrive with one African American so that made two of us. We ate lunch at a barbecue place and had a great time. I truly understand how you might have initially felt when you arrived.

My committee to the Myrtle beach event, there are good and bad in every race of people.

Littlebadwolf
08-05-2013, 03:11 PM
I would hope that race doesn't matter among the Spyderlovers...What we have in common is our ride...Race shouldn't be an issue.

Tim Pringle
08-05-2013, 03:14 PM
Bet you felt the same way I felt when I was invited to an all black church service. A friend invited me and he introduced me to everyone and I was welcomed but I knew I was more than just a stranger and was the odd one there. For the first time I knew what blacks felt most of the time I think. Made me appreciate their experience a little better I too I believe. I really wish we could all get along but there are those that want no part of it which is a shame. Jackson and Sharpton for example and they gather more. Glad you had a good time with some cool folks.

It's starting to seem like Spyder Riders are a different breed. We enjoy the ride and do not care about skin color. :bowdown:

Tim Pringle
08-05-2013, 03:17 PM
Bacl, White, Green, Yellow, Purple, Old, Young, Tourer, Cruiser, Sportbike, 1%, 99%...
Bikers is bikers! :thumbup:

AMEN Bob!!!

Shewhoprays
08-05-2013, 03:37 PM
We hosted the Roundup here in Columbia,Mo a few years ago. Lots of VERY nice people. Yes there were a few that probably were a bit naughty and they were put in a separate place and roped off, per Round up officials. The bikes were outsanding and they loved to show them off. Harley brought in their trailer and had demos. That's where I tried a Harley trike and realized I didn't want one. We almost tipped over going around a corner. The community thought they would come out to the shops and restaurants but they bar b qed on site and visited Sams and Wal Mart. I would love to see them back.

PS The community was scared to have them come and were also scared to have the state HOG rally a few weeks later. Bikers have a bad reputation - it doesn't matter color they are.

spydercowboy
08-05-2013, 04:53 PM
PS The community was scared to have them come and were also scared to have the state HOG rally a few weeks later. Bikers have a bad reputation - it doesn't matter color they are.

I though that was nearly a thing of the past. Don't you remember the Honda commercial. "you meet the nicest people on a Honda" or something like that. Now maybe it's a Spyder!.

Bob Denman
08-05-2013, 06:25 PM
, ...there are good and bad in every race of people.

There's only one race; the HUMAN race! ;)
The fact that there is good and bad in all of us only goes to show that we're all pretty much the same...
Now; let's all sing, "Kum Baya" a few times, and pass the S'mores around! :thumbup:

DaDrkmysta
08-05-2013, 06:34 PM
There's only one race; the HUMAN race! ;)
The fact that there is good and bad in all of us only goes to show that we're all pretty much the same...
Now; let's all sing, "Kum Baya" a few times, and pass the S'mores around! :thumbup:

I don't care what color or nationality they are... as long as we can have fun while riding...i'm good! now that i said that.... Black people call ... Yay eee Yay eee! LOL

bruiser
08-05-2013, 07:51 PM
My committee to the Myrtle beach event, there are good and bad in every race of people.

I agree Tim.

SPYD3R
08-05-2013, 08:05 PM
are there any YELLOW MOTORCYCLE CLUBS... or RED CLUBS... or WHITE CLUBS....??????
what's the point here...???????
73171

quickster47
08-05-2013, 08:17 PM
This is all so tiring and boring. Let's move on to stuff that is more relevant and Spyder oriented.

Carl

Bob Denman
08-05-2013, 08:48 PM
Do you want to talk about helmet usage? that's an issue that is anything but boring! :yikes:

DaDrkmysta
08-06-2013, 12:21 AM
are there any YELLOW MOTORCYCLE CLUBS... or RED CLUBS... or WHITE CLUBS....??????
what's the point here...???????
73171

:hun:
No probably not a yellow or red club out there but there are some white clubs. Sorry to tell ya but they exist. Probably some all black club out there as well(and that's dumb too). Hopefully there is no such group with the Spyder Community. That being said there are some clubs that myself being African American would not be allowed to join or wouldn't want to join. Boring topic for some but real life for others. It's all about the attitude..

Starting a club ... BOS... Brothers on Spyders... where anyone can join.. male/female ... white black or any other race or nationality or alien origin. Who's in?

wait i was only kidding about starting a club. :p;)

Oldmanzues
08-06-2013, 02:23 AM
are there any YELLOW MOTORCYCLE CLUBS... or RED CLUBS... or WHITE CLUBS....??????
what's the point here...???????
73171
Maybe. Blue Knights are Law Enforement related. Red Knights are Fire service. Green Knights are service related.
I am more concerened about the type of rider you are, then who you are. Booze after the ride, maybe. Booze during the ride, NO.
Ride safe and have fun.
Oldmanzues

Bob Denman
08-06-2013, 06:43 AM
There are more than a few "Blazing Saddles" references that I'd love to throw in here about now; but I don't dare... :roflblack:

DaDrkmysta,
Fire up a new club! :thumbup: I'd sure as heck ride with you!

Cruzr Joe
08-06-2013, 08:02 AM
are there any YELLOW MOTORCYCLE CLUBS... or RED CLUBS... or WHITE CLUBS....??????
what's the point here...???????
73171

It would be politicaly incorrect to have a "White" Motorcycle club.

And the point was that i was welcomed by everyone at a "Black" motorcycle meet, even though I was not Black.

Cruzr Joe


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Tim Pringle
08-06-2013, 08:18 AM
There's only one race; the HUMAN race! ;)
The fact that there is good and bad in all of us only goes to show that we're all pretty much the same...
Now; let's all sing, "Kum Baya" a few times, and pass the S'mores around! :thumbup:

I agree Bob..."Kum Baya"...lol.:roflblack:

Tim Pringle
08-06-2013, 08:25 AM
This is all so tiring and boring. Let's move on to stuff that is more relevant and Spyder oriented.

Carl

I actually love the topic. All of the responses I have read have been very inspirational for me.

Lamonster
08-06-2013, 08:41 AM
When I'm in Daytona I like to hangout at the Hess gas station at night to checkout all the cool bikes there, mostly sportbikes and 95% of them are people of color. Most of them if you saw them on the street without their bikes you would cross the road to avoid them. That being said I've never been treated with anything other than respect because I show them the same respect. I love the amount of time, money and creativity these guys and gals put in their bike. The color thing is obvious at first but the love of the sport is was unites us all. :doorag:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64473&d=1363343036

Magdave
08-06-2013, 08:46 AM
http://youtu.be/tz5X0z9CWOM

Bob Denman
08-06-2013, 08:48 AM
The color of that bike is amazing! :firstplace:
BRP should take note of it... :2thumbs:

Tim Pringle
08-06-2013, 09:45 AM
When I'm in Daytona I like to hangout at the Hess gas station at night to checkout all the cool bikes there, mostly sportbikes and 95% of them are people of color. Most of them if you saw them on the street without their bikes you would cross the road to avoid them. That being said I've never been treated with anything other than respect because I show them the same respect. I love the amount of time, money and creativity these guys and gals put in their bike. The color thing is obvious at first but the love of the sport is was unites us all. :doorag:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64473&d=1363343036

I could not even imagine the amount of time and money it took to create this master piece.

Bob Denman
08-06-2013, 10:49 AM
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This guy sure had the bug bite him! :2thumbs:

bscrive
08-06-2013, 11:20 AM
When I clicked on this link I thought it was going to be a bunch of guys/gals with different black Spyders showing off their bikes. nojoke

DaDrkmysta
08-06-2013, 09:26 PM
All in All... more than anything I would just like to have a group of people to Ryde with. Currently I just ride with a friend of mines. We're always looking to expand the group (can you call two people a group?) We see people on Spyders all the time but I guess two black men on Spyders can be somewhat menacing:roflblack: as there's never a long conversation. The Indiana Chapter of Spyder Lovers has to be organizing something ... they have to be... that's the only way we'll get to meet other ryders and maybe create the offical spyder club... where race, age or sex doesn't matter... we're all on 3 and trying to have a great Ryde.

@ BobDenman... it would be a pleasure to ryde with you sir.. if i ever make it to NY on Spyder or any other vehicle, we'll do lunch or something..

YIRYDE
08-06-2013, 10:30 PM
7319373194
This guy sure had the bug bite him! :2thumbs:

This is an awesome Spyder :2thumbs:

Bob Denman
08-07-2013, 06:32 AM
BobDenman... it would be a pleasure to ryde with you sir.. if i ever make it to NY on Spyder or any other vehicle, we'll do lunch or something..
Do you have plans for next April?
SpyderFest 2014! :yes::ohyea::yes:

shelbydave
08-07-2013, 08:30 AM
are there any YELLOW MOTORCYCLE CLUBS... or RED CLUBS... or WHITE CLUBS....??????
what's the point here...???????
73171

I was thinking of starting a Blue motorcycle club... I hate the thought of being left out because I don't have a black motorcycle...

Bob Denman
08-07-2013, 08:35 AM
Good idea :thumbup:! Blue is the most un-appreciated color! ;)

Oldmanzues
08-07-2013, 08:44 AM
7319373194
This guy sure had the bug bite him! :2thumbs:
Congradulation to whoever make this one or group of people who did.
All I can say. Good Job does not seem good enought
Oldmanzues

CurtG
08-07-2013, 01:33 PM
All in All... more than anything I would just like to have a group of people to Ryde with. Currently I just ride with a friend of mines. We're always looking to expand the group (can you call two people a group?) We see people on Spyders all the time but I guess two black men on Spyders can be somewhat menacing:roflblack: as there's never a long conversation. The Indiana Chapter of Spyder Lovers has to be organizing something ... they have to be... that's the only way we'll get to meet other ryders and maybe create the offical spyder club... where race, age or sex doesn't matter... we're all on 3 and trying to have a great Ryde.

@ BobDenman... it would be a pleasure to ryde with you sir.. if i ever make it to NY on Spyder or any other vehicle, we'll do lunch or something..

I can't speak to the Indiana folks but I do know that Ohio Spyder Rides have been organizing rides with adjacent states. You might want to check out their website. ohiospyderryders.org

Ride safe,

DaDrkmysta
08-08-2013, 06:10 PM
Do you have plans for next April?
SpyderFest 2014! :yes::ohyea::yes:


Thinking about it !! I want to ... just wondering when it will ever be closer to home... never taken a long trip on Spyder yet.

Bob Denman
08-08-2013, 06:41 PM
Indy's not too bad of a trip down to Springfield :thumbup:
We came through there on I-70 while on the way.
We can always try and co-ordinate something as time grows nearer and plans start coming together. I rode out with Champagne; he put the whole trip together out of North Jersey, and it was a lot of fun covering all of those miles in the middle of an infestation of Spyders.:2thumbs:

shelbydave
08-08-2013, 06:42 PM
Thinking about it !! I want to ... just wondering when it will ever be closer to home... never taken a long trip on Spyder yet.

I don't think they'll ever move Springfield MO. any closer to Indy...:dontknow::dontknow:

Bob Denman
08-08-2013, 06:48 PM
As I recall, it's only about 450 miles or so; a half-day's ride! :thumbup:

SpydeRider2010
08-11-2013, 03:47 PM
it's not WHAT you ride.
it's THAT you ride.

and the ONLY color that
really makes a damn bit
of difference is GREEN.

because without that
GREEN... we don't own
or fuel the bike ;)

Bob Ledford
08-12-2013, 01:06 PM
If you have never done it you need to try it onetime. I have lived here since 1955 and watched it grow from one block long into the freaking mess that it is today. Most riders can not believe it used to be only one block of Main Street. One or two vendors on Main with a big bike show held in the National Guard Armory on Ballough Road included all brands back then. if we had 3,000 show up it was a crowd. Now it is 50,000 or more and encompasses 5 to 10 different counties that have activities all going on at the same time.