2013 STS going back to the dealership

[Green RSS]

My wife's 2013 STS is having the following opportunities: Brake lights randomly stay on after shut down, the LCD screen does not come on for about 45 to 60 seconds after starting the bike (again randomly), and today the kill switch would not stop the engine from running (had to turn off the key). She also had the brake light wire that was hanging loose and rubbing against the tire (dealer has already fixed that one). So it's back to the dealer for it. I know some of these opportunities are addressed separately in threads, but just wanted to put them together and see if anyone else is having this many electrical gremlins at one time. The bike has a whopping 532 miles on it. ;)

[BikerDoc]

Sounds like a poor assembly job to me.... all kinds of problems occur with Spyders when the dealer is a little slack putting the bike together.

[samewok]

I would make sure the dealer rechecks everything.

[Green RSS]

We are going to drop it off Monday and have them go thru it completely. Was hoping to go on a trip this week, but I don't trust the bike right now.

[Spyder Tony]

My wife's 2013 STS is having the following opportunities: Brake lights randomly stay on after shut down, the LCD screen does not come on for about 45 to 60 seconds after starting the bike (again randomly), and today the kill switch would not stop the engine from running (had to turn off the key). She also had the brake light wire that was hanging loose and rubbing against the tire (dealer has already fixed that one). So it's back to the dealer for it. I know some of these opportunities are addressed separately in threads, but just wanted to put them together and see if anyone else is having this many electrical gremlins at one time. The bike has a whopping 532 miles on it. ;)

i have a 2013 ST LTD (830 miles) and had some of the same assembly related problems you do. As mentioned, have the dealer go over the whole bike again ant fix the gremlins. I was disheartened at first but after my 600 mile service Nikki (my bike) is running real smooth. My bike was in the shop 5 times in the 1st month..2 times in a row for the brake lights staying on. Im glad i hung in there because i now am enjoying my bike the way i had envisioned doing so. Hang in there and have the dealer fix that bike!!!

[Bob Ledford]

I can totally agree with you on not feeling OK with gremlins rearing their ugly heads at 500 miles. I would not either.

If you could talk your dealer into allowing you to over watch the repair process it sure would benefit you a lot in understanding the complexities of the Spyder. But we know that probably won't happen!

Some dealers have their acts together and some can not seem to understand the true meaning of good quality assurance service. Every time you take the bike back for a poor prep error costs them money and referral points with you the buyer/customer.

[Green RSS]

i have a 2013 ST LTD (830 miles) and had some of the same assembly related problems you do. As mentioned, have the dealer go over the whole bike again ant fix the gremlins. I was disheartened at first but after my 600 mile service Nikki (my bike) is running real smooth. My bike was in the shop 5 times in the 1st month..2 times in a row for the brake lights staying on. Im glad i hung in there because i now am enjoying my bike the way i had envisioned doing so. Hang in there and have the dealer fix that bike!!!

We'll keep pushing them. The service manager has always taken care of us. I'm sure they will get it right.

[Green RSS]

We dropped the Spyder off this morning. They agreed to check out everything on the list and to give the bike a close look over. They knew about the TSB on the brake lights; and thought that the dash screen may have been caused by a low battery. The bike had been sitting for a couple of weeks.

[DrewNJ]

I like how you call those concerns "opportunities"....:D
Hope they get it all sorted out!

[napper39]

you must use a battery maintainer on these bikes if you dont ride at least 4 times a week for some reason the batterys discharge faster than any bike ive owend,and im on my 53ed bike right now.:chat:

[retired1]

[QUOTE=napper39;660792]you must use a battery maintainer on these bikes if you dont ride at least 4 times a week for some reason the batterys discharge faster than any bike ive owend,and im on my 53ed bike right now.:chat: [/QUO

Some people's experience is different. My 2010 RTS bought in March of '10 never saw a battery maintainer until April of '13. During this time period, the bike would not be started or run for 6 or 7 months over the winter. It sat in my unheated garage and never failed to start and run for me in the spring. The only reason I hooked it to the maintainer n April was it was given to me as a birthday present. It hasn't been hooked up since then and I have no problems starting it. The only reason I posted this was to let newbies and prospective owners know that the above post is not necessarily "Gospel"!

[SpyderAnn01]

[QUOTE=napper39;660792]you must use a battery maintainer on these bikes if you dont ride at least 4 times a week for some reason the batterys discharge faster than any bike ive owend,and im on my 53ed bike right now.:chat: [/QUO

Some people's experience is different. My 2010 RTS bought in March of '10 never saw a battery maintainer until April of '13. During this time period, the bike would not be started or run for 6 or 7 months over the winter. It sat in my unheated garage and never failed to start and run for me in the spring. The only reason I hooked it to the maintainer n April was it was given to me as a birthday present. It hasn't been hooked up since then and I have no problems starting it. The only reason I posted this was to let newbies and prospective owners know that the above post is not necessarily "Gospel"!

I agree 100%. My 2010 RT also was never on a tender and sat in an unheated garage in Michigan for the winter months. At 59,000 miles I thought I needed a new battery but it turned out to be the stator that had gone bad.

[Green RSS]

I have to wonder about the battery issue also. My STS has sat for long periods of time also, but I haven't had any of the problems my wife's STS has had. Both were bought the same day at the same dealership. Keeps me thinking that this may be a issue with how it was assembled. :sour:

[Highwayman2013]

Could just be loose battery connections.

[Green RSS]

Turns out the brake switch had to be replaced. As for the LCD Cluster not coming on at start up; they showed me this bulletin from BRP:73562

[spyder3]

BRP has sure changed the definition of what we would think is normal:dontknow:

[JkRbbt]

$25-30M and all you gotta do is drive around a little to cool the machine and it will work just fine? OK, I haven't had any problem with my 2013 RT since the ball joint replacement so I'm not complaining, but all the heat issues, fire, inop displays, ... is making me a little nervous as far as my investment. I'd like to hear a little more from the company other than "take two ice cubes and call me in a couple of weeks." I'd just like to know that BRP is working on something... anything. :dontknow:

[Sny]

Wow... 80-110F is considered unnaturally hot to BRP?

I'm pretty sure every state in the US reaches this temp range at some point.

[Green RSS]

Yeah, they are going to have to find a way to vent the heat better.

[flamingobabe]

Sorry but this is not acceptable....if the cluster will not come on because the cluster is too hot...drive down road to cool down.....heat is bad for electronics...there is a heat issue.....these heat issues need to be fully addressed ...not band-aides
Turns out the brake switch had to be replaced. As for the LCD Cluster not coming on at start up; they showed me this bulletin from BRP:73562

[333Club]

My wife's 2013 STS is having the following opportunities: Brake lights randomly stay on after shut down, the LCD screen does not come on for about 45 to 60 seconds after starting the bike (again randomly), and today the kill switch would not stop the engine from running (had to turn off the key). She also had the brake light wire that was hanging loose and rubbing against the tire (dealer has already fixed that one). So it's back to the dealer for it. I know some of these opportunities are addressed separately in threads, but just wanted to put them together and see if anyone else is having this many electrical gremlins at one time. The bike has a whopping 532 miles on it. ;)

Regarding the brake lights staying on after shutdown. I rented a 2013 ST-S for a weekend before purchasing. I was told that if you keep your foot on the brake while shutting down (which is the correct procedure from a safety standpoint) the brake light will stay on. If you push the brake pedal down firmly after shut-down it will shut the light off. While this does work I would like to hear if this was corrected during your service (and I was just given a Band-Aid fix). I am picking up my ST-Limited later this week so the more I know the better off I will be at delivery.

[Sny]

Regarding the brake lights staying on after shutdown. I rented a 2013 ST-S for a weekend before purchasing. I was told that if you keep your foot on the brake while shutting down (which is the correct procedure from a safety standpoint) the brake light will stay on. If you push the brake pedal down firmly after shut-down it will shut the light off. While this does work I would like to hear if this was corrected during your service (and I was just given a Band-Aid fix). I am picking up my ST-Limited later this week so the more I know the better off I will be at delivery.
The brake staying on problem is a known issue at this point and BRP's fix should remedy it in all cases. Only takes a few minutes to fix. Just make sure they check the bike out for all of the known tech bulletins before you take it home. You'll feel better knowing they fixed it before you rode it away.

[Green RSS]

While this does work I would like to hear if this was corrected during your service (and I was just given a Band-Aid fix). I am picking up my ST-Limited later this week so the more I know the better off I will be at delivery.

It has rained pretty much every day here since we got the STS back home (in-tween rain showers); but I'll ley you know once we get a chance to ride again.

[quickster47]

It has rained pretty much every day here since we got the STS back home (in-tween rain showers); but I'll ley you know once we get a chance to ride again.

I picked up our ST-S from Mountain Motorsports last Saturday and rode the entire way home, 106 miles, in the pouring cats and dogs rain. I know it gave the bike a very through test of rain durability of which is survived. Now after 250 miles we have had no heat problems or light problems or anything else abnormal. And for this I give credit to our service tech, Adam, at Mountain Motorsports. He is simply the best and really cares about his customers.

We have also adopted a new ryding slogan, "If it ain't raining, we ain't rydin". :shocked:

Carl

[Edsts]

I thought I was reading my own post , I towed my bike to the dealer this pass sat with the same and similar problems . When at the dealers service dept I saw bout 9 spyders in with problems . There were 3 rt in for loosing there brakes ether during the rain or after , the rest were sts including mine , I gave a list of problems . Hope fully they will fix it. still under warranty with 1500 miles , so I can sell the pos. I got a buyer on the hook .

[Bob Denman]

It has rained pretty much every day here since we got the STS back home (in-tween rain showers); but I'll ley you know once we get a chance to ride again.

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[ARtraveler]

[QUOTE=retired1;660839]

I agree 100%. My 2010 RT also was never on a tender and sat in an unheated garage in Michigan for the winter months. At 59,000 miles I thought I needed a new battery but it turned out to be the stator that had gone bad.

Same here. Both our :spyder2:'s sat unused for almost 10 days. No battery tender and they fired up instantly.

[FIRECAT]

What the hell is going on with these things they should be completely trouble-free five years on the market they should be turnkey trouble-free like a car

[Edsts]

My wife's 2013 STS is having the following opportunities: Brake lights randomly stay on after shut down, the LCD screen does not come on for about 45 to 60 seconds after starting the bike (again randomly), and today the kill switch would not stop the engine from running (had to turn off the key). She also had the brake light wire that was hanging loose and rubbing against the tire (dealer has already fixed that one). So it's back to the dealer for it. I know some of these opportunities are addressed separately in threads, but just wanted to put them together and see if anyone else is having this many electrical gremlins at one time. The bike has a whopping 532 miles on it. ;)


Same exacto problem i had with my sts , Took it to the dealer bout 6 times and finally all seems well , The kill switch was the last problem i had. Dealer installed a new one. All my problems started as soon as i picked it up this last April.

[jthornton]

you must use a battery maintainer on these bikes if you dont ride at least 4 times a week for some reason the batterys discharge faster than any bike ive owend,and im on my 53ed bike right now.:chat:

I've never used a battery maintainer on my RT and it sits for up to a month when it is in the rear of the garage and hard to get to. Starts every time...

JT

[Green RSS]

Well, everything is fixed now, except for the heat shield/master cylinder meltdown recall. lol back to the shop next week. Can-Am is prorating my dealers orders and they will hopefully be getting a few by the end of this month.

[quickster47]

Sounds like you might be finally getting back on the road with a healthy ryde. Now it is time to make up that lost ryding time and put some miles on your ST-S.

Carl

[Green RSS]

Well, my STS (Circuit Yellow) came back home a few days ago. But while picking up my wife's STS, I stopped to fill it up with gas (Good husband :D), I came to a stop, hit the kill switch and.....nothing. Bike kept running for about 20 seconds before finally shutting off. So back to the dealer it went. They are going to replace the kill switch (Can Am approved it this time). Hopefully get the bike back in a day or two.

[OWISE1]

Turns out the brake switch had to be replaced. As for the LCD Cluster not coming on at start up; they showed me this bulletin from BRP:73562


Will, there you/we no have BRP's answer...NO HEAT PROBLEMS :banghead:

I guess We all have to consider BRP is way North, so of-course they don't have the HEAT ISSUES :dontknow:

[Magdave]

Will, there you/we no have BRP's answer...NO HEAT PROBLEMS :banghead:

I guess We all have to consider BRP is way North, so of-course they don't have the HEAT ISSUES :dontknow:
OMG that is so stupid. "Normal" :gaah:

[nhoj]

I guess We all have to consider BRP is way North, so of-course they don't have the HEAT ISSUES :dontknow:

According to your location you are at 46°29′29″N Latitude

I'm in Aurora Ontario and we are at 44°00′00″N Latitude. I'm south of you as are 15 Million or more Canadians.

But yes we do not have any heat issues on our ST nor the RT.

[Bob Denman]

LCD screens can be susceptible to this sort of thing when they get too hot...
It sux; but the screens that they're using for the bikes are simply doing what they do in high temperature situations... :gaah:
And they do cool off and work normally! :thumbup: