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Jeriatric
06-27-2013, 02:55 PM
Ironman - Spyder Style

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Dates are flexible......we have all summer.

Don't miss your chance to win a FREE water bottle.

ARtraveler
06-27-2013, 03:02 PM
It looks like a good week to go testing :spyder2:'s for heat issues. :roflblack:

MidLifeCrisis
06-27-2013, 03:03 PM
Definitely called Death Valley for a reason. Phoenix is frosty by comparison.

Ga Blue Knight
06-27-2013, 03:06 PM
That is one hot ride! Down here in the Deep South we have nothing that hot but add 100% humidity to 110 degrees and you have a whole new meaning to the phrase it's not the temperature but the humidity.

Hovdestar
06-27-2013, 03:08 PM
UFF DA!!!!!!!!!!

And I thought it was getting hot by reaching the 90's here in the mountains for the next few days. <M>

ARtraveler
06-27-2013, 03:14 PM
You want HOT! ? It was 81 here in Anchorage yesterday. :roflblack::roflblack:

rlynchtx
06-27-2013, 03:29 PM
70741

finless
06-27-2013, 03:34 PM
120 miles west of Jerbear my Spyder is reading 94 ambient.
The Socal July heat wave is here but we rarely get above 100F.

I for sure do not envy Jerbear!

Bob

Jeriatric
06-27-2013, 03:52 PM
Some of us are fortunate enough to be able to escape home before it gets hot. Others, like those in and around Phoenix, or those in Lost Wages are hard pressed. Unless they want to run at night to seek cooler temps. We do that too, but only when heading East.


Now, are ya ready to win that FREE water bottle?

finless
06-27-2013, 04:05 PM
Ha! So how do you win the water bottle?

Bob

Chupaca
06-27-2013, 04:06 PM
Was 102 here but with the heat your showing I would be hard pressed to tell where the heat was coming from on the roadster...you probably sweat in the pool...!! Keep cool...:thumbup:

Jeriatric
06-27-2013, 04:13 PM
Meet here at 'High Noon'

http://hotelguides.com/hotels/california/shoshone/211340.html

Oh too, there's no charge for entry.

All ya gotta do is show up!! :roflblack:

Bob Denman
06-27-2013, 04:41 PM
Here comes a line of Spyders right now...
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finless
06-27-2013, 05:11 PM
Meet here at 'High Noon'

http://hotelguides.com/hotels/california/shoshone/211340.html

Oh too, there's no charge for entry.

All ya gotta do is show up!! :roflblack:

You are joking I hope?
But if you make this real, I am willing to go for that ride!
Miles are experience which is something I as a new owner want to do :ohyea:

I plan to go for Ortega Highway the weekend after my 600 mile service... As you know that road makes the Dragon look like a garden snake ;)
After that Highway 1 out of Pismo....
My riding bucket list is building ;)

Bob

Bob Denman
06-27-2013, 05:14 PM
Ortega highway?? Take lots of pictures for the rest of us! :2thumbs:

finless
06-27-2013, 05:23 PM
Ortega highway?? Take lots of pictures for the rest of us! :2thumbs:

See here:

http://www.theortegahighway.com/

Yes I will take pics and maybe some video.

California has some really windy roads. The rugged coastline and Highway 1 is one of them. There are tons of extremely winding roads with full on switch backs through our many mountain ranges. Not to discredit the Dragon or the Rattler but after watching the videos of them, for sure we have more challenging roads here than that. I know some people that will not even drive a car on some of them.

Jerbear has a road called 74 out of La Quinta into Idlewild that is quite challenging!


Bob

Jeriatric
06-27-2013, 05:23 PM
You are joking I hope?
But if you make this real, I am willing to go for that ride!
Miles are experience which is something I as a new owner want to do :ohyea:

I plan to go for Ortega Highway the weekend after my 600 mile service... As you know that road makes the Dragon look like a garden snake ;)
After that Highway 1 out of Pismo....
My riding bucket list is building ;)

Bob

I may be old but, if a few guys/gals want to give it a go. I'm game! Ya only live once.

Bob Denman
06-27-2013, 05:26 PM
Thanks Bob! :2thumbs:

Jer,
I admire your spirit of adventure! :bowdown::bowdown:

Jeriatric
06-27-2013, 05:34 PM
I plan to go for Ortega Highway the weekend after my 600 mile service...
Bob

Back in the 70's we used to do the Ortega from Riverside up and out of Lake Elsinore to Capistrano and back in a day...............On bicycles. Those were the days.......nojoke

It's a fun road when ya have a motor too.

finless
06-27-2013, 05:51 PM
Back in the 70's we used to do the Ortega from Riverside up and out of Lake Elsinore to Capistrano and back in a day...............On bicycles. Those were the days.......nojoke

It's a fun road when ya have a motor too.

HOLY COW! I could not even image coming up the Ortega Highway from Elsinore on a peddle bike! That is a MONSTER CLIMB! I am impressed. I have always been somewhat active (Snow Skiing, biking, climbing, swimming, water skiing, etc) but that peddle ride must have been super challenging! I would never have considered it even doable by me. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:


Bob

boborgera
06-27-2013, 06:03 PM
First Annual, Isn't that an Oxymoron??....:joke::roflblack:

Jeriatric
06-27-2013, 06:04 PM
First Annual, Isn't that an Oxymoron??....:joke::roflblack:

Bob, you know I don't pay that stuff no never mind........:roflblack:

SpyderAnn01
06-27-2013, 06:14 PM
We are going on a ride on Saturday which is being called the Forest Gump Ride (Stupid is as Stupid Does) we are expecting a high temperature of 117 on Saturday.

Jeriatric
06-27-2013, 06:18 PM
We are going on a ride on Saturday which is being called the Forest Gump Ride (Stupid is as Stupid Does) we are expecting a high temperature of 117 on Saturday.

Yourself, and MurphyB are two of a select group of hero's I have here. Enough said. :thumbup:

MidLifeCrisis
06-27-2013, 06:31 PM
I would so be all over this if I was closer. Nothing tops crazy like getting together with a whole bunch crazies. I like it. :D

Jeriatric
06-27-2013, 06:38 PM
I would so be all over this if I was closer. Nothing tops crazy like getting together with a whole bunch crazies. I like it. :D

Trailer time! nojoke

finless
06-27-2013, 07:21 PM
Trailer time! nojoke

Can my wife ride in your trailer? :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:


Bob

Jeriatric
06-27-2013, 07:28 PM
Can my wife ride in your trailer? :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:


Bob

:hun: :yikes: Welllll, does she have goggles? :roflblack::joke:

Jeriatric
06-27-2013, 07:32 PM
PM sent to TicketBait:

Are you in?

TicketBait
06-27-2013, 11:21 PM
PM sent to TicketBait:

Are you in?

Don't understand your question, let me see here, it's going to be extremely hot in your neck of the woods, and I should ride out from the beach where the high on Saturday here will be
45 d e g r e e s cooler than where I can go to get a free hot water bottle that might have all but evaporated ..........:wrong::roflblack: However not far away from here in Woodland Hills it will be 102-104, and then it's easy to go thru Topanga Canyon and hit the coast or the Rock Store.


" First Annual " sounds really hot hot hot:helpsmilie:

Jeriatric
06-27-2013, 11:37 PM
Don't understand your question, let me see here, it's going to be extremely hot in your neck of the woods, and I should ride out from the beach where the high on Saturday here will be
45 d e g r e e s cooler than where I can go to get a free hot water bottle that might have all but evaporated ..........:wrong::roflblack: However not far away from here in Woodland Hills it will be 102-104, and then it's easy to go thru Topanga Canyon and hit the coast or the Rock Store.


" First Annual " sounds really hot hot hot:helpsmilie:


It's a Death Valley run..."RIDE THROUGH THE FURNACE"......looking for 5 or 6 willing Spyder riders. Anytime this summer. Whatever dates we can agree on.

TB.......just say yes - and don't forget to bring your camera!

Promise it won't be over 132 degrees.

J

TicketBait
06-28-2013, 12:11 AM
yes

Jeriatric
06-28-2013, 12:25 AM
yes

Whew! Could hardly hear you :roflblack: :clap::thumbup:

OK........That's three.......TB, finless(Bob), & myself. TB meet Bob......Bob, TB is a hoot. You guys will hit it off for sure.

Who's next to sign on........:dontknow: We'll make the best of it and no doubt will have some good laughs.

Desert Spyder
06-28-2013, 07:02 AM
I used to live near Death Valley (Trona) when I was young. It was an adventure! But I'm no longer young. LOL

Bob Denman
06-28-2013, 07:09 AM
We are going on a ride on Saturday which is being called the Forest Gump Ride (Stupid is as Stupid Does) we are expecting a high temperature of 117 on Saturday.
Good luck while you're out "Gumpin' it" :thumbup:

70765

daveinva
06-28-2013, 07:18 AM
I rode in 100+ degree heat-- 250% humidity! :shocked: -- last summer from D.C. to northern New Jersey, much of the ride stuck in traffic on the Garden State Parkway. Took me five hours to do what I should have been able to do in not much more than 3.

Needless to say, it didn't matter what part of the Spyder was hot that day. :bbq:

Anyway, my only safety tip: wear jackets, not mesh. And spend the day *before* hydrating like you've never hydrated before, and drink down a bottle of whatever at every gas stop (or even better, pack a camelbak for the road).

Have, errr, fun? :2thumbs:

finless
06-28-2013, 08:42 AM
Hey TB, Finless Bob saying hello....

Are we nuts? :yikes:

I guess we will find out :roflblack:


Bob

Blue Star
06-28-2013, 10:28 PM
Hey Jerbear, lets do the ride on Wednesday:yikes:


70821





Ironman - Spyder Style

10 Day Forecast - °F Death Valley, Ca.



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Dates are flexible......we have all summer.

Don't miss your chance to win a FREE water bottle.

finless
06-29-2013, 08:48 AM
Hey Jerbear, lets do the ride on Wednesday:yikes:


70821

Ha! That's funny.... 700F.... Must have been a solar flair that day!

Bob

LeClaireRog
06-29-2013, 09:06 AM
Wow, that is hot! Do you have many flying insects?

We live along the Mississippi river and there are so many bugs we take windshield cleaner with us whenever we head out. It brings a whole new meaning to bugout. ;)

TicketBait
06-29-2013, 09:11 AM
Hey TB, Finless Bob saying hello....

Are we nuts? :yikes:

I guess we will find out :roflblack:


Bob

Roasted nuts! :D

finless
06-29-2013, 09:17 AM
So are we doing this?
Based on my schedule late August or September would be the best times for me.
After that it would have to be late October.

Roasted nuts :roflblack:
The first annual "Roast Your Nuts In The Dragon's Mouth" Ride :p

Bob

stevedfive
06-29-2013, 09:24 AM
Instead of an Ironbutt ride, it can be a Firebutt ride.

TicketBait
06-29-2013, 09:29 AM
70821

Let's do it:cheers: Whatever is the hottest day of course :banghead:

Firebutt ride has a nice ring to it :roflblack:

Jeriatric
06-29-2013, 10:14 AM
Hey Jerbear, lets do the ride on Wednesday:yikes:


70821

YOW!! I'll pass on Wednesday :roflblack:------------- Are you in? We' ed enjoy your company.


So are we doing this?
Based on my schedule late August or September would be the best times for me.
After that it would have to be late October.

Roasted nuts :roflblack:
The first annual "Roast Your Nuts In The Dragon's Mouth" Ride :p

Bob

Whatever time works best for you guys.




Instead of an Ironbutt ride, it can be a Firebutt ride.

Steve, if you and BlueStar say yes.......we would have our 5 and can start working on a date.

What a crew.........:thumbup:



Let's do it:cheers: Whatever is the hottest day of course :banghead:

Firebutt ride has a nice ring to it :roflblack:

:thumbup:


Sounds good!!

stevedfive
06-29-2013, 12:23 PM
Worked summers in Baker as a youngster. That was enough for me. Highest it got was 136 at 2 pm and 117 at 1am. I'M OUT!

I asked a buddy if he wanted to ride with you guys. He asked if he could bring his ex-wife. Ha!

Jeriatric
06-29-2013, 12:37 PM
Worked summers in Baker as a youngster. That was enough for me. Highest it got was 136 at 2 pm and 117 at 1am. I'M OUT!

Darn! We'll miss ya! nojoke

Spread the word if ya would. Would like to have at least 5 Spyder riders.



Know what you mean about Baker('BIG THERMOMETER HOT'!). Spent a year at Eddies Air Patch, China Lake, and time on various other dry lake beds in the area.

Blue Star
06-29-2013, 12:43 PM
So are we doing this?
Based on my schedule late August or September would be the best times for me.
After that it would have to be late October.

Roasted nuts :roflblack:
The first annual "Roast Your Nuts In The Dragon's Mouth" Ride :p

Bob

Call me crazy (or plain stupid), but I will go with you. Late August or early September sounds good, as it will be after SITR for me.

Wonder if I can rig this to work for the Spyder

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/27/can-you-really-beat-the-heat-with-a-20-d-i-y-air-conditioner-we-give-it-a-try/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=Share+Buttons

Jeriatric
06-29-2013, 12:55 PM
Call me crazy (or plain stupid), but I will go with you. Late August or early September sounds good, as it will be after SITR for me.

Wonder if I can rig this to work for the Spyder

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/27/can-you-really-beat-the-heat-with-a-20-d-i-y-air-conditioner-we-give-it-a-try/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=Share+Buttons

Great!! :doorag: 'Welcome aboard'. That's 4 of us. Would be nice to get at least one more.

We'll plan well and look out for each other. All should go well.

The air conditioner. Long ago knew someone that tried something similar on his "Bass Boat". Back when we would fish Lake Mead in the summer. Plenty of battery power, but still didn't flow enough air to make it worth while. :dontknow:

Blue Star
06-29-2013, 12:58 PM
Great!! :doorag: 'Welcome aboard'. That's 4 of us. Would be nice to get at least one more.

We'll plan well and look out for each other. All should go well.

The air conditioner. Long ago knew someone that tried something similar on his "Bass Boat". Back when we would fish Lake Mead in the summer. Plenty of battery power, but still didn't flow enough air to make it worth while. :dontknow:

Asked Katie if she wanted to go. She said NO!!

Jeriatric
06-29-2013, 01:08 PM
Asked Katie if she wanted to go. She said NO!!

Ah! We'll miss ya Katie. nojoke

Hey, may be another way if she wants to go. A gal friend of mine has offered to drive sag wagon. She's concerned because there's no cell service out there. That, and other reasons are why I'm hoping we have at least 5 spyder's.

Looking forward to doing and sharing in this new adventure :doorag: Should be memorable :thumbup:

Blue Star
06-29-2013, 01:25 PM
Ah! We'll miss ya Katie. nojoke

Hey, may be another way if she wants to go. A gal friend of mine has offered to drive sag wagon. She's concerned because there's no cell service out there. That, and other reasons are why I'm hoping we have at least 5 spyder's.

Looking forward to doing and sharing in this new adventure :doorag: Should be memorable :thumbup:

What is "sag wagon"?

Jeriatric
06-29-2013, 01:36 PM
What is "sag wagon"?

A cager that keeps everyone in sight and can offer assistance on an as needed basis. Might call it a big tool box and first aid station all rolled into one. Something we used a lot on challenging high heat rides back in my bicycling days.

Jeriatric
06-29-2013, 03:21 PM
Death Valley - 120
La Quinta - 119
Phoenix Az. -117
Las Vegas - 111


thank goodness it's dry heat :roflblack:

per THE WEATHER CHANNEL

finless
06-30-2013, 12:36 PM
So is the plan to ride out and back in the same day or plan to spend the night somewhere out there?

Bob

Desert Spyder
06-30-2013, 08:08 PM
Instead of an Ironbutt ride, it can be a Firebutt ride.

Thats a good one Steve. Great balls o fire!

Buttsy
06-30-2013, 08:34 PM
Death Valley - 120
La Quinta - 119
Phoenix Az. -117
Las Vegas - 111


thank goodness it's dry heat :roflblack:

per THE WEATHER CHANNEL

OMG...................not a place for me, just to frickin hot! :shocked: :shocked:

Jeriatric
07-01-2013, 10:22 AM
Something happened this weekend.

http://www.mydesert.com/article/20130630/NEWS08/306300002/Alan-Hogenauer-71-found-dead-after-hike-during-record-heat-wave

In light of this, and thinking of what could....... The group ride, as far as I'm concerned, is off.

That doesn't mean I will not be doing it. It just means I am willing to accept any risk on a personal level, but that's all.


Planned route:

La Quinta, Ca.
Ridgecrest, Ca.
South Trona, Ca.
Stovepipe Wells, Ca.
Beatty, Nv.
Indian Springs, Nv.
Las Vegas, Nv.
La Quinta, Ca.

finless
07-01-2013, 11:25 AM
So not that it is a official ride then. I can understand the concern.

Route is:
15, 395, 190, 374, 95, 15 home.

I have taken the 190 in a car and that could be fun on a spyder.... real curvy!

When is your plan to go? I may want to still hook up.

Bob

jerpinoy
07-01-2013, 12:09 PM
Bring back memories, I was stationed in NAS China lake for 3 years.

PeterPedro
07-01-2013, 02:04 PM
We get some real hot weather in UK! Sometime 30 degrees C, on a good day that's 13 in the morning and 17 in the afternoon

envious of your good weather




Ironman - Spyder Style

10 Day Forecast - °F Death Valley, Ca.



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Dates are flexible......we have all summer.

Don't miss your chance to win a FREE water bottle.

Blue Star
07-01-2013, 04:36 PM
Something happened this weekend.

http://www.mydesert.com/article/20130630/NEWS08/306300002/Alan-Hogenauer-71-found-dead-after-hike-during-record-heat-wave

In light of this, and thinking of what could....... The group ride, as far as I'm concerned, is off.

That doesn't mean I will not be doing it. It just means I am willing to accept any risk on a personal level, but that's all.


Planned route:

La Quinta, Ca.
Ridgecrest, Ca.
South Trona, Ca.
Stovepipe Wells, Ca.
Beatty, Nv.
Indian Springs, Nv.
Las Vegas, Nv.
La Quinta, Ca.


So not that it is a official ride then. I can understand the concern.

Route is:
15, 395, 190, 374, 95, 15 home.

I have taken the 190 in a car and that could be fun on a spyder.... real curvy!

When is your plan to go? I may want to still hook up.

Bob


We are not going to ride together? I think Redlands is in the center.

finless
07-01-2013, 08:45 PM
I think Jerbear is concerned about putting something this extreme together and someone possibly getting seriously dehydrated or dead. I can understand his concern and someone might blame him as the "unofficial" organizer. Ca. is very litigious! Again I can see his concern regardless.

But if he is going to make the ride and is just looking for company, I am in if the dates are right. I take full responsibility for myself.

But if that does not work out, we should all find a ride somewhere we all can get together!

Bob

Desert Spyder
07-01-2013, 11:00 PM
Look, more power to you guys for wanting to do this trip, but frankly, I wouldn't do it at these temps for a thrill. You have absolutely no protection out there if something happens. There are areas with no cell signals and even if you did send someone out to get help, if you didn't have shade and water you can be fried. I was in desert search and rescue for 13 years and I have personally seen the results of hyperthermia. Be practical and wait for the temps to come down 10-15 degrees at least. Even in Barstow, when I worked ambulance, I saw people pass out at the gas stations after getting out of their A/C cars. Remember, you will dehydrate quickly on a bike going 70 mph in 120 degree heat. How the bike behaves is anybodys guess. Ann M. from LV had a bunch of codes on a recent short trip in the heat. Just trying to give you guys my feelings but if you go, call or text someone back home your whereabouts frequently.

Jeriatric
07-01-2013, 11:43 PM
Look, more power to you guys for wanting to do this trip, but frankly, I wouldn't do it at these temps for a thrill. You have absolutely no protection out there if something happens. There are areas with no cell signals and even if you did send someone out to get help, if you didn't have shade and water you can be fried. I was in desert search and rescue for 13 years and I have personally seen the results of hyperthermia. Be practical and wait for the temps to come down 10-15 degrees at least. Even in Barstow, when I worked ambulance, I saw people pass out at the gas stations after getting out of their A/C cars. Remember, you will dehydrate quickly on a bike going 70 mph in 120 degree heat. How the bike behaves is anybodys guess. Ann M. from LV had a bunch of codes on a recent short trip in the heat. Just trying to give you guys my feelings but if you go, call or text someone back home your whereabouts frequently.


Desert Spyder, Your wisdom is well received.


A story my father shared with me about training in the Mojave Desert under Gen. Patton. They were being trained for combat in Africa.

The gentleman below....near the same age as my now deceased father, recounted the same exact story pop shared with me years earlier.

Thought you might find it interesting.

While training in the Mojave Desert in 1942, he and his fellow soldiers were put on a diet of canned sardines and fig bars. When stockpiles of these rations were delivered, they would bury them in the desert in hopes of getting something new added to their menu.

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20130526/COLUMN0807/305260034/A-man-s-road-World-War-II


Did they buildm different back then. Maybe, maybe not?

Only thing I do know......they were much younger......then ;)

Desert Spyder
07-02-2013, 06:41 AM
Desert Spyder, Your wisdom is well received.


A story my father shared with me about training in the Mojave Desert under Gen. Patton. They were being trained for combat in Africa.

The gentleman below....near the same age as my now deceased father, recounted the same exact story pop shared with me years earlier.

Thought you might find it interesting.

While training in the Mojave Desert in 1942, he and his fellow soldiers were put on a diet of canned sardines and fig bars. When stockpiles of these rations were delivered, they would bury them in the desert in hopes of getting something new added to their menu.

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20130526/COLUMN0807/305260034/A-man-s-road-World-War-II


Did they buildm different back then. Maybe, maybe not?

Only thing I do know......they were much younger......then ;)

Thanks for the article Jerry. It was a delight to read especially so near our nations birthday. :thumbup:

finless
07-02-2013, 07:53 AM
Did they buildm different back then. Maybe, maybe not?



Well, maybe they built them the same but with different expectations!

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?54832-Celebration-of-my-Dad-s-Life

Bob

Blue Star
07-02-2013, 02:43 PM
I think Jerbear is concerned about putting something this extreme together and someone possibly getting seriously dehydrated or dead. I can understand his concern and someone might blame him as the "unofficial" organizer. Ca. is very litigious! Again I can see his concern regardless.

But if he is going to make the ride and is just looking for company, I am in if the dates are right. I take full responsibility for myself.

But if that does not work out, we should all find a ride somewhere we all can get together!

Bob

:agree: and we can always make it (Death Valley ride) a night ride.

SpyderAnn01
07-04-2013, 05:56 PM
I don't know how I missed that this thread was about going to Death Valley. I say Hell Yeah I'm In! :roflblack: I'll be melting master cylinders, parking brake cables, boiling gas and who knows what else but I'm ready.

MidLifeCrisis
07-04-2013, 07:19 PM
I don't know how I missed that this thread was about going to Death Valley. I say Hell Yeah I'm In! :roflblack: I'll be melting master cylinders, parking brake cables, boiling gas and who knows what else but I'm ready.

That's the spirit.:D

Jeriatric
07-06-2013, 08:59 AM
So not that it is a official ride then. I can understand the concern.

Route is:
15, 395, 190, 374, 95, 15 home.

I have taken the 190 in a car and that could be fun on a spyder.... real curvy!

When is your plan to go? I may want to still hook up.

Bob

Like this route and found a possible meeting place. Just in case we all happen to be riding that way. :roflblack:

Have a date/time in mind?

From LQ, it's about 200 miles to the Mobil Station located - 4467 US Highway 395, Inyokern (http://www.mapquest.com/satellite-maps/inyokern-ca/), , CA (http://www.mapquest.com/satellite-maps/ca/)93527 (http://www.mapquest.com/satellite-maps/93527/) (it's located just North of where 395/14 intersect.

SpyderAnn is approx 250 miles from there.

Blue Star, approx 135 miles.

Didn't check mileage for you and TB....... best guess.....150 miles(+)

Six or seven AM at the Mobil Station?

Ideas and input.....from others who may just happen to be riding that way?

finless
07-06-2013, 09:34 AM
Google Maps is saying 176 miles (3 hours) for me to that location.
For me it is a split either to go I5 to the 14 or take I15 to the 395. I prefer the 395 route myself.
I assume Jerbear you would take the I15 to the 395 yourself knowing where your coming from?

For those that come the 395 route it would be good to meet at the I15/395 junction. There is a Pilot Travel center right there. Then we go from there to the 14/395 Mobile to meet up with others (1.5 hours from Pilot Center). That also would be turn around time for those that decide not to continue :)

4:30 AM at the pilot center is good for me. Then another 1.5 hours to the 14/395 junction mobile station to be there at 6:00.
Then it's another 3 hours to Beaty (be there at 9:00 AM) and another 2 hours to Vegas from there.
Total time to Vegas would be 8 hours give or take. Then as you know it is 4 hours from Vegas to home roughly.

We going to stop and stay somewhere before Vegas or just a full run to Vegas? I could probably make it to Vegas myself but I think after that, I would stay in Vegas or at the boarder (cheaper rooms) before heading home the next morning.

As for date, again for me late August or sometime in September.

Thoughts?

Bob

finless
07-06-2013, 09:41 AM
Here is a link to the google maps route for me.

448 mi, 7 hours 43 mins to LV


https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=7752+Hopi+Rd,+Stanton,+CA&daddr=34.3431367,-117.4512751+to:36.174907,-117.9778023+to:36.904373,-116.7657411+to:Las+Vegas,+NV&hl=en&ll=35.657296,-115.400391&spn=6.416231,8.887939&sll=34.468071,-117.734985&sspn=1.62805,2.221985&geocode=Fd6kAwIdu4L3-Cl5Vqij3SjdgDGNcYZJawU36A%3BFeAIDAId9dX_-CkLtHca1UPDgDGYUDtKbfGdag%3BFTv8JwIdNs33-Ck7w8L3VV7AgDGVaaQWa0kKvA%3BFbUdMwId00sK-SnBgCmLzJi4gDETYy72KZawoQ%3BFdYQJwIdMJoi-SnRffWkgre-gDGjebPV5tXMOg&oq=las&t=h&mra=dpe&mrsp=1&sz=9&via=1,2,3&z=7



Bob

Blue Star
07-06-2013, 09:45 AM
For those that come the 395 route it would be good to meet at the I15/395 junction. There is a Pilot Travel center right there. Then we go from there to the 14/395 Mobile to meet up with others (1.5 hours from Pilot Center). That also would be turn around time for those that decide not to continue :)

4:30 AM at the pilot center is good for me. Then another 1.5 hours to the 14/395 junction mobile station to be there at 6:00.


If I just happen to be riding that day ;) and happen to be at the I15/395 junction. I know I would have to get gas there, and most likely it would be around 4:30 in the morning.

Since the house is scheduled to be completed late Sept (9/27) I would most likely be riding in that area in the late August/early September time, as the Desert is so nice at that time of the year.

finless
07-06-2013, 09:48 AM
If I just happen to be riding that day ;) and happen to be at the I15/395 junction. I know I would have to get gas there, and most likely it would be around 4:30 in the morning.

Since the house is scheduled to be completed late Sept (9/27) I would most likely be riding in that area in the late August/early September time, as the Desert is so nice at that time of the year.

:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

It's not like we are planning anything official :ohyea:
Just people that might be in the area wanting a desert ride to Vegas :yes:

Bob

Jeriatric
07-06-2013, 09:54 AM
"4:30 AM at the pilot center I15/395 is good for me." Works for me too.

Go to Vegas or stop before? Either way works for me. Had Vegas in mind as the target stop myself, but, conditions could change that(cheap rooms :roflblack:). Not sure if I would lay over or just get a room rest up and head home after sunset?

Without doubt Ann will have the low down on places to stay.

;)

Jeriatric
07-06-2013, 10:06 AM
If I just happen to be riding that day ;) and happen to be at the I15/395 junction. I know I would have to get gas there, and most likely it would be around 4:30 in the morning.

Since the house is scheduled to be completed late Sept (9/27) I would most likely be riding in that area in the late August/early September time, as the Desert is so nice at that time of the year.

:roflblack: it is........... isn't it!!!!

Jeriatric
07-06-2013, 10:28 AM
If I just happen to be riding that day ;) and happen to be at the I15/395 junction. I know I would have to get gas there, and most likely it would be around 4:30 in the morning.

Since the house is scheduled to be completed late Sept (9/27) I would most likely be riding in that area in the late August/early September time, as the Desert is so nice at that time of the year.

Think I'll be passing through your area:roflblack:.......where's the best place to meet/fuel?

stevedfive
07-06-2013, 06:12 PM
71248 Went on a ride with Finless, Riverside was warm enough for me today.

Jeriatric
07-06-2013, 06:17 PM
71248 Went on a ride with Finless, Riverside was warm enough for me today.

A little warm out, eh!

Hey Bob(finless), what was yours reading?

You should start a high temp post. With one stipulation. Photos can not be submitted if temprature is the result of the spyder setting static.

finless
07-06-2013, 06:47 PM
Sorry I did not check temps but I would guess 90 for me. Difference is me being near the beach humidity was 70%

Bob

Jeriatric
07-06-2013, 06:51 PM
Sorry I did not check temps but I would guess 90 for me. Difference is me being near the beach humidity was 70%

Bob

Note photo.


71248 Went on a ride with Finless, Riverside was warm enough for me today.

finless
07-06-2013, 08:08 PM
Yes I saw his temp gage!
I posted about the ride in the Cali forum under the cooks corner post.

Bob

finless
07-06-2013, 09:09 PM
FYI I posted about Steve and I's ride here:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?54689-Cook-s-Corner&p=652620&posted=1#post652620

Bob

Blue Star
07-07-2013, 02:00 AM
71248 Went on a ride with Finless, Riverside was warm enough for me today.

Went to San Jacinto Friday, and had the same temp.

Jeriatric
07-07-2013, 04:51 PM
Went to San Jacinto Friday, and had the same temp.

You both beat me. Just got back from breakfast in Idyllwild, followed by a run off the mountain into Hemet(thought I was gong to San Juan Cap. today but, my back seater flamed out in Hemet. She was :bbq: by 11 am. Under the hood was only 98. :roflblack: So I got her cooled down and brought her back over the mountain, and home. Gonna have to pick my summer time back seater's more carefully :roflblack:

Highest under the hood on this side of the mountain was 113, but, it was only 108 just after 2pm here in LQ.

finless
07-07-2013, 06:49 PM
I have been wanting to do the idle wild roads!
If your looking for someone to do the full 74 and islewild roads let me know. I can ride to La Quinta early in the am and we can ride! I will go home via 74 all the way.

Bob

Jeriatric
07-07-2013, 07:16 PM
Take a look at this and see what you think. Meet in San Bernardino.....take 18 to Big Bear......pick up 38 and take it back down to I10. Then one of us would go West(to cool weather) and the other just peals off and heads East(to the furnace):roflblack:.

There are others here who would likely join us on this one. :thumbup:

Blue Star
07-07-2013, 07:39 PM
Take a look at this and see what you think. Meet in San Bernardino.....take 18 to Big Bear......pick up 38 and take it back down to I10. Then one of us would go West(to cool weather) and the other just peals off and heads East(to the furnace):roflblack:.

There are others here who would likely join us on this one. :thumbup:

I could go straight home :yes:

stevedfive
07-08-2013, 12:24 AM
I'm a maybe on that.

Jeriatric
07-08-2013, 11:06 AM
Yesterday we had a UV index of 11 - But it was only 108 in the shade("only" when compared to 115 or 120 and above).

Ridding in Levis. While it may be OK generally speaking. Something new happened yesterday.
Heat rash to the upper and inner thighs. Had nothing to do with Spyder heat. Was solely a consequence of radiant heat through my blue jeans(knew it was happening because it felt like a magnifying glass was concentrated on that area). Only took about two hours of exposure, but it has taken 18 hours for the redness to subside. Can tell you for certain that continued exposure(longer than the couple of hours) would have been a major problem.

Not sure if textile riding pants would have offered any better protection. Am relatively certain chaps would have.

Anyway, just a heads up if you have any intention of riding in, or through, our desert areas in the summertime.

Plan well.

TicketBait
07-08-2013, 11:55 AM
After reading all the talk about the inherent risks and danger of riding in "extreme heat", I am going to change my answer in post # 32 of this thread to the opposite answer. I may choose to ride to a specific destination, like Las Vegas sometime soon, (to Gamble and see a show) and will remember all the advice on clothing, hydration, but will stick to the twists in my neck of the woods with cooler temps. Say what you want, I can take it:opps::D

You All ride Safe!:cheers:

TB

Jeriatric
07-08-2013, 12:10 PM
After reading all the talk about the inherent risks and danger of riding in "extreme heat", I am going to change my answer in post # 32 of this thread to the opposite answer. I may choose to ride to a specific destination, like Las Vegas sometime soon, (to Gamble and see a show) and will remember all the advice on clothing, hydration, but will stick to the twists in my neck of the woods with cooler temps. Say what you want, I can take it:opps::D

You All ride Safe!:cheers:

TB

You'll hear nothing derogatory from me. Far from it.

The risks of riding in the desert southwest is misunderstood by most. Thus the reason for my post. It proved to me, what has worked well in the past may be less than sufficient another time. Not sure if yesterdays high UV made a difference, but suspect that played a major role.

Be safe on your trip to Vegas.

finless
07-08-2013, 03:23 PM
I think my spyder bit me in my ass after Steve and I's ride and more riding yesterday.
Last night I got a sever constant pain in my hip. I could not sleep at all. I could not find a comfortable position sitting or laying. It was so bad by this morning I drove myself to ER. I have only ever been in ER once before in my life. Pain is something I usually wait through especially since I knew this was some kind of pulled muscle! But this pain was absolutely Debilitating!

Diagnosis is Piriformas Syndrome. A Sciatic nerve issue. WTH?
I certainly hope spyder riding did not cause this. I think for sure I need to get the tall boy seat.

Needless to say now on drugs hoping it will go away soon. I am suppose to be on a airplane Thursday. I can tell you since I cannot sit more than about 10 minutes even while on pain killers, I wont be going if this is not better by then.

Again I hope spyder riding did not do this and if it did, what exercises should I do to not make it happen again?

Bob

Jeriatric
07-08-2013, 03:40 PM
I think my spyder bit me in my ass after Steve and I's ride and more riding yesterday.
Last night I got a sever constant pain in my hip. I could not sleep at all. I could not find a comfortable position sitting or laying. It was so bad by this morning I drove myself to ER. I have only ever been in ER once before in my life. Pain is something I usually wait through especially since I knew this was some kind of pulled muscle! But this pain was absolutely Debilitating!

Diagnosis is Piriformas Syndrome. A Sciatic nerve issue. WTH?
I certainly hope spyder riding did not cause this. I think for sure I need to get the tall boy seat.

Needless to say now on drugs hoping it will go away soon. I am suppose to be on a airplane Thursday. I can tell you since I cannot sit more than about 10 minutes even while on pain killers, I wont be going if this is not better by then.

Again I hope spyder riding did not do this and if it did, what exercises should I do to not make it happen again?

Bob

We're both the same height so I'll take a stab at your problem. No pun intended.

If you did much in the twisties you were putting pressure on your hips. I'm surprised you didn't mention having noticed a little cramping/discomfort in the hip area during the ride. But, if you weren’t hitting the twisties hard. That could be why. You do need to sit back more. My seat is two inches taller than stock and sets me back another two inches. The wide seating position of the spyder combined with poor saddle position is likely the culprit. That said, at times I can feel it in my hips, even tho I've made the above changes in ergonomics.

Hope you're feeling better very soon. Ouch :gaah:

TicketBait
07-08-2013, 05:03 PM
I think my spyder bit me in my ass after Steve and I's ride and more riding yesterday.
Last night I got a sever constant pain in my hip. I could not sleep at all. I could not find a comfortable position sitting or laying. It was so bad by this morning I drove myself to ER. I have only ever been in ER once before in my life. Pain is something I usually wait through especially since I knew this was some kind of pulled muscle! But this pain was absolutely Debilitating!

Diagnosis is Piriformas Syndrome. A Sciatic nerve issue. WTH?
I certainly hope spyder riding did not cause this. I think for sure I need to get the tall boy seat.

Needless to say now on drugs hoping it will go away soon. I am suppose to be on a airplane Thursday. I can tell you since I cannot sit more than about 10 minutes even while on pain killers, I wont be going if this is not better by then.

Again I hope spyder riding did not do this and if it did, what exercises should I do to not make it happen again?

Bob


I had what felt like a hip pointer when riding in the

beginning, I did stretches , drank lots of fluids and

ate bananas for potassium. My pain felt like a charlie

horse, is that what you experienced? I have now

built up stamina and riding muscles for just about

everything except extreme heat gets me tired more

quickly. I also have had various highway boards and

foot peg extentions to change my position. I loved

my seal boards as I got so use to riding the turns by

pushing down with my legs and feet to lock me in the

seat. (hope that makes sense)I noticed

when I would ride just with the stock foot pegs that I

placed allot more stress keeping me in the seat with

my knees doing more hugging of the bike in twisties.

TB

finless
07-08-2013, 07:10 PM
I would say I was hitting the twisties pretty hard for the first time. But I think hard is relative for me right now.
Also I might add that I started feeling a little discomfort in my hip last Wednesday but nothing bad. It was there all week slightly.
Once our twice before I did get a cramp in the side of my hip but more forward of where this pain is now. Once while riding it home from Indio, and another time riding home from work. This was all before Wednesday last week. The pain I have now is not the same as where I did get a cramp. I was able to get rid of the cramp by simply standing up on the pegs for a second or two.
What seemed to really set if off Sunday was I was on my feet a lot flying my RC Helicopters most the day Sunday. Late in the afternoon I could not stand the full 5 minute flight without this pain. But when I sat down it would subside. I finally had to quit flying and took a ride down the coast and up back home. I had no pain while riding. That night I couch potato'ed it and watched a movie with the wife. When I got up to go to bed, that's when I must have seriously pulled it more. The pain never stopped after that no matter sitting or laying. Standing or walking was near impossible with the pain!

Ticketbait, yes this pain is like a constant charlie horse or cramp. It's CONSTANT and I cannot even find a comfortable position to sit or lay in as it does not go away. Some positions I can lower the pain but it is there all the time since last night. It is in the rear of my right rear but cheek and run deep into my hip. Bottom line doc says it revolves around the lumbar on my back but is felt in the rear end due to the inflamed mussel that run from the back down into the hip and has a sciatic nerve in the middle of the muscle. I have had lumbar back nerve issues once in a while in my life but this is totally different. When I would have a nerve issue with my back, I could always find a position to sit or lay in and have no pain. Only time I would have pain is how I moved. This is completely different and so bad that this is why I took myself to ER. I thought it was something else wrong with me!

Doc said riding the bike might have done it but it could have been many factors as well. He could not tell me that was the cause. But I think because I am using mussels I have not used regularly before that this caused it.

Jerbear, I think I must invest in the seat, do exercises for this area, etc. I don't want this to ruin my fun with the spyder.

Bob

bhfromme
07-09-2013, 09:51 PM
I really want to see the west from our Spyder. So many roads, so little time...

finless
07-10-2013, 10:46 AM
Some of our roads out here can make the Dragon's tail or the Rattler look like straight roads ;)

Bob