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White Widower
06-21-2013, 03:57 AM
Hi, What an inspiring group of enthusiasts contributing here. I'm asking this for my non-computer savvy dad. About Dad: the youngest, funniest, most enthusiastic 88-year old EVER. Wounded badly in WWll but not immobile, old age is the culprit here. Rheumatoid arthritis causing hand and wrist pain and issues, neuropathy causing walking issues (numb feet), broken leg (near hip) surgery bungled causing walking issues and finally, vertigo causing balance roulette (never knows when it will kick in). He can't walk too far w/o a walker nor can he stand very long. He just purchased a 2008 SM5 with 2000 miles and is thrilled to be able to ride again. ( My sister and I are thrilled because we can only hear about his Norton and Indian and suicide shift about 2 more times.) He will need the hand brake and I'm pretty sure he will need the floorboards. Is there a rider here who transports a walker that can offer suggestions? Also due to the botched surgery, it is very difficult for him to get his leg over to get on the ride. Anybody got tips? Anything else you can suggest? Anybody in So. Cal? Thanks for your expertise. He's the greatest dad and we're so happy for him to be able to get on the road again! BTW, if you are in the area, he would love to pick your brain or just "shoot the breeze". I guarantee you will be very entertained by him. His home brew label is below (Tres Pendejos -"Home brew for the Homeboys") His name is Stan (but also answers to "Pendejo").

2 Cruysyn
06-21-2013, 05:44 AM
Also due to the botched surgery, it is very difficult for him to get his leg over to get on the ride. Anybody got tips?

Gave our neighbors a ride a couple weeks ago. Took some coaxing but since his wife and daughter-in-law returned in one piece I guess he figured he would too. He and his wife have a very clear view of 80 from both sides and had never been on a motorcycle let alone a Spyder even though their son and his wife ride. Daughter-in-law is looking real close at a Spyder of her own.

Anyway, our neighbor has knees that are not his own. Range of motion is not all that great so not only was it difficult he couldn't get his leg over in the traditional way. So, mounting from the left I had him put his right foot on the passenger foot rest and stand, which he was able to do, then sit sidesaddle as it were on the back half of the seat. Then it was just a matter of grabbing his leg and hoisting it over. If one happens to be the rider then I imagine scooting forward wouldn't be a problem.

White Widower
06-21-2013, 06:32 AM
Gave our neighbors a ride a couple weeks ago. Took some coaxing but since his wife and daughter-in-law returned in one piece I guess he figured he would too. He and his wife have a very clear view of 80 from both sides and had never been on a motorcycle let alone a Spyder even though their son and his wife ride. Daughter-in-law is looking real close at a Spyder of her own.

Anyway, our neighbor has knees that are not his own. Range of motion is not all that great so not only was it difficult he couldn't get his leg over in the traditional way. So, mounting from the left I had him put his right foot on the passenger foot rest and stand, which he was able to do, then sit sidesaddle as it were on the back half of the seat. Then it was just a matter of grabbing his leg and hoisting it over. If one happens to be the rider then I imagine scooting forward wouldn't be a problem.
Do you mean to scoot back to passenger seat? I think that is an excellent suggestion because he is tall 6'2" - well, that was before he shrank - another joy of aging! Let's call it 6ft+. Long legs don't seem to help especially. A step stool would be ideal to give that added boost. I found some folding ones online that are just one step. It could fit in the storage, but that went over like a lead balloon. Not interested. He's gonna work on stretching to help alleviate the cramp he gets from trying to get that leg over. He will definitely have to help the leg manually as your neighbor did. He's a tough bird mentally and physically and keeps quiet about his pain. He would probably put me up for adoption if he knew I shared his "ailments". He does not talk about them and has mentally healed himself of many things over the years - things that still have the docs scratching their heads . Thank you for taking the time with this excellent solution! BTW. how do you make new paragraph breaks in these forums?

NancysToy
06-21-2013, 07:02 AM
My wife cannot lift her right leg well, due to injuries and surgery. Her solution is to mount from the right side instead of the left. It seems unnatural, but the Spyder doesn't lean, so you can mount from either side.

bullant12
06-21-2013, 07:39 AM
First, :welcome: & :congrats:

I don't mean to sidetrack on this thread (and you can PM me if you want)... but my question:

Does Stan know what "Pendejo" REALLY means? (note: yes, it is a cuss word in Spanish, but in Spanish slang it is calling someone a fool. I will give out the CORRECT definition if requested...;))

RT Driver
06-21-2013, 07:50 AM
Seal floorboards would probably help him a great deal.

CyncySpyder
06-21-2013, 08:07 AM
My first thought was, Your dad got the wrong machine for his comfort and enjoyment :shocked: The RT has an upright seating position, unlike the leaned over sporty position of the RS, not to mention that the RT also comes with a full compliment of comort features such as adjustable windshield, heated grips, cruise control plus an audio system on the RT-AC/RT-S/Limited models among other comfort features not available from the factory for the RS. Also, having problems with arthritus, it would seem the SE5 Semi-Automatic transmission would've been a much more suitable fit for someone in his condition, just helping to eleminate variables without having to worry about shifting with a clutch :(

However, whats done is done & many of our site sponsors on the home page have numerous mods that can help make an RS much more comfortable and ryder friendly including Handlebar risers so he won't have to lean over so far, floor boards and highway pegs to give a better leg and foot position, larger & adjustable windshields to help buffet the wind and provide less turbulence, and backrests for back support on longer rydes, along with countless other upgrades to help.

You've found the :firstplace: site on the WWW for anything and everything Spyder Related, and we're glad you joined and hope to see some pics of your dad on his new to him Spyder :2thumbs:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64719&d=1363621102 (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/album.php?albumid=2698&attachmentid=64718)

ThreeFeet
06-21-2013, 08:20 AM
Hey SETH O were you at??? Your expertese could help here. If you haven't heard of Seth he's a parapalegic with an RS and a place for the wheel chair. Thought he would have put in his 2Cents worth by now. He has it figured out to the best way to put "stuff" on an RS. Hope your dad doesn't have problems with the shifting. (One of the reasons I got the semi automatic.) Good Luck on getting him all squared away and hope he has MANY years of fun ryding!!!

CyncySpyder
06-21-2013, 08:43 AM
Hey SETH O were you at??? Your expertese could help here. If you haven't heard of Seth he's a parapalegic with an RS and a place for the wheel chair. Thought he would have put in his 2Cents worth by now. He has it figured out to the best way to put "stuff" on an RS. Hope your dad doesn't have problems with the shifting. (One of the reasons I got the semi automatic.) Good Luck on getting him all squared away and hope he has MANY years of fun ryding!!!
pssssssttttt....hey ThreeFeet............ you know Seth jumped the RS ship and traded his RS at PitBulls durring this years SpyderFest for one of Len's sweet new ST's, right? ;)

But yeah, SethO is a great Enabled SpyderRyders Resource :bowdown: and here's a link to the Forum page as well
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?128-Enabled-SpyderLovers

lookerjdc
06-21-2013, 09:03 AM
exactly - track down SETH0 on the site - he can answer your questions

Some Guy
06-21-2013, 10:17 AM
pssssssttttt....hey ThreeFeet............ you know Seth jumped the RS ship and traded his RS at PitBulls durring this years SpyderFest for one of Len's sweet new ST's, right? ;)



Nope. Seth got another RS (black). ISCI didn't have a hand brake for the ST yet.

bullant12
06-21-2013, 10:30 AM
Nope. Seth got another RS (black). ISCI didn't have a hand brake for the ST yet.

:agree: Actually... Seth wanted a 2013 RS but the ISCI hand brake did not fit either so he went with the 2012.

CyncySpyder
06-21-2013, 10:34 AM
Nope. Seth got another RS (black). ISCI didn't have a hand brake for the ST yet.
:agree: Actually... Seth wanted a 2013 RS but the ISCI hand brake did not fit either so he went with the 2012.

:lecturef_smilie:nojoke I stand corrected nojoke:lecturef_smilie: That's just wrong in so many ways nojoke I need :helpsmilie:

White Widower
06-21-2013, 02:54 PM
First, :welcome: & :congrats:

I don't mean to sidetrack on this thread (and you can PM me if you want)... but my question:

Does Stan know what "Pendejo" REALLY means? (note: yes, it is a cuss word in Spanish, but in Spanish slang it is calling someone a fool. I will give out the CORRECT definition if requested...;))

He definitely knows the translation. It has many variations including another word for donkey. He's a hoot and tries not to take life too seriously. Thanks, though.

bullant12
06-21-2013, 03:01 PM
He definitely knows the translation. It has many variations including another word for donkey. He's a hoot and tries not to take life too seriously. Thanks, though.

:2thumbs: I like people with a sense of humor... especially when you name a brew "3 pu:cus:c hairs":roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

White Widower
06-21-2013, 03:51 PM
My first thought was, Your dad got the wrong machine for his comfort and enjoyment :shocked: The RT has an upright seating position, unlike the leaned over sporty position of the RS, not to mention that the RT also comes with a full compliment of comort features such as adjustable windshield, heated grips, cruise control plus an audio system on the RT-AC/RT-S/Limited models among other comfort features not available from the factory for the RS. Also, having problems with arthritus, it would seem the SE5 Semi-Automatic transmission would've been a much more suitable fit for someone in his condition, just helping to eleminate variables without having to worry about shifting with a clutch :(



You are so right about the model. He has been looking for one - an RT- for some time and the 3 San Diego area dealerships do not allow test drives. He didn't want to drop over 20K without a test spin. He had this one drop in his lap and was a great deal ( 2000 miles, tons of extras and upgrades, riding gear, and delivered). Love at first sight. My sister and I were upset but then we realized he has been making decisions for 88 years without our input. I can completely understand his "why not go for it" impulse. It really is a cool machine, He has already had his money worth in fun - and it has only been a month or two.. It is true...it puts a giant grin on your face! We realized that his favorite things to do are not possible anymore - hike, backpack, motorcycling, etc. so why not? The last time he did something so crazy was over 50 yrs ago. He and his buddy, both seasoned hikers, decided to hike from the lowest to the highest U.S. points (Death Valley to Mt Whitney) "just for fun". It took them 2 weeks and it turns out they were the very first documented hikers to do the grueling trek according to officials. Back to the bike, I know he will want the RT after he gets some miles under his belt. If/when he does find a RT, I am fully prepared to take the SE5 off of his hands. What a thoughtful daughter :D.,,

White Widower
06-21-2013, 04:00 PM
The word on the street is that this is the best Spyder owner forum and I am convinced it is. You took the time to help the newest convert (my dad via me) and we appreciate the excellent info and genuine warm welcome you have extended. My questions have probably been answered already somewhere here, so thank you for your considerable assistance. This is going to be a great time for dad. Very best regards.

White Widower
06-21-2013, 04:22 PM
:2thumbs: I like people with a sense of humor... especially when you name a brew "3 pu:cus:c hairs":roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
Great. As mentioned earlier, he is definitely fun and funny. Here's 2 of his other labels. I hope nobody is offended. It's not intended to be anything other than a grin. BTW, that's not him in the picture!

SethO
06-25-2013, 03:31 AM
I have seen people put their walkers on the back or they make a bracket on the non pipe side. I have a wheelchair bracket on my back seat and scotty has a very good idea with nancy getting on from the pipe side if it helps.

talk to anyone from isci about floorboards and a handbrake, they give a discount if your jacked up and anyone with basic mechanical knowledge can put it on in about 2 hours.

here is a video of how I do it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrmhU09R5UU


enjoy the ride.

SpyderAnn01
06-25-2013, 09:21 AM
You may want to check out Spyder Ryder of America - San Diego chapter on Facebook if you dad is looking for local riders.

White Widower
06-25-2013, 08:09 PM
You may want to check out Spyder Ryder of America - San Diego chapter on Facebook if you dad is looking for local riders.

Thanks, Ann. I looked on the Chapters list and didn't see San Diego. Thanks for the info!

White Widower
06-25-2013, 08:14 PM
I have seen people put their walkers on the back or they make a bracket on the non pipe side. I have a wheelchair bracket on my back seat and scotty has a very good idea with nancy getting on from the pipe side if it helps.

talk to anyone from isci about floorboards and a handbrake, they give a discount if your jacked up and anyone with basic mechanical knowledge can put it on in about 2 hours.

here is a video of how I do it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrmhU09R5UU


enjoy the ride.

Seth, thanks for the video and info. You obviously are a pro at it now. You must have some serious upper body strength. The video is ideal because one cannot imagine the process. You make it look easy and it most definitely is not! Very best regards.

micnugent
09-04-2013, 10:50 PM
I have CP and it effects my legs and I mount the RT by stepping on the passenger left footboard with my left foot then pivoting my foot and body. Then I grab my right cuff and pull my foot then leg over the rear seat. When dismounting I slide back into the passenger seat and sort of layback and swing my leg over the glove box. I just worry that I will rip the seat one day from scuffing my foot across the seat. Hope this helps a bit.

Doktor
09-05-2013, 08:10 PM
My wife had her right hip repaired just over a year ago. When I remind her, she will step up on the right driver floorboard, then swing her left leg over to the left driver's board, then scoot back into the passenger seat, then I can swing through with my right leg to the right side by stepping on the left floorboard, my hip was injured when we went down on my GL1800 and I tried to keep it from falling. It has worked for us very well.
The trick is to get the least injured limb to do the most work.


Doc

Henning
01-05-2014, 07:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy9G6Icmsgg
check out my video

Double Trouble
01-05-2014, 08:25 PM
Seth, thanks for the video and info. You obviously are a pro at it now. You must have some serious upper body strength. The video is ideal because one cannot imagine the process. You make it look easy and it most definitely is not! Very best regards.


Seth stayed at the same hotel as we did at the Spyder owners meet last June in Maggie Valley and we watched in awe as he hopped on his machine, swung the chair (with little effort, it seemed) up onto the rear of the Spyder, strapped everything down (including his legs) and roared off. Proved to us that there are no limitations if one puts their mind to the task.

Like Scotty's wife, Nancy, my wife Penny has limitations. Her right arm is paralyzed (from an encounter 35 year's ago with a ten ton truck cresting a hill on the wrong side of the road and her Suzuki GS 1000. The truck put my Suzuki, (riding in front) off the road but caught her machine almost broadside as she tried to hit the culvert on the right side. She also has leg damage but still rides her RT regularly and we take a lot of trips.

Penny mounts the Spyder from the left side by putting her right foot on the left peg. She then straightens up and places her left foot on the passenger's mount. She then swings her right leg over the Spyder in front of her body, rather than behind. She also has the ISCI handbrake installed. Even though she doesn't have use of the arm, her hand is fine once it is on the grip and she has enough strength to use the handbrake, although we had to change out the lever to get her more leverage.

At age 75, I have a long way to go to catch up to your dad but where there is a will there is a way.