PITBULL's new shock relocater kits.

[pitbull]

6107061071Our new brackets are going to production, it's taken a long time to develop, but we pulled it off, no drill of your frame or removal of your front trunk this bracket makes it simple and easy to instal and adds strength, with better handling and less swaying and gives you a smoother more predictable ride, also brings you up to part of the 2013 technology. Its designed to be run with elka's but yes you can run it with stock shocks, fits all 2012 RS and RT's and down and comes complete with all the hardware.:thumbup:
look for them on spyderelkadirect.com in just a few weeks! Should be ready by time to open the new PITBULL POWERSPORTS STORE!

look for Spyderlover testing and approval

[pitbull]

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[pitbull]

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[kevorama]

I'm first on the list to test them!

[blambert]

So im running 2011 RS Spyder with Baja ron antisway bar and 2011 RT front shocks. Does your new hardware improve performance from what I already have?

[mrfats]

Something more to think about!:banghead:

[my3gs]

Love it when something like this comes out i just tell her SAFETY dear its all about safty an give her them puppy dog eyes :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

[Erags]

Will the front end alignment need to be check after installing???

[Bob Denman]

Len,
If you need a tester in the NorthEast... :2thumbs:

[Y Rider]

Any idea what the sell price will be? Need to reprioritize my farkle funds. This mod will need to be high on the list. :thumbup:

[warp10]

Len, I think you are going to be busy installing these at Spyderfest, I want a pair. :yes:

[Bob Denman]

Me too! I'll even pre-pay for them... :2thumbs:

[warp10]

Me too! I'll even pre-pay for them... :2thumbs:


Gee thanks Bob, that was very kind of you to pay for mine. :yes:


just kidding :roflblack:

[Bob Denman]

Let's see what the cost will be first... but I'm not saying "No!" :D

Len???

[scooterexpress]

if bobs buying count me in too..thanks bob what a guy.:thumbup: now you really got to hide the reciept:roflblack:

[ulflyer]

A mid-atlantic tester is what Len needs. Warmish, still riding,
old coot to give other old coots the proper perspective on this gadget. Will be watching the mailbox!

[warp10]

Texas is the official test state. Just a quick ride across the state to test them out. Only 700+ miles :roflblack::roflblack:

[quickster47]

Tennessee has some awesome roads so I can't think of a better state for proper testing.

Carl

[BajaRon]

So im running 2011 RS Spyder with Baja ron antisway bar and 2011 RT front shocks. Does your new hardware improve performance from what I already have?

Yes... :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

Ron,
During the unauthorized :shocked: Farkling flurry around my garage; I find that I've got a set of Elkas waiting in the wings. With your Anti-Swaybar, the new shocks AND some of Len's handywork; do you think that I should back-off the preload on the shocks a bit? :dontknow:

[murphybrown]

Yep, Len...will have your guys install along with other service in April..when I ryde in for Spyderfest 2013. Have heard GREAT things about this "innovative" fix..Len, you are the guy when it comes to Spyder's, customer service and just living large. :clap:

[bmwlarry]

I will be your tester in Oregon! Put me on the list for first production run --- If you have one!

Cant wait!
Larry:yes:

[sergentwoody]

can we have front picture without trunk ?

[chris56]

61116 maybe you a tester here in the Alps ???

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Now THAT'S a road! :2thumbs:
We need a video of your Spyder working it's way down it! :firstplace:

[BajaRon]

Ron,
During the unauthorized :shocked: Farkling flurry around my garage; I find that I've got a set of Elkas waiting in the wings. With your Anti-Swaybar, the new shocks AND some of Len's handywork; do you think that I should back-off the preload on the shocks a bit? :dontknow:

Most find that they like the ride better with the shocks set to a lower position after installing the stiffer sway bar (stiffer for cornering, not for ride). It depends on why you stiffened them up in the 1st place. If you set your shock springs stiffer because of load then probably no. If you stiffened them up because of lean, most likely yes.

The Custom Sway Bar will take much of the duties in controlling dive and lean in corners allowing the shocks to be tuned for optimal suspension response in all conditions.

Not trying to speak for Len here but typically, standing the shocks up (as with Len's relocation bracket) will make any shock more effective and further reduce the need for a stiffer spring setting.

The main thing is to experiment with the adjustments on your shocks until you find the ideal setting. If you regularly change the loading of your Spyder by a fair amount you may have to experiment loaded and unloaded to find your ideal shock setting. But you will never have to adjust the Sway Bar.

I hope I'm not making it sound complicated because it isn't.

[DrewNJ]

Looks very nice.


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[Bob Denman]

Thanks Ron, I got it! :thumbup:
Once I get all of the parts off the ground and glued on the bike; I'll have to tinker a bit with them...

[Sarge707]

61073
I,m having a Hard time picturing this? Any chance of a Farther away front view? I,m sorta slow???:roflblack:

[Bob Denman]

Flip the pic around a bit... (Right side of it up to the top!) :thumbup:

[BajaRon]

Flip the pic around a bit... (Right side of it up to the top!) :thumbup:

Really Bob, you can't keep letting people take care of you like this!


http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd365/BajaRon/Spyder/ShockRelocate_zps16d4f35e.jpg?t=1359675865

[RAYYOU]

Put me on the list for a set.

[StriperKing]

What do these do to the ride height?

[kevorama]

Me too! I'll even pre-pay for them... :2thumbs:

Awesome! First round is on Bob :thumbup:

[Ronsam]

What about 2010 RT . They will fit ?:popcorn:





6107061071Our new brackets are going to production, it's taken a long time to develop, but we pulled it off, no drill of your frame or removal of your front trunk this bracket makes it simple and easy to instal and adds strength, with better handling and less swaying and gives you a smoother more predictable ride, also brings you up to part of the 2013 technology. Its designed to be run with elka's but yes you can run it with stock shocks, fits all 2012 RS and RT's and down and comes complete with all the hardware.:thumbup:
look for them on spyderelkadirect.com in just a few weeks! Should be ready by time to open the new PITBULL POWERSPORTS STORE!

look for Spyderlover testing and approval

[rcantrell52]

What about 2010 RT . They will fit ?:popcorn:

Yes, it will fit both RT and RS models.

Reese

[Ronsam]

THANKS , They look very good.:clap:


Yes, it will fit both RT and RS models.

Reese

[Ronsam]

Put me on the list for a set:clap:





6107061071Our new brackets are going to production, it's taken a long time to develop, but we pulled it off, no drill of your frame or removal of your front trunk this bracket makes it simple and easy to instal and adds strength, with better handling and less swaying and gives you a smoother more predictable ride, also brings you up to part of the 2013 technology. Its designed to be run with elka's but yes you can run it with stock shocks, fits all 2012 RS and RT's and down and comes complete with all the hardware.:thumbup:
look for them on spyderelkadirect.com in just a few weeks! Should be ready by time to open the new PITBULL POWERSPORTS STORE!

look for Spyderlover testing and approval

[Dochands]

Not sure I understand what these brackets do. I have Elkas on my RS. How will this improve or change my ride?

[soaring hawk]

Wen they are ready, order them up 2011 rt-s with Elkas . Spyderfest here we come:yes::clap:

[Bandit]

I've got this strange feeling that all of the vendors are going to be overwhelmed this year! :doorag:

[wa3wheels]

6107061071Our new brackets are going to production, it's taken a long time to develop, but we pulled it off, no drill of your frame or removal of your front trunk this bracket makes it simple and easy to instal and adds strength, with better handling and less swaying and gives you a smoother more predictable ride, also brings you up to part of the 2013 technology. Its designed to be run with elka's but yes you can run it with stock shocks, fits all 2012 RS and RT's and down and comes complete with all the hardware.:thumbup:
look for them on spyderelkadirect.com in just a few weeks! Should be ready by time to open the new PITBULL POWERSPORTS STORE!

look for Spyderlover testing and approval

Add me to bracket list. :)

[wyliec]

I,m having a Hard time picturing this? Any chance of a Farther away front view? I,m sorta slow???:roflblack:

I've got to agree with you; but, not on just this pic. which is actually a good one compared to others I've seen. I've seen many pics. where I'm left scratching my head wondering where exactly the part is located.

[Bob Denman]

Len,
Are you keeping a list of everybody who wants to be the first kid on the block with these?? :D :2thumbs:

[mcaccamise]

I am also wondering what these blocks will do to the ride height and also how will they interfear with the plastic lowers that the shocks are close to in stock position 2012 RSS.
It looks to me that the blocks lower the springs about one inch which would raise the front how would you level it back to front im asking as others have had the same questions?
Mike

[MarkLawson]

What is the material they are made of?

[NancysToy]

What is the material they are made of?
6061 aluminum, according to another post. I'm guessing T6.

[Bob Denman]

I'd be willing to say aluminum; but as to just which type... :dontknow:

[BajaRon]

Len will have to verify all of this but I do not believe that this will change ride height. The shock mount is moved both out and up. I think it should be a wash on the ride height.

Interference with the Tupperware and stock (Spring on top) shocks may be a different story. May require some minor surgery.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Len will have to verify all of this but I do not believe that this will change ride height. The shock mount is moved both out and up. I think it should be a wash on the ride height.

Interference with the Tupperware and stock (Spring on top) shocks may be a different story. May require some minor surgery.
I do believe it's quite feasible to just flip / reverse mount the shock ( if regular G/S - R/S - RSS 08 THRU 12 ). I did this on my GS a couple of years ago.....No difference in handling .......Mike :thumbup:

[NancysToy]

I do believe it's quite feasible to just flip / reverse mount the shock ( if regular G/S - R/S - RSS 08 THRU 12 ). I did this on my GS a couple of years ago.....No difference in handling .......Mike :thumbup:
You will lose the damping quite soon if you do so. The shock absorber oil passages and checks are made to work in one position. Resersing the shock usually renders them inoperable, and the oil all flows or is worked away from the reservoir. It all pumps to one end and cannot drain back.

[BajaRon]

You will lose the damping quite soon if you do so. The shock absorber oil passages and checks are made to work in one position. Resersing the shock usually renders them inoperable, and the oil all flows or is worked away from the reservoir. It all pumps to one end and cannot drain back.

What you meant to say, Scotty, is they won't work at all in the flipped position.:roflblack: Not to mention with all the oil at the wrong end, friction will destroy the internal working parts pretty quickly and flipping them back won't help at all.

[NancysToy]

What you meant to say, Scotty, is they won't work at all in the flipped position.:roflblack: Not to mention with all the oil at the wrong end, friction will destroy the internal working parts pretty quickly and flipping them back won't help at all.
Some of the automotive ones actually work for a short while, in particular the cheap 50/50 variety. Can't think of a better way to destroy a coil-over shock, however.

[BajaRon]

Some of the automotive ones actually work for a short while, in particular the cheap 50/50 variety. Can't think of a better way to destroy a coil-over shock, however.

I think what surprised me is that the poster did not notice a difference. I'm not going to flip my shocks to find out but there has to be a big difference, especially after a few hundred miles, unless the road surface is very smooth.

Looking forward to seeing you at Spyderfest!

[Bob Denman]

The only way that I'd flip a shock; is accidentally with the bike still attached to them properly! :yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:

[BajaRon]

The only way that I'd flip a shock; is accidentally with the bike still attached to them properly! :yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:

Some things you just need to leave alone! :yikes:

[Bob Denman]

61263 :shocked: :agree:

[pitbull]

The relocation brackets just simply take the top of the shocks both out and up with no major change in height, cause less leverage on your shocks therefor allowing you to soften your preload and if your on Elka stage one way plus or better Change your damping to tune your suspension to the max .

[kinggeek]

Has anyone asked how much yet - I have not seen a price yet.

[Bob Denman]

I did... we're all waiting for his calculator to stop grinding... :roflblack: :bbq::bbq:

[SpyRyd]

Has anyone asked how much yet - I have not seen a price yet.

I think $175.00...

[Bob Denman]

They'll cost... what they cost! :shocked: Hopefully it'll be an amount that a lot of us are interested in spending! :thumbup:

[pitbull]

R & D Can Cost $$$?nojoke


Cost wise the bracket will run about 199.00 retail but 179.00 will be the spyderlovers special rate. We are still a couple of weeks out on them and doing a test run fit of 11 brackets to ensure proper fitting. Once there out there we should be fully releasing them by the first of mark and will be doing free installs during SPYDERFEST.

[Bob Denman]

Please pencil me in on your dance card! :2thumbs: :ohyea::yes::yes:

[warp10]

Len, just saying, I have not gotten mine yet to do beta testing. :gaah:

[Trooper]

What you meant to say, Scotty, is they won't work at all in the flipped position.:roflblack: Not to mention with all the oil at the wrong end, friction will destroy the internal working parts pretty quickly and flipping them back won't help at all.

BINGO !! If the shock had an internal floating piston to separate the oil from the nitrogen gas, then it would not be an issue. If the customer is riding with his shocks upside down and hasn't noticed how bad of a ride he has, then.....I'm not sure what to say.:dontknow:

[JJW SpyderRider]

BINGO !! If the shock had an internal floating piston to separate the oil from the nitrogen gas, then it would not be an issue. If the customer is riding with his shocks upside down and hasn't noticed how bad of a ride he has, then.....I'm not sure what to say.:dontknow:

My old dealer was mounting the Elka's upside down. After complaints I think they started reading the directions. :opps:

[BajaRon]

My old dealer was mounting the Elka's upside down. After complaints I think they started reading the directions. :opps:

The ignorance level in regards to shocks, what they do, how they accomplish their duties and the different build designs is not surprising in the general population. A shock, even a cheap one, is not a simple mechanism.

But a dealership that doesn't know the difference is inexcusable. But, unfortunately, not all that uncommon. That is why a good dealership is sometimes difficult to find. It's easier to find a dealership that is money first and customer second.

[Bob Denman]

That's why it's up to us to gather up as much knowledge about these bikes as possible. :thumbup:

[Trooper]

That's why it's up to us to gather up as much knowledge about these bikes as possible. :thumbup:

That is the great thing about forums. Dealers could learn a heck of alot about the vehicles they sell as well as their customer base if they spent just a little bit of time here reading up. Unfortunately I don't think enough of them do.

[Sarge707]

That is the great thing about forums. Dealers could learn a heck of alot about the vehicles they sell as well as their customer base if they spent just a little bit of time here reading up. Unfortunately I don't think enough of them do.

Problem is Most BRP dealers would have to be active members of-
1-Spyderlovers.com
2-PersonalWatercraftToday.com
3-Snow Mobile.com???
4.Quad.com???
Some sell even more products!!!
(???)= Not sure about the Forum Name!
They work hard and need a Life Tooo?

[Bob Denman]

It might be... impractical for them to spend a lot of time in the forums; but they could always delegate! :2thumbs:

[scooterexpress]

what it boils down too is dealers don't have the manpower to have someone sit there everyday reading forums and second then they would have to come up with different excuses about whats wrong with your bike and why they can't fix it.just so they can piss us off and laugh as they walk away.true in some cases but not all.

[Trooper]

Problem is Most BRP dealers would have to be active members of-
1-Spyderlovers.com
2-PersonalWatercraftToday.com
3-Snow Mobile.com???
4.Quad.com???
Some sell even more products!!!
(???)= Not sure about the Forum Name!
They work hard and need a Life Tooo?

Agreed. Its just not possible for them to be able to take that time, however I have read more than on one occasion situations of dealers brushing off customers who do the research in advance on forums like this to help the initial diagnosis. Not all dealers seem to be willing to ​listen.

[scooterexpress]

Agreed. Its just not possible for them to be able to take that time, however I have read more than on one occasion situations of dealers brushing off customers who do the research in advance on forums like this to help the initial diagnosis. Not all dealers seem to be willing to ​listen.

yep my dealership was that way at first then i went to the g.m. and said hey look..just trying to help..now hes told me when something is that important to email him first before coming in and he would see to it the the maintenence dept would read up on it through buds.and they have kept there word on it..

[GRIPMAN]

Include me for a set,ASAP

[Chupaca]

Looking forward to the first production, hope there will be enough to go around..:popcorn:

[mcaccamise]

Looking for a set of the new brackets are they available yet? i would like to try them on with the new Elkas 2012 RSS.
mike

[spydercoach]

You beat me to the punch:sour: Oregon roads are so much different than anywhere in the world that I'm sure he should have two testers out here:yes:

[ThreeWheels]

Are these brackets available yet ?
I didn't see them at the Elka Direct website, but some vendors announce their products here before they post them on their websites.

[Bob Denman]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_11_4.gif (I think that this is a PitBull PewerSports product; no official connection with Elka...)

[Netminder]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_11_4.gif (I think that this is a PitBull PewerSports product; no official connection with Elka...)
If I am not mistaken Bob, Len is in charge of Elka Direct and that is where these brackets will be available. :thumbup: At least I think??

[Bob Denman]

Good question... :thumbup:
the answer... :dontknow:

[YPILOT]

6107061071Our new brackets are going to production, it's taken a long time to develop, but we pulled it off, no drill of your frame or removal of your front trunk this bracket makes it simple and easy to instal and adds strength, with better handling and less swaying and gives you a smoother more predictable ride, also brings you up to part of the 2013 technology. Its designed to be run with elka's but yes you can run it with stock shocks, fits all 2012 RS and RT's and down and comes complete with all the hardware.:thumbup:
look for them on spyderelkadirect.com in just a few weeks! Should be ready by time to open the new PITBULL POWERSPORTS STORE!

look for Spyderlover testing and approval

post # 1 :D

[Bob Denman]

I interpreted that to mean that it's a PitBull PowerSports part...
"Designed to be run with Elkas"

[YPILOT]

IMHO I think Len designed them for all pre 2013 Spyders to take advantage of the 2013 shock geometry.
It gives the shock a little more leverage by changing the angle that it works at, which makes it more efficient.
This should improve any Spyder/shock combination. As you know Spyders go better with Elka's.

[ulflyer]

Will be interested to see if the shock relocation offers additional benefit to machines already fitted with Elkas and Ron's Anti-Sway bar.

[Bob Denman]

Me too! :agree: :thumbup:

[Venym]

Waiting for reviews from owners:popcorn::popcorn:

[flybuddy]

Anything new on the shock relocater kit?

[Bob Denman]

SpyderFest 2013... :thumbup: :bbq::bbq:

[ThreeWheels]

SpyderFest 2013... :thumbup: :bbq::bbq:

I'm not going to Spyderfest. Too damn far away.
Will I have to wait for SITA in August ?
By then, I may have convinced myself that the RonBar is adequate by itself.

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: (keep in mind that he's busier than a one-armed paper hanger dduring a hurricane right now...)
You're gonna have to give him a call...
But you might be the first kid on your block with a set of them! :ohyea::ohyea:

[flybuddy]

SpyderFest 2013... :thumbup: :bbq::bbq:

I'm going, but I hate to test them for 1400 miles coming back home.

[va2djd]

Ready to test them if there made by elka I'm close to the shop so if you want a tester I'm there Montreal

[jthornton]

But a dealership that doesn't know the difference is inexcusable. But, unfortunately, not all that uncommon. That is why a good dealership is sometimes difficult to find. It's easier to find a dealership that is money first and customer second.

I found out the hard way about our local Honda dealer service department. They can't even change a tire on a GW without killing the TPM sending unit and don't have a clue what the yellow dot is on the tire... I'm amazed they got them on facing the right way. In any case it cost me $300 to get my GW fixed after the local dealer changed my tires. At least I found a professional Honda service department at the Jonesboro Honda dealer.

John

[Shewhoprays]

Well add me to the list. i need all the help I can get for a nice smooth ryde. :yes::yes: