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SGSpyderGirl
11-29-2012, 09:52 AM
I just got my spyder on monday night and its an 2008 and we noticed that it is making a whining sound when backing up and even when just rolling back on its own (no brake applied). Does any one have any suggestions on what it could be or what I should do?

I am not sure what condition the previous owner kept it in, it only has 7K miles roughly on it and i bought it from a car dealership who had it as a trade along with a Chevy SSR it came with so i doubt it was worked on or moved once on the show room floor because they didnt know much about it to begin with, I think I knew more hah. Didnt know if its because it had been sitting for a while and not moved or what.

Any insight or suggestions would be great!

asp125
11-29-2012, 10:25 AM
Spyders don't like to be rolled backwards, it makes them cry. :)

Mine too, as do many others here. :gaah: something to do with the brakes dragging. I just try to get it over with as quickly as possible.

SGSpyderGirl
11-29-2012, 10:58 AM
Spyders don't like to be rolled backwards, it makes them cry. :)

Mine too, as do many others here. :gaah: something to do with the brakes dragging. I just try to get it over with as quickly as possible.

so i have to deal with the noise then huh :sour: thats going to suck

Bob Denman
11-29-2012, 11:01 AM
Brakes dragging seems to be the most logical answer... :gaah:
You could pull the pins out of the rear caliper, clean and lube it and see if that helps.
Otherwise; the newer 3rd generation brake pads seem to cut down on the whining a lot too! :thumbup: While the pins are out; just drop them in!

Or are you backing over anybody's foot? :shocked: THAT might be the cause! :roflblack:

asp125
11-29-2012, 11:02 AM
so i have to deal with the noise then huh :sour: thats going to suck

Someone here has McGuyver'd a fix. I'll see if I (or another member) can find the link.

{edit} Here it is -> http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?13434-BACK-UP-BRAKE-SQUEAK-SOLVED&highlight=brake

SGSpyderGirl
11-29-2012, 11:13 AM
Brakes dragging seems to be the most logical answer... :gaah:
You could pull the pins out of the rear caliper, clean and lube it and see if that helps.
Otherwise; the newer 3rd generation brake pads seem to cut down on the whining a lot too! :thumbup: While the pins are out; just drop them in!

Or are you backing over anybody's foot? :shocked: THAT might be the cause! :roflblack:

haha as far as I know neither myself or the BF has backed over anyones foot yet...but I just talked to him and he thinks its something in the transmission he is feeling. He has been the only one to actually backed it up a good length. We put in a call to a can am tech to see if they have a suggestion or have seen it.


Someone here has McGuyver'd a fix. I'll see if I (or another member) can find the link.

okay great i appreciate it, i tried searching but couldnt find anything so i figured i would ask


We are also going through an issue with the parking brake, when we first saw the bike they had to slam into the pedal to get it to release and common sense tells you there is something wrong when you have to do that to anything, so we have to figure out if the whole thing is shot or something needs to be adjusted, they said the owner was having the same problem and just said to slam down on it... yeah good solution, some people make me wonder :sour:

asp125
11-29-2012, 11:20 AM
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We are also going through an issue with the parking brake, when we first saw the bike they had to slam into the pedal to get it to release and common sense tells you there is something wrong when you have to do that to anything, so we have to figure out if the whole thing is shot or something needs to be adjusted, they said the owner was having the same problem and just said to slam down on it... yeah good solution, some people make me wonder :sour:

Sounds like the parking brake cable might be stretched, or needs adjustment. At least that's been my experience with cars, when the parking brake has to be yanked tight. FWIW I usually put the Spyder in gear when stopped (a habit from motorcycles), and apply the parking brake normally without having to stand on it.

SGSpyderGirl
11-29-2012, 11:27 AM
Sounds like the parking brake cable might be stretched, or needs adjustment. At least that's been my experience with cars, when the parking brake has to be yanked tight. FWIW I usually put the Spyder in gear when stopped (a habit from motorcycles), and apply the parking brake normally without having to stand on it.

Yeah thats what we figured we would start doing is leaving it in gear. It was just sad to see people having to literally jump on it to get it to release so we could test drive it SMH

jerpinoy
11-29-2012, 11:59 AM
After you tried all the make sense suggestions of our members and still no fix then I suggest to check with your dealer (BRP) Good luck.:yes: Persistance makes a person more confident.

ARtraveler
11-29-2012, 01:48 PM
RE: parking brake. The cable has to be adjusted because someone stretched it by slamming it down to far. When adjusted properly, two or three clicks should hold the parking brake in the lock position. A slight pressure on the pedal will then release it.

I had a 2008 GS SM5 and a 2009 RS SE5. I never used the brake set up on the 2008 because I would leave the bike in gear. Another story on the 2009 SE5. The driver was always over stepping the brake and it got to the point where it had to be adjusted every other week or so.

NancysToy
11-29-2012, 03:25 PM
Brake squeal is the usual cause, although on an RT belt squeal can be fierce. Brake squeal can be reduced by keeping the parking brake adjusted, the brakes free of dust, and the rotors clean (with brake parts cleaner). Good hard application of the brakes repeatedly from 45-50 mph periodically, can break any glaze buildup on the pads and help quiet things down. Dismantling of the brakes and applying CRC Disc Brake Quiet to the back of the pads, then lubricating the o-rings where the sleeves slide with brake caliper lube can also help. The best cure is to replace the pads with the BRP Gen 3 pads or the EBC pads (and optionally the rotors) from BajaRon, a site sponsor here. Nothing is likely to completely eliminate noise in reverse, especially in a humid climate or with wet brakes, especially in the morning before the brakes have been heated by use, but any or all of the steps should help, and they will certainly help with noise when the brakes are applied moving forward.

SGSpyderGirl
11-29-2012, 03:55 PM
BF just got off the phone with a local Can Am Dealer in my area and the mechanic told him to bring it buy and he will look at it at no charge. He said sounds like the dealer and the previous owner did a number on the parking brake and its shot so it will need to be replaced but said the part is relatively cheap and easy for even us to do. The squealing he said might be a recall on the power steering he saw when he looked up my vin, but either way he wanted to just look at it to make sure. I hope its as simple as upgrade in the brakes hah

SGSpyderGirl
11-29-2012, 03:57 PM
Brake squeal is the usual cause, although on an RT belt squeal can be fierce. Brake squeal can be reduced by keeping the parking brake adjusted, the brakes free of dust, and the rotors clean (with brake parts cleaner). Good hard application of the brakes repeatedly from 45-50 mph periodically, can break any glaze buildup on the pads and help quiet things down. Dismantling of the brakes and applying CRC Disc Brake Quiet to the back of the pads, then lubricating the o-rings where the sleeves slide with brake caliper lube can also help. The best cure is to replace the pads with the BRP Gen 3 pads or the EBC pads (and optionally the rotors) from BajaRon, a site sponsor here. Nothing is likely to completely eliminate noise in reverse, especially in a humid climate or with wet brakes, especially in the morning before the brakes have been heated by use, but any or all of the steps should help, and they will certainly help with noise when the brakes are applied moving forward.

thanks for the info, if thats all it is we will just upgrade them... but this whining is pretty obnoxious and doesnt seem to be coming from the break portion of the bike :sour:

asp125
11-29-2012, 04:24 PM
Keep us posted on the outcome. I've held off doing a DIY fix if a dealer solution with stock parts will cure the squealing.

NancysToy
11-29-2012, 04:49 PM
BF just got off the phone with a local Can Am Dealer in my area and the mechanic told him to bring it buy and he will look at it at no charge. He said sounds like the dealer and the previous owner did a number on the parking brake and its shot so it will need to be replaced but said the part is relatively cheap and easy for even us to do. The squealing he said might be a recall on the power steering he saw when he looked up my vin, but either way he wanted to just look at it to make sure. I hope its as simple as upgrade in the brakes hah
The power steering on the Spyder is electric, and won't squeal...but you should get the steering recall done ASAP. Problems with the first generation of steering boxes caused them to have to be replaced. For your safety, you should bring it in.

SGSpyderGirl
11-30-2012, 09:06 AM
The power steering on the Spyder is electric, and won't squeal...but you should get the steering recall done ASAP. Problems with the first generation of steering boxes caused them to have to be replaced. For your safety, you should bring it in.

Yeah agreed, might as well get it done even if there is no problem. Im just surprised the old owner didnt keep up on that stuff because to me thats a major but then again I take very good care of my vehicles so i get the most out of them.
We are dropping it off today at Noon to have the recall done and the dealer said they would check everything else out and then let us know what to do from there (ie: parts, etc). Ive heard alot of good things about this dealer and they didnt right away jump the gun in wanting to take our money for the repairs, the mechanic is going to offer his advice on parts and then tips on what to do and let us decide if we want to fix them or let them do it, so we will see how difficult or time consuming it is.

ARtraveler
11-30-2012, 02:12 PM
I neglected to say: :welcome: and :congrats: on the new ryde.

Bob Denman
11-30-2012, 02:34 PM
[QUOTE=SGSpyderGirl;545321]We are dropping it off today at Noon to have the recall done and the dealer said they would check everything else out and then let us know what to do from there (ie: parts, etc).


The Best of Luck to you! Please let us know what happens next! :thumbup:

SGSpyderGirl
11-30-2012, 03:32 PM
I neglected to say: :welcome: and :congrats: on the new ryde.

Thank you :)


[QUOTE=SGSpyderGirl;545321]We are dropping it off today at Noon to have the recall done and the dealer said they would check everything else out and then let us know what to do from there (ie: parts, etc).


The Best of Luck to you! Please let us know what happens next! :thumbup:

Thanks and will do!

Arthur---Mexico
12-01-2012, 11:09 AM
I heard that whinning sound when I backd up my Spyder the other day. It truned out to be my cat that I ran over. Then there was more whinning when my wife got throguh with me.


I just got my spyder on monday night and its an 2008 and we noticed that it is making a whining sound when backing up and even when just rolling back on its own (no brake applied). Does any one have any suggestions on what it could be or what I should do?

I am not sure what condition the previous owner kept it in, it only has 7K miles roughly on it and i bought it from a car dealership who had it as a trade along with a Chevy SSR it came with so i doubt it was worked on or moved once on the show room floor because they didnt know much about it to begin with, I think I knew more hah. Didnt know if its because it had been sitting for a while and not moved or what.

Any insight or suggestions would be great!

Paula(Butch2025)
12-01-2012, 01:12 PM
We had a whining when rolling it backwards and replaced the belt...no more noise. So you might need to change the belt.

SGSpyderGirl
12-07-2012, 02:54 PM
Well I got the spyder back today and it looks like the previous owner did NO maintenance to it and the dealership didnt even look at it mechanically wise or the following would have been caught:



Did a 2010 recall for the power steering
Had really low brake fluid
Brakes needed to be greased and suggested to upgrade them soon since they were the original stocks and they looked like they were ridden hard
Barley had any oil in it, wasnt even touching the dip stick. Looked like the guy ran it for 7K miles without ever doing an oil change
Other fluids were very low, so he topped them all off
The parking brake was completely trashed, he couldnt even adjust it to bring it back to full use so we had to order a whole new assembly.
Has an exhaust leak and the seals need to be replaced


And all i paid for was the new parking brake which was 11 bucks and whatever the seals will cost me. So the dealer did me a great favor, since the dealership where i got it from didnt look over it at all.

asp125
12-07-2012, 03:13 PM
Well, sounds like your dealer is a good one. :thumbup:

spyder3
12-07-2012, 03:24 PM
did you take it to J & J? CJ & Jim?

SGSpyderGirl
12-08-2012, 04:48 PM
did you take it to J & J? CJ & Jim?

Yeah I did take it to J&J and CJ was the one who worked on it

DrewNJ
12-08-2012, 06:32 PM
J&J are good peeps. :thumbup: That is where I bought mine and they have done mine, and my friends spyder services so far.

SGSpyderGirl
12-18-2012, 07:42 AM
Replaced the parking brake with the upgraded piece and what a huge different and with the new part the teeth are rounded not squareish as the other one was. Also with the old stock one you could see where it was shaved down where they had been stomping the crap out of it for so long. Its amazing how little pressure you need to set it and release it now i would definitely suggest that for any of the old spyders with parking brake problems like I was having.

Bob Denman
12-18-2012, 08:32 AM
Glad to hear that your dealer has you back up and running! :thumbup:
It sure sounds like CJ did a real thorough job of inspection to the bike! :firstplace:

asp125
12-18-2012, 10:39 AM
But, does it still whine?

dflanagan21
08-11-2013, 08:57 PM
Big #1 Motorsports in Birmingham, AL fixed my backing up whining issue.
There are 3 places in the rear that need to be silicone greased. Fixed the
problem. Sounds great now.

Questions
10-23-2013, 12:43 PM
Here is the solution directly from Dennis at BRP service dept. This was copied and pasted from the Dealer Community website.

http://brp.i.lithium.com/skins/images/04D2E9DDB07B5381E66D8776392DD240/base/images/message_type_solution.png Re: LOUD GROANING FROM REAR WHEN BACKING UP?








The groaning of the rear brakes can be reduced by chamfering the pad edges, utilisation of the new style pad with the isolator backing plate, proper parking brake adjustment and maintaining a clean caliper and brake disc surface. Isolating the tone wheel from the disc has also helped in some circumstances. Isolating the transfer of the resonance from the pads slightly contacting the disc surface, which creates a more harmonic noise is key to reducing the noise. Because of the pad material it is difficult to completely eliminate the noise and therefore can be heard on numerous units at different decibel levels depending on the condition of the disc, pads etc. How the vehicle is operated can also increase or decrease the level of noise generated. Brp is aware of the complaints by customers but in order to offer the best braking performance available in forward motion, the rearward motion howl cannot be completely eliminated without affecting braking performance.

KX5062
11-16-2013, 10:35 AM
On mine it was a combination of brake pad squeal and the belt being too tight. Once I loosened the belt as per another thread here the noise was reduced dramatically.

Bob Denman
11-16-2013, 06:27 PM
When you loosened up your belt's tension; did you notice any changes in if it's setting up harmonic vibrations or not? :dontknow:

KX5062
11-17-2013, 11:36 AM
When you loosened up your belt's tension; did you notice any changes in if it's setting up harmonic vibrations or not? :dontknow:

I noticed that is was much improved. The belt was the original 2008 specs, which is insanely tight. I used the directions in the Krikit thread and it made a major difference in shifting too. It was clearly loading up the transmission and output shaft to large degree due to the excessive pressure.

No harmonic issues at all. However, I was extremely careful to loosen the belt equally from side to side, so I didn't cock it up.

Tazzel
12-21-2013, 12:11 AM
If people are around I slightly apply the brake a I back it up, it stops the noise.