Ever been pulled over for too many white lights in front?

[Sumners2]

We got pulled over tonight for having too many white lights in the front. He said we could only have 4 white lights and told us we would have to go back to the dealer and have them replace the white lights on the fenders with amber lights. And we can never use our fog lights here. We had some other LED lights put underneath the bike and the strip lights over the fenders. He said the fender lights could remain but all others had to go. The LED fender lights are amber in the front and red in the back.
My thought is the white fender lights are there to show the width of the front so someone doesn't clip one of the wheels.

[effgjamis]

How about a 2nd opinion.?

[mastertek2000]

some laws are stupid that cop had to much time on his hands

[fastfraser]

The laws are all over the place . Most are 4 front facing white lights with clearance/ marker lights in amber, rear facing lights in red and amber .Did you have your under body lights on ? Up here any type of under body light is a no no. I know I run with the white fender tips, fender strip lights in white front and red back as well as the day runners on the A arms all the time - 4 years now and it has never been an issue . I think LEO was having a bad day . I would also check your state laws with regards to lighting on a motorcycle .:dontknow:

[boborgera]

When Jersey had Auto inspections more than 4 lights, ie two sets of fog lights ''etc'' would be an automatic failure, And there still illegal, Unless there coved.
It's a good law, Did you ever have some Ya ho with 7 sets of fog lights blinding you? :gaah:

[DocRags]

Wow, that is weird...not being able to use your fog lights ever?! There's no sense in that one at all. (I'm with Forrest...time for a second opinion). We've had all sorts of lights on our fenders, as well as running our fog lights and head lights (all surrounded by halo LEDs), without any problems. Guess we better stay in UT (I'm guessing you were at home since you referred to "here" in your post). I'm with the others...that policeman had WAY too much time on his hands.

[harrypottar]

I'm no lawyer but I always thought that they could only make you removed/alter after market lights.

OEM lights that our factory installed have been approved for sale in the USA, hence you fender tip lights and fog lights should be good as is.

I would just mount a switch to turn the LED's off while your local.

Agian I'm no expert I have never sued anyone but I would have thought that telling someone they can not use the fog lamps is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Imagine being in an accident in the fog then saying I was not allowed to use my fog lights, if I had I could have avoided the accident.

Not sure who you would ask but I agree with the second opinion


Harry

[Bob Denman]

Somehow we all knew that this just HAD to happen... :gaah: About the time you get them looking nice, somebody pulls the plug on the project...:sour:
I agree that a clarification of this law is in order. Please let us know whatyou find out!

[SpyD2]

When Jersey had Auto inspections more than 4 lights, ie two sets of fog lights ''etc'' would be an automatic failure, And there still illegal, Unless there coved.
It's a good law, Did you ever have some Ya ho with 7 sets of fog lights blinding you? :gaah:


I know that under lighting is illegal in NJ, but what do you think about the GloRyders? What do you think the chances are of getting pulled over?

[Grandpa Spyder]

I know that under lighting is illegal in NJ, but what do you think about the GloRyders? What do you think the chances are of getting pulled over?

If your Glo Ryders are blue, you can be sure you will be pulled.

[SpyD2]

If your Glo Ryders are blue, you can be sure you will be pulled.


Good to know. Thank you

[NitroCircus Spyder]

Wow....so sorry! I live here in TX and have blue leds all over my bike and have never been pulled over. But I did have a master switch installed in my dash so I can turn off all at the same time. Just for that reason, in other states you just never know and it's something I would rather avoid! That really sucks! We just want to be seen and be more visible on the road.

[Bob Denman]

Basically here in New York all that they want to see are headlights, foglights, amber running lights up front, and red lighting out back... Deviate from this format and you're on your own! :gaah:

[wyliec]

Basically here in New York all that they want to see are headlights, foglights, amber running lights up front, and red lighting out back... Deviate from this format and you're on your own! :gaah:

I asked my son-in-law (NYS Trooper) about the white lights on the A-arms being legal. He said his time could be better spent elsewhere rather than pulling over a m/c with too many lights; but, no red facing forward. Also, asked him about the db of mufflers and he said they have no way to check and unless they were doing something wrong he wouldn't waste his time.

[Sumners2]

How about a 2nd opinion.?

Yes! I plan to go to pursue this further. It was during a wild sand storm that had just whipped up and we were headed home from dinner. Visability was, at times, limited. We live near St George, UT.

[Neutron12]

I was told the same thing about my led's not fog lights.

I wouldn't listen to them and i keep using them.

I would just take the ticket and move on.

[billybovine]

If anyone on this board works in the automotive parts industry maybe you can get access to FMVSS (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard). Most companys subscribe to a service to get specs and standards. The engineers and quality assurance people should be able to get access. This is the standard that all US vehicles must meet. I am curious what it says. It has been 14 years since I looked at the standard. Sorry I don't remember much detail.

[Sumners2]

We didn't get a ticket nor a warning. Just a verbal warning. I think he was just curious and wanted to get an up close look!

[Blue Star]

If your Glo Ryders are blue, you can be sure you will be pulled.

In California Red on your wheels will get you pulled over too. I got those valve stem lights that are sold for kids bikes. was really cheep, and looked good. Problem was LEO did not like it.

[acinpcola]

Here is a link for the FL Statute concerning lights: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0300-0399/0316/Sections/0316.2397.html

Be Safe
AC:spyder2:

[JJW SpyderRider]

I've noticed that many of the new cars come with rows of LED lights up front now. If the factory selling the LED light I think our Spyders are safe with some extra LED light up front withing reason. More then four white lights (head and fog lights) up front would be too many but count the fender tips as a pair of forward facing white lights equal to fog lights is a bit of a stretch. :dontknow:

[bruiser]

If your Glo Ryders are blue, you can be sure you will be pulled.

Been running blue GloRyders for two years, never been stopped. Got a thumbs up one night from a deputy. As long as they're not forward facing, no problem. In fact, first on the order list for my '12 RTS is fender LEDs and tips from Reggie. Will get red Gloryders also when cash permits. We also run with the fogs on all the time, they're really not that strong, somewhat of a dissapointment for the cost, but more visability for oncoming traffic anway. Each state is different and no way can anyone know all the laws concerning lighting from all states.

[MikeinGA]

We got pulled over tonight for having too many white lights in the front. He said we could only have 4 white lights and told us we would have to go back to the dealer and have them replace the white lights on the fenders with amber lights. And we can never use our fog lights here. We had some other LED lights put underneath the bike and the strip lights over the fenders. He said the fender lights could remain but all others had to go. The LED fender lights are amber in the front and red in the back.
My thought is the white fender lights are there to show the width of the front so someone doesn't clip one of the wheels.

I have amber in my front fender marker. I got the led bulbs at www.superbrightleds.com (http://www.superbrightleds.com) . I use the 4 led T10 wedge base blub, product id (wleb-x4 bulbs in amber) and there 1.59 per bulb.

Mike

[Grandpa Spyder]

Been running blue GloRyders for two years, never been stopped. Got a thumbs up one night from a deputy. As long as they're not forward facing, no problem. In fact, first on the order list for my '12 RTS is fender LEDs and tips from Reggie. Will get red Gloryders also when cash permits. We also run with the fogs on all the time, they're really not that strong, somewhat of a dissapointment for the cost, but more visability for oncoming traffic anway. Each state is different and no way can anyone know all the laws concerning lighting from all states.

My 1st night out with aqua gloryders I was stopped by LEO he said no blue and that seen from the front they look like flashing blue and most states don't allow that. so I bought white wish I had bought amber

[bruiser]

I was in front of Bruisersbaby last night coming home from getting dinner, I couldn't see her Gloryders in my mirrors. We swapped lead and I still couldn't see them from behind until she made a turn. I could see the glow on the road. But like I said, it depends on the state. I've heard that Va doesn't allow LEDs. I read on another thread that someone had the LED fender lights and LEO said they were illegal.

[bignose13]

I ride in St George all the time...my lights will stay on, less chance of getting hit..more chance of getting ticket...give me the ticket:cheers:...its the price we pay for living in an awesome riding state.
Where were you exactly?
is the ticket written stating you have to remove lights or pay a fine or was it just a friendly reminder?:popcorn:


We got pulled over tonight for having too many white lights in the front. He said we could only have 4 white lights and told us we would have to go back to the dealer and have them replace the white lights on the fenders with amber lights. And we can never use our fog lights here. We had some other LED lights put underneath the bike and the strip lights over the fenders. He said the fender lights could remain but all others had to go. The LED fender lights are amber in the front and red in the back.
My thought is the white fender lights are there to show the width of the front so someone doesn't clip one of the wheels.

[Sumners2]

Ok, regarding too many white lights in the front, says the officer, we looked in our RT owners manual and this is what we learned; The white lights near the headlamps are .5 watt LED lights. The fender tip bulbs are 5 watt and referred to as "position lights".
There was mention that a lot of the newer cars are coming out with white strip LED lights from the factory so I googled this and found that Audi was the first and many others followed suit. Saab, Lexus, BMW, Toyota, Bentley!, KIA, Chrysler, Ford, Hyundai Genesis!!, VW Beetle for the "bug eye effect". With law enforcement chasing down all these car owners with more than 4 white lights in the front, there will be a hay day for the real criminals!!!!!

[Sumners2]

I ride in St George all the time...my lights will stay on, less chance of getting hit..more chance of getting ticket...give me the ticket:cheers:...its the price we pay for living in an awesome riding state.
Where were you exactly?
is the ticket written stating you have to remove lights or pay a fine or was it just a friendly reminder?:popcorn:

We live in Ivins. Southern Utah is awesome for riding!!!! We just bought our bike a month ago and we love it!!!
We were not cited. It was just a verbal warning but we are going to a higher authority because this doesn't make sense to have to alter what came from the factory that way. He expects us to change the fender tips to amber. Really?

[Yfactor]

If your Glo Ryders are blue, you can be sure you will be pulled.

I ride with blue Glo-Ryders all the time past state and local leo as well as om post . Never had one question them just thumbs up from several llocal and state. Have ridden most of the state without question.

[Arr MiHardies]

I'm was driving down the freeway at night doing about 80 in a 65 while all light up. Under lights, glowryders, accents everywhere. State trooper pulls up next to me runs with me for about a half mile, then speeds on past. I've ridden by many cops all lit up. Most turn to look, but I've never been pulled over. But i also went over the local laws regarding lighting before installing anything to make sure my plans would be legal.

[ARtraveler]

Sorry to hear you were pulled over for too many lights. No problem here in AK. I have actually had thumbs up for my lighting by State Troopers. Never been stopped by local police either.

I run headlights, fog lights, a-bar lights and glo ryders. The rear is standard issue plus the trunk light bar.

[bone crusher]

fender tip lights to amber is easy and cheap...if your state or local law enforcement has issues and it looks like you will continue to have issues, just put in amber...they look great and I guess will keep you out of trouble.

I have the amber fender tips from NMN/CSI/ESI/whatever they are now....they work great and are LED. You get plenty of visibility from these and you certainly don't need white lights in the fenders.

If your state has an issue, just do the real easy thing and switch to amber...

[mastertek2000]

here is the MASS laws every state has their own

Section 7E. No motor vehicle operated pursuant to section seven other than fire apparatus, ambulances, school buses, vehicles specified in section seven D used for transporting school children, and vehicles specified in section seven I shall mount or display a flashing, rotating or oscillating red light in any direction, except as herein provided; provided, however, that nothing in this section shall prohibit an official police vehicle from displaying a flashing, rotating or oscillating red light in the opposite direction in which the vehicle is proceeding or prohibit fire apparatus from displaying a flashing, rotating or oscillating blue light in the opposite direction in which the vehicle is proceeding.
A vehicle owned or operated by a forest warden, deputy forest warden, a chief or deputy chief of a municipal fire department, a chaplain of a municipal fire department, a member of a fire department of a town or a call member of a fire department or a member or a call member of an emergency medical service may have mounted thereon flashing, rotating or oscillating red lights. Such lights shall only be displayed when such owner or operator is proceeding to a fire or in response to an alarm and when the official duty of such owner or operator requires him to proceed to said fire or to respond to said alarm, and at no other time.
No such red light shall be mounted or displayed on such vehicle until proper application has been made to the registrar by the head of the fire department and a written permit has been issued and delivered to the owner and operator. In the event that the operator is not the registered owner of the vehicle, no permit shall be issued until said owner forwards to the registrar a written statement certifying that he has knowledge that such red light will be mounted and displayed on said vehicle.
Any person operating a vehicle upon which flashing, rotating or oscillating red lights herein authorized are mounted shall have the permit for said lights upon his person or in the vehicle in some easily accessible place. Upon termination of the duties which warranted the issuance of the permit, the head of the fire department shall immediately notify the registrar who shall forthwith revoke such red light permit. Upon the written request of the chief of police or chief of fire of the town in which such permitted vehicle is registered, the registrar may revoke such permit. The registrar shall revoke such permit for the unauthorized use of such red lights and the owner and operator shall be subject to a fine as hereinafter provided.
Upon revocation, the registrar of motor vehicles shall notify forthwith the owner and operator of the vehicle for which such permit was issued and the head of the police department and fire department of the town in which his original permit was issued.
No motor vehicle or trailer except (i) a vehicle used solely for official business by any police department of the commonwealth or its political subdivisions or by any railroad police department or college or university police department whose officers are appointed as special state police officers by the colonel of state police pursuant to section sixty-three of chapter twenty-two C and subject to such special rules and regulations applicable to such college or university police department as the registrar may prescribe, (ii) a vehicle owned and operated by a police officer of any town or any agency of the commonwealth while on official duty and when authorized by the officer’s police chief or agency head and only by authority of a permit issued by the registrar, (iii) a vehicle operated by a duly appointed medical examiner or a physician or surgeon attached to a police department of any city or town only while on official duty and only by authority of a permit issued by the registrar, (iv) a vehicle operated by a police commissioner of a police department of any city only while on official duty and only by authority of a permit issued by the registrar, (v) a vehicle actually being used for the transportation of persons who are under arrest, or in lawful custody under authority of any court, or committed to penal or mental institutions, and only by authority of a permit issued by the registrar, (vi) a vehicle operated by a chaplain of a municipal police department while on official duty and only by authority of a permit issued by the registrar shall mount or display a flashing, rotating or oscillating blue light in any direction. No motor vehicle, as hereinbefore provided, requiring a permit from the registrar, shall mount or display a blue light on such vehicle until proper application has been made to the registrar by the head of the police department and such written permit has been issued and delivered to the owner and operator. Such notice shall include the place of residence and address of the owner and operator of the vehicle for which such permit is issued and the name of the make, vehicle identification number and the registration number of the vehicle for which such permit authorizes the display of blue lights. Any person operating a vehicle upon which blue lights have been authorized to be mounted or displayed, by permit, shall carry such permit for said lights upon his person or in the vehicle in some easily accessible place. Upon termination of the duties of such person which warranted the issuance of the permit, the chief of police shall immediately notify the registrar, who shall forthwith revoke such blue light permit. Upon the written request of the chief of police of the town in which such permitted vehicle is registered the registrar may revoke such permit. The registrar shall revoke such permit for the unauthorized use of such blue lights and the owner and operator shall be subject to a fine as hereinafter provided. Upon revocation, the registrar of motor vehicles shall notify forthwith the owner and operator of the vehicle for which such permit was issued and the head of the police department of the city or town in which such permitted vehicle is registered. Upon receipt of his notice of revocation, such owner and operator shall forthwith deliver such blue light permit to the registrar and he shall not be eligible for reissuance of such permit without consent of the head of the police department of the town in which his original permit was issued. Nothing in this section shall authorize any owner or operator to disregard or violate any statute, ordinance, by-law, rule or regulation regarding motor vehicles or their use on ways of the commonwealth. The registrar may also make such rules and regulations governing or prohibiting the display of such other lights on motor vehicles as he may deem necessary for public safety.
Any person who violates any provision of this section for which a penalty is not otherwise provided shall be subject to a fine of not less than one hundred dollars, nor more than three hundred dollars.

[Huntindawg1962]

I have the blue gloryders and my wife has the orange. Passed LEOs and not (yet) had a problem. But if it happens I will get different inserts. When you are running slow, the blue look like they are flashing but at any reasonable speed they are a constant glow.

Boats have the same issues - No blue nor red as that is the color for coast guard and LEO boats and red and green for nav lights. Only in the cabin acceptable; Lots of people having issues on their boats as the blue underwater lights. So I put on the color changing ones on my boat so I can please everyone :yes:

[FANG]

Have had FANG now for 4 yrs. Right after I purchased it - had LED's put on - BLUE - of course I was novice to the world of ryding having never riden 2 wheelers and the wife picked out the color. Didn't know at the time that I could not ryde with BLUE - if I had known I would have picked a differnt color. But I have digressed - for months I rode the spyder with the BLUE LEDS on without and issue. Then on Thanksgiving in 08 I had riden the spyder home from daughters to feed the dogs - no issues. Was returning when this FLA STATE TROOPER lights me up. As he approaches the spyder he starts yelling that he could take me in for impersonating a police man.
Of course the BLUE LEDS were not flashing but just being used to make spyder more visible.

I bit my tongue - wanted to say something about how many policemen do you see ridingn with solid blue lighting. I was given a warning ticket. Had passed many State Troopers, Deputies and Police prior to this incident with the lights on and never had a problem - figured this STATE TROOPER got a wishbone up the A** because he was having to work on Thanksgiving.

I have never riden with them on since though.

[bone crusher]

Have had FANG now for 4 yrs. Right after I purchased it - had LED's put on - BLUE - of course I was novice to the world of ryding having never riden 2 wheelers and the wife picked out the color. Didn't know at the time that I could not ryde with BLUE - if I had known I would have picked a differnt color. But I have digressed - for months I rode the spyder with the BLUE LEDS on without and issue. Then on Thanksgiving in 08 I had riden the spyder home from daughters to feed the dogs - no issues. Was returning when this FLA STATE TROOPER lights me up. As he approaches the spyder he starts yelling that he could take me in for impersonating a police man.
Of course the BLUE LEDS were not flashing but just being used to make spyder more visible.

I bit my tongue - wanted to say something about how many policemen do you see ridingn with solid blue lighting. I was given a warning ticket. Had passed many State Troopers, Deputies and Police prior to this incident with the lights on and never had a problem - figured this STATE TROOPER got a wishbone up the A** because he was having to work on Thanksgiving.

I have never riden with them on since though.

Most states do not allow blue or red (police colors). In MD, you cannot use them and being I'm a resident here, that's all that I really need to worry about. I don't know why people would even want to take a chance...everyone needs to get familiar with their state laws...if they follow them, they will not need to worry...

[FrankPa]

back in the day, sidepipes were illegal here in PA. (Maybe still are)

BUT, Corvettes had them from the factory and that made it OK... might be the same for lights...

[boborgera]

back in the day, sidepipes were illegal here in PA. (Maybe still are)

BUT, Corvettes had them from the factory and that made it OK... might be the same for lights...


They are/were legal [side pipes] as long as they don't exit under a operable window.

[suenmikez]

Back in 69, I had one of those vettes with side pipes. They were very mellow unless you got the racing model, then they were almost like straight thru pipes!!! Yes the good old days!!:yes:


back in the day, sidepipes were illegal here in PA. (Maybe still are)

BUT, Corvettes had them from the factory and that made it OK... might be the same for lights...