Aaarrrrrgh!!

[Bob Denman]

:gaah: Well now I'm just a bit ticked off...
Last year I went through HELL getting the top trunk and side storage warning light to work if a lid was loose. Between being able to get TO the jumper and then get it in the right place; it took me over a week to get it right...
Since they re-assembled my bike; it don't work no more!!! :gaah::gaah::gaah: They probably ignored the "non-standard" location of my homemade jumper, and just put the plugs back where the book says they go... :gaah:
Well that just tears it; I'll let my NEW dealer monkey with it when I get them under the Tupperware for a valve-check at a future date... :gaah:

[Arr MiHardies]

The time for you to be ticked off was long overdue friend. Sorry to hear about your troubles.

[Bob Denman]

I can almost understand it... They probably just put the jumper where the book said to...
It's just that I had such a time getting it moved to where I wanted it... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_5.gif

[boborgera]

Bob, Your saga is getting to look like the old serial The Perils of Pauline,
Watch out for the train.:joke:
All kidding aside, You have more control than i have :bowdown:, I would have cut and run a long time ago.
Been there done that.

[ARtraveler]

I new there was someting going on when I read the title. Sorry to hear about the glitch. Keep us posted. You have been way more low key about this than I would have.

[GeoffCee]

Bob, Your saga is getting to look like the old serial The Perils of Pauline...

It's a wee bit worse than that for me. Where I live a jumper is a garment knitted out of oddments by your color-blind granny and you wear it whenever she visits or you end up with sore legs. It's a day for staying indoors.

Short version is I really don't know what the hell Bob is talking about, 'cept I can see he's all riled up, so for a happy man like him to lose it I guess it's serious. :dontknow::hun:

[SpyderAnn01]

I took my Spyder in for service and they reconnected the fuel and temp gauges that I had disconnected. So now I make sure to let them know that this was intentional on my part. I guess you should have given them a list of your modifications. :banghead:

[Bob Denman]

It's a wee bit worse than that for me. Where I live a jumper is a garment knitted out of oddments by your color-blind granny and you wear it whenever she visits or you end up with sore legs. It's a day for staying indoors.

Short version is I really don't know what the hell Bob is talking about, 'cept I can see he's all riled up, so for a happy man like him to lose it I guess it's serious. :dontknow::hun:

Sorry... :opps:

Under the switching that's up on top of the RT's Bodywork, there's a block of electrical connections... They have a short connector that can be moved between the different terminals; depending on what you want to have working on the bike. On the RT A&C models, they had this connection set up so that it was irrelevant; it managed to be doikng nothing. BUT... you could move it to a different position to give you the additional function of a warning light in your instrument panel if a lid wasn't shut properly... I had turned that on, and they just shut it back off! :gaah:
Don't you just love Grandmothers??? ;)

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Bob you're going to get the VALVES checked, you must be FRIGGIN RICH ..................and I'm glad for YOU........Mike..............:agree:......:thumbup :......:roflblack:...:roflblack:...:roflblack:

[Bob Denman]

:opps: It's actually worth almost ANYTHING to not have to tackle that :cus: set of switches again... :opps:
I can justify it to the Missus that way... :roflblack: :thumbup:

[dannymax]

Jeez Bob....if it weren't for bad luck.........! Sorry to hear this man.

I think they should have made a drawing of the wiring and put it back the way you had it, but that's just me.

That NEW guy you mentioned might not be such a bad idea. :shocked:

[boborgera]

The new isn't in PA. is he.:dontknow:

[GeoffCee]

...you could move it to a different position to give you the additional function of a warning light in your instrument panel if a lid wasn't shut properly... I had turned that on, and they just shut it back off! :gaah:

There's no missing your consternation, and rightly so, Bob, BUT my 2011 RT is jumped (is that the correct verb?) to show an open lid on the display by default, exactly what you went to such trouble to have on your machine. Why would BRP have the unclosed lid warning facility unjumped, having included it in the RT wiring in the 1st place? Very strange behaviour, I think.


Don't you just love Grandmothers??? ;)

Yeah, my favorite one had a few straggly white hairs on her chin and my mother noticed me staring at them one day. After the Old One had departed she told me it was impolite to stare and I wasn't ever to do it again. The next time she showed up I kept my eyes off of her face. She always had a few sweets about her person for my little brother and me and when she invited me to take one from the paper bag in her hand she whispered, "Have you lost interest in my hairy chin, Geoffrey?'

It wasn't until much later in life during my first visit to a strip club that I discovered that there are no absolutes where good manners are concerned. Staring was expected. :roflblack:

[NancysToy]

Bob, no surprises as far as I can see. If they had to replace the wiring harness, they would have had the same problem again, unless BRP changed their build sheets and specs. As I recall, you lost the original jumper and inserted a wire jumper. If they used the same harness, they may have discarded the jumper as an unknown...or it could have even been knocked loose in the accident. This is one of the hidden perils in correcting a warranty problem yourself...the dealer never learns how things are supposed to be.

Think of it this way...you can probably do the job in halfthe time with half the amount of cuss words this time around. :roflblack:

[Bob Denman]

Thanks; but the Missus got nervous when that blue streak started and forbade the use of those words in any County in which she resides... :roflblack:
I can understand HOW it happened; I just don't like THAT it happened. It's not entirely their fault for this one; I should have pointed out this modification to them when I dropped off the bike! :gaah:

[Spyderjockey]

Thanks; but the Missus got nervous when that blue streak started and forbade the use of those words in any County in which she resides... :roflblack:
I can understand HOW it happened; I just don't like THAT it happened. It's not entirely their fault for this one; I should have pointed out this modification to them when I dropped off the bike! :gaah:

Keep on keeping on Bob!! Hopefully your problems will be just a bad memory in the very near future.:thumbup:

[Farmboy]

I found this from another thread.....


There's a jumper mis-wired.
This misplaced jumper causes the "Rear Cargo Door Open" not to be displayed and the useless air shock graphic to be displayed on the multifunction display.

It drove me nuts until I tracked down the bad jumper.


Here's how to fix it:
The jumper is located under the switch blank in the row of switches controlling the Brake/Hood Release and Heated Grips.

The block is under the fourth cover over if you count the Brake/Hood Release as #1.
It's actually where the rocker switch for the power air shock thingee would be if we lived in the high rent RT-S district.

Use a small screwdriver as a pry bar, be careful not to scratch the plastic around it.
Pull the cover off with your fingers. It can be a bit tight if it's never been removed.

You'll see a switch block hanging there.

The jumper is a white plastic block that plugs into the connector block.
It should have the jumper across two terminal holes in the block.
The correct location of the jumper should be between #3 & #6

For some reason the numbers go


9 6 5 4 7

10 3 2 1 8


To help you in identification Pin 9 & 4 do not have terminals in them. They are blank.

My jumper was between 4 & 1.

When re-installing the switch blank make certain the switch block is locked into the blank before you push it all the way down.

In a related note -
Most of these Spyders also left the factory without the passenger heated grips connected.

[Bob Denman]

I remember all of that...
Have you ever tried to remove one of those covers?? :shocked: I had 2 members here trying to talk me through it and it was a real pain in the :cus:. After I destroyed the cover... :yikes: Steve sent me one that he had removed as a replacement.:thumbup: Roger talked me through the placing of the jumper. Trouble is; that block is located just far enough down in a hole that you can't get to it!:gaah: I ended up borrowing a couple of forceps; one to grab and stabilize the block,m and one to move the jumper... But it wasn't a pleasant time in the Denman household while the bike was apart... :shocked:

[boborgera]

I remember all of that...
Have you ever tried to remove one of those covers?? :shocked: I had 2 members here trying to talk me through it and it was a real pain in the :cus:. After I destroyed the cover... :yikes: Steve sent me one that he had removed as a replacement.:thumbup: Roger talked me through the placing of the jumper. Trouble is; that block is located just far enough down in a hole that you can't get to it!:gaah: I ended up borrowing a couple of forceps; one to grab and stabilize the block,m and one to move the jumper... But it wasn't a pleasant time in the Denman household while the bike was apart... :shocked:


Bob, I'm thinking the next bike you get should be a Naked one.
Not you the only the bike!:roflblack: [please]

[dannymax]

I remember all of that...
Have you ever tried to remove one of those covers?? :shocked: I had 2 members here trying to talk me through it and it was a real pain in the :cus:. After I destroyed the cover... :yikes: Steve sent me one that he had removed as a replacement.:thumbup: Roger talked me through the placing of the jumper. Trouble is; that block is located just far enough down in a hole that you can't get to it!:gaah: I ended up borrowing a couple of forceps; one to grab and stabilize the block,m and one to move the jumper... But it wasn't a pleasant time in the Denman household while the bike was apart... :shocked:

Just something to consider Bob, I got some 12" hemo-stats, one curved and one straight, off ebay for about $15 for the pair....use them constantly. Might be worth it for you to have some around.

[Yol Bolsun]

Just something to consider Bob, I got some 12" hemo-stats, one curved and one straight, off ebay for about $15 for the pair....use them constantly. Might be worth it for you to have some around.

What he said!

[IGETAROUND]

What he said!
We'll not inquire as to why the tips are blackened:shemademe_smilie::roflblack:

[GeoffCee]

Have you ever tried to remove one of those covers?? :shocked:

Attached is a photo of the Carling tool which does two jobs. The U-shaped end removes the actuator, or rocker part of the switch.

The other end gets shoved down the narrow side of the switch, (you need 2 of these tools, one for each side). The switch or switch blank is then removed from the top. The tools work together to compress the catches which are holding the switch, or blank, in position. :f_spider:

41574

[Bob Denman]

Attached is a photo of the Carling tool which does two jobs. The U-shaped end removes the actuator, or rocker part of the switch.

The other end gets shoved down the narrow side of the switch, (you need 2 of these tools, one for each side). The switch or switch blank is then removed from the top. The tools work together to compress the catches which are holding the switch, or blank, in position. :f_spider:

41574

Where have you been all of my life??? http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_3_11.gif

[GeoffCee]

Where have you been all of my life??? http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_3_11.gif

To quote Jack Nicholson tellin it like it is in one of my favourite films, As Good As It Gets, "I tell ya, buddy, if that did it for me I'd be the happiest guy on Earth".

But I gotta say I just LOVE the flowers, Bob. That's definitely a first for me on this manly, butt-kickin forum! :roflblack:

[Bob Denman]

To quote Jack Nicholson tellin it like it is in one of my favourite films, As Good As It Gets, "I tell ya, buddy, if that did it for me I'd be the happiest guy on Earth".

But I gotta say I just LOVE the flowers, Bob. That's definitely a first for me on this manly, butt-kickin forum! :roflblack:

:roflblack:http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_72.gif
:2thumbs:
And not a single joke about 'To bodly go where no man has gone before..." :shocked:

[arntufun]

Just something to consider Bob, I got some 12" hemo-stats, one curved and one straight, off ebay for about $15 for the pair....use them constantly. Might be worth it for you to have some around.



Bob, I can get you the Hemo-stats for free if you want. Holly uses them all the time at the hospital. Once she open a kit at the hospital even if she don't use them she has to throw them out. Let me know if you need them. :thumbup: You wonder why hospital bills are so high ???


In my younger days they would make a great roach clip.:joke:

[Bob Denman]

Bob, I can get you the Hemo-stats for free if you want. Holly uses them all the time at the hospital. Once she open a kit at the hospital even if she don't use them she has to throw them out. Let me know if you need them. :thumbup: You wonder why hospital bills are so high ???


In my younger days they would make a great roach clip.:joke:

Thanks! A couple of them would be nice... The last time I had to scramble to borrow them! :opps:
What'd you do? forget where you left your water pipe?? :b2b:

[arntufun]

PM sent !!! :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

PM received... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_204.gif
Thanks! :clap: :firstplace: :thumbup:

[GeoffCee]

The last time I had to scramble to borrow them! :opps:

I looked up the term "hemo-stat". Ah, so that is what that thing is called.

Turns out I have been using one to grip and hold all those fiddly little things that turn up in my life needing attention. With the addition of a small vice they work together almost as efficiently as a third hand. I was given my hemo-stat by a long-lost chum decades ago. He serviced helicopter components and had access to a wide range of tools and accessories.

As a hobby at the time, together we built and sailed radio-controlled scale-model navy ships powered by miniature electric motors, on the pretext that we were doing it for the amusement of our two sons, but the truth is they were only rarely entrusted with the controller! Great fun for a couple of wannabe admirals! :thumbup:

[kevorama]

After high School and college I found out that there was another use for hemostats. I also fly RC planes and run several 4WD RC cars and trucks and they are great as a third hand. But, where they really shine is for tying hooks onto fishing line. Clamp the hemostat on the hook and then run the line through the eyelet and tie off. The hemostat acts as a weight to hold the hook in place while you use your other two hands to tie your hook on right.

[GeoffCee]

...I found out that there was another use for hemostats.

I'll borrow a quote: Necessity is the mother of invention.

My experience, for what it's worth, is that there is "another use" for almost everything, you just have to spot what it is and get to work. At home I have so much stuff hanging about that I may find a use for someday. A use my wife thinks I should put it to right away is dumping it in our municipal landfill site! :sour: