More on Ethanol

[Brunswick]

OK, so does this mean there is any hope that this will lead them to start taking that crap out of our gasoline? At least it's a start, right?
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/06/senate-votes-to-end-ethanol-subsidies/1

[wolfeman]

I'd rather give my money to American farmers, than to give it to Arabs that would rather blow us up than sell us oil.

[MouthPiece]

Actually, and I'm not sure which govt. agency pronounced this, but it has been "OKed" to have 15% of that crap put in our gas.

Chris PE# 0004

[DougB]

THEY'LL MAKE MORE MONEY AT 15% CUZ WE'LL ALL BE BUYING STARTRON ADDITIVE TO COUNTERACT THE ETHANOL

[ataDude]

Until they overturn the regulations actually requiring the addition of ethanol to gas, the only thing it means is that the price of gasoline will go up.




OK, so does this mean there is any hope that this will lead them to start taking that crap out of our gasoline? At least it's a start, right?
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/06/senate-votes-to-end-ethanol-subsidies/1

[Brunswick]

I'd rather give my money to American farmers, than to give it to Arabs that would rather blow us up than sell us oil.

Then I suggest you go hand the money directly to them. Putting corn-based ethanol is gas just stupid all the way around. More energy is used in refining the ethanol than it produces, and it lowers fuel economy. Thus it doesn't really do anything to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Plus it is an inefficient use of resources which ends up driving up food prices because corn is used to produce ethanol and farmers devote less land to other crops to take advantage of the corn subsidies. The movement to end ethanol subsidies is championed by both left-wing environmentalists and right-wing free-market advocates. Why? Because it just plain makes sense to anyone not on the take from the big evil corn lobby. IMHO...

[boborgera]

Then I suggest you go hand the money directly to them. Putting corn-based ethanol is gas just stupid all the way around. More energy is used in refining the ethanol than it produces, and it lowers fuel economy. Thus it doesn't really do anything to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Plus it is an inefficient use of resources which ends up driving up food prices because corn is used to produce ethanol and farmers devote less land to other crops to take advantage of the corn subsidies. The movement to end ethanol subsidies is championed by both left-wing environmentalists and right-wing free-market advocates. Why? Because it just plain makes sense to anyone not on the take from the big evil corn lobby. IMHO...

:agree: To put it simple, To grow food [corn] to put in gas tanks is down right Stupid.:gaah:

[johnnyrocket]

:agree:
:agree: To put it simple, To grow food [corn] to put in gas tanks is down right Stupid.:gaah:
:agree:

[Havasu Rider]

I agree with Doug B, about Starthon. I started using it a few months ago and the Spyder runs better and my mileage went up 2-3 mpg. Great stuff.

[pjp623]

Then I suggest you go hand the money directly to them. Putting corn-based ethanol is gas just stupid all the way around. More energy is used in refining the ethanol than it produces, and it lowers fuel economy. Thus it doesn't really do anything to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Plus it is an inefficient use of resources which ends up driving up food prices because corn is used to produce ethanol and farmers devote less land to other crops to take advantage of the corn subsidies. The movement to end ethanol subsidies is championed by both left-wing environmentalists and right-wing free-market advocates. Why? Because it just plain makes sense to anyone not on the take from the big evil corn lobby. IMHO...
:agree: Gosoline engines were not designed to run on corn!

[Bob Denman]

So... Do we send our cash to the Middle East for oil, or to Iowa for corn?? :dontknow: