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gseely
02-21-2010, 10:37 PM
I'm interested in hearing opinions about the best 4-inch risers for an SE5. How difficult are they to install?

Thanks for your help.

RoadHammer
02-21-2010, 11:36 PM
not difficult to install at all.
I like the 4 inchers from ESI http://www.esicycleproducts.com/ It makes a night and day difference. With risers you can ride all day and even more if need be.
Also there is kewlmetals riser bars. www.kewlmetal.com I have never tried them but those that have them like them.

:2thumbs:

boborgera
02-22-2010, 12:07 AM
I'm interested in hearing opinions about the best 4-inch risers for an SE5. How difficult are they to install?

Thanks for your help.

I got the 3 inch from ESI Makes a world of difference, In retrospect i probably should have gone with the 4 inch. Very easy to install.

BillGargan
02-22-2010, 12:15 AM
I love the HeliBar riser that I had installed.

I think others may work too. Some look a bit like an erector set approach but have more flexiibility. Some, like the HeliBar are closer to the stock look but don't have the adjustability others have.

If I had a do-over I would still do the HeliBar.

bone crusher
02-22-2010, 12:31 AM
I'm interested in hearing opinions about the best 4-inch risers for an SE5. How difficult are they to install?

Thanks for your help.

I have the 1" riser with the 3" ESI riser on top...so, effectively, I have a 4" riser...I don't think you can go wrong with anything that Evan/ESI offers. Great stuff.

As far as kewlmetal goes, I have one of their mods on my bike and I have the foot pegs, but I haven't gotten to them yet...they are a good company too...

gseely
02-22-2010, 09:49 AM
Thanks to everyone!

Has anyone tried both the Kewlmetal and ESI risers? Any opinion on what would work well for a really short rider? These would be for my wife, who is 4' 10".

Hand numbness has been a problem. Do these help that problem specifically?

gseely
02-22-2010, 10:00 AM
One more question: Is it necessary to cut the stock bars to install these risers? Thanks again!

dryheat
02-22-2010, 10:28 AM
One more question: Is it necessary to cut the stock bars to install these risers? Thanks again!
yes, it is. However you can dry-fit them together before you cut to get an idea what they will be like... and change your mind. (but you won't!). Either company (ESI or Kewlmetal) is great. Kewlmetal does have a new version out that seem to be more adjustable, and the video on their site looks pretty "kewl". Haven't seen feedback from anyone who has tried them though.

nudle
02-22-2010, 10:32 AM
I have the ESI 4" risers.They are great and changed the way the :spyder: handles and steers.Yes you have to cut the handlebars to install, But I have seen one :spyder: that did not cut the bars (Putt Putts from Spooner wi.

gseely
02-22-2010, 10:48 AM
I have the ESI 4" risers.They are great and changed the way the :spyder: handles and steers.Yes you have to cut the handlebars to install, But I have seen one :spyder: that did not cut the bars (Putt Putts from Spooner wi.

Thanks! 4-inch risers are the largest size; right? These are for a super-short rider.

SpyderGirl
02-22-2010, 10:52 AM
I have a SM5 with the 1" BRP riser and the 4" ESI risers and it's great (I got lucky).

Now if you have the 1" riser installed they do recommend that you go with no more than a 3" riser, but not sure if that holds true with the SE5 or not.

You could also go with Kewlmetal for more of a pull back or the Helibars if you want to retain your center console.

draboo
02-22-2010, 10:57 AM
Thanks! 4-inch risers are the largest size; right? These are for a super-short rider.

I m 6 ft tall and use the 4 in ESI risers. I used to get sore wrists and my hands would go numb in about 30 minutes of riding,plus a pain between the shoulder blades. These problems were eliminated with the use of the risers.

I m speculating on the price, but if you want to put a set of stock,uncut handlebars back on, the price of them is not too outrageous, like $40..??

madjack
02-22-2010, 11:13 AM
I have installed both the risers in ? . Both get the job done, but the new one by Kewlmetal, has 3 ways of adjustment. This alone makes them much better, plus if you use them as a more of a pull-back system, then they accept the addition of the ISCI hand brake system w/out any modification.

Having installed both, I wish the Kewlmetals had been availible when I went to do that part of modification to my wifes :spyder2:.

If you need more info just PM me. Gene

dltang
02-22-2010, 11:54 AM
Thanks to everyone!

Has anyone tried both the Kewlmetal and ESI risers? Any opinion on what would work well for a really short rider? These would be for my wife, who is 4' 10".

Hand numbness has been a problem. Do these help that problem specifically?

Check out this thread,http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13130&highlight=kewlmetal Joan worked with Kewlmetal to get things just right for her as she is only 5'2" I believe. I think they finally got what she was looking for.

I love my ESI 3 inch risers with the BRP 1 inch riser. I have them pulled back a bit and that makes for a more comfortable rider for me and I got to keep my stock look. Just personal preference I suppose and of course comfort.

mxz600
02-22-2010, 12:13 PM
Kewlmetal's new soon to be released (if not already) risers.

Product link:
http://www.kewlmetalstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=5&products_id=456

Video:
http://www.kewlmetal.com/

C3517C
02-22-2010, 01:20 PM
Has anyone found that the risers help out with back and neck pain on longer rides ?

dltang
02-22-2010, 01:41 PM
Has anyone found that the risers help out with back and neck pain on longer rides ?

Yes, my ESI risers completely eliminated my shoulder pain. For neck pain I ended up going with a Carbon Fiber helmet from HJC, so much lighter than my old helmet and made a heck of a difference. After replacing my seat with a Russell Day-Long, no more back or butt pain either. So, you will have to look at a lot of factors. The shoulder pain kind of a burning sensation between the shoulder blades and the shoulders themselves though was taken care of with my risers. Hope this information is helpful to you. I am sure the Kewlmetal risers will accomplish the same goal.

C3517C
02-22-2010, 01:56 PM
Thanks, that helps alot and and improves my outlook. I rode 250 miles yesterday, which is long for me. My neck/upper back pinched so bad I was about ready to start walking. I know my helmet is a problem also. It's a high quality full face helmet, but it is pretty darn heavy. I think I'm going to start looking for something as light as possible that still offers reasonable protection. I also have already bought new risers (not installed yet), and then found out about the new adjustable ones :mad:.

bone crusher
02-22-2010, 02:17 PM
Has anyone found that the risers help out with back and neck pain on longer rides ?

I can tell you from the perspective of being a sports med. doctor that being more upright is far better for shoulder biomechanics and for your c-spine.

dltang
02-22-2010, 02:17 PM
Thanks, that helps alot and and improves my outlook. I rode 250 miles yesterday, which is long for me. My neck/upper back pinched so bad I was about ready to start walking. I know my helmet is a problem also. It's a high quality full face helmet, but it is pretty darn heavy. I think I'm going to start looking for something as light as possible that still offers reasonable protection. I also have already bought new risers (not installed yet), and then found out about the new adjustable ones :mad:.

Don't be mad if you bought the ESI risers. Even though they may not have the adjustability of the new Kewlmetal ones, they are still an excellent riser. You do have some adjustability with them, as I have mine more pulled back and my husband has his more upright. They are an excellent product. You will find the handling of your spyder to be better all around and I am sure you will notice a difference in the pain in your upper back.

Tom in NM
02-22-2010, 02:21 PM
not difficult to install at all.
I like the 4 inchers from ESI http://www.esicycleproducts.com/ It makes a night and day difference. With risers you can ride all day and even more if need be.
Also there is kewlmetals riser bars. www.kewlmetal.com I have never tried them but those that have them like them.

:2thumbs:

Yes and a big NO.
I have the ESI 4" risers on my SE5, one, if not THE one, best mod. The big NO comes from the install - I was one of the people who had to really work at getting the amount of cable slack required for the install. I was not impressed with the quality of the finish at the price, I would give that a C. The instructions for doing an SE5 rated a D or D- . So, great end result, worse install to date.

If I needed to do another riser install, I would do the Kewlmetal ones, in a heartbeat.

The big ergonomic payoff for me with the risers was that they allowed me to sit further back on the seat and take the pressure off my knees (being pushed apart, bowlegged style) - they were always aching after the first 150 miles. I didn't have any neck, back or shoulder pressures from the stock bars. I am 5'7", with a 29" inseam.

Tom

RoadHammer
02-22-2010, 03:14 PM
If your worried about hand cramps, i suggest installing handgrips with rubber inserts. Also some bar end weights available in many cool styles. And last but not least a throttle boss. This along with risers of your choice will result in what i consider very comfortable for all day riding.
http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.Products/catID/25/scID/163
http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.Products/catID/17/scID/116

bone crusher
02-22-2010, 04:52 PM
If your worried about hand cramps, i suggest installing handgrips with rubber inserts. Also some bar end weights available in many cool styles. And last but not least a throttle boss. This along with risers of your choice will result in what i consider very comfortable for all day riding.
http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.Products/catID/25/scID/163
http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.Products/catID/17/scID/116

Actually, I put on the throttlemeister that really helped with vibration and the like...then, with the ESI risers, all the vibration was effectively eliminated...no question that risers really dampen the vibration a lot...

With cramps, you have to be certain you aren't squeezing too tightly...like with a golf club...yikes!

SpyderGirl
02-22-2010, 05:03 PM
Actually, I put on the throttlemeister that really helped with vibration and the like...then, with the ESI risers, all the vibration was effectively eliminated...no question that risers really dampen the vibration a lot...

With cramps, you have to be certain you aren't squeezing too tightly...like with a golf club...yikes!

I also have the Throttlemeister that helps a lot, as does my throttle rocker. My hands no longer cramp up or fall asleep.

Add that to the 1" BRP riser and the 4" ESI risers I have along with my Corbin seat, I'm all set. A hand brake and highway pegs would be all I need for the ulimate comfort. My knees start to bother me after about 1 to 1 1/2 hours of riding without a break.

And so you know, I am 5' 3" with a 30" inseam.

gseely
02-22-2010, 05:25 PM
If your worried about hand cramps, i suggest installing handgrips with rubber inserts. Also some bar end weights available in many cool styles. And last but not least a throttle boss. This along with risers of your choice will result in what i consider very comfortable for all day riding.
http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.Products/catID/25/scID/163
http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.Products/catID/17/scID/116

The stock Spyder grips leave a lot to be desired. I put PM Renthal grips on my Harley, which eliminated the vibration problems. I've never tried anything that worked as well. I'd like to put something similar on the Spyder.

After buying the PM Renthal grips, I read a number of posts that Avon Contour grips offered the same comfort for about half he price. (They appear to be a PM Renthal clone.) Does anyone know if they will work on the Spyder? You can get them with black or chrome caps. Here's a link: http://avongrips.com/shop/products/SB-Custom-Contour-Anodized-Grips.html

RoadHammer
02-22-2010, 05:33 PM
If it's a 7/8 you should be good to go

gseely
02-22-2010, 05:33 PM
Kewlmetal's new soon to be released (if not already) risers.

Product link:
http://www.kewlmetalstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=5&products_id=456

Video:
http://www.kewlmetal.com/

Their website states that these fit the RS (new name for 2010). Will the fit a 2009 SE5? Do I need a different model for the semi-automatic transmission than the manual transmission?

Has anyone actually installed these new risers yet?

madjack
02-22-2010, 05:39 PM
gseely; see post #13, yes they work on a se5

jnt
02-23-2010, 04:48 PM
Thanks to everyone!

Has anyone tried both the Kewlmetal and ESI risers? Any opinion on what would work well for a really short rider? These would be for my wife, who is 4' 10".

Hand numbness has been a problem. Do these help that problem specifically?

W is 4'10" also - has the 7" bars from Kewl (with the center plate). Minor re-routing of cables. Also added a Russell seat. Many happy miles since. Numbness is gone, and the cruise helped that as well.

Firefly
02-23-2010, 05:24 PM
Actually, I put on the throttlemeister that really helped with vibration and the like...then, with the ESI risers, all the vibration was effectively eliminated...no question that risers really dampen the vibration a lot...

With cramps, you have to be certain you aren't squeezing too tightly...like with a golf club...yikes!


:agree: The combination of the throttlemeister and ESI risers makes all the difference in the world.... as well as a soft grip.

gseely
02-23-2010, 06:45 PM
Thanks to everyone for your help. I ordered the Kewlmetal Adjustable Risers.