DPS MANUFACTURE

[larryd]

Does anyone know?? Who is the manufacture of the DPS units used by BRP??

I read somewhere that Globe Motors is the manufacture of the Electric Power Steering (EPS) systems used on Polaris & Artic Cat ATV's..

http://www.globe-motors.com/electricpowerassiststeer.html

Sometimes I have these "brain farts" that even scare me..:yikes:

[2faston3]

I believe it maay be Bosch...

2faston3

[Smylinacha]

No - it begins with a "K" - I found it last week and I should have bookmarked it!:yikes:

[jeuchler]

No - it begins with a "K" - I found it last week and I should have bookmarked it!:yikes:

This might be what you were thinking of, Kim. (http://spyderforum.no/files/RCDNN-09V162-3760.pdf)

It's a document dated May 19 sent to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, posted on Norway's Norsk Spyderforum (http://spyderforum.no) (yeah, sure--I read it all the time.)

("The supplier of the Dynamic Power Steering (DPS) system is Kongsberg Inc.")

[WaltH]

This might be what you were thinking of, Kim. (http://spyderforum.no/files/RCDNN-09V162-3760.pdf)

It's a document dated May 19 sent to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, posted on Norway's Norsk Spyderforum (http://spyderforum.no) (yeah, sure--I read it all the time.)

("The supplier of the Dynamic Power Steering (DPS) system is Kongsberg Inc.")

We should keep in mind that the supplier is not necessarily the manufacturer.

[Smylinacha]

Yes - that is what I saw last week :2thumbs:

This might be what you were thinking of, Kim. (http://spyderforum.no/files/RCDNN-09V162-3760.pdf)

It's a document dated May 19 sent to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, posted on Norway's Norsk Spyderforum (http://spyderforum.no) (yeah, sure--I read it all the time.)

("The supplier of the Dynamic Power Steering (DPS) system is Kongsberg Inc.")

[Smylinacha]

When I type in Kongsberg, I find this several times on different blog sites:

Example:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/11/nearly-10-000-can-am-spyders-recalled-over-faulty-steering/

So it says Kongberg will pay for the replacements now will that include people who's warrantys have expired?


This might be what you were thinking of, Kim. (http://spyderforum.no/files/RCDNN-09V162-3760.pdf)

It's a document dated May 19 sent to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, posted on Norway's Norsk Spyderforum (http://spyderforum.no) (yeah, sure--I read it all the time.)

("The supplier of the Dynamic Power Steering (DPS) system is Kongsberg Inc.")

[ataDude]

When I type in Kongsberg, I find this several times on different blog sites:

Example:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/11/nearly-10-000-can-am-spyders-recalled-over-faulty-steering/

So it says Kongberg will pay for the replacements now will that include people who's warrantys have expired?

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Very doubtful. Their relationship is with BRP... not with the end user (us).

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[Smylinacha]

Yeah but if they pay for it w/ BRP, wouldn't ya think BRP would pay for it towards the customers? Or am I dreamin?


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Very doubtful. Their relationship is with BRP... not with the end user (us).

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[spyryder]

Following the links, Kongsberg is the importer and it appears the units would be manufactured somewhere in Asia:

http://www.importgenius.com/importers/kongsberg-inc.html


http://www.importgenius.com/contact.html

[ataDude]

Yeah but if they pay for it w/ BRP, wouldn't ya think BRP would pay for it towards the customers? Or am I dreamin?

I assume you're talking after the BRP warranty expires. Who knows, then?

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[Rando]

The story I heard was they made a slight manufacturing change without ever letting BRP know and THAT is causing the DPS failures in our Spyders. Has anyone else heard this?

[RAL]

Does anyone know serial #s that are affected? I belive my Spyder is an early 2009. Do not want to be left in the cold on this as it is easy to fall throught the cracks on recalls.


RAL

[spyryder]

Does anyone know serial #s that are affected? I belive my Spyder is an early 2009. Do not want to be left in the cold on this as it is easy to fall throught the cracks on recalls.


RAL

Check here:
http://spyderforum.no/files/RCDNN-09V162-3760.pdf

[Smylinacha]

So I got something made in China or Taiwan in the Spyder then?


Following the links, Kongsberg is the importer and it appears the units would be manufactured somewhere in Asia:

http://www.importgenius.com/importers/kongsberg-inc.html


http://www.importgenius.com/contact.html

[bone crusher]

Yeah but if they pay for it w/ BRP, wouldn't ya think BRP would pay for it towards the customers? Or am I dreamin?

BRP would have to issue a statement saying that they're going to warranty the DPS and whatever else for a period of time after a 'final' fix...whenever that is...it would make sense that they'd do this as there are major problems here...we'll have to wait and see...

As far as the manufacturer of the parts doing anything on their own...most likely not...

[Rub]

So I got something made in China or Taiwan in the Spyder then?

Probably more than you really want to know.


Rub

[Firefly]

Probably more than you really want to know.


Rub

Spyder parts come from all over the place--- the backrest and racks are made in Vietnam.......:yikes:

[Way2Fast]

The wheels and tires come from China ....watch out for those valve stems !!

[boborgera]

--- the backrest and racks are made in Vietnam.......:yikes:

I bet i know where they found the metal to make the parts!

[M2Wild]

Yeah but if they pay for it w/ BRP, wouldn't ya think BRP would pay for it towards the customers? Or am I dreamin?
They get it fer free and charge us for it??? Yay, another money making racket for BRP. Ain't dat lovely.

[Smylinacha]

They get it fer free and charge us for it??? Yay, another money making racket for BRP. Ain't dat lovely.


:cus:

[dltang]

They get it fer free and charge us for it??? Yay, another money making racket for BRP. Ain't dat lovely.

I think you are jumping to conclusions here, this is all speculation right now. Someone made a post that they thought that is what is happening by some other internet info they found. I would never jump so fast based on just general speculative posts here.

[Firefly]

Perhaps one of these would come in handy.....:roflblack:

[NancysToy]

I think you are jumping to conclusions here, this is all speculation right now. Someone made a post that they thought that is what is happening by some other internet info they found. I would never jump so fast based on just general speculative posts here.
:agree:

[SpyderWolf]

Perhaps one of these would come in handy.....:roflblack:

Thanks, but I prefer my Magic 8 Ball. I just shook it and it said "Could Be". Now if I could only remember the question I asked it. :roflblack:

Way2Fast, do you think China will make higher quality parts once they receive your Spyder? :dontknow:

[Firefly]

Just FYI....... it does not appear there is a relation between the Spyder DPS failures and the recent automotive electronic steering recalls....


This is an article I recall(;)) seeing that mentioned the number of Spyders recalled-- and the manufacturer of the DPS:

http://green.autoblog.com/2009/06/11/nearly-10-000-can-am-spyders-recalled-over-faulty-steering/

Kongsberg Inc is Norwegian and pretty big in marine items.


The recent recalls of electronic power steering systems on various cars (like the Chevy Cobolt) are dealing with units made by Koyo Seiko Company:

http://www.examiner.com/x-18816-Cincinnati-Auto-Mechanic-Examiner~y2009m12d3-Electric-power-steering-how-it-works

[Yellow Spydeer]

BRP would have to issue a statement saying that they're going to warranty the DPS and whatever else for a period of time after a 'final' fix...whenever that is...it would make sense that they'd do this as there are major problems here...we'll have to wait and see...

As far as the manufacturer of the parts doing anything on their own...most likely not...

I called my dealer and they said my 2008 was on the steering recall list (in 2011?). I was # 14 on the list. They get a rebuilt steering unit and replaced mine. My # came up and they changed the steering unit and there is a tremendous improvement! I also called Wisconsin #'s (in your manual) and complained about the squeaky brakes. I said, "when I stop at a light the guy next to me asked if the brakes are always that loud and squeaky." Can Am said to have the tech department at my shop (not where I bought it) to give them a call. They did and replaced all three brake pads for $75. (normal charge for the recall, took about 1 and a half hours, cheap!) It almost steers too easy and stops perfectly quiet. I hope this helps.

[Trickie Dick]

I called my dealer and they said my 2008 was on the steering recall list (in 2011?). I was # 14 on the list. They get a rebuilt steering unit and replaced mine. My # came up and they changed the steering unit and there is a tremendous improvement! I also called Wisconsin #'s (in your manual) and complained about the squeaky brakes. I said, "when I stop at a light the guy next to me asked if the brakes are always that loud and squeaky." Can Am said to have the tech department at my shop (not where I bought it) to give them a call. They did and replaced all three brake pads for $75. (normal charge for the recall, took about 1 and a half hours, cheap!) It almost steers too easy and stops perfectly quiet. I hope this helps.
:welcome:Nice to have you aboard. Most of us have had this recall done. Everyone should. As far as the brakes, your dealer probably put the gen 3 pads on. It should take care of the squeaks.

[Firefly]

I called my dealer and they said my 2008 was on the steering recall list (in 2011?). I was # 14 on the list. They get a rebuilt steering unit and replaced mine. My # came up and they changed the steering unit and there is a tremendous improvement! I also called Wisconsin #'s (in your manual) and complained about the squeaky brakes. I said, "when I stop at a light the guy next to me asked if the brakes are always that loud and squeaky." Can Am said to have the tech department at my shop (not where I bought it) to give them a call. They did and replaced all three brake pads for $75. (normal charge for the recall, took about 1 and a half hours, cheap!) It almost steers too easy and stops perfectly quiet. I hope this helps.

Glad you got it all fixed--- but there shouldn't have been ANY charge for the DPS recall-- and it would have been a completely NEW - different version of the DPS.