Explain this please - How come the controls are pinned??

[SLICE]

How come the controls on the handlebars are pinned?

My right wrist is at such an awkward angle that I cramp up within an hour of riding. I'm tempted to cut the dang pin off, and to rotate the control to a comfortable angle.

More idiot engineering.

[safecracker]

That is what i would do. Bruce

[CopperSpyder]

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[cruisinTX]

As much as I detest engineers, this one may make some sense. It could be they are pinned in order to prevent rotation that would put undue strain on electrical connections. just food for thought before you do something you might regret.

I too, am not entirely happy with the stock bars but in a different way. I would prefer they be about six inches narrower while remaining at the same angle. Unfortunately, I don't think there is a way to remove three inches from each side without destroying things. I explored this a couple of years ago with the thread here (I think). :banghead:

[Haze]

I cut the pins off my handle bar controls.
They were interfering with the location I drilled to mount my mirrors.

[SLICE]

As much as I detest engineers, this one may make some sense. It could be they are pinned in order to prevent rotation that would put undue strain on electrical connections. just food for thought before you do something you might regret.

I too, am not entirely happy with the stock bars but in a different way. I would prefer they be about six inches narrower while remaining at the same angle. Unfortunately, I don't think there is a way to remove three inches from each side without destroying things. I explored this a couple of years ago with the thread here (I think). :banghead:

this is the first motorcycle i've owned were the controls are not adjustable.

[Peteoz]

I elongated the hole on my F3, Stephan. Worked perfectly. You don’t have to worry about cabling pressure as you don’t have to move them far to get them comfy.
On the ‘20+ RT, the aftermarket Helibars give you full adjustment. (Also on the F3 of course)……but it’s an expensive buy just for control movement.

Pete

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

How come the controls on the handlebars are pinned?

My right wrist is at such an awkward angle that I cramp up within an hour of riding. I'm tempted to cut the dang pin off, and to rotate the control to a comfortable angle.

More idiot engineering.

Safety, safety, safety. The last thing in the world you want is for the control and grip to rotate unrestrained while you're riding at 80 mph down the Interstate. It's held in place with screws, and screws do vibrate loose and/or break. The pinned position is set to be suitable for something like 85% plus of riders.

Go ahead and make a change for your own particular individual needs but make sure that whatever mod you make will keep the configuration just as safe as the original.

And lastly, as an engineer I do take offense at your characterization of it being idiot engineering. Just because it doesn't fit with your specific needs doesn't make it a bad design. Incompatible, yes. Bad, no.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

this is the first motorcycle i've owned were the controls are not adjustable.

According to posts on GL1800 Riders forum Goldwing controls are not adjustable.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

As much as I detest engineers, this one may make some sense. It could be they are pinned in order to prevent rotation that would put undue strain on electrical connections. just food for thought before you do something you might regret.

I too, am not entirely happy with the stock bars but in a different way. I would prefer they be about six inches narrower while remaining at the same angle. Unfortunately, I don't think there is a way to remove three inches from each side without destroying things. I explored this a couple of years ago with the thread here (I think). :banghead:

....BINGO ........... This is exactly why the are made this way, and it's not un-common. As I re-call I changed the pin location slightly to change the angle on an 08 and 11 models

[SLICE]

And lastly, as an engineer I do take offense at your characterization of it being idiot engineering. Just because it doesn't fit with your specific needs doesn't make it a bad design. Incompatible, yes. Bad, no.

as a retired industrial mechanic i worked with engineers for 31 years.... i know the game extremely well .

[SLICE]

According to posts on GL1800 Riders forum Goldwing controls are not adjustable.

never owned a honda. kawasaki's/ducati/ home built custom V twin/ 2 Harleys

[fredgal]

my controls are perfect position on my 2020 f3L for me...:popcorn:

[stebrock]

I rotated my controls to where I wanted them. Then marked the location and drilled a new hole. works great and they are still "locked/pinned" in place.

[FrogmanDave]

There is some adjustment as the hole is slotted. Just not enough for you apparently. Like others have said, I'm sure the pin is a safety device to keep the bars from rotating should the clamp become loose somehow. What has always baffled me is, the factory CanAm handlebar riser does away with the pin completely. Go figure.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

There is some adjustment as the hole is slotted. Just not enough for you apparently. Like others have said, I'm sure the pin is a safety device to keep the bars from rotating should the clamp become loose somehow. What has always baffled me is, the factory CanAm handlebar riser does away with the pin completely. Go figure.

We're talking about two different pins. Slice was asking about a pin to keep the controls from rotating on the handlebar. With the riser you're referring to a pin to keep the handlebar from rotating. Probably BRP recognizes the need to be able to rotate the handlebar to bring it into a comfortable position when it is raised above the steering column via the risers.

[FrogmanDave]

We're talking about two different pins. Slice was asking about a pin to keep the controls from rotating on the handlebar. With the riser you're referring to a pin to keep the handlebar from rotating. Probably BRP recognizes the need to be able to rotate the handlebar to bring it into a comfortable position when it is raised above the steering column via the risers.

I guess he did say controls. My bad. I am confused as to how this would make his wrist hurt after an hour of riding? Slice?

[Peteoz]

I guess he did say controls. My bad. I am confused as to how this would make his wrist hurt after an hour of riding? Slice?

Not speaking on Slice’s behalf, but from my experience, the stock bar was too close to me, forcing my wrists at an odd angle, Dave. To get the bar a decent distance from you requires rotating it. This puts the bar angle at an even more unfortunate upward angle. The same would go for rotating the bar toward you, except with a downward angle. With the set position of the controls this means you either have you wrists rolled over the top of the grips, or bent up. It gets quite uncomfortable, quite quickly. That’s where the Helibars really come into the own with the ability to adjust the angle of the controls :2thumbs:

Pete

[SLICE]

The outside cover on the switch housing is slotted also, it provides minimal adjustment.
I need to rotate it about an half inch clockwise.

1 - I could elongate the slot, but electronics for throttle... :yikes:.

2 - Pull pin out of switch housing.

3 - Buy outside switch housing cover and pull pin so I have a spare if things don't work out for me.

I'll call and order a switch housing cover on Monday.

Peteoz is correct, rotating the bars up has put the controls at an incredibly awful angle, but wait there's more - the left control is fully adjustable :banghead: and it is now in the perfect position.


I'm so fed up with all the design flaws on this machine that I'm about ready to sell and go back to Harley Davidson.

[Peteoz]

The left control is fully adjustable, Stephan? I’m not sure how that can be. It was the left hand handlebar hole that I had to elongate to rotate those controls. You only need say an extra 5mm of hole to give you 10mm or more of adjustment.

Why do you need to move the throttle side controls? There’s just one off controls there like Cruise, Starter, Hazard etc, unlike the left side with horn, indicators, shifter etc.

Pete

[SLICE]

The left control is fully adjustable, Stephan? I’m not sure how that can be. It was the left hand handlebar hole that I had to elongate to rotate those controls. You only need say an extra 5mm of hole to give you 10mm or more of adjustment.

Why do you need to move the throttle side controls? There’s just one off controls there like Cruise, Starter, Hazard etc, unlike the left side with horn, indicators, shifter etc.

Pete

Arthritis in my wrist has left me with limited mobility.

I need to have my wrist in a ''flat'' position when cruising, imagine your hand & wrist in a brace, now try to pivot your wrist... yeah.

[Peteoz]

Arthritis in my wrist has left me with limited mobility.

I need to have my wrist in a ''flat'' position when cruising, imagine your hand & wrist in a brace, now try to pivot your wrist... yeah.

Ahhhhhhh. Gotcha. Zero margin, eh :thumbup:

Pete

[RazzleH]

Safety, safety, safety. The last thing in the world you want is for the control and grip to rotate unrestrained while you're riding at 80 mph down the Interstate. It's held in place with screws, and screws do vibrate loose and/or break. The pinned position is set to be suitable for something like 85% plus of riders.

Go ahead and make a change for your own particular individual needs but make sure that whatever mod you make will keep the configuration just as safe as the original.

And lastly, as an engineer I do take offense at your characterization of it being idiot engineering. Just because it doesn't fit with your specific needs doesn't make it a bad design. Incompatible, yes. Bad, no.

Hmmmm! Safety, safety, safety but not for the placement of the cruise control being so close to the Kill Switch, as I discovered at 100+kph when changing lanes on a local freeway. Medical paddles were not needed to get this heart rushing. Kill Switch is now jammed and unswitchable. Maybe it is just silly me ... not knowing that I am supposed to be looking at the switch instead of tne road!!

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Hmmmm! Safety, safety, safety but not for the placement of the cruise control being so close to the Kill Switch, as I discovered at 100+kph when changing lanes on a local freeway.
Actually it's not that big of a deal. Just reach over immediately and switch it back on and continue on your merry way! Of course you do have to turn cruise control back on. I've accidentally turned mine off several times when reaching over to touch my tablet screen.

[PSL5082]

The outside cover on the switch housing is slotted also, it provides minimal adjustment.
I need to rotate it about an half inch clockwise.

1 - I could elongate the slot, but electronics for throttle... :yikes:.

2 - Pull pin out of switch housing.

3 - Buy outside switch housing cover and pull pin so I have a spare if things don't work out for me.

I'll call and order a switch housing cover on Monday.

Peteoz is correct, rotating the bars up has put the controls at an incredibly awful angle, but wait there's more - the left control is fully adjustable :banghead: and it is now in the perfect position.


I'm so fed up with all the design flaws on this machine that I'm about ready to sell and go back to Harley Davidson.

Hi,

I would like to rotate the left control upward a bit on my 2022, RTL but can't see a way to secure the controls once in the desired position. How did you do yours?

[pegasus1300]

It shouldn't be that hard to pull the pin rotate the grip to where you want it drill a new pin hole and away you go.

[SLICE]

Hi,

I would like to rotate the left control upward a bit on my 2022, RTL but can't see a way to secure the controls once in the desired position. How did you do yours?

Just loosen all the screws and turn to desired position, that's all I had to do for the left control.

[Jetfixer]

FYI, F3 handlebars will work perfectly on your bike. I switched to the Attitude bars to get my wrist angle corrected.