Electric Windshield adjustment bar broke. Any suggestions?

[DocAMVETS]

I have a 2010 Can Am Spyder RT, and the bar that makes the windshield go up and down broke. I've been trying to fix it with JB Weld, and it's not working. I called a dealer, who said I had to buy the entire assembly, in order to replace this one part - and it would cost around $800.00 just for the assembly. Having it installed would be extra.

Does anyone have any suggestions for either fixing it, or how to get just that one piece? It's the bar that come out, and attaches to the windshield.

HELP!!!

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I have a 2010 Can Am Spyder RT, and the bar that makes the windshield go up and down broke. I've been trying to fix it with JB Weld, and it's not working. I called a dealer, who said I had to buy the entire assembly, in order to replace this one part - and it would cost around $800.00 just for the assembly. Having it installed would be extra.

Does anyone have any suggestions for either fixing it, or how to get just that one piece? It's the bar that come out, and attaches to the windshield.

HELP!!!

Well that dealer apparantly doesn't know BRP ( after many years of owner complaints ) decided they would sell you the ARM without the entire motor mechanism etc. .... So the ARM by itself IS available ..... However it is the same CRAPPY arm your Spyder came with.... A member on the forum created a SOLID aluminum copy that most folks buy contact " Noboot " about getting one.... His comes with shims / tools and good instructions ..... good luck ...... a couple years before the " Noboot " option I was able to weld two plates on either side of the arm using a strap around the entire ARM .... mine has been solid since 2015 .... Mike :thumbup:

[Peter Aawen]

As Mike says, Doc, send a PM to Noboot & he'll sort you out. :thumbup:

You might even find that Lamonster has a version too, altho it might come without all the wedges etc that make Ron's (noboot) so good.

But when it comes to the OEM excuse for a windscreen support arm, I wouldn't use another OEM arm if THEY paid ME $800 to do it... :shocked: Now if they made it $8000, then ......maybe... :rolleyes:


Check these out:

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?72862-Replace-the-Windsheld-Arm-with-Billet-Aluminum-Arm

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?142344-Replacing-OEM-windshield-lift-arm-with-aftermarket-billet-one-from-noboot

And for the dealer that doesn't know his products...

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?114001-RT-Center-Windshield-Arm-now-sold-by-BRP-with-new-plastic-arm



Good Luck! :cheers:

[Mikey]

Did mine last year Noboot is a real standup guy, great to work with and makes a GREAT part!!!!:2thumbs:

[LongIsland]

The same thing happened to me as well. I didn't find it on Lamonster's site but did find the billet replacement arm at https://www.canamspyderaccessories.com/. They provide free shipping but I requested overnight which they did at no additional cost. Great response from Pierre and his staff.

[DocAMVETS]

Thank you so much. I've been dealing with this for 4 days now, and I am getting VERY FRUSTRATED !!! That website has exactly what I need.

[Wmoater]

You will need to message him to confirm this fits yours but here is his eBay store “I think?” I just sent him a PM myself. Just installed a 28 inch F4 and concerned the Oem might break. Want one on standby for if and when it does.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255606996884?hash=item3b835d3f94:g:nnUAAOSwle9hSRi E

[Wmoater]

Is Pierre’s black alloy arm made by noboot? Is it the Same kit with all the wedges and tools just distributed out of Canada? Anyone know?

[noboot]

Is Pierre’s black alloy arm made by noboot? Is it the Same kit with all the wedges and tools just distributed out of Canada? Anyone know?

No that is not my Arm and it made differently to my one. For me it's the opposition and a bit of competition. Our was the first replacement outside of the BRP replacement.

[Wmoater]

Thanks for the reply noboot and PM! Reply sent.

[missouriboy]

... Just installed a 28 inch F4 and concerned the Oem might break. Want one on standby for if and when it does.Here's the tip I learned on this Forum long ago... never ryde with your windshield all the way down. It's the constant road-shock that breaks those weak arms. After lowering your windshield, bump it back up just a tad, to get it off the "bottom-rest."

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Here's the tip I learned on this Forum long ago... never ryde with your windshield all the way down. It's the constant road-shock that breaks those weak arms. After lowering your windshield, bump it back up just a tad, to get it off the "bottom-rest."

Well it actually doesn't ..... When I researched improving the OEM Arm, ( by covering it with 20 ga. steel stock ) ... I discovered the Arm doesn't actually rest on anything .....How do I know this - I put a piece of PAPER under the ARM just before it stopped. I let go of the paper and it Fell out, the Arm wasn't touching it. I posted this info a few times over the last 6 or 7 years. .... the Arm works just like an elevator mechanism does .... It stops , ( via a magnetic trigger ) but not because it rests on anything .... not even on the ground floor :roflblack::roflblack: ..... another Urban legend dis-proved ....... Mike :thumbup:

[ThreeWheels]

Here's the tip I learned on this Forum long ago... never ryde with your windshield all the way down. It's the constant road-shock that breaks those weak arms. After lowering your windshield, bump it back up just a tad, to get it off the "bottom-rest."

I've heard that same story, but in my opinion, it's incorrect.
I noticed on my 2010 Spyder that the whole support was loose. Whenever I went over a bump, the windshield would twist. This twist was, in turn, transmitted to the windshield arm. I broke two of them on my 2010 Spyder.
Back in 2010, the mechanism to raise and lower the windshield was sold as a complete unit. It was not designed for repair. The power arm was not available as a separate piece.
At the time, BRP paid for both repairs, once under the standard warranty and the second under BEST.
When I got my 2014 Spyder, BRP changed the conditions of BEST, calling the windshield arm a "body part" and therefore not covered.
I observed that the entire mechanism on the windshield was identical to the 2010
The first thing I did was replace the arm with one from noboot as preventive maintenance, before the OEM arm even had a chance to break.
The mechanism was not designed for repair, replacing the arm was not straighforward, but doable, thanks to noboot and his crew.
I've noticed on my 2020 Spyder, the power arm appears to be the same design as the original, but it's covered in black paint so I can't be certain.
The windshield is significantly better supported and doesn't twist over bumps, so I'm hopeful that it will be more reliable.
BRP now sells the arm as a repair part, so I'm assuming replacing the arm is easier.
Still, if and when the time comes, I will get the replacement part from noboot. I'll just have to paint it black before I install it.

As always, my free advice comes with a double your money back guarantee.

[missouriboy]

I'll just have to paint it black before I install it.! roflmao

[LongIsland]

Just wanted to update you on my quest for the windshield arm bracket repair and its installation.
I made an appointment (2 weeks ago) at my dealer as I have no place to do major repairs. In the meantime, I removed the windshield so I could ride and searched for the part. I ordered it from an online vendor with the part number found here on spyderlovers. After a 10 day wait it arrived but was incorrect. As my appt. was less than a week away, I ordered the part from canamspyderaccessories.com and requested next day delivery. They called me to confirm both the delivery request and my address and then sent it overnight with no delivery charges. A tip of the helmet to Pierre and Lydia.
I brought the part, Spyder and windshield to my dealer at 10 AM yesterday. At 1:30 PM yesterday, Phil the technician called me that all was done. I am happy with the service and turn-around time from Formula 1 and with canamspyderaccessories for their accommodation for a customer.
If I hadn't provided the part, it would have been at least another week without the windshield causing me to cancel some long ride trips.

Ride Safe.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Just wanted to update you on my quest for the windshield arm bracket repair and its installation.
I made an appointment (2 weeks ago) at my dealer as I have no place to do major repairs. In the meantime, I removed the windshield so I could ride and searched for the part. I ordered it from an online vendor with the part number found here on spyderlovers. After a 10 day wait it arrived but was incorrect. As my appt. was less than a week away, I ordered the part from canamspyderaccessories.com and requested next day delivery. They called me to confirm both the delivery request and my address and then sent it overnight with no delivery charges. A tip of the helmet to Pierre and Lydia.
I brought the part, Spyder and windshield to my dealer at 10 AM yesterday. At 1:30 PM yesterday, Phil the technician called me that all was done. I am happy with the service and turn-around time from Formula 1 and with canamspyderaccessories for their accommodation for a customer.
If I hadn't provided the part, it would have been at least another week without the windshield causing me to cancel some long ride trips.

Ride Safe.

Interesting - glad you got it fixed ..... however I can't understand how the first part was " in-correct " ie. didn't fit ??? .... the ARM is the same for ALL RT's that have them ...... JMHO .... Mike :thumbup:

[davev1pa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ62VCiIe70

[davev1pa]

The two aftermarket replacement windshield arms are different:


1. In color - chromed in Aussie and black in Canada..
2. When using the chromed replacement from Australia you can speak and swear in English. Sh#@
3. When using the black replacement you should only swear in French whilst replacing. Merde.

Both providers have been supporters of Spyder riders. Noboot (Aussie) was the first to supply the arm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ62VCiIe70 to provide product and details.

Pierre (Canada) has been supplying many parts and accessories and education for Spyder riders for a variety of items.

I buy from both suppliers but I bought the arm from noboot and some electronics from Pierre before he supplied the arms

[LongIsland]

Interesting - glad you got it fixed ..... however I can't understand how the first part was " in-correct " ie. didn't fit ??? .... the ARM is the same for ALL RT's that have them ...... JMHO .... Mike :thumbup:

Mike, I ordered BRP part 705013108 (from a post here), I received 219800321 Arm - Rear Assembly. If you search on BRP's site 705013108, comes up as a door for a can am Maverick with a different number. So if anyone needs 219800321 I have one. Anyway, as I wrote everything worked out.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Mike, I ordered BRP part 705013108 (from a post here), I received 219800321 Arm - Rear Assembly. If you search on BRP's site 705013108, comes up as a door for a can am Maverick with a different number. So if anyone needs 219800321 I have one. Anyway, as I wrote everything worked out.

Thanks for answering me ..... So you didn't receive an ARM that wouldn't fit ...... you received a part that wasn't even an ARM .....:thumbup::thumbup: ......... Mike

[UtahPete]

The two aftermarket replacement windshield arms are different:


1. In color - chromed in Aussie and black in Canada..
2. When using the chromed replacement from Australia you can speak and swear in English. Sh#@
3. When using the black replacement you should only swear in French whilst replacing. Merde.

Both providers have been supporters of Spyder riders. Noboot (Aussie) was the first to supply the arm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ62VCiIe70 to provide product and details.

Pierre (Canada) has been supplying many parts and accessories and education for Spyder riders for a variety of items.

I buy from both suppliers but I bought the arm from noboot and some electronics from Pierre before he supplied the arms

I believe noboot's arm is polished billet aluminum, not chrome plated metal.

[UtahPete]

Just wanted to update you on my quest for the windshield arm bracket repair and its installation.
I made an appointment (2 weeks ago) at my dealer as I have no place to do major repairs. In the meantime, I removed the windshield so I could ride and searched for the part. I ordered it from an online vendor with the part number found here on spyderlovers. After a 10 day wait it arrived but was incorrect. As my appt. was less than a week away, I ordered the part from canamspyderaccessories.com and requested next day delivery. They called me to confirm both the delivery request and my address and then sent it overnight with no delivery charges. A tip of the helmet to Pierre and Lydia.
I brought the part, Spyder and windshield to my dealer at 10 AM yesterday. At 1:30 PM yesterday, Phil the technician called me that all was done. I am happy with the service and turn-around time from Formula 1 and with canamspyderaccessories for their accommodation for a customer.
If I hadn't provided the part, it would have been at least another week without the windshield causing me to cancel some long ride trips.

Ride Safe.

What is Pierre's product made from?

[noboot]

I believe noboot's arm is polished billet aluminum, not chrome plated metal.

That is correct it's polished Billet Aluminum, and the work involved in making these units is extensive and 100% effort goes in making each one. It's not a robotic production line.

The OEM arms from BRP from 2020 on are painted black and the only thing that does is to hide the tell-tale crack that appears just before they break. We tell all our Spyder friends to check their arm on their Spyder at least once a month, just have a little look and if you see any cracking be aware.

Cheers

[Dubliner]

It doesn't look the same, however it would be cheaper to get with less postage if any compared to Noboot's version.

https://www.canamspyderaccessories.com/rt-series-replacement-arm-for-windshield-black/

[noboot]

It doesn't look the same, however it would be cheaper to get with less postage if any compared to Noboot's version.

https://www.canamspyderaccessories.com/rt-series-replacement-arm-for-windshield-black/

Competition is good and healthy, their arm is close to $20+ more expensive than our one and no doubt we believe ours is by far a better construction. It all comes down to consumer choice.

[KAMJAM]

Good thread as we both have F4 windscreens on our RT's. Both screens are taller, wider and heavier. Plus we have some really bad secondary roads that really get things bouncing.

I really like the look the arms from Noboot, so 2 of them will be arriving by 11/1!

Thanks again for the discussion.
Ken

[ks4hcoach]

Interesting thread and several good options to replace what appears to be "Not IF it breaks but WHEN it breaks" stock adjustable windscreen arm on the Spyder RTs.

I have a 2021 RTL with 8800 miles and the stock arm is still intact, I think. But reading about the many Spyder owners who had the stock arm break, I felt it best to be prepared. Ron (Noboot), from what I have read, was the first person to make and distribute a high quality replacement for the crack-prone stock arm. Everything I have read on his replacement has been very good so I contacted him a bit over a week ago about pricing, delivery time, and terms to buy. He was very responsive and very helpful, so I ordered one of his replacement windscreen arm kits (arm plus 3 wedges to help remove the old arm from the hex shaft that drives it.)

The kit arrived today via DHL. It was extremely well packaged, and, DHL was in contact with me regarding delivery terms. All in all, a perfect transaction from start to finish!

The arm is polished, billet aluminum and has a very good finish and also well radiused corners and edges on all machined areas. It is a polished, shiny aluminum finish...and I will NOT be painting it black for it would be a shame to cover up the very nice machine work on display.

Nice product Noboot, with service and followup to match!

Thanks again,

Rod

[EdMat]

What's the latest year model that one has broken on?

[noboot]

Rod, Glad it arrived safely. and a great write up, thanks.

Safe riding, Ron (noboot)

[ks4hcoach]

Hi Ron,

You are welcome and, looking closer, I see your kit came with 2 wedges and 3 spacers to use with the wedges when removing the original arm, rather than the three that I mentioned in the original post. These all look useful.

Thanks again,

Rod

[Mikey]

What's the latest year model that one has broken on?

I cannot tell you what you want to hear, but I can tell you keep Noboots in your favorites file, if yours breaks it's worth every penny to get one of his arms, it will be a one and done!!!:2thumbs:

[EdMat]

I cannot tell you what you want to hear, but I can tell you keep Noboots in your favorites file, if yours breaks it's worth every penny to get one of his arms, it will be a one and done!!!:2thumbs:

Oh, I completely agree. Had that bookmarked for a couple of years.

[Peter Aawen]

What's the latest year model that one has broken on?

I personally haven't seen any of the 'new style' RT's with this 'broken windscreen lift arm' issue, maybe Ron could comment on that; but I have seen a broken arm on one or more of every year/model of the original style RT's... :shocked:

I guess it's a similar thing to the dodgy OE Sway Bar links - it's pretty clearly an endemic 'poor choice of materials' problem with our Spyders/this adjustable windscreen set-up that's taken a while to reveal itself; or maybe BRP knew from the set-to they wouldn't last all that long/well, but decided that since most failures would be on Spyders that were out of their warranty period, the 'cheaper choice' was to just not bother resolving it/upgrading the materials used?!? :dontknow: That wouldn't be the first time, nor would it be a decision unique to BRP on something like that?! :banghead:

[ThreeWheels]

I personally haven't seen any of the 'new style' RT's with this 'broken windscreen lift arm' issue, maybe Ron could comment on that; but I have seen a broken arm on one or more of every year/model of the original style RT's... :shocked:

I guess it's a similar thing to the dodgy OE Sway Bar links - it's pretty clearly an endemic 'poor choice of materials' problem with our Spyders/this adjustable windscreen set-up that's taken a while to reveal itself; or maybe BRP knew from the set-to they wouldn't last all that long/well, but decided that since most failures would be on Spyders that were out of their warranty period, the 'cheaper choice' was to just not bother resolving it/upgrading the materials used?!? :dontknow: That wouldn't be the first time, nor would it be a decision unique to BRP on something like that?! :banghead:

I only have a "seat of the pants" observation.

On both my 2010 and 2014 RT's, when I hit a bump or pothole, I could see the windshield shake in a way that it appeared to rotate around that center arm. This of course, stressed it until it eventually broke.
You could also rotate the windshield by hand if you grabbed it.
On my 2020, the center arm is painted black, but it appears to be made the same as previous models.
The major difference is that the windshield seems tighter and doesn't shake as much over the bumps. It doesn't rotate much by hand either.
I'm hoping that BRP has solved the problem by beefing up the windshield supports.

[noboot]

As Peter and ThreeWheels have commented The Windscreen Arm in the newer models (after 2019) are painted black but are still the same manufacture since 2010. And in my opinion all the painted black will do is hide the possibility of seeing any cracks that might appear. Also if the windscreen on the newer models are fitting tighter ("beefing up the windshield supports") and not "Rotating" as much it would be taking less stress off that Centre arm and less chance of it cracking and breaking, I sure hope so.

[Jetfixer]

I recently replaced the windshield arm on a friends 2012 RT. I advised him to get noboot's arm, but he bought Pierre's. Pierre's arm seems to be good quality but there are differences. For anyone wanting to do this repair themselves, you'll need a lot of patience. Pierre's arm did not come with any wedges or spacers. If you do not have wedges similar to what noboot shows in his video and supplies, you will more than likely break the black plastic drive gear. In this case, you are done. Also, noboot's arm appears to me to be fully broached on the internal cavity for the shaft and utilizes the two roll pins. Pierre's is only broached about an inch and does not utilize the roll pins, but comes with a set screw to keep it in place. Other than these differences I can't comment as to quality of the metal.