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vito1943
03-18-2022, 11:37 AM
I’ve been riding motorcycles for close to 40 years, but shortly after I traded in the Goldwing for a new RT I had to renew my driver’s license. Being over 75 that included an actual driving test, and to keep my motorcycle endorsement I had to take the motorcycle driving test. Then I discovered that by taking the test on a three wheeler, my license limits me to three wheelers only. So to get my full endorsement re-instated, I will be taking the basic rider’s class next weekend. I’m hoping it’s fun getting back on a 250cc two wheeler and taking a class that I myself taught for ten years. I don’t see giving up my Spyder as my primary ride, but it would be nice to be able to legally buy and ride a small displacement bike for around town. I’m sure that the class has changed since I last taught it back in 2001, but hopefully I can pass it easily.

Piratezz
03-18-2022, 01:54 PM
Just enjoy the exam, I am sure, that you will pass this test/exam with ease....
as being an instructor for many years...., butter up de examinator,, tell him stories bout the old days, might even show him some emotion (not being dramatic)

I think you understand what I mean, if the examinator has a heart, why not appeal to it...
In the group where I ride with, there is a guy who is 85, in good health (ex-marine), and he drives the hell outta his machine...he has two, one being a nice touring bike, and a 750cc racer, so that shows, you are never to old to enjoy life...

Raven
03-18-2022, 03:20 PM
Here none of the three wheel classes start till June.:gaah:
Signed up for a course yesterday. It's going to be a long three months.:banghead:

gkamer
03-18-2022, 04:12 PM
Then I discovered that by taking the test on a three wheeler, my license limits me to three wheelers only.

That’s how it is in Washington (the state not the swamp) now. You need a separate two and three wheeled endorsement.

Elwood58
03-18-2022, 05:20 PM
That’s how it is in Washington (the state not the swamp) now. You need a separate two and three wheeled endorsement.

In Washington, doesn’t the two wheel endorsement cover three wheelers as well?

bigbadbrucie
03-18-2022, 06:14 PM
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In Washington, doesn’t the two wheel endorsement cover three wheelers as well?

That’s the way it is up here in British Columbia. If you test on a two wheeler, you can legally ride a three wheeler, but if you test on a three wheeler, that’s all you can ride.

Little Blue
03-19-2022, 05:14 AM
:coffee: By all means, take the Two Wheels Class. If you have the skills and still enjoy Two Wheel Ryde Time.
Here in Indiana we have both types of endorsements.
The Three Wheel is only good for '3 Wheel' Ryding.
Two Wheel works for Both..... :yes:

gkamer
03-19-2022, 10:01 AM
In Washington, doesn’t the two wheel endorsement cover three wheelers as well?

It used to. But they changed the law on Jan 1st, 2020 which now requires you to have a separate endorsement for two wheeled and three wheeled vehicles. There was a Spyder demo ride in the summer of 2020 that I talked a few of my 2 wheeled rider friends into taking part in. I told them it would be a fun day and afterwards we could take our own ride. So the five of us, me on my Ryker at the time, and they on their 2 wheels ride the 60+ miles to the dealership. We all thought the same thing, 2 wheel endorsement covers three wheels. Got there and learned we were wrong. My friends insisted I go ahead on the demo ride anyway and they would wait for me to get back. Then we all took a nice ride up to and around the Mt. Spokane area.

Getting a three wheeled endorsement here is not too difficult, but getting a 2 wheel endorsement can be a hassle. First you have to attend a Motorcycle Rider Safety Course and take and pass a written and five skill test to get your permit. You can use the schools motorcycles for that. If you pass, you have to wait three days to allow time for the school to enter you into the DMV data base, then you go to DMV and get the permit added to your license. You then have 180 days to go back to the school, this time with your own motorcycle, and take another written and skills test. If you pass that, you wait three days, and then you go back to DMV to have the two wheeled endorsement added to your license. You can apply for one 180 day extension, as long as your permit has not expired. If you have still haven't applied for your endorsement after the second 180 day period you have to wait 5 years to reapply.

BCNewell
03-19-2022, 12:45 PM
^^^^ Government thinking at its finest ...

Piratezz
03-19-2022, 02:47 PM
I think goverments, all over the world are the same, just overthinking on a seemingly simple thing :)
Thank god, that engineers, don't over engineer things... hahaha

Plarimer
03-20-2022, 07:23 AM
I take a rider’s course every 5 to 7 years. One it’s an easy way to keep your endorsement and two you’d be surprised the bad habits that have formed over the years. And as a plus it’s a nice way to meet new riders.