Opinions wanted: Spyder vs HD trikes

[RideOn]

I’ve ridden Harley-Davidsons for more than 30 years and still own one. But I now have trouble with balance and ride on 2 wheels infrequently. In 2017 I got my first Spyder, a 2014 ST, and now have a 2019 RT Limited. I’m very pleased with the Spyders, but honestly the one thing that bothers me without citing a specific cause is they are NOT Harleys. I fully realize that’s a two-edged sword.

I had an opportunity yesterday to take a Harley Freewheeler trike for a demo ride. I was disappointed in how it sat (felt cramped) and how it rode (choppy and rough). I walked away with the impression that tHe HD trike wasn’t for me. Maybe the Spyder just has me spoiled.

I have not ridden an HD TriGlide so I can’t speak to those directly, but I expect it is not too different from the Freewheeler. Both are based on the Harley touring chassis, although one is a 3 wheeled RoadKing and the other a 3 wheeled ElectraGlide.

I’m looking for opinions from those of you with experience in both camps. Which do you like better, Can-Am or HD? Can you tell me briefly why or give me a little insight on the pros and cons?

Thanks in advance for any contribution you care to make.
Bob

[rjinaz86323]

Rode Harleys for decades with the last 5 years being on a TrIGlide.

Harley has better seat and infotainment system

Everything else is better on Spyder except I miss the handbrake

[Eckhard]

Check out "Tilting Motor Works". A reverse trike that tilts:shocked:

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Back in 09, after years of progressing " balance issues ", I began looking for an alternative to my Gold Wings. ... I tried a HD trike and a GW trike and decided it was all over for my Motorcycling days. Then a friend of mine suggested we go test ride the recent Can-Am Spyder. The GS was no touring bike, however it did have handling qualities that appealed to me. .... I was so impressed I traded my 03 Wing, that day .... Three Spyder's later, I still love my 14 RT, and it will probably last ( I'm 74 1/2 ).... It still amazes me how different the two types of Trikes are, all things considered ... I drive at 9/10ths in the twistie's and can't imagine doing anywhere near those speeds, on a conventional Trike .. JMHO .... Mike :thumbup:

[RideOn]

Check out "Tilting Motor Works". A reverse trike that tilts:shocked:

Thanks for your input. I’ve seen those but I’m not a likely customer. Nowhere near me to get one installed or serviced either.

Bob

[RideOn]

Rode Harleys for decades with the last 5 years being on a TrIGlide.

Harley has better seat and infotainment system

Everything else is better on Spyder except I miss the handbrake

Just curious, is the ride on the TriGlide choppy and bumpy compared to the Spyder? I agree with your assessment of the seat and dash system. Now that I’m used to the single foot brake, I don’t miss the hand brake much.

Thanks for your input,
Bob

[RideOn]

Back in 09, after years of progressing " balance issues ", I began looking for an alternative to my Gold Wings. ... I tried a HD trike and a GW trike and decided it was all over for my Motorcycling days. Then a friend of mine suggested we go test ride the recent Can-Am Spyder. The GS was no touring bike, however it did have handling qualities that appealed to me. .... I was so impressed I traded my 03 Wing, that day .... Three Spyder's later, I still love my 14 RT, and it will probably last ( I'm 74 1/2 ).... It still amazes me how different the two types of Trikes are, all things considered ... I drive at 9/10ths in the twistie's and can't imagine doing anywhere near those speeds, on a conventional Trike .. JMHO .... Mike :thumbup:

Thanks, Mike. After the crash that affected my balance, I really liked and was grateful for the stability of the Spyder. I still am. Exploring some options out of curiosity… and likely a touch of loyalty to HD.

Bob

[RICZ]

I've have two Tri-Glide owners tell me they wish they bought a Spyder instead. If that doesn't speak paragraphs, nothing will.
BTW...Ever hear one moving in reverse? Sounds like a tin can half full of pebbles being shaken. How embarrassing.

[RideOn]

I've have two Tri-Glide owners tell me they wish they bought a Spyder instead. If that doesn't speak paragraphs, nothing will.
BTW...Ever hear one moving in reverse? Sounds like a tin can half full of pebbles being shaken. How embarrassing.

Probably the result of reverse being driven by the starter instead of the drivetrain.

Certainly not a great decision by Harley’s engineers.

Thanks,
Bob

[rjinaz86323]

With the Spyder you feel the bumps more in your upper body as it is transmitted through the handlebars. On the TriGlide, with the sold axle, all the movement is transmitted through your butt. So you really notice it more, especially the passenger.


Just curious, is the ride on the TriGlide choppy and bumpy compared to the Spyder? I agree with your assessment of the seat and dash system. Now that I’m used to the single foot brake, I don’t miss the hand brake much.

Thanks for your input,
Bob

[RideOn]

With the Spyder you feel the bumps more in your upper body as it is transmitted through the handlebars. On the TriGlide, with the sold axle, all the movement is transmitted through your butt. So you really notice it more, especially the passenger.

Thanks very much, that is consistent with what I felt on the Freewheeler. Lots of “feedback” from my butt, not much from my hands. Not exactly pleasant, probably even worse on a long ride.

[rayeade]

There are only two shortcomings on the Spyder that keep me on my Tri-Glide. The clam shell opening on the hard bags and the BRP Connect system. If CamAm would adopt the Apple Car Play/Android Car and fix the saddlebag problem then I would replace my Try-Glide immediately. My wife has a 2016 F3 and I like it.

[Lew L]

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Last May we went to the "Run- a- Mucca" motorcycle rally in Winnemucca Nv. In the middle of Nowhere, Nv. My friend Jake organized one of the events (timed) where three wheelers went through cones forwards and backwards . There were only 4 trikes entered. I won nojoke. Lifting a front wheel whilst reversing garnered me a code, which went away with a turning of the key.

. . The harley trike came in a distance last.

Lew L

[RideOn]

There are only two shortcomings on the Spyder that keep me on my Tri-Glide. The clam shell opening on the hard bags and the BRP Connect system. If CamAm would adopt the Apple Car Play/Android Car and fix the saddlebag problem then I would replace my Try-Glide immediately. My wife has a 2016 F3 and I like it.

I certainly agree with you about BRP Connect. You are correct, if BRP would just adopt Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, like most if not all auto manufacturers, Connect would be miles ahead of its current state.

Thank you,
Bob

[ARtraveler]

I’ve ridden Harley-Davidsons for more than 30 years and still own one. But I now have trouble with balance and ride on 2 wheels infrequently. In 2017 I got my first Spyder, a 2014 ST, and now have a 2019 RT Limited. I’m very pleased with the Spyders, but honestly the one thing that bothers me without citing a specific cause is they are NOT Harleys. I fully realize that’s a two-edged sword.

I had an opportunity yesterday to take a Harley Freewheeler trike for a demo ride. I was disappointed in how it sat (felt cramped) and how it rode (choppy and rough). I walked away with the impression that tHe HD trike wasn’t for me. Maybe the Spyder just has me spoiled.

I have not ridden an HD TriGlide so I can’t speak to those directly, but I expect it is not too different from the Freewheeler. Both are based on the Harley touring chassis, although one is a 3 wheeled RoadKing and the other a 3 wheeled ElectraGlide.

I’m looking for opinions from those of you with experience in both camps. Which do you like better, Can-Am or HD? Can you tell me briefly why or give me a little insight on the pros and cons?

Thanks in advance for any contribution you care to make.
Bob

Sounds to me like you already know the main differences between the two. And...you have actually owned two different Spyders. I got as far as a test sit on a Tri-Glide in 2010. I did not like the ergos, when I started it up, I just did not like it, AND, the dealer wanted a $5000 premium (administrative?) fee over and above the MSRP. No deals, no trades, just take it or leave it. I left it, and the 2010 RT soon was in my possession.

In my whole career of driving motorcycles, I have never been bitten by the HD magic.

Have owned many assorted two wheelers since 1965. All rice burners, and Spyders. Have had at least three of each of all the rice burner brands. From 80cc to 2000cc in size.

[dbh999]

I’ve ridden Harley-Davidsons for more than 30 years and still own one...

I’m looking for opinions from those of you with experience in both camps. Which do you like better, Can-Am or HD? Can you tell me briefly why or give me a little insight on the pros and cons?

Thanks in advance for any contribution you care to make.
Bob

We test rode both the Harley Tri-Glide and a Spyder RTL. The two main difference we noted were:
1. Turning versus going straight. With two wheels pushing from the rear, the Harley tracked really straight, so if most of our riding was highways then the Harley would have been our choice. However, to me that seemed to translate into more effort required for steering through the turns in the mountains. With two wheels steering in the front and the power-assisted steering, the Spyder seemed much easier to ride through the mountain turns, with the slight downside that it seemed a little 'twitchier" on the highway in a cross wind. Since most of our riding is in the mountains, the Spyder was better for us.
2. Suspension soaking up bumps and potholes in the road. With independent front axles on the Spyder, it soaked up the bumps relatively well. The Harley with a fixed rear axle seemed to jar us more when hitting a bump or pothole.

Since I have ridden mostly Harleys, I really wanted to like the Tri-Glide better, but for us in the mountains the Spyder was the clear winner. As I mentioned before, if most of our riding was on highway trips, we would have gone with the Harley Tri-Glide.

[RICZ]

There are only two shortcomings on the Spyder that keep me on my Tri-Glide. The clam shell opening on the hard bags and the BRP Connect system. If CamAm would adopt the Apple Car Play/Android Car and fix the saddlebag problem then I would replace my Try-Glide immediately. My wife has a 2016 F3 and I like it.
I'm sure glad that music plays no part in my riding. So the problems others are experiencing with Connect - or any music device for that matter - don't affect me one bit.
As for clamshell cases, I don't see a problem. I did secure with sheet metal screws, the piece that helps to hold items in. It's now rock solid and can't move. And I always make certain they are latched well.
I tried a trike and found many things about them I wouldn't put up with. As mentioned previously.

[Rednaxs60]

A major difference between the Spyder and HD Tri-Glide is towing. The Spyder is specifically designed to tow a trailer, and BRP has a trailer hitch and trailer option. The HD Tri-Glide does not have an HD towing package that I have found mentioned. It is probably not recommended to even though it is probably done with an aftermarket setup. Warranty issues come into play with this as well. Manufacturers are doing whatever necessary to limit its liability and pay out of warranty claims. If you don't tow a trailer, no issue, if you are going to, ask the question. Just a thought. Cheers.

[Baron14y]

My son has an Electroglide Classic with a trike conversion kit on it. The major benefit of the conversion, other then total cost, is that it has an independent rear suspension with auto tires on it. BIG difference. :yes:

[RideOn]

My son has an Electroglide Classic with a trike conversion kit on it. The major benefit of the conversion, other then total cost, is that it has an independent rear suspension with auto tires on it. BIG difference. :yes:

A solid axle is okay on a pickup or off road (e.g. Jeep Wrangler) because of the intended use. But I agree that an IRS would be a much better choice for a trike.

[vito1943]

Check out "Tilting Motor Works". A reverse trike that tilts:shocked:

Over the last several years I have seen the Tilting Motor Works mentioned as an alternative to getting a trike. Undeniably it is attractive since it seems to offer the stability of three wheels and the leaning ability of two. But despite being mentioned on many, many forums, I have yet to meet anyone that actually has one. And I have read a few things which really gave me pause. One was the concern for how it works on a road with significant camber, with the writer stating that the wheels locked upright, causing the bike to be dangerously tilted to the low side of the road. Another comment was that it was very ponderous to turn at slow speed. And then there is the cost factor, making it much more costly than a normal trike conversion. I considered the Tilting Wheel solution, as well as other trike conversions for my Goldwing, but then decided to just trade in the Goldwing and get a new RT. Very happy with my decision.

[RideOn]

I admit I've learned some things; for example, that a Harley trike actually does have a rear suspension. The one I rode on Saturday was either a poor design or poor execution, as it felt more like a hardtail. Probably the most important bit for me was the recognition that the forces encountered by the rear wheels are fed into the seat, and therefore directly into the rider's back.

I cannot say that I have ever had my Spyder ride poorly, and I've never felt beat up by it. I do wish at times I had a different seat, although the rider backrest I added recently helps quite a lot. Many threads here to assist with that question.

You are more than welcome to continue adding to this discussion, as every reply has brought forth a different aspect to consider. But it seems evident, as I noted in my opening statement, that my Spyder has spoiled me and remains a better choice from the rider's perspective. I'm also interested to see what changes are in store with the 2022 models.

My thanks to everyone for their input. :bowdown:

Bob

[2dogs]

I/we, my wife and I feel the same as dbh99. After I signed the check I realized my spyder was about $10k less than the HD, comparably. Also, the two wheels in front gave more stability and greater control during a panic stop. From there on it was down to comfort and a much safer feeling and control while on mountain roads and later at freeway speeds. The HD reverse was a major downer and the spyder had much more storage space. My friend's HD trike had to set in his garage, alone and unridden, for 6 months while he and HD battelled it in court using the "lemon law" here in mexifornia. HD finally patched up their problem and my friend settled but is still not pleased with his HD. I think I'd go postal if I couldn't ride for 6 months. Just joking of course.

[rjinaz86323]

As stated in my previous reply I rode Harleys for years. One big difference I forgot to mention is power. The. TriGlide is greatly underpowered. If you live in the flatland it is fine, but in the mountains it really sucks. Especially on the freeway.

[beachbumPC]

I bought a 2015 F3 with 2000 miles on it. In the 12 months I owned it I put 7500 miles on it before selling it. Here is how the 12 months went.
It was laser aligned when I got it.
At 4000 miles the front rotors warped, new pads and rotors.
At 5000 miles the front tires bad, coudn't go over 55mph too dangerous. Replaced with car tires.
At 5050 miles replaced sway bar, the wind really moves it around.
At 5200 miles bad belt vibration above 70mph added a belt tensioner. At least I could do 70 safely now!
At 8000 miles the rear tire was wore out. Replaced with a car tire.
At 9000 miles the front sprocket gave up, what a fun time replacing.
Sold at 9900 miles.
One month later bought a 2016 Harley Tri-Glide with 1600 miles. I have put 7000 miles on it so far in 7 months.
Changed oil.

The Spyder is fast and fun around town and with lots of changes and money can be adequate on the highway. The stereo and seat are awful.
The Tri-Glide is awesome on the highway but lots of clutching and shifting around town.

For me I would rather be riding the Harley than fixing the Spyder, I'm glad I got the Tri-Glide.

[RideOn]

The Spyder is fast and fun around town and with lots of changes and money can be adequate on the highway. The stereo and seat are awful.
The Tri-Glide is awesome on the highway but lots of clutching and shifting around town.

For me I would rather be riding the Harley than fixing the Spyder, I'm glad I got the Tri-Glide.

I'm surprised you had so much trouble with the F3. That hasn't been the case for me; nothing except routine maintenance on both machines. Certainly YMMV.

One factor important to me is the relative cost. A new TriGlide is initially at least $10k higher than an RT Limited, CVO editions are $50k+ (!) but both versions seem to hold their value well. Oddly, I've also observed that quite a lot of TriGlides don't get ridden very much, as evidenced by the postings for used machines.

I have a reservation for a test ride on a TriGlide coming up on Saturday. It's a 2016 that has only 2800 miles on it. That should settle the question for me.

Thanks for your input!

[RICZ]

I bought a 2015 F3 with 2000 miles on it. In the 12 months I owned it I put 7500 miles on it before selling it. Here is how the 12 months went.
It was laser aligned when I got it.
At 4000 miles the front rotors warped, new pads and rotors. This is rare. Most have yet to replace rotors.
At 5000 miles the front tires bad, coudn't go over 55mph too dangerous. Replaced with car tires. OEM tires are crap - car tires are a huge improvement. Most have done this.
At 5050 miles replaced sway bar, the wind really moves it around. A very worth while improvement that almost all do.
At 5200 miles bad belt vibration above 70mph added a belt tensioner. At least I could do 70 safely now! Did you adjust belt per recommendations of some experts here? Factory setting is too tight. I did and I only get a faint vibe at 72 which I can ride around.
At 8000 miles the rear tire was wore out. Replaced with a car tire. Tires are a wear item, that happens to all vehicles.
At 9000 miles the front sprocket gave up, what a fun time replacing. Proper maintenance of the pulley prevents that, as discussed in this forum.
Sold at 9900 miles.
One month later bought a 2016 Harley Tri-Glide with 1600 miles. I have put 7000 miles on it so far in 7 months.
Changed oil. To each his own. Enjoy the Tri-Glide and we'll enjoy our Spyders.

The Spyder is fast and fun around town and with lots of changes and money can be adequate on the highway. The stereo and seat are awful. The stereo's quality is not an issue with me as I have it off when riding. Seats can be modified or changed.
The Tri-Glide is awesome on the highway but lots of clutching and shifting around town. If you are tall, you are cramped on that. I tried it and at 5-10 I was cramped.

For me I would rather be riding the Harley than fixing the Spyder, I'm glad I got the Tri-Glide. Your Tri-Glides time will come when it needs repairs. I ride with Harley folks, I know.

[2dogs]

I'm surprised you had so much trouble with the F3. That hasn't been the case for me; nothing except routine maintenance on both machines. Certainly YMMV.

One factor important to me is the relative cost. A new TriGlide is initially at least $10k higher than an RT Limited, CVO editions are $50k+ (!) but both versions seem to hold their value well. Oddly, I've also observed that quite a lot of TriGlides don't get ridden very much, as evidenced by the postings for used machines.

I have a reservation for a test ride on a TriGlide coming up on Saturday. It's a 2016 that has only 2800 miles on it. That should settle the question for me.

Thanks for your input!

When I decided to purchase a spyder my research turned up the same info you discovered.

[2dogs]

Your Tri-Glides time will come when it needs repairs. I ride with Harley folks, I know.

I knew someone was going to respond to that in short order. Good job. I don't really have anything against HD's. I came off an HD to a spyder. I could have gone either way, but my wife felt safer and more comfortable and secure on the spyder. After all, it's her money too.

[rjinaz86323]

My two issues (and only 2) with the TriGlide was 1. the difficulty/pain of steering (I have arthritis in my shoulders), and 2. living in the West with the mountains the TriGlide was way under-powered. Keep in mind mine was a 2016 and so it only had 87hp compared to 115hp on my Spyder, plus it weight almost 250# more.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

My younger brother had a HD mid size two wheeler. After a few years he traded it for a Tri-Glide. He kept that about 2 years and sold it to move to a Ford Mustang. That didn't satisfy him so after a couple of years he sold it and bought a 2020 Spyder RTL. All indications are he is now happy. He said the Tri-glide was tiring to ride as the steering was hard. The solid axle tried to keep the trike going in a straight line and the front tire skipped around corners.

[PocoToro]

I live near Island Dragway in New Jersey, they are governed by NHRA. You can take a Spyder (revers trike) for a run down the track, You can not take a HD trike (traditional trike) down the track. A traditional trike is not as stable as a revers trike, and considered a "safety hazard"

[Mattman]

I've had two RTs (2010 and 2014) and an F3 (2018). Currently, I have a 2019 Harley TriGlide. When I'm on a Spyder there are things I miss about having a Harley. When I'm on my Harley, there are things I miss about the Spyder. Here's my perspective -

- Harleys still feel like a motorcycle, with the chrome, that rumbling engine and all the metal. Spyder engines, while zippy, don't provide that primal satisfaction. The Spyder also has a lot of plastic which may or may not be something one cares about.

- Riding a Spyder is a much more relaxed and easy activity, especially in stop-and-go traffic or on curves. The TriGlide is sometimes (a lot of times) stubborn to turn. When you're stuck in traffic you are doing a lot of clutching and shifting. The Spyder will not tire you out as much as the Harley sometimes will. The way the Spyder shifts is just so damn nice and easy.

- There are Harley dealers EVERYWHERE so you're never far from a place that can service you on a road trip.

- The Harley has a lot more options for customization. Exhaust, seats, handlebars, etc. But a lot of those options, especially the HD branded stuff, is much more expensive than it ought to be IMHO.

- BP Connect is garbage. The Harley entertainment stuff is pretty decent (not as good as Indian) and it has Apple CarPlay.

- Both options have a ton of storage for a bike. This one is kind of a toss up.

- Reversing on a Harley is embarassing. It really is. You go from the throaty growl of those twin cams to a whiny, pathetic sound that is just a bit humiliating. And God forbid you have to reverse up even a slight incline. Not good with the Harley. Obviously the Spyder is a whole different story.

- Looks. Everyone has their own personal taste on this. I like both, the same way you can equally like the way a sportscar or a pickup look.

- The adjustable windshield on the RT is awesome. I can't tell you how many windshields I've tried out on the Harleys I've had over the years (I've also had a RoadGlide and a Heritage). Since Harley only has a fixed shield, it's never perfect for all situations so you try to find the best balance that you can. I honestly don't understand why Harley hasn't stolen the idea for this feature from Can Am and Indian.

- I've noticed that it's definitely different depending on where you're riding, but in some areas of the country (California is where I noticed this the most), other cyclists won't give you the friendly wave that they'll give you on the Harley TriGlide. I've never understood why three wheels is okay when I'm on my Harley but not on the Can Am. This isn't always true though. Just depends on where you're riding or the crowd that's around.

- Some folks have mentioned the Harley being underpowered but I haven't found that to be the case. Maybe it's because I've got the newer 114 engine but I've had no issue with going up mountains on my TriGlide.

- I could probably spend a couple of grand making my Harley suspension better than it is (it's okay, not awesome) but what I have now definitely doesn't match the softer ride of the Spyder.

My problem is that there's no one bike that totally satisfies me. I like the fun of being on two wheels but then I crave the safety and stability of three. I like the legacy and cache of Harley but I love the new and modern appeal of the Spyder. Alas, I can only afford one bike at a time so I'm always chasing that perfect ride.

That's my $.02

[bikerbillone]

I certainly agree with you about BRP Connect. You are correct, if BRP would just adopt Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, like most if not all auto manufacturers, Connect would be miles ahead of its current state.

Thank you,
Bob BRP is a boil on an otherwise fine three wheel machine. Will BRP ever divorce this 'thing', probably not.

[tofriendscreek]

It’s a given, one is free to ryde whichever model, brand, etc., one wishes too. My opinion is a HD trike is more like driving a dump truck; a Spyder more like steering a sports car.

[old Timer]

Could not agree more Mattman. The HD has soul by the bucket loads, the Honda Goldwing is a no muss, no fuss very excellent appliance. The Triglide has similar Bucket loads of Soul, but the Spyder family is a very excellent no muss, no fuss much easier to ride and actually safer ride. I have absolutely loved my 4 new HD's in the last 10 years, 2 RK's, a EG Classic and a 114 Heritage Softail Classic. It's a sickness for sure, also have a Stable of BMW's........:thumbup:

[RideOn]

I've had two RTs (2010 and 2014) and an F3 (2018). Currently, I have a 2019 Harley TriGlide. When I'm on a Spyder there are things I miss about having a Harley. When I'm on my Harley, there are things I miss about the Spyder. Here's my perspective -

<snip>
My problem is that there's no one bike that totally satisfies me. I like the fun of being on two wheels but then I crave the safety and stability of three. I like the legacy and cache of Harley but I love the new and modern appeal of the Spyder. Alas, I can only afford one bike at a time so I'm always chasing that perfect ride.

That's my $.02

Mattman,

Thanks so much for a well written and considerate response. I have to say that in most ways you and I are on the same page. Granted that neither is "perfect", you must choose which compromises you are willing to accept. I think that is key.

I did get to ride a 2017 Tri-Glide, although with the 107 rather than the 114. I loved how it looks and sounds, but I was not exactly impressed by how it rode and handled. The rear suspension in particular just seems like an oxcart; it never missed a bump and transmitted that energy directly to the rider. And you are correct, the electric reverse is far inferior to the Spyder's. I was also cautioned that reverse frequently pops the circuit breaker, which requires removal of the right side panel to reset.

In the end, I elected not to buy the Tri-Glide. For one thing, the asking price of $32k for a 2017 with an M8 107 - although it had only 2050 miles and really was "as good as new" - is within $4k of the MSRP of a brand new machine. That may be a temporary market situation, as new units are hard to find, but the new model improvements - like the 114 motor - make the price for the used one seem questionable. The rear suspension roughness can likely be fixed, but that won't be cheap either.

The compromises inherent to the Spyder suit me better than the compromises inherent to the Tri-Glide. It also helps that I own the Spyder outright and have little interest in opening a new loan. I won't say I will never buy a Tri-Glide, but not at the cost of giving up my Spyder and a small fortune.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and input! It's been educational for me. I am grateful to be part of a community so willing to give of its time and experience.

Ryde safe,
Bob

[peatmoss]

I went from a F3 to a HD Freewheeler because I wanted that soul and that sound. I spent nearly $1000 trying to fix the suspension. It beat me up. I do know that Kool trikes makes an IRS kit for the Freewheeler. But I bought a 2020 F3 limited instead. I miss the sound and nostalgia of the Harley, but love the ride quality, liquid cooled engine, and the technology. Even with the crappy BRP connect. I also wish BRP would cough up some money for apple or Google to have better Nav. Or have something similar to HD boom touch screen. Oh well. Then I wouldn’t have anything to complain about I guess. Oh I forgot to mention I don’t have to fill up with gas as often on the Spyder.

[2dogs]

Yep, choosing to buy a spyder or an HD trike is like buying a horse or choosing a wife. Get the one with the least amount of problems you think you can live with.

[vito1943]

One aspect not mentioned is that riding a Harley trike you are still accepted fully by the HD crowd and still considered a "real" motorcyclist. Not so much with the Spyder. Judging by the "waves" when I am out riding, I am ignored far more often on the Spyder than I ever was on the Goldwing, including by HD riders. When younger I was very dismissive of trikes of any kind, feeling that going to three wheels meant leaving your motorcycle card behind. But age and related concerns made me consider 3 wheels as a way of still riding and providing comfortable enough accommodations that my wife would be wanting to still be my passenger. I had considered just moving to a lighter bike, but the small passenger seats on most bikes was a deal killer for me. I'm very happy with my 2021 RT, but I do feel that I am moved away from truly being a motorcyclist, something that I might not have felt had I gone with a traditional trike. Maybe its because seated on a conventional trike you still get the view as if you were on a two wheeler. If that's critical for you, stick with the Tri-Glide.

[RICZ]

I'm sorry you feel that way vito1943. My experience has been just to opposite. I get many times more waves, thumbs up and nods on my F3L than I ever got on my Victory. I have never heard a discouraging word, even from the H-D crowd. Only approval. Maybe due to my age (85) and the gear, it indicates I am no newcomer to the world of motorcycling, and I'm not.
Maybe riders in the NW are more friendly and accepting of riders in Illinois.