How does Valvoline 10W40 Full Synthetic Oil compare with Amsoil?

[SteveandBelinda]

Not trying to start another oil battle, but does anyone know how the Valvoline 10-40 Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil compares to the Amsoil 10-40 Oil?

[JayBros]

The only way to evaluate the oils is to have comparable analysis. Anything else is seat of the britches guessing and/or opining.

[CopperSpyder]

With all the post here the answer would be no. The Amsoil has post with all the data and test at different mileages that show it is one of not the best oils out there.. I have not seen that from the Valvoline. I would say that the best Valvoline could do is / maybe/ might be / or maybe not be as good as Amsoil but that has just not been backed up by test as of yet. Valvoline is being used by some members. It always nice when the test are done by a SpyderLover using their Spyder / Ryker. I have one or two disclaimers, this is based on what I have read here on the forum and seen in post. I do not use Amsoil in my Spyder but do believe it to be one of the best oils for use in Spyders / Rykers.

[SteveandBelinda]

what do oil analysis cost?

[2dogs]

$15/$20 bucks at Napa.

[RICZ]

My question here is....Is Valvoline 10-40 JASO MA2 rated? If not, do not use it.

[SteveandBelinda]

Yes it does. "Meets or Exceeds JASO MA2 API SL" according to label on container

[JayBros]

what do oil analysis cost?

IMO, with the 9,300 mi. oil change interval, that the 1330 ACE engine is easily capable of accommodating, to protect my investment I consider oil analysis a good idea. Here's where I get mine, order online and pick up in store: https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/FIL4077.

[RykerRider1959]

Blackstone labs is another testing option
https://www.blackstone-labs.com/

[SteveandBelinda]

IMO, with the 9,300 mi. oil change interval, that the 1330 ACE engine is easily capable of accommodating, to protect my investment I consider oil analysis a good idea. Here's where I get mine, order online and pick up in store: https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/FIL4077.

So how does that work? Order and pay for kit, then what, mail to lab, drop it off at Napa, or what? Is there another fee for lab work, or the $15.99 covers kit & lab work?

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Mail to the lab. Lab fee is part of the purchase price.

[ulflyer]

You only have to pay postage to nearest testing lab. Wix and Napa are the same; the lab I use is in Ga. The tests will tell you if your motor shows any unusual wear, or is wearing well. There are lots of specifics; amount of zinc, phosphorus, moly, viscosity of oil, etc. Its cheap enough and worth giving it a try to see if it serves a purpose.

[JayBros]

So how does that work? Order and pay for kit, then what, mail to lab, drop it off at Napa, or what? Is there another fee for lab work, or the $15.99 covers kit & lab work?

The Napa kit contains a form and complete set of instructions where to mail the sample. The price of the kit includes the lab analysis. I routinely send mine via UPS so I don't have to p**s around with the USPS. I receive very prompt results via email. If you have a question you can call the lab and talk to an analyst. If you don't know about Bob is the Oil Guy, check out this link: https://bobistheoilguy.com/. He has a viscosity chart that you can use to convert the cSt 100 C kinematic viscosity to SAE engine oil viscosity to see how the viscosity shears down over time/miles, amongst other things, at this link: https://bobistheoilguy.com/viscosity-charts/. The viscosity shears down because, again amongst other things, the transmission gears beat the bejesus out of the oil.

[2dogs]

$15.99 covers kit & lab work? Yes. My test results were emailed to me.

[Deanna777]

My question here is....Is Valvoline 10-40 JASO MA2 rated? If not, do not use it.



RICZ, Yes, the Valvoline Oil is rated JASO MA2, It exceeds the JASO MA2.

I posted the specs on "Valvoline Oil 10W-40 4T( SAE 10W-40) thread. It is on post # 15 of that thread. It is in a grey bottle.


Deanna

[Tango]

BRP oil is not JASO MA rated. :banghead:

[BajaRon]

BRP oil is not JASO MA rated. :banghead:

BRP oil is, of course, JASO rated. But as is the case with most manufacturer's lubricants, They don't give you much information on what is inside the bottle. They feel that telling you to use their product in their product is all you need to know. And frankly, for most, they are right. This also gives them the freedom to change the product (and specs.) without having to change the bottle. They can simply put whatever they want in that bottle and you'll never know. You have to keep in mind that the only thing BRP about BRP oil is the bottle that you throw away.

[troop]

And, with no industry standards for synthetic content in syn blend/partial syn blend oils, you don't really know what the synthetic content is in those oils. As above, the mfrs surely won't let you know :(