UtahPete
07-04-2021, 12:39 PM
Well, I recently spent two days troubleshooting and fixing a problem with my wife's bike's horn, which never sounded right, then worked only intermittently, then stopped altogether.
We bought her bike used and a previous owner had replaced the OEM horn with a Stebel Nautilus, which is much louder. The reason aftermarket horns can generate more decibels is because they have a high speed electric motor driving an air pump. This motor draws anywhere from 14 amps to 17 amps, depending on the make and model. The OEM horn, on the other hand, draws only 5 amps or less.
Now, the OEM horn is powered directly from the handlebar switch, using relatively small wires to do so. Those wires are inadequate to carry the much higher amperage of the aftermarket horns. So, when buying an aftermarket horn, it is essential to add a 30 amp relay into the circuitry. Horns sold specifically for Motorcycles typically have the relay and associated wiring included, but some do not.
Whoever installed the Stebel did it correctly, using a relay, which activates when the horn button is pushed, thus closing another set of contacts carrying battery power directly to the horn on larger (14awg) wires. Sometimes this power comes off an aftermarket fuse block powered by the battery, but that's not relevant; the point is that the power to the horn is being provided by larger wires, not the horn button wires. In this case, the previous owner had used an Eastern Beaver PC-8 to handle the power needs of accessories such as the aftermarket horn. All well and good.
Using a voltage detector probe, I determined the wire providing unswitched power to the PC-8 from the battery probably was the culprit. First, I disconnected the battery end and determined the wire was almost broken at the ring terminal, probably from when I replaced the battery (it's tight in there and the battery connections take a lot of abuse). So I replaced the ring terminal, soldered it in, and wrapped the whole thing with many layers of electrical tape to give it more strength.
The power at the PC-8 was still intermittent so I traced back to where a splice had been put in the line and replaced it. That didn't fix it. So then I examined the inline fuse close to the battery and determined its contact points to be suspicious so I replaced that with a new fuse holder. In so doing I had to splice back in the original cable but when I tried stripping the insulating jacket discovered the copper strands were corroded and breaking off, so I replaced that wire also.
That fixed it finally and now the Stebel puts out the loud two-tone honk it's famous for. See below for pics of the horn wiring and the bad wire.
NOW, here's the interesting thing I discovered as a result of this experience. Upon checking MY bike's aftermarket WOLO horn, I found it is wired directly to the horn button, NOT through a relay! I'm amazed I haven't had problems with it before now, but will be rewiring it with a relay before the next trip.
I bought my 2014 RTL new and shortly thereafter went to the Red Rock Rally in St. George, where I discovered farkling for the first time. I promptly dropped $900 having LEDs installed AND the WOLO horn installed by the same vendor. I knew nothing about modifying the Spyder back then, but have since learned a lot from this forum and now pretty much do all my own maintenance and mods.
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We bought her bike used and a previous owner had replaced the OEM horn with a Stebel Nautilus, which is much louder. The reason aftermarket horns can generate more decibels is because they have a high speed electric motor driving an air pump. This motor draws anywhere from 14 amps to 17 amps, depending on the make and model. The OEM horn, on the other hand, draws only 5 amps or less.
Now, the OEM horn is powered directly from the handlebar switch, using relatively small wires to do so. Those wires are inadequate to carry the much higher amperage of the aftermarket horns. So, when buying an aftermarket horn, it is essential to add a 30 amp relay into the circuitry. Horns sold specifically for Motorcycles typically have the relay and associated wiring included, but some do not.
Whoever installed the Stebel did it correctly, using a relay, which activates when the horn button is pushed, thus closing another set of contacts carrying battery power directly to the horn on larger (14awg) wires. Sometimes this power comes off an aftermarket fuse block powered by the battery, but that's not relevant; the point is that the power to the horn is being provided by larger wires, not the horn button wires. In this case, the previous owner had used an Eastern Beaver PC-8 to handle the power needs of accessories such as the aftermarket horn. All well and good.
Using a voltage detector probe, I determined the wire providing unswitched power to the PC-8 from the battery probably was the culprit. First, I disconnected the battery end and determined the wire was almost broken at the ring terminal, probably from when I replaced the battery (it's tight in there and the battery connections take a lot of abuse). So I replaced the ring terminal, soldered it in, and wrapped the whole thing with many layers of electrical tape to give it more strength.
The power at the PC-8 was still intermittent so I traced back to where a splice had been put in the line and replaced it. That didn't fix it. So then I examined the inline fuse close to the battery and determined its contact points to be suspicious so I replaced that with a new fuse holder. In so doing I had to splice back in the original cable but when I tried stripping the insulating jacket discovered the copper strands were corroded and breaking off, so I replaced that wire also.
That fixed it finally and now the Stebel puts out the loud two-tone honk it's famous for. See below for pics of the horn wiring and the bad wire.
NOW, here's the interesting thing I discovered as a result of this experience. Upon checking MY bike's aftermarket WOLO horn, I found it is wired directly to the horn button, NOT through a relay! I'm amazed I haven't had problems with it before now, but will be rewiring it with a relay before the next trip.
I bought my 2014 RTL new and shortly thereafter went to the Red Rock Rally in St. George, where I discovered farkling for the first time. I promptly dropped $900 having LEDs installed AND the WOLO horn installed by the same vendor. I knew nothing about modifying the Spyder back then, but have since learned a lot from this forum and now pretty much do all my own maintenance and mods.
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