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Adventurer
01-16-2021, 06:22 PM
Hi everyone, I guess this is my first post except for my post in the Welcome thread. I’m 64 and retired. Been a two wheel rider for the majority of my life like I expect most everyone else here and I’m going to try my hand in the Spyder world.

I’m expecting to do a lot of long distance touring on a Spyder. My wife rarely rides with me and unfortunately I don’t expect that to change.

I’ve been able to answer a ton of questions thru reviewing threads here, reviews on line and you tube.

The question I have not found an answer for is this: What model 2021+ Spyder or Ryker would you recommend for one up touring?

PS Due to covid I haven’t yet been to a dealer to look in person or test ride but I’d appreciate your input before I do make the trek to a dealer.

bikerchris1270
01-16-2021, 06:29 PM
If available at a dealer near you........sign up for a Can Am 2 day rider course offered through dealers. It gives you insight on how to handle a spyder and the opportunity to ride the models.....making it an educated purchase..
I’m sooooooo glad I did this......it made my choice an easy one. All models handle differently.

samewok
01-16-2021, 06:34 PM
See if your dealer has demo rides?

CopperSpyder
01-16-2021, 06:34 PM
One up touring would be between the RTL and the F3L. Each sit a little different one RTL you sit on with your feet below the other F3L you sit lower with your feet forward. You would need to look and sit On them to know. Going from 2 wheels to 3 wheels will take a little getting use too. its not as easy as you may think. Good luck shopping!!

Motorcycledave
01-16-2021, 06:53 PM
Hi everyone, I guess this is my first post except for my post in the Welcome thread. I’m 64 and retired. Been a two wheel rider for the majority of my life like I expect most everyone else here and I’m going to try my hand in the Spyder world.

I’m expecting to do a lot of long distance touring on a Spyder. My wife rarely rides with me and unfortunately I don’t expect that to change.

I’ve been able to answer a ton of questions thru reviewing threads here, reviews on line and you tube.

The question I have not found an answer for is this: What model 2021+ Spyder or Ryker would you recommend for one up touring?

PS Due to covid I haven’t yet been to a dealer to look in person or test ride but I’d appreciate your input before I do make the trek to a dealer.

From one life time rider ( I'm 78) to antother the Ryker is a toy and not suited for touring, I would look at the RT models and the F3 LTD models
only my opinion "and you know about opinions" everyone has one...
Ride safe
Dave

bigbadbrucie
01-16-2021, 07:01 PM
For me, an easy decision.....RTL. Because of arthritis in my hips and legs, I cannot handle the ‘laid back’ position of the F3’s. Braking is the problem. For what it’s worth, I’ll be 78 in April and have a 2014 RTS-SE6. Have had it now for 5 1/2 years and can see no reason to change....very happy with it. Previously I’ve had Touring Bikes and Cruisers. Started riding in ‘59/‘60 on a ‘49 Royal Enfield 500cc single.

ARtraveler
01-16-2021, 07:06 PM
:welcome:

Others right on so far. RT or F3 for one or two up touring. Each one has a different ride to it. Consider the RT as the Goldwing (couch) ride. A bit more plush. The F3 is more like a touring cruiser. You sit ON the RT and IN the F3. I have had three RT's and now own two F3's.

Me...I like the F3 better.

As always, I recommend a test drive of both. That will help you determine what YOU like best.

Good luck on your hunt.

Adventurer
01-16-2021, 07:19 PM
Thanks for the quick replies, all good points. I know I will need to sit on and test ride each model to test the personal fit of each model in the running. @ARtraveler may have hit the nail on the head for me. I’ve done some long distance touring on a cruiser and some on a goldwing and I’ll have to say I’m more of a goldwing kind of guy from that aspect. You can obviously tour on a cruiser but it’s not designed for it as much as it is bar hoping.

I had figured out that the F3 is more sportier but the fact there is an F3 Limited had me questioning. So unless the RTL just doesn’t that is the model I’d lean towards prior to an actual test ride.

Adventurer
01-16-2021, 07:21 PM
If available at a dealer near you........sign up for a Can Am 2 day rider course offered through dealers. It gives you insight on how to handle a spyder and the opportunity to ride the models.....making it an educated purchase..
I’m sooooooo glad I did this......it made my choice an easy one. All models handle differently.
I will certainly check in to a rider course, of course, LOL!

Adventurer
01-16-2021, 07:23 PM
See if your dealer has demo rides?
The local dealers do offer demo rides and I plan to take them up on that. I just want to educate myself as much as possible ahead of visiting a dealer.

Adventurer
01-16-2021, 07:31 PM
For me, an easy decision.....RTL. Because of arthritis in my hips and legs, I cannot handle the ‘laid back’ position of the F3’s. Braking is the problem. For what it’s worth, I’ll be 78 in April and have a 2014 RTS-SE6. Have had it now for 5 1/2 years and can see no reason to change....very happy with it. Previously I’ve had Touring Bikes and Cruisers. Started riding in ‘59/‘60 on a ‘49 Royal Enfield 500cc single.

Royal Enfield - what’s old is new again!

I’m hope when I do sit on the model I think I want it it doesn’t “feel” right to me that’ll be a bummer.

MONK
01-16-2021, 07:41 PM
For one up touring, I'd recommend the RT base/standard or the F3T. You don't get the auto suspension, heated seats or trunk on either the RT base or F3T but they're about $4k less than their Limited siblings. You can always add the items you'd get w/the Limited trim levels later. I have a 2021 RT base model and added a trunk (Shad SH58X). I just added the frunk liner (which is a PITA on an RT) today. I didn't feel the need for heated seats or auto suspension and I can add the Signature lights later (or not).

The F3s are a bit cheaper than the RTs. The F3s are a bit sportier but lack a few of the creature comforts that the RTs have. The RT has an electrically operated windscreen and a much better fairing. The F3....well, doesn't. You're a bit more stretched out on the F3. The F3 probably handles a bit better although I can keep up with almost anyone on my RT. Bottom line, if you're more into touring than handling, buy the RT.

Adventurer
01-16-2021, 08:13 PM
For one up touring, I'd recommend the RT base/standard or the F3T. You don't get the auto suspension, heated seats or trunk on either the RT base or F3T but they're about $4k less than their Limited siblings. You can always add the items you'd get w/the Limited trim levels later. I have a 2021 RT base model and added a trunk (Shad SH58X). I just added the frunk liner (which is a PITA on an RT) today. I didn't feel the need for heated seats or auto suspension and I can add the Signature lights later (or not).

The F3s are a bit cheaper than the RTs. The F3s are a bit sportier but lack a few of the creature comforts that the RTs have. The RT has an electrically operated windscreen and a much better fairing. The F3....well, doesn't. You're a bit more stretched out on the F3. The F3 probably handles a bit better although I can keep up with almost anyone on my RT. Bottom line, if you're more into touring than handling, buy the RT.
Everybody is quickly convincing me that the RT is better suited to what I want to do than the F3, theoretically.

My personality is such that I know I’m way more inclined to go for the RTL than the RT, we shall see. Plus when my wife does ride I want her to have all the creature comforts available in hopes that she’ll want to ride more often, not likely but one can hope!

AeroPilot
01-16-2021, 09:13 PM
The demo ride on the 2020-21 was pretty plush and I really like the new longer floorboard and slightly cushier drivers seat. My current ride is a 15 base RT which I have added aftermarket boards and NBV highway pegs so its good for me.

If I wanted to buy new and if my wife needed a back seat, we might go a new 2021 RT, but she likes her 16 F3T and I'm happy with the shorty windshield on the adjustable windscreen on my RT - and happy to adjust the airbag manually if I need to load up for a trip.

trikermutha
01-16-2021, 09:21 PM
Maybe rent one for a day or two to get a better feel for it. Not all models are for everyone. It does take some time if you never driven a inverted trike to get use to the steering.

Steve W.
01-17-2021, 12:14 AM
I had figured out that the F3 is more sportier ...
I have have sat on, but not actually ridden an F3, but I don't see where the "sporty" part kicks in.

In the 2-wheeled motorcycle world, there are three basic postures for road-going bikes.
1. The sport crowd has rear-set footpegs to allow leaning forward into the wind for less drag.
2. The touring crowd sits more upright, which is fine, behind the usual windshield.
3. The cruiser crowd has their feet more forward, and quite frankly, I have never figured out why.

I come from the touring crowd. All my bikes (since 1976) have been upright and have had a decent windshield. That is similar to the RT, so it's comfortable to me. Having feet forward, like on the F3 leaves me with a feeling of lack of control. There is no possiblity of standing on the pegs to help absorb a REALLY large bump, and it places your back into a strange curve.

We are all unique, just like everyone else, and we each have our own opinions.
You asked for mine, I'm happy to offer it and will remind you it's worth what you paid for it. :thumbup:

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Valkrocket
01-17-2021, 06:01 AM
Hi everyone, I guess this is my first post except for my post in the Welcome thread. I’m 64 and retired. Been a two wheel rider for the majority of my life like I expect most everyone else here and I’m going to try my hand in the Spyder world.

I’m expecting to do a lot of long distance touring on a Spyder. My wife rarely rides with me and unfortunately I don’t expect that to change.

I’ve been able to answer a ton of questions thru reviewing threads here, reviews on line and you tube.

The question I have not found an answer for is this: What model 2021+ Spyder or Ryker would you recommend for one up touring?

PS Due to covid I haven’t yet been to a dealer to look in person or test ride but I’d appreciate your input before I do make the trek to a dealer.

In my opinion, according to what you are looking for in a ride, The RTL is the way to go.
The list price is 4K more than the base model, but that can change at the point of sale. I got my RTL for $1500 less than the sticker price and got the driver backrest thrown in the deal.
The RTL has a detachable Top Box (trunk) that has a comfortable passenger backrest built into it, 2 more speakers that give you a surround sound in the cockpit, storage space that will hold an additional 16 gallons of gear giving you an additional 33% of storage. A must have for long distance touring. Besides, your wife may change her mind about riding when you bring this baby home. Mine did. I also purchased the back cover to replace the top box (around $230) in case I want a sportier look, but honestly, after my she who must be obeyed (wife) road on it with that set-up, she hated it after being spoiled with the OEM top box. :lecturef_smilie: Both driver and passenger seats are heated as well as the passenger hand grips. If you are touring, you never know when the climate may change, especially in higher elevations. Not sure if it makes a difference, but the RTL is 2" longer than the standard model because of the trunk.
The RTL also has LED front signature lights which gives it a little attitude on the front end.
In addition you get self leveling rear suspension that adjusts accordingly to weight added.
The front trunk (frunk) has a soft liner and has a light in it so you can see into it's vast depths.:)
To me, the RTL is the only way to go if touring, whether one or two-up.
Both models are available in either chrome or dark editions. I'm a chrome guy, so I forked up the additional $1000, but many like the dark sinister look better.
Whichever you purchase you're gonna have miles of smiles on it. Good Luck with your purchase.:2thumbs:

ARtraveler
01-17-2021, 09:05 AM
Thanks for the quick replies, all good points. I know I will need to sit on and test ride each model to test the personal fit of each model in the running. @ARtraveler may have hit the nail on the head for me. I’ve done some long distance touring on a cruiser and some on a goldwing and I’ll have to say I’m more of a goldwing kind of guy from that aspect. You can obviously tour on a cruiser but it’s not designed for it as much as it is bar hoping.

I had figured out that the F3 is more sportier but the fact there is an F3 Limited had me questioning. So unless the RTL just doesn’t that is the model I’d lean towards prior to an actual test ride.

Both of my F3's are limiteds. One dark trim and one chrome trim.
Gives me the capabilities of the RT...like cruise, audio, heated grips, frunk, saddlebags, and top case. The only thing missing is the extra tupperware and the electric windshield. And....about $4K less expensive.

And...make sure the F3 is set up for you. The U-fit system has adjustable handlebar lengths and brake pedal positions. My original test sit on F3 was ergonomically really bad. When I got the set up that fit me (short reach bars and brake position 2) I could only say WoW!

troop
01-17-2021, 10:12 AM
How often do you tour? Find a new, or gently used base F3 that has the 79t rear pulley. Add Shad luggage, cruise control module and windshield. Need more luggage? Add a luggage rack from here .. https://www.canamspyderaccessories.com/f3-spyder-full-rear-shelf-for-2015-20-f3-and-f3s-aluminium/ along with a top case of your choice. Tunes ? Iuse a comm device in my helmets and bluetooth music..

WilcoJunoHotel
01-17-2021, 10:15 AM
My 2 cents......

I rode a 2020 F3 and the 2020 RT before quickly deciding on the RT. The seat was the deal breaker for me on the F3 - the sitting position was too confining. I like to move around a little bit and the RT seat is more like what others have posted about sitting "on" the RT versus sitting "in" an F3. Also, after having 2 previous motorcycles that had electric windscreens, I could not see myself being happy with the one on the F3. I typically run the windscreen all the way up on the interstate, about halfway down on the backroads and completely down around town and on my typical rides, I will have all three riding types several times a day. As far as power goes, the RT is sufficient for my 1 up riding (6', 190#) and the addition of a Pedal Commander helped with the throttle response, especially when passing. But....another 30-40 HP would be nice. ;)

johnv50
01-17-2021, 11:56 AM
Check out the following thread, it contains a wealth of information for new riders (and experienced riders also).

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?41346-quot-Do-s-and-Do-Nots-quot-for-new-Spyder-owners

johnv

pegasus1300
01-17-2021, 01:07 PM
Started riding in ‘59/‘60 on a ‘49 Royal Enfield 500cc single.
Wow , I started on a 1956 AJS 500 single. Then went to a 750 Norton Commando for my touring start.

Adventurer
01-17-2021, 03:28 PM
The demo ride on the 2020-21 was pretty plush and I really like the new longer floorboard and slightly cushier drivers seat.
That gets my attention. I’ve only owned one bike with floorboards and I like them in combination with highway pegs.

Steve W.
01-17-2021, 03:34 PM
That gets my attention. I’ve only owned one bike with floorboards and I like them in combination with highway pegs.
One typical drawback of a 2-wheeler with floorboards is that you usually have to spread your legs farther to avoid them when coming to a stop. Fortunately, that "problem" does not exist on a Spyder. :thumbup:

I don't have floorboards on my Goldwing, but I DO enjoy them on my Suzuki.

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Adventurer
01-17-2021, 04:12 PM
have have sat on, but not actually ridden an F3, but I don't see where the "sporty" part kicks in.
I simply meant to my eye it looks sportier partially based on the exposed engine. I did mean in reference to seating position as in sport bike.


feet forward, like on the F3 leaves me with a feeling of lack of control. There is no possiblity of standing on the pegs to help absorb a REALLY large bump, and it places your back into a strange curve.
The feet forward makes me think I wouldn't like the seating position of the F3 that well. My current bike is a Yamaha Super Tenere and when using the highway pegs feel like a big flattened C which is not a comfortable position of this big belly guy.
We are all unique, just like everyone else, and we each have our own opinions.

Peteoz
01-17-2021, 04:15 PM
That gets my attention. I’ve only owned one bike with floorboards and I like them in combination with highway pegs.

Adventurer, I am an F3 Limited fan and owner, but if I wasn’t 6’7” and 300lbs (the F3 foot/bar position adjustability is essential for me), I would purchase the 20+ RT-L. Based on what you have written above, I believe that the 20+ RT-L, with it’s electronic screen, 1 minute detachable trunk, loooooong floorboards, roomy drivers seat, longer (than the F3) rear shock travel, and general “refinement” over earlier models really does put it in the Goldwing class.......and yes, it can really scoot when you need it to. Ideal long distance tourer. Don’t get me wrong, the F3-L is a very comfortable long distance tourer also. The F3-L is not a “cruiser” in the sense you mention above when comparing a cruiser to a Goldwing. It is designed for long distance work, but in a different seating position, and is simply not as refined as the RT-L.

As soon as someone comes out with a longer/higher driver seat for the 20+ RT (the brake pedal is hard to get at for me), or I can purchase a second hand seat for Russell Daylong to work their magic on, I will be looking to upgrade.

Pete

Adventurer
01-17-2021, 04:17 PM
In my opinion, according to what you are looking for in a ride, The RTL is the way to go.
The list price is 4K more than the base model, but that can change at the point of sale. I got my RTL for $1500 less than the sticker price and got the driver backrest thrown in the deal.
The RTL has a detachable Top Box (trunk) that has a comfortable passenger backrest built into it, 2 more speakers that give you a surround sound in the cockpit, storage space that will hold an additional 16 gallons of gear giving you an additional 33% of storage. A must have for long distance touring. Besides, your wife may change her mind about riding when you bring this baby home. Mine did. I also purchased the back cover to replace the top box (around $230) in case I want a sportier look, but honestly, after my she who must be obeyed (wife) road on it with that set-up, she hated it after being spoiled with the OEM top box. :lecturef_smilie: Both driver and passenger seats are heated as well as the passenger hand grips. If you are touring, you never know when the climate may change, especially in higher elevations. Not sure if it makes a difference, but the RTL is 2" longer than the standard model because of the trunk.
The RTL also has LED front signature lights which gives it a little attitude on the front end.
In addition you get self leveling rear suspension that adjusts accordingly to weight added.
The front trunk (frunk) has a soft liner and has a light in it so you can see into it's vast depths.:)
To me, the RTL is the only way to go if touring, whether one or two-up.
Both models are available in either chrome or dark editions. I'm a chrome guy, so I forked up the additional $1000, but many like the dark sinister look better.
Whichever you purchase you're gonna have miles of smiles on it. Good Luck with your purchase.:2thumbs:
All those additional amenities are all things I'm fairly certain I want in a bike that I intend to use mostly for touring. Thanks for the input.

Adventurer
01-17-2021, 04:23 PM
Both of my F3's are limiteds. One dark trim and one chrome trim.
Gives me the capabilities of the RT...like cruise, audio, heated grips, frunk, saddlebags, and top case. The only thing missing is the extra tupperware and the electric windshield. And....about $4K less expensive.

And...make sure the F3 is set up for you. The U-fit system has adjustable handlebar lengths and brake pedal positions. My original test sit on F3 was ergonomically really bad. When I got the set up that fit me (short reach bars and brake position 2) I could only say WoW!


I haven't put the F3 Limited out of the running yet, it's just going to depend on how the riding position feels to me. And from what I've seen the RTL just has a more polished look to my eye...like the radio control buttons below the steering stem is more refined than on the F3 and I'm drawn to that "look". I wish BRP would make the handlebars adjust on all models the way they are on the Ryker.

Adventurer
01-17-2021, 04:26 PM
How often do you tour? Find a new, or gently used base F3 that has the 79t rear pulley. Add Shad luggage, cruise control module and windshield. Need more luggage? Add a luggage rack from here .. https://www.canamspyderaccessories.com/f3-spyder-full-rear-shelf-for-2015-20-f3-and-f3s-aluminium/ along with a top case of your choice. Tunes ? Iuse a comm device in my helmets and bluetooth music..
That's certainly on option, but I'm not pursuing the used route at moment. Probably not my smartest move financially but that's the way my feeble brain is taking me!

Adventurer
01-17-2021, 04:31 PM
My 2 cents......

I rode a 2020 F3 and the 2020 RT before quickly deciding on the RT. The seat was the deal breaker for me on the F3 - the sitting position was too confining. I like to move around a little bit and the RT seat is more like what others have posted about sitting "on" the RT versus sitting "in" an F3. Also, after having 2 previous motorcycles that had electric windscreens, I could not see myself being happy with the one on the F3. I typically run the windscreen all the way up on the interstate, about halfway down on the backroads and completely down around town and on my typical rides, I will have all three riding types several times a day. As far as power goes, the RT is sufficient for my 1 up riding (6', 190#) and the addition of a Pedal Commander helped with the throttle response, especially when passing. But....another 30-40 HP would be nice. ;)
I completely get what you're saying and all are good points. Getting anxious to actually get hands on these machines.

Adventurer
01-17-2021, 04:33 PM
I have checked it out and the one thing I find disappointing is the need to avoid gravel roads, but that is something i can adjust to.

Peteoz
01-17-2021, 05:07 PM
I have checked it out and the one thing I find disappointing is the need to avoid gravel roads, but that is something i can adjust to.

Adventurer, there are many riders on here that take their Spyders on gravel roads without issue. Sure, you might get a rock in your belt, but that is very rare and could happen after driving on newly laid asphalt patches on bitumen anyway. If you look at the promotional videos of the 20RTL when it first came out, they show them actually ON gravel/dirt roads, so they may have addressed any issues.

Pete

Adventurer
01-17-2021, 05:13 PM
Adventurer, there are many riders on here that take their Spyders on gravel roads without issue. Sure, you might get a rock in your belt, but that is very rare and could happen after driving on newly laid asphalt patches on bitumen anyway. If you look at the promotional videos of the 20RTL when it first came out, they show them actually ON gravel/dirt roads, so they may have addressed any issues.
Pete
I saw that promotional video and noticed that and found it confusing in comparison with the Do’s and Don’ts thread here. I’d sure like to hear the experience of others that travel gravel roads on a regular basis.

CopperSpyder
01-17-2021, 05:19 PM
I haven't put the F3 Limited out of the running yet, it's just going to depend on how the riding position feels to me. And from what I've seen the RTL just has a more polished look to my eye...like the radio control buttons below the steering stem is more refined than on the F3 and I'm drawn to that "look". I wish BRP would make the handlebars adjust on all models the way they are on the Ryker.

Handlebars on the RTL and F3L are adjustable a little. There are lots of options to reconfigure them anyway you want them with long reach bars, short reach bars, there is even one set of bars that will adjust up & down in and out twist the grips in or out as you want; so adjustability is no an issue if you need that. If you look around the forum you will see many post on the subject on 2020 +. When you go to buy an RTL or F3L I would hope the dealer would take the time to fit the bars to you to see what set will fit you best. Some have a system where you sit on the bike and they can adjust it to you to see what you like best. The multi configuration bar I mentioned above is an aftermarket product called heli bar if I remember right. But just know there are options if need be but I think you will be fine, you will just need to give it time when you first start riding 3 wheels. After you get 2000 miles then you will have a better feel for it. :thumbup:

Peteoz
01-17-2021, 05:36 PM
I haven't put the F3 Limited out of the running yet, it's just going to depend on how the riding position feels to me. And from what I've seen the RTL just has a more polished look to my eye...like the radio control buttons below the steering stem is more refined than on the F3 and I'm drawn to that "look". I wish BRP would make the handlebars adjust on all models the way they are on the Ryker.

Along with what CopperSpyder has said re different bar options for adjustment, BRP have also released an accessory bar riser, that is adjustable by flipping a clamp level, raising the bars to the required level, and locking the clamp, Adventurer.

Pete

Adventurer
01-17-2021, 06:21 PM
Handlebars on the RTL and F3L are adjustable a little. There are lots of options to reconfigure them anyway you want them with long reach bars, short reach bars, there is even one set of bars that will adjust up & down in and out twist the grips in or out as you want; so adjustability is no an issue if you need that. If you look around the forum you will see many post on the subject on 2020 +. When you go to buy an RTL or F3L I would hope the dealer would take the time to fit the bars to you to see what set will fit you best. Some have a system where you sit on the bike and they can adjust it to you to see what you like best. The multi configuration bar I mentioned above is an aftermarket product called heli bar if I remember right. But just know there are options if need be but I think you will be fine, you will just need to give it time when you first start riding 3 wheels. After you get 2000 miles then you will have a better feel for it. :thumbup:
Thanks for the info. Time well tell, maybe I’ll get lucky and the stock bars will be a perfect fit for me, not likely tho, I’ve put risers on practically every bike I’ve owned in the last 15 years or so.

Along with what CopperSpyder has said re different bar options for adjustment, BRP have also released an accessory bar riser, that is adjustable by flipping a clamp level, raising the bars to the required level, and locking the clamp, Adventurer.
Pete
I think I know what your talking about if it’s the one shown in the sea to sky promo vid. A combination of that adjustable riser and adjustable forward and backward (independent of rise) would be an option worth paying for IMHO.

ThreeWheels
01-17-2021, 06:33 PM
In my opinion, you need to decide which style fits you best.
At this point, whatever model you like best, go balls to the wall and buy every gadget that BRP offers.
Yes, I know there are some people who balk at the idea of a $1200 accessory.
They'll by a similar aftermarket accessory for $900 and then spend 400 man hours and another $500 to make it fit right.

Poasttown
01-17-2021, 08:25 PM
I agree with bikerchris. I enrolled in a one day CanAm course and found it to be very beneficial. Even though all the riding was on a closed parking lot course it provided a lot of learning and fun. The course also provided the time to get the feel of the CanAms envelope in a safe and controlled environment.


I was fortunate to only have about six people in the class. If I remember correctly I was the only student with a fair amount of two wheel riding experience. Having two wheeled experience may give you a bit of a situational awareness advantage. As far a riding the CanAm I think we were all starting at pretty much the same skill level. I may have been at a somewhat disadvantage because I found myself having to fight some two wheeled tendencies not needed on three wheels.

Good luck.

Poasttown

Adventurer
01-17-2021, 08:34 PM
In my opinion, you need to decide which style fits you best.
At this point, whatever model you like best, go balls to the wall and buy every gadget that BRP offers.
Yes, I know there are some people who balk at the idea of a $1200 accessory.
They'll by a similar aftermarket accessory for $900 and then spend 400 man hours and another $500 to make it fit right.
I’ve looked at the accessories BRP offers under the Bulid Your Own website and as an uninitiated potential Spyder owner there are only a couple of accessories I’d be interested in up front but that will likely change after riding one for a while :roflblack:

Adventurer
01-17-2021, 08:42 PM
I agree with bikerchris. I enrolled in a one day CanAm course and found it to be very beneficial. Even though all the riding was on a closed parking lot course it provided a lot of learning and fun. The course also provided the time to get the feel of the CanAms envelope in a safe and controlled environment.

I was fortunate to only have about six people in the class. If I remember correctly I was the only student with a fair amount of two wheel riding experience. Having two wheeled experience may give you a bit of a situational awareness advantage. As far a riding the CanAm I think we were all starting at pretty much the same skill level. I may have been at a somewhat disadvantage because I found myself having to fight some two wheeled tendencies not needed on three wheels.
Good luck.
Poasttown
I will enroll in a riding class if I find one available semi-close to me. I’m 100% confident I will be reaching for the clutch and front brake for a while especially for harder/emergency stops when I’m just instinctively reacting as in avoidance maneuvers or suddenly stopping for that light that turned red sooner than expected. Im conditioned since I use the front brake more than the rear brake on my two wheel bikes.

Steve W.
01-17-2021, 09:21 PM
I’m 100% confident I will be reaching for the clutch and front brake for a while especially for harder/emergency stops when I’m just instinctively reacting as in avoidance maneuvers or suddenly stopping for that light that turned red sooner than expected. Im conditioned since I use the front brake more than the rear brake on my two wheel bikes.
Just keep reminding yourself that you are NOT on a 3-wheeled motorcycle, you are on a 3-wheeled CAR.

The car analogy will help you remember that your ONLY brake is at your right foot.

You also STEER the Spyder, which is opposite a 2-wheeled cycle. Keep in mind the image of riding on the back step of a kid's tricycle and steering where you want to go. (It worked for me) If you have any time onboard a snow machine, that helps. What you really have is a snow machine with the optional wheel package so you can ride it all-year around. :thumbup:

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trikermutha
01-18-2021, 07:38 AM
That would be nice to have rise and pullback options for handlebars. Not everyone is the same size. �� 🤯

chris56
01-18-2021, 08:53 AM
Hi Adventurer,

I’m 64 and retired. Been a two wheel rider for the majority of my life like ... me too :ohyea:

First: my wife loves to ride with me, but only on the 3-wheelers (but not on the 2-wheeles we used may years) ..

we had an RT for many years and changed now to a Ryker 900 - looks more sporty and is more sporty - its the better Solution if you really plan "Adventures" - shaft drive / lightweight / faster / better handling
but the RT is a perfect Highway Tourer..

ThreeWheels
01-18-2021, 11:38 AM
I saw this post and my first thought was Cindy Crawford.

Adventurer
01-18-2021, 11:43 AM
Just keep reminding yourself that you are NOT on a 3-wheeled motorcycle, you are on a 3-wheeled CAR.

The car analogy will help you remember that your ONLY brake is at your right foot.

You also STEER the Spyder, which is opposite a 2-wheeled cycle. Keep in mind the image of riding on the back step of a kid's tricycle and steering where you want to go. (It worked for me) If you have any time onboard a snow machine, that helps. What you really have is a snow machine with the optional wheel package so you can ride it all-year around. :thumbup:

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I understand what you mean, but I just don’t like the car analogy as I don’t want to think I’m driving a car around...I don’t want to leave the bike world! If I did I’d just buy a Mazda Miata...yuck!

Adventurer
01-18-2021, 11:48 AM
Hi Adventurer,

I’m 64 and retired. Been a two wheel rider for the majority of my life like ... me too :ohyea:

First: my wife loves to ride with me, but only on the 3-wheelers (but not on the 2-wheeles we used may years) ..

we had an RT for many years and changed now to a Ryker 900 - looks more sporty and is more sporty - its the better Solution if you really plan "Adventures" - shaft drive / lightweight / faster / better handling
but the RT is a perfect Highway Tourer..
I’m sure hoping 3 wheels will coax my wife into riding with me more, will be interesting to see one way or the other.

I’m an adventure rider at heart and love to explore unpaved back roads but I think there are plenty of paved roads to explore and keep me happy the rest of my riding life. I have the new Honda CT 125 on order, so I’ll still have a tool on hand for the more remote exploring, just a little more tame than what I’ve been used to.

Adventurer
01-18-2021, 11:49 AM
I saw this post and my first thought was Cindy Crawford.
Haha, I’d take that model in a heartbeat!

Poasttown
01-18-2021, 08:37 PM
I will enroll in a riding class if I find one available semi-close to me. I’m 100% confident I will be reaching for the clutch and front brake for a while especially for harder/emergency stops when I’m just instinctively reacting as in avoidance maneuvers or suddenly stopping for that light that turned red sooner than expected. Im conditioned since I use the front brake more than the rear brake on my two wheel bikes.

Adventurer

In my comments concerning the class I failed to mention that my class had a few different models of the spyder and we were allowed to try all if we choose.

Poasttown