Rear tire air valve

[BikerBob]

Is there any way to install another add on to make getting air in the rear tire easier?

[RayBJ]

I tried 1.5in extension but it made contact with pully edge so I removed it. Next time I pull the tire I'll install metal angled stems.

[BikerBob]

thanks. Very bad design for the trike

[RICZ]

I temporally screw on a 2" extension to check and fill.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Is there any way to install another add on to make getting air in the rear tire easier?

When it comes time to replace your rear tire .... before the new one is mounted .... add an Angled steel Mtc. stem from " Kurveygirl " , about $10.00 ... I have done this on every Spyder I have owned. .... The first one I removed the old valve and patched the hole .... then I just left the Oem valve, and put the new one opposite it..... The new one should be put on the other side of the rim,( the disc side )and away from the raised part of the wheel so tire machines won't hit it ..... Mike :thumbup:

[ShockwaveSpyder]

When it comes time to replace your rear tire .... before the new one is mounted .... add an Angled steel Mtc. stem from " Kurveygirl " , about $10.00 ... I have done this on every Spyder I have owned. .... The first one I removed the old valve and patched the hole .... then I just left the Oem valve, and put the new one opposite it..... The new one should be put on the other side of the rim,( the disc side )and away from the raised part of the wheel so tire machines won't hit it ..... Mike :thumbup:

do you have a photo pease ?

[2dogs]

For the time being, you can use an air chuck used for airing up dual tires on a truck. It's the right length and has the correct angle to easily access the rear tire valve stem. The best thing about it is that you don't have to get down on your knee to air up your rear tire.

[BryanSD]

Is there any way to install another add on to make getting air in the rear tire easier?

Thanks for asking this question. Every time I have to get on my knees to fill air in that rear tire...I wonder...am I doing this right? It shouldn't be that difficult.

[Flier Tuck]

I have wondered if it would be possible to fit a valve into the side of one of the spokes, pointing directly outward. This is done on BMW machines and would make inflation much easier.

[Peter Aawen]

I have wondered if it would be possible to fit a valve into the side of one of the spokes, pointing directly outward. This is done on BMW machines and would make inflation much easier.

Good idea, but there's no easy way of making that work on our existing rims! :banghead: At least, not without drilling into/modifying the rim itself & potentially compromising the strength of that spoke.... and since the rim wasn't designed with that in mind from the get go, probably making it a little more difficult to achieve a good wheel balance too! :rolleyes:

[bikerbillone]

Following this thread for a good answer if there is one. Surely BRM could have done a better job on this one. If you are one of those 'old' seniors, try airing up that tire a time or two, it will sure test your religion. I mean, come on, proper air pressure is a safety thing, why make it so difficult? They could have angled the valve or something!

[MONK]

...you can use an air chuck used for airing up dual tires on a truck.

That's what I use.

My issue isn't so much airing it up but getting the valve stem in the small area where you can actually access it. This is one of the reasons why I got the FOBO 2. I don't want to have to move the bike forward inch by inch (releasing and resetting the parking brake, running around to the other side of the bike, repeating the process, etc) before every ride. I check the FOBO and call it good.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

For the rear I use one end of a dual fill hose with clamp-on chuck. Not that much of a problem to slip the chuck on and off unless you have gorilla size fingers.

[pegasus1300]

Until you can get your air valve moved or if your somewhere without the right sizes chuck, gonto the Harley store and get a stem extender as used foyr an Ultra. Harley has the same problem and have 6" flexable extention. Costs about $10.00. I keep it on the Spyder with my air gauge.

[Bensonoid]

This is one way to cure the problem like others have said.

[JayBros]

Until you can get your air valve moved or if your somewhere without the right sizes chuck, gonto the Harley store and get a stem extender as used for an Ultra. Harley has the same problem and have 6" flexible extension. Costs about $10.00. I keep it on the Spyder with my air gauge.

Here's a link to the extension: https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/search.html?format=json;i=1;locale=en_US;q=valve-stem-extension;sp_cs=UTF-8;sp_staged=0. I bought one as soon as I bought my Spyder and shortly after I bought a Harley emergency compressor that has an identical extension with it.

[2dogs]

This is one way to cure the problem like others have said.


That would be it!

As MONK mentioned, I also run FOBO's, and therefore I know at any time what my tire pressures are. If you have any experience with FOBO's you know that these spyder front tires have very little air in them, volume-wise. Merely the act of checking their pressure can allow enough air to escape and drop the pressure by a pound or more if you're not careful. In reality, a pound or so is not extremely critical. Because of simple ambient influence, your front tires can change one or two pounds all on their own while riding your spyder. But if you are like some of us who are overly anal, a two-pound difference can be worrisome. The rear tire can heat up to as much as four pounds from cold to hot after a half hour or so of operation. So, if you pre-check your tire pressures to what BK911 has mentioned here numerous times, you should be good for any environment. And the tool that Bensonoid pictured is about the easiest and least expensive way I know of to air up my tires. I keep one in the frunk at all times.

[Peteoz]

That's what I use.

My issue isn't so much airing it up but getting the valve stem in the small area where you can actually access it. This is one of the reasons why I got the FOBO 2. I don't want to have to move the bike forward inch by inch (releasing and resetting the parking brake, running around to the other side of the bike, repeating the process, etc) before every ride. I check the FOBO and call it good.

Yep, yep, yep...... you and me both, Monk.... and for exactly the same reason :thumbup:

Pete

[Peteoz]

Yeah, along the lines of Jaybros amd others, I bought Lamont’s portable compressor which comes with a short, flexible hose, and you can preset a pressure. When FOBO tells me rear pressure is low, I can set the required pressure and screw on the flexible hose without even getting down on my knees (I sit on a low stool). It’s a bloody long way down to the floor for me :D ..... works a treat. But there is still the pain of getting that valve stem in just the right place :gaah:

Pete

[MONK]

On a side note, I was riding yesterday in 45* weather and my FOBO alarm went off. I keep my rear tire (still a Kenda :( ) @ 26#. FOBO was screaming at me that it got to 31.2#. Not sure why it was so upset although that did seem to be quite a bit of increase considering the ambient temp. I was less concerned with that than I would have been had the pressure dropped. According to FOBO, it's now back down to 26.5#. I love this FOBO app. :)

[Peter Aawen]

On a side note, I was riding yesterday in 45* weather and my FOBO alarm went off. I keep my rear tire (still a Kenda :( ) @ 26#. FOBO was screaming at me that it got to 31.2#. Not sure why it was so upset although that did seem to be quite a bit of increase considering the ambient temp. I was less concerned with that than I would have been had the pressure dropped. According to FOBO, it's now back down to 26.5#. I love this FOBO app. :)

An 'over-pressure alarm' like that will occur because too much pressure increase may be an indication that the tire is under-inflated for the ambient temps &/OR for the riding you're doing, and the pressure in your tire has risen too much from it's cold start/base setting.

Depending on the system, these 'too much increase' alarms can be triggered by the actual pressure increase, or by the temperature increase that effectively causes the pressure increase in the first place - either serving to warn you that a rise like that might be due to a slow leak in the tire lowering the volume of air inside it sufficiently to be a risk (obviously not the case here, or it would now show a lower pressure!); or that the material/layers the tire is made of are at risk of 'de-construction' due to the increase in the tire's temperature.... albeit, you're probably not quite at that stage with just an 'almost 6 psi' increase from cold - but then again, if it increased that much fairly quickly, maybe so?! :dontknow:

But you also need to consider what you were doing in the 20-30 minutes of riding immediately beforehand - if you were riding 'somewhat more spiritedly' than usual, that temp increase & the consequent increased risk to your tire might simply be due to that 'over-exuberance', and if you slow down & the alarm stops as the tire's pressure/temp returns to its normal range rather than showing a lower than normal pressure, then that's probably what it was, altho.... if you were here in Oz, you'd also need to consider if you were riding on a hotter road surface, or if that tire was more exposed to sunlight, but considering where you are/the ambient temps you report, there's probably not too much of a risk of either of those.... there again, it could be that your FOBO was responding to a temp/pressure increase that was largely in the valve stem itself, and not actually in the tire?!? As I've mentioned before, it does sometimes happen with these end of valve stem sensors - warnings or pressure changes being reported that other devices can't detect any reason for, and that (sometimes) seemingly 'self correct'....could've been due to quite a few things, and unless you can identify anything that was clearly different in the conditions or what you were doing/how you were riding at the time.... :dontknow:


That said, it's been a while, but I thought the FOBO system allowed you to set an upper & lower pressure or temp limit for the alarms, altho most systems do generally have default limits - often about 4psi.... :rolleyes:

[RICZ]

If you lose air when checking tires, as I did, Slime puts out a digital "no air loss" tire gauge. I have one and it works great.

[Possible]

Yeah, I was kind of thinking if you're losing a couple psi when checking the front tires, or rear tire, then either your gauge or your
technique need some serious work. Those front tires aren't that small.

But I also agree that the Slime digital gauges are first rate. I have three of them, and they all work a treat.

[RideOn]

Here's the TireTek gauge I use for all three tires: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KAHVJ8Y/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_tbo.Fb5X1TQ59

TireTek has a very similar tool to attach to an air compressor. It uses a flip lever to lock onto the valve stem and allows you to both add and release air pressure without removing the tool:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AO1ZBLW/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_sio.Fb0Y4BN4M

Yes, I do usually have to kneel, front or rear. Generally I can see enough of the rear wheel to guesstimate where the valve is and find it easiest to reach when it is between 3 and 6 on the clock.

I've had both of these tools for more than 3 years and no problems with either one.

[bikerbillone]

Nice, but guess what, Amazon says, 'not sure when or if this will be available'. That sucks.

[cruisinTX]

OR; you could spend maybe $2 at a bicycle shop and get a 90° stem adapter and just leave it on all the time. Being made for bicycle tires they are rated for over 100psi. I've had one on our 2014 RT since the first week of owning it. Now a little over 7500 miles later--no problems whatever.

[K80Shooter]

I have this one, works great.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015HURK64/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Valkrocket]

How about using this. Minimal loss of air when removing. Screw off types lose more air. Heck, with 24" of extension you could sit in a chair and inflate. Good ol' Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Show-Chrome-Accessories-5-803-Extension/dp/B01BM6BHZW/ref=sr_1_37?dchild=1&keywords=flexible+tire+valve+extension&qid=1610454698&sr=8-37
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[MONK]

How about using this. Minimal loss of air when removing. Screw off types lose more air. Heck, with 24" of extension you could sit in a chair and inflate. Good ol' Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Show-Chrome-Accessories-5-803-Extension/dp/B01BM6BHZW/ref=sr_1_37?dchild=1&keywords=flexible+tire+valve+extension&qid=1610454698&sr=8-37
187091

That's a great idea but you still have to move the bike around until you get the valve stem in the right place.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

How about using this. Minimal loss of air when removing. Screw off types lose more air. Heck, with 24" of extension you could sit in a chair and inflate. Good ol' Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Show-Chrome-Accessories-5-803-Extension/dp/B01BM6BHZW/ref=sr_1_37?dchild=1&keywords=flexible+tire+valve+extension&qid=1610454698&sr=8-37
A push-on chuck is a lot easier to get on the stem. Those kinds of chucks take a fair amount of finger strength to get secure on the stem.

[jaherbst]

RYOBI makes a nice small compressor with a built in gauge and a clamp on to valve stem. This works perfectly for all tires up to 125#.

Jack

[Motorcycledave]

Is there any way to install another add on to make getting air in the rear tire easier?

Next time you have to replace the rear tire, do this, before removing the rear tire
mark the wheel on the other side of where the current valve is, now 180 degrees
from that valve drill a new hole for a new valve that is closer to the edge but not where
the new valve will hit anything now install a new metal valve or rubber valve, Yes you will
have 2 valves in the wheel it's no big thing and it works very well.Just be sure
you put it across from the old valve stem so it don't cause any balance problems.

[RICZ]

When I had car tires mounted on the front, I had them install longer valve stems. The made checking and adding air much easier. I don't know why BRP uses such short stems. Maybe they are two cents cheaper.

[johnv50]

For those of you using the FOBO TPMS, what did you do to make their sending units fit on the short stems. I fond some short (1/2") extensions but was worried about stress to the rubber valves.

thanks johnv

[EdMat]

For those of you using the FOBO TPMS, what did you do to make their sending units fit on the short stems. I fond some short (1/2") extensions but was worried about stress to the rubber valves.

thanks johnv

They seem to work fine on 2019 RT. Can't speak to the others but mine are pretty short. I do not use the supplied locks, can't see a need for them.

[MONK]

For those of you using the FOBO TPMS, what did you do to make their sending units fit on the short stems. I fond some short (1/2") extensions but was worried about stress to the rubber valves.

thanks johnv

They work just fine on my 2021 RT base. No issues, whatsoever.

[Peter Aawen]

For those of you using the FOBO TPMS, what did you do to make their sending units fit on the short stems. I fond some short (1/2") extensions but was worried about stress to the rubber valves.

thanks johnv

I think that for some obscure/indecipherable reason, BRP used shorter valve stems on some of the F3's outta the box (2017?? :dontknow: ) and those were a bit tough to fit the FOBO senders onto! :shocked:

No biggie tho, when you toss the Kendas & get some proper tires fitted, they'll probably hafta take the valve stem out anyway, so just get the tire fitter to use the next longer length valve stem then - no worries after that! :thumbup:

That said, the valve stem extensions won't be seriously stressing anything - and if they do cause issues, it'll just highlight that you already had a problem that needed fixing anyway! :rolleyes:

[2dogs]

They work just fine on my 2021 RT base. No issues, whatsoever.

Work just fine on my 2014 RT also. No issues, whatsoever.

[redrazor]

:clap:I just ordered a pair of these 90 degree stems from Amazon supplier. Anxious to install. It's a huge pain to even check the rear tire pressure!:popcorn:

[redrazor]

:2thumbs:90 degree brass stem was easy to install and makes Pressure Checks and adjustments sooo much easier. Best $$ spent in a while!:clap:
I'll try to post a photo soon.

[wmjweber45]

I used a clamp-on chuck for awhile. Getting it on was no problem, but taking it off was. Tended to get caught on the threads and released too much air in the process. Now I use a threaded chuck. I can reach the valve to screw it on for pretty much any wheel position. Losing air when unscrewing has not been an issue. My compressor has a psi setting, so it checks the pressure at the same time, adding air only if needed - two operations are no longer needed.

[redrazor]

:2thumbs:90 degree brass stem was easy to install and makes Pressure Checks and adjustments sooo much easier. Best $$ spent in a while!:clap:
I'll try to post a photo soon.

Here's (2) photos: 187280187281187281

[Peteoz]

Here's (2) photos: 187280187281187281

Thanks for the photos, redrazor. Unfortunately it’s not that simple for those models with saddlebags. We only have a position between around 4 o’clock and 6 o’clock where we can access the stem. That’s why FOBO is so handy for me :thumbup:

Pete

[Arion]

Until you can get your air valve moved or if your somewhere without the right sizes chuck, gonto the Harley store and get a stem extender as used foyr an Ultra. Harley has the same problem and have 6" flexable extention. Costs about $10.00. I keep it on the Spyder with my air gauge.

Exactly! That was my interim solution and it does help although it isn't perfect. With two RTs to attend to it does make the rear tire atonement exercise somewhat easier.

[trong]

This is one way to cure the problem like others have said.

Harborfreight has similar tool, it works for me, While you're there get there high adjustable work stool for about $30, make working on car and motorcycle and Spyder way easier.

[mcalva]

I use one of these on my air compressor. The gap is the same but a lot easyest to connect and disconnect.

https://www.amazon.com/-/es/AstroAl-Adaptador-resistente-neum%C3%A1ticos-compresor/dp/B078WVQL31/ref=sr_1_24?__mk_es_US=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C 3%91&dchild=1&keywords=clip+para+inflado+neumaticos&qid=1611330106&sr=8-24

[Spyderman2018]

Hey Redrazor! You may want to take a look at your belt alignment.........

[BertRemington]

BN -- which KurveyGirl valve stem fit the Spyder rim? https://www.kurveygirl.com/shop/index.php?cPath=169

Thanks.

[redrazor]

Hey Redrazor! You may want to take a look at your belt alignment.........

It was out at the edge because I had to move the bike backwards to put it into the best spot for a photo. Belt changes position from forward to reverse. I knew someone would comment on that. No problem. No problems.:thumbup:

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

BN -- which KurveyGirl valve stem fit the Spyder rim? https://www.kurveygirl.com/shop/index.php?cPath=169

Thanks.

It's the one from " ENKEI " it's the steel one and states it's an 85 degree bend.... it was packaged as " two for $11.00 " .... remember I used it on the DISC brake side of the rim, after drilling the correct size matching hole for it ..... to be safe I would drill the hole near the center if the rim , to prevent interference with any type of tire removal equipment ..... good luck .... Mike :thumbup: