PDA

View Full Version : Federal Formoza AZ01 Tires



bikerbillone
01-04-2021, 06:56 AM
I don't have much information except the OP bought from Amazon he said at $50 each. So going to Amazon the only tire that fits that price point is Federal Formoza AZ01 All- Season Radial Tire-165/55R15 75V, good 85% approval rating. Not sure how that stacks up with the Q5s which seem to be very popular.

Snoking1127
01-04-2021, 10:00 AM
I don't have much information except the OP bought from Amazon he said at $50 each. So going to Amazon the only tire that fits that price point is Federal Formoza AZ01 All- Season Radial Tire-165/55R15 75V, good 85% approval rating. Not sure how that stacks up with the Q5s which seem to be very popular.

It is my understanding that in the US that is about the only tire that matches the OEM 165/55R15 size that people recommend. The Q5's are a slightly different size. Chris

Possible
01-04-2021, 10:00 AM
Here's a thread from a couple years ago, and the consensus seems to be they are a very good tire for the Spyder. The price is sure right.

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?106435-Federal-Formoza-AZ01-165-55-15-tires

bikerbillone
01-04-2021, 10:04 AM
Chris, I didn't know that about the Q's, good info.

MONK
01-04-2021, 12:08 PM
Vacillating between these and the Q5s. I looked on Amazon and 99% of the reviews on these are on Spyders. :) I saw a couple that were car related and a few that didn't say what they had the tires on. Must be you can only mount these on our Spyders!

Possible
01-04-2021, 12:26 PM
Yeah, the Q5's have gotten good reviews too, but the Formoza's are half the price. So all things being equal, the lower price makes deciding a bit easier. To me anyway.

MONK
01-04-2021, 01:20 PM
Federals are about 50 bucks/each. The Q5s are about $85/each. If one is better than the other, I'd choose that one. So far, it seems those that like the Q5 swear they're better and those that like the Federals swear those are better. I wouldn't mind a review from someone who has run both (on the same bike) but I suppose that's unlikely. Paying an add'l 70 bucks for much better tires seems worth it but I know pretty much anything is better than the original Kendas.

BLUEKNIGHT911
01-04-2021, 01:24 PM
I don't have much information except the OP bought from Amazon he said at $50 each. So going to Amazon the only tire that fits that price point is Federal Formoza AZ01 All- Season Radial Tire-165/55R15 75V, good 85% approval rating. Not sure how that stacks up with the Q5s which seem to be very popular.

NOTHING is better ( for all around performance ) than the Q-5 ........Period, yes they are a bit more expensive but imho they are worth it.......Mike :thumbup:

RICZ
01-04-2021, 01:27 PM
I replaced the Kendas with the above mentioned Federals and boy howdy, what an improvement in every category. Here's a comparison photo - the Federal is on the bike, the Kenda off the bike.

186967

Possible
01-04-2021, 02:50 PM
Well, I figure I'm not going to race Peggy's Spyder, :) , so absolute performance isn't an imperative. And the money saved will pretty much
pay for a Kumho at the rear. Looks like a win, win to me.

RICZ
01-04-2021, 06:45 PM
Well, I figure I'm not going to race Peggy's Spyder, :) , so absolute performance isn't an imperative. And the money saved will pretty much
pay for a Kumho at the rear. Looks like a win, win to me.
When solo, I ride quite aggressively, pushing my bike very hard in the turns. I have yet to surpass the limits of the Federals. As I rode away from having them installed, I immediately noticed much less rolling resistance, far better straight line tracking (Kendas would not even try to track) and, of course, better grip in curves.

Navydad
01-04-2021, 09:03 PM
When solo, I ride quite aggressively, pushing my bike very hard in the turns. I have yet to surpass the limits of the Federals. As I rode away from having them installed, I immediately noticed much less rolling resistance, far better straight line tracking (Kendas would not even try to track) and, of course, better grip in curves.

:agree: Same here. I have 30,000 miles on my Federals and would buy them again.

Possible
01-04-2021, 11:02 PM
Well, it looks like a set of Federals are in Peggy's Spyder's future. :)

Haze
01-05-2021, 01:03 AM
I have Federals on my 2013 STS fronts. General Altimax on the rear.
I am not an aggressive rider so I can't comment on the ultimate performance of the tires.
What I can say is the tires are great for my touring style riding.

bikerchris1270
01-05-2021, 06:30 AM
I don't have much information except the OP bought from Amazon he said at $50 each. So going to Amazon the only tire that fits that price point is Federal Formoza AZ01 All- Season Radial Tire-165/55R15 75V, good 85% approval rating. Not sure how that stacks up with the Q5s which seem to be very popular.

Q5’s look better.

troop
01-05-2021, 06:50 AM
I'm running Vredestein's on my PPA wheels, but thinking about buying a set of Formoza's to put on my OEM wheels. Have a complete spare set :) . Walmart also has them, and will mount for cheap.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Federal-Formoza-AZ01-165-55R15-75-V-Tire/706973164

bikerbillone
01-05-2021, 07:01 AM
Interesting, I have a Walmart not far. I see the Canam is not in their fitment format, previous experience I can see them not wanting to mount. Of course it would be worth a short a short ride to find out.

Valkrocket
01-05-2021, 07:16 AM
Interesting, I have a Walmart not far. I see the Canam is not in their fitment format, previous experience I can see them not wanting to mount. Of course it would be worth a short a short ride to find out.

If you got a discount tire nearby, check out their sale. :2thumbs:
http://https://www.discounttirezone.com/Federal-Formoza-AZ01-16555R15-75V_p_12203.html?msclkid=0967bcfb91dd1e7d9ad3e30fc 6b1fa0c&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=All%20Products%20Bing&utm_term=4582077278866174&utm_content=*%20-%20federal%20tires (https://www.discounttirezone.com/Federal-Formoza-AZ01-16555R15-75V_p_12203.html?msclkid=0967bcfb91dd1e7d9ad3e30fc 6b1fa0c&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=All%20Products%20Bing&utm_term=4582077278866174&utm_content=*%20-%20federal%20tires")

Snoking1127
01-05-2021, 07:28 AM
Now to decide on a inflation pressure when I install my new Federals. I saw someone state 22 PSI. Chris

bikerbillone
01-05-2021, 07:33 AM
Good idea and on sale for $45, rather trust those guys than Walmart. Don't need tires now, but at $45, maybe I need to give it some thought for a bit later install.

trikermutha
01-05-2021, 07:36 AM
While I had the federals on my spyder for awhile until a pothole took care of that tire. I went with the Achilles ATR-K Economist tire and find them much quieter and less resistance while turning. Traction seems good but with the pandemic I was not out as much last year riding. But I like the Achilles better than the federals.

I was running 19 psi on the federals. I think running them lower may have contributed to the tire blowout. The pothole was not big at all.

Peter Aawen
01-05-2021, 07:52 AM
Now to decide on a inflation pressure when I install my new Federals. I saw someone state 22 PSI. Chris

While some might knowingly (or unknowingly :rolleyes:) over-inflate their tires to enhance one particular aspect of their tire's performance, by doing so it will be compromising the over-all capability of the tire. Unless your Spyder is loading up each tire with about 500kgs (which I seriously doubt! :shocked: ) then you are unlikely to need any more than 16-18 psi in the Federals for most 'normal' ryding; altho if you are planning on doing some well loaded, long distance, very high speed, &/or high ambient temp ryding (in ambient temps above about 35°C) or any combination there-off, then you might want to increase that juuust a little & go as high as maybe 20 psi with your 'cold start' pressures.... but anything much over that is very likely to be over-inflating any 'real' auto tires if they are fitted to a Spyder! ;)

Your tire pressure NEEDS to increase a little as you ryde, to reflect how your tires warm up to their operating temps - less than about a 4psi increase after an hour's ryde means that you started out with pressures too high; more than about a 4psi increase means you started out with pressures too low; and if you get NO increase at all after about an hour's ryde then your tires are waayy over-inflated & compromising ride, handling, traction, suspension compliance, road hazard/puncture resistance, tread wear, safety, et al; while if you get any more increase than about 6psi after about an hour's ryde your tires are dangerously under-inflated & compromising ride, handling, traction, tread wear, safety, et al . :lecturef_smilie:

For the vast majority of Spyders/Ryders/loadings with auto tires fitted, you should only ever see 22psi as a 'Hot pressure' after about an hour' ryde! :thumbup:

Snoking1127
01-05-2021, 07:55 AM
[
While some might knowingly (or unknowingly :rolleyes:) over-inflate their tires to enhance one particular aspect of their tire's performance, by doing so it will be compromising the over-all capability of the tire. Unless your Spyder is loading up each tire with about 500kgs (which I seriously doubt! :shocked: ) then you are unlikely to need any more than 16-18 psi in the Federals for most 'normal' ryding; altho if you are planning on doing some well loaded, long distance, very high speed, &/or high ambient temp ryding (in ambient temps above about 35°C) or any combination there-off, then you might want to increase that juuust a little & go as high as maybe 20 psi with your 'cold start' pressures.... but anything much over that is very likely to be over-inflating any 'real' auto tires if they are fitted to a Spyder! ;)

Your tire pressure NEEDS to increase a little as you ryde, to reflect how your tires warm up to their operating temps - less than about a 4psi increase after an hour's ryde means that you started out with pressures too high; more than about a 4psi increase means you started out with pressures too low; and if you get NO increase at all after about an hour's ryde then your tires are waayy over-inflated & compromising ride, handling, traction, suspension compliance, road hazard/puncture resistance, tread wear, safety, et al; while if you get any more increase than about 6psi after about an hour's ryde your tires are dangerously under-inflated & compromising ride, handling, traction, tread wear, safety, et al . :lecturef_smilie:

For the vast majority of Spyders/Ryders/loadings with auto tires fitted, you should only ever see 22psi as a 'Hot pressure' after about an hour' ryde! :thumbup:


Thanks. Chris

BLUEKNIGHT911
01-05-2021, 07:59 AM
While I had the federals on my spyder for awhile until a pothole took care of that tire. I went with the Achilles ATR-K Economist tire and find them much quieter and less resistance while turning. Traction seems good but with the pandemic I was not out as much last year riding. But I like the Achilles better than the federals.

I was running 19 psi on the federals. I think running them lower may have contributed to the tire blowout. The pothole was not big at all.

In reality lower PSI's are Less likely to cause or contribute to flats or Blowout's ...... Mike :thumbup:

Snoking1127
01-05-2021, 08:12 AM
In reality lower PSI's are Less likely to cause or contribute to flats or Blowout's ...... Mike :thumbup:

Michelin told we regarding running their XPS Ribs on my 5th wheel trailer that OVER inflation can lead to impact damage and that it decreases braking ability of the tire, as the contact patch with the road surface is decreased in size.

K80Shooter
01-05-2021, 08:44 AM
I see a lot of folks making remarks about the Q5 tire. Can someone expand on this a little? When I search for Q5 tires all I come up with is tires for a Audi Q5. Sorry if this seems like a dumb question.

BLUEKNIGHT911
01-05-2021, 09:48 AM
I see a lot of folks making remarks about the Q5 tire. Can someone expand on this a little? When I search for Q5 tires all I come up with is tires for a Audi Q5. Sorry if this seems like a dumb question.

Well first you need to be on a Tire seller site, try TIRERACK.COM ..... ( while you're there look at what the rating / testing is for the Vredestein Q-5 ).... The Q-5 is listed as an All Season tire, but from testing ( like by Consumer Reports ) it has been learned that it actually works quite well in cold weather and SNOW ...... Mike :thumbup:

BLUEKNIGHT911
01-05-2021, 09:49 AM
Michelin told we regarding running their XPS Ribs on my 5th wheel trailer that OVER inflation can lead to impact damage and that it decreases braking ability of the tire, as the contact patch with the road surface is decreased in size.

Absolutely, and this applies to all auto tires ...... Mike :thumbup:

blacklightning
01-05-2021, 09:51 AM
I loved my federal EVO's, but they don't make them any more. But there is another that federal makes that have nearly the same treat pattern. They are between $40-50 each. I will be going with them in the spring. I have 23k on my stock tires.

troop
01-05-2021, 11:43 AM
If you got a discount tire nearby, check out their sale. :2thumbs:
http://https://www.discounttirezone.com/Federal-Formoza-AZ01-16555R15-75V_p_12203.html?msclkid=0967bcfb91dd1e7d9ad3e30fc 6b1fa0c&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=All%20Products%20Bing&utm_term=4582077278866174&utm_content=*%20-%20federal%20tires (https://www.discounttirezone.com/Federal-Formoza-AZ01-16555R15-75V_p_12203.html?msclkid=0967bcfb91dd1e7d9ad3e30fc 6b1fa0c&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=All%20Products%20Bing&utm_term=4582077278866174&utm_content=*%20-%20federal%20tires")

Good deal if they ship to store for free, otherwise shipping is $20

bikerchris1270
01-05-2021, 01:32 PM
I see a lot of folks making remarks about the Q5 tire. Can someone expand on this a little? When I search for Q5 tires all I come up with is tires for a Audi Q5. Sorry if this seems like a dumb question.

Vredestein is the mfg.

Possible
01-05-2021, 02:14 PM
I believe it's "Vredestein", just in case someone does a cut-and-paste.

Valkrocket
01-05-2021, 02:39 PM
Good deal if they ship to store for free, otherwise shipping is $20

You are correct Troop.
Upon further research, this is not Discount Tire.:banghead: It is an internet tire store called Discount Tire Zone. And they do not have free shipping, so this is not as good a deal as it appeared to be.:opps: Boy am I spoiled with free shipping on my Amazon Prime account as well as most of our sponsors on SL.
Hello Walmart.................:ohyea:

Snoking1127
01-05-2021, 03:06 PM
You are correct Troop.
Upon further research, this is not Discount Tire.:banghead: It is an internet tire store called Discount Tire Zone. And they do not have free shipping, so this is not as good a deal as it appeared to be.:opps: Boy am I spoiled with free shipping on my Amazon Prime account as well as most of our sponsors on SL.
Hello Walmart.................:ohyea:

I ordered two this morning on Amazon with free shipping. Shipping says 9 days to delivery, however they may show earlier, as it is the same tire company named here. Chris

Valkrocket
01-05-2021, 03:12 PM
Thanks Chris. Now I don't feel so bad. Gotta love Prime. :2thumbs:

Possible
01-05-2021, 03:49 PM
Not to be too pedantic, but the shipping from Amazon isn't "Free", it is at no additional charge. When you pay for Prime, you are paying for
"shipping at no additional charge".

FWIW I can usually find prices cheaper than Amazon if I look a bit. And many don't add sales tax like Amazon does many times now. In case
you haven't figured it out, I don't like Amazon. :)

AeroPilot
01-05-2021, 04:08 PM
Put two Fed Formosa AZ01 on the wifes 16 F3T in Nov 2018 - Now have a little over 31,300 miles on them and still good tread for next year. Ordered from and mounted free by local Walmart.

Centramatic balancers from Lamonster Garage all around and rollin smooth. Looking forward to a more myles of Smyles! 186988
186989

Snoking1127
01-05-2021, 05:15 PM
Possible. However you do not have access to Prime Movies.

MONK
01-05-2021, 05:20 PM
Not to be too pedantic, but the shipping from Amazon isn't "Free", it is at no additional charge. When you pay for Prime, you are paying for
"shipping at no additional charge".

FWIW I can usually find prices cheaper than Amazon if I look a bit. And many don't add sales tax like Amazon does many times now. In case
you haven't figured it out, I don't like Amazon. :)


Possible. However you do not have access to Prime Movies.

Exactly. I've had Amazon Prime for years. I have it for the movies/TV. The "free" shipping is just an added bonus. If you don't order a LOT from Amazon or you don't utilize their video service, Prime is a waste of money.

K80Shooter
01-05-2021, 05:31 PM
Thanks, once I found out the brand it was easy. (Vredestein Quatrac 5) We sometimes forget when we abbreviate that not everyone knows what we're talking about.

Have a good day. :cheers:

Snoking1127
01-05-2021, 06:50 PM
Exactly. I've had Amazon Prime for years. I have it for the movies/TV. The "free" shipping is just an added bonus. If you don't order a LOT from Amazon or you don't utilize their video service, Prime is a waste of money.

Prime truck shows up a couple times a week for us. Got two items today and another 36MM end wrench for rear axle is tomorrow. So I think we are doing ok. Also returning a defective item is very easy. Chris

Possible
01-13-2021, 02:07 PM
Just looked at the date code on Peggy's Spyder: 5212- 52nd week of 2012. So the Federals will be ordered shortly, and I guess the Kumho
for the rear.

And new Michelin Pilot Power 2CT for the Interceptor, front and rear.

Just need an opinion or two: I have the Marc Parnes balancer and the balancer shaft isn't long enough for the rear tire on the Spyder, so I
need a longer shaft. It's a standard 1/2" shaft, Marc Parnes has a 14" one for $25 w/shipping, but I can buy a plain ol' steel shaft locally for
about $10. I really like Marc Parnes balancer and feel that supporting his business is a good thing, and $15 won't break the bank. So should
I spring for the Marc Parnes shaft and support the small business, or go the sensible route and buy locally? Any advice appreciated.

Snoking1127
01-13-2021, 04:17 PM
One of the other things I am realizing, is the Spyder steers easier at slow speeds with the Federal's installed. And there a section of ruff paving just outside of the RV Resort in the right turn lane that would cause the Kenda's want to track off to the left where the through traffic in the main lane is buzzing by. With the Federals I have not experienced this.

Possible
01-13-2021, 04:28 PM
That's a plus.