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Quartermain
04-10-2020, 10:46 AM
Hi, all. 2019 RTL. I've seen some of the walk arounds on You Tube that say it has a "hill holder assist feature, but can't find anything in the owners manual about this. Anyone? (And please don't say thats what brakes are for)
Maggie Valley and the Blue Ridge Parkway are practically empty due to the virus. Cherokee is actually closed/barriers up to anyone not a resident. Police checking I.Ds. Sad, really.
These areas depend so much on tourism to keep afloat. Stay safe, everyone!

Navydad
04-10-2020, 11:04 AM
My 2015 RT doesn't have it. My pick up truck does have it so I know the difference.

Quartermain
04-10-2020, 11:14 AM
Thanks, Navydad. I think I heard CoachBob say something about it on YouTube. Have to check again. Was just curious.

SpyderAnn01
04-10-2020, 11:28 AM
The new Goldwings have it and my Toyota Sienna has it but never heard of it on a Spyder.

CopperSpyder
04-10-2020, 11:34 AM
The Spyder is light and with the engine and trans setup when you let off the throttle the high engine compression will slow you down or hold you back some and you can all ways down shift to help with that in most cases. I was trying to think if I have ever gained speed going down hill when I roll out of the throttle and I don't ever remember doing that, in fact I seem to all ways slow down as I remember. I do have some pretty good hills around here too. So all tho I don't know of any hill hold assist feature on the Spyder I don't think is needed. So now I'll have to go to the hill this week and take note. lol

UPDATE, I WAS WRONG SEE BELOW!!

triplethreat
04-10-2020, 11:51 AM
The Spyder is light and with the engine and trans setup when you let off the throttle the high engine compression will slow you down or hold you back some and you can all ways down shift to help with that in most cases. I was trying to think if I have ever gained speed going down hill when I roll out of the throttle and I don't ever remember doing that, in fact I seem to all ways slow down as I remember. I do have some pretty good hills around here too. So all tho I don't know of any hill hold assist feature on the Spyder I don't think is needed. So now I'll have to go to the hill this week and take note. lol

I took to mean that he was asking about a hill holder feature for when you are stopped on an incline/hill and it was supposed to keep the bike from rolling backwards if your foot wasn't on the brake. My F350 Dually has that feature and it's called hill assist.

CopperSpyder
04-10-2020, 12:03 PM
Oh ya I get it my misunderstanding. My bad. I was thinking like jake brake thing. Thank You for the correction.

Yabbadabbadoo
04-10-2020, 12:06 PM
Looking at the 2020 operator's manual for my F3, it is mentioned in there.

IdahoMtnSpyder
04-10-2020, 12:53 PM
You sure? A search of the 2020 F3 manual doesn't find hill or hold.

IdahoMtnSpyder
04-10-2020, 12:55 PM
Hi, all. 2019 RTL. I've seen some of the walk arounds on You Tube that say it has a "hill holder assist feature, but can't find anything in the owners manual about this. Anyone? (And please don't say thats what brakes are for)
Maggie Valley and the Blue Ridge Parkway are practically empty due to the virus. Cherokee is actually closed/barriers up to anyone not a resident. Police checking I.Ds. Sad, really.
These areas depend so much on tourism to keep afloat. Stay safe, everyone!
It's a feature of the Ryker, not RT or F3.

BLUEKNIGHT911
04-10-2020, 01:07 PM
My 14 RT will hold on a modest Hill at idle but not if the Hill is steeper - - unless I give it just a tad of gas ...... Mike :thumbup:

Yabbadabbadoo
04-10-2020, 01:54 PM
Page 69 in the 2020 F3 Operators Manual.

IdahoMtnSpyder
04-10-2020, 03:21 PM
Page 69 in the 2020 F3 Operators Manual.
Very interesting! This is indeed in the 2020 F3 Operators Guide. It is also in the 2019 Operator's Guide, but not the 2020 RT Operator's Guide. It also is not in the 2015 to 2018 F3 Operator's Guides which indicates it was introduced in the 2019 F3. It is also in the 2019 & 2020 Ryker Operator's Guide. The 2020 Ryker guide also cannot be searched and copied.

The reason I couldn't find it is because in the 2020 F3 guide everything beginning with the Table of Contents uses a foreign character set. The PDF displays English characters and words, but the words are not searchable using English words. You cannot copy and paste text from the 2020 F3 guide. A royal foul up by the BRP document people! All their other guides are searchable and the text can be copied.

fatboy
04-10-2020, 03:43 PM
its a feature on the harleys

Yabbadabbadoo
04-10-2020, 03:47 PM
Very interesting! This is indeed in the 2020 F3 Operators Guide. It is also in the 2019 Operator's Guide, but not the 2020 RT Operator's Guide. It also is not in the 2015 to 2018 F3 Operator's Guides which indicates it was introduced in the 2019 F3. It is also in the 2019 & 2020 Ryker Operator's Guide. The 2020 Ryker guide also cannot be searched and copied.

The reason I couldn't find it is because in the 2020 F3 guide everything beginning with the Table of Contents uses a foreign character set. The PDF displays English characters and words, but the words are not searchable using English words. You cannot copy and paste text from the 2020 F3 guide. A royal foul up by the BRP document people! All their other guides are searchable and the text can be copied.

No worries. Their pdf's and documentation suck.

IdahoMtnSpyder
04-10-2020, 03:55 PM
No worries. Their pdf's and documentation suck.
Yeah, but I will say it's actually more like a Dust Buster than a Shop-Vac!! IOW, they don't suck too greatly!

rwcooperuk
04-05-2021, 04:39 PM
So...went outside on my new F3 Limited...moved it to hill...let off the brake and ...wala...it rolls backward. Incline was more than 5 percent (not sure them mean % or degrees). The book says this:

Hill Hold Control (HHC)
This vehicles has a hill hold control (HHC) function.
While in gear (forward or reverse) and when going up on a slope fromstandstill,
the VSS will hold the brakes when brake pedal is released, and automatically
release the brakes as soon as the throttle is applied.
NOTE: A minimum slope of 5% is required to activate the hill hold control.
This function is automatic and does not need to be activated by the driver.
NOTE: The HHC is active for 1 second when the brake pedal is released.



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Snoking1127
04-05-2021, 05:30 PM
Page 69 in the 2020 F3 Operators Manual.

On my RAM truck it would stay active until I took off. I liked the feature. The road to my RC flying flied dropped sharply from the highway. I would pull up to leave and it would just stay on the hill until I throttled up to enter the highway.

MRH
04-05-2021, 08:29 PM
I never felt one on 2014 RT-S, but do notice that my 2020 RT-L will sometimes lock up on a hill rather than roll backwards.

acdcking12
04-06-2021, 09:46 AM
Why not just hold the brake in and not worry?

ARtraveler
04-06-2021, 09:53 AM
Based on the posts, looks like the 20's have it. We use the brake, and have no issues or problems. Just like the ECO button, we don't use that either. :bowdown:

EdMat
04-06-2021, 12:53 PM
My 2019 RTL seems to have about a half second hold.

redrazor
04-06-2021, 12:58 PM
:firstplace: I carry a pair of these in the Frunk, and use them whenever I park on an uphill or down hill spot. Very effective and affordable from Amazon. They are the bomb! Check it out.:yes:


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Piratezz
04-06-2021, 02:04 PM
Hillhold wil only work for a second, if you let your foot of the brake, before take-of. Used this many times on my f3s 2019, works like a charm, it's not a hillhold like on cars where you keep in gear, and take your foot of the brakepedal, and the car stands still
It's on the spyder only designed for smooth take-off on a a hill, for a stopping light or a crossroad incline. I think that it's preventing clutch problems