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zman
03-23-2020, 09:06 PM
looking for trunk lid gaz shock for 2013 RT

BLUEKNIGHT911
03-23-2020, 09:48 PM
looking for trunk lid gaz shock for 2013 RT

One option is to look for one at McMaster Carr ..... take yours off and measure it .... then get one with a lift strength of at least 15lbs.... more if you have added a rack and plasn to carry stuff on it ...... look in the advanced search for rear trunk struts .... others have posted info on this .... Mike :ohyea:

2dogs
03-23-2020, 10:25 PM
Lots of reading here but good info. I double strutted my trunk lid because i have a rack on it. Amazon is the best price for the strut. Good luck....have fun.

https://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemparts/a/cam/53f54805f870021dbc21b895/luggages

Part number umber 99.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjhvfTHI4oY&feature=youtu.be

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?101011-Trunk-replacement-shock-on-RT-trunk

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?118955-Rear-trunk-strut-replacement

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?93228-Rear-trunk-gas-shock&highlight=trunk+spring

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?124844-Parts-list-for-Gas-Struts

https://www.amazon.com/708300383-Replacement-Lift-Support-Can-Am/dp/B01MDPI3O9/ref=au_as_r?_encoding=UTF8&Make=Can-Am%7C1180&Model=Spyder%20RT-S%20%28SE6%29%7C24063&Year=2014%7C2014&ie=UTF8&n=15684181&newVehicle=1&s=automotive&vehicleId=1&vehicleType=motorcycle

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?111707-Gas-shock-for-trunk

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?110653-Trunk-Part

PMK
03-24-2020, 06:51 AM
I rebuilt ours on the 2014. Unfortunately rebuilding difficulty is a 5 out of 5 on the difficulty scale for the majority of readers here.

2dogs
03-24-2020, 01:00 PM
I rebuilt ours on the 2014. Unfortunately rebuilding difficulty is a 5 out of 5 on the difficulty scale for the majority of readers here.

Yes PMK, I believe I have to agree with you. That's one reason I put so much info up there because the job is actually a 1.5 on that scale. Mainly because you don't have to get down on your knees to accomplish it.

JayBros
03-24-2020, 01:46 PM
FWIW and because my original shock gives up the ghost when the temp drops I've updated Cruzr Joe's numbers from Cheap Cycle Parts as below.

708300383 Gas Shock, $61.99
250000843 Torx Truss Screw M6X30 $1.99
708300384 Spacer for Torx Truss Screw M6X30), $11.49
232361493 Domed Nut M6, $1.99
250300039 Ball Head Stud, (For Bottom of Shock), $10.49
233281414 Hex Flanged Elastic Nut M8 (For Ball Head Stud), $1.99

Total cost to do the job $89.94 + S/H

2dogs
03-24-2020, 02:03 PM
Once again from Amazon.

Qty (1) 708300383 Replacement Lift Support For Can-Am Spyder RT 2010 To 2017
by Lift Supports Depot
4.6 out of 5 stars
Price: $44.90 & FREE Shipping

2dogs
03-24-2020, 02:22 PM
My goodness. We all paid a ridiculously high price for a pile of over priced parts when we bought our rides. But it is what it is and it's simply the wind in our faces and the freedom of the road. Many folks here have helped us all out by doing research on replacement parts. I thank them each and everyone very much for jobs well done.

BLUEKNIGHT911
03-24-2020, 02:26 PM
Once again from Amazon.

Qty (1) 708300383 Replacement Lift Support For Can-Am Spyder RT 2010 To 2017
by Lift Supports Depot
4.6 out of 5 stars
Price: $44.90 & FREE Shipping
Thanks for the part number ..... but the one from McMaster Carr is about $17.00 ..... just sayin ..... Mike :ohyea:

jcthorne
03-24-2020, 02:33 PM
Thanks for the part number ..... but the one from McMaster Carr is about $17.00 ..... just sayin ..... Mike :ohyea:

Please post the part number or a link to the one in McMaster Carr catalog. I and others have gone down this rabbit hole and come up empty.

BLUEKNIGHT911
03-24-2020, 03:31 PM
Please post the part number or a link to the one in McMaster Carr catalog. I and others have gone down this rabbit hole and come up empty.

spyder01 posted ( a new thread on this ) on 8-15-19, and gave a McMasterCarr parts list for the rear trunk strut..... just enter- McMaster Carr - ... in the search box to find it ...... Mike :ohyea:

BLUEKNIGHT911
03-24-2020, 03:32 PM
One option is to look for one at McMaster Carr ..... take yours off and measure it .... then get one with a lift strength of at least 15lbs.... more if you have added a rack and plasn to carry stuff on it ...... look in the advanced search for rear trunk struts .... others have posted info on this .... Mike :ohyea:....see post # 10 above to find part numbers

2dogs
03-24-2020, 04:40 PM
Thanks for the part number ..... but the one from McMaster Carr is about $17.00 ..... just sayin ..... Mike :ohyea:

I tried this rabbit hole also Mike. Finally made a phone call and was told that one end of that strut was not compatible. With maybe the thousands of struts they produce how could that be? Possible nefarious reasons?

samewok
03-24-2020, 04:50 PM
The one on the Rt is a 20 lbs the one you need is at oriellys SG359011 it is 40 lbs. just make sure the back bolts are tight.
I had one on my 2011 and 2015 with no problem

BLUEKNIGHT911
03-24-2020, 06:25 PM
I tried this rabbit hole also Mike. Finally made a phone call and was told that one end of that strut was not compatible. With maybe the thousands of struts they produce how could that be? Possible nefarious reasons?

" nefarious reasons " ..... whose n.f. .... McmasterCarr ??? ... they have ZERO reasons to be doing that .... I have been using them for dozen's x's dozen's of items for decades. They have always given me honest service ..... Yes the struts they offer have quite a few Difference choices for the type of connection you want .... pick a matching end ..... I think spyder01 explained that ...... or just buy the ones from Amazon ...... Mike :ohyea:

BLUEKNIGHT911
03-24-2020, 06:27 PM
The one on the Rt is a 20 lbs the one you need is at oriellys SG359011 it is 40 lbs. just make sure the back bolts are tight.
I had one on my 2011 and 2015 with no problem

40lbs.???? remember that's 40 lbs even when it's completely closed .... that puts double the stress on the connections from OEM .... I don't think that's a good long term answer...... jmho ..... Mike :ohyea:

PMK
03-24-2020, 07:36 PM
Yes PMK, I believe I have to agree with you. That's one reason I put so much info up there because the job is actually a 1.5 on that scale. Mainly because you don't have to get down on your knees to accomplish it.

But my cost was less than $1

2dogs
03-24-2020, 11:36 PM
But my cost was less than $1

Well good for you, but don't keep your $1 fix a secret. That's why we're here, to help our fellow spyder owners. Both new and old.

LJspydee
03-24-2020, 11:49 PM
Sachs SG359011 Lift Support will work. I ordered from Amazon for about $15. I used it on the left side to double the lift capacity with a rack and a bag on the trunk lid.

PMK
03-25-2020, 02:20 AM
Well good for you, but don't keep your $1 fix a secret. That's why we're here, to help our fellow spyder owners. Both new and old.

I did not keep any secrets. In a previous topic details and photos were posted. As I mentioned, cost is very low but difficult to do. This scares away others. I was honest stating a difficulty of 5 on a scale of 5.

Eckhard
03-25-2020, 02:32 PM
I did not keep any secrets. In a previous topic details and photos were posted. As I mentioned, cost is very low but difficult to do. This scares away others. I was honest stating a difficulty of 5 on a scale of 5. Not much usable info above. Give us a thrill and supply a link. Thanks in advance.

2dogs
03-25-2020, 02:40 PM
I did not keep any secrets. In a previous topic details and photos were posted. As I mentioned, cost is very low but difficult to do. This scares away others. I was honest stating a difficulty of 5 on a scale of 5.

Secret was likely the wrong word to use, I apologize. No malaise was intended. Personally i just felt the job was not that difficult. No bending stooping or crawling like what's required to do a 9k service. I even added additional support to the contact points of my strut(s) by using fender washers, which required slight alterations. I know there are some folks (not necessarily here) that quiver at the sight of a screwdriver. I believe spyder owners don't generally fit in that category. I'd saved the links I posted to my list of favorites files so I can easily recover them and share them with others. Possibly one of the links was yours.

PMK
03-25-2020, 04:20 PM
Not much usable info above. Give us a thrill and supply a link. Thanks in advance.

Again my opinion is this is a 5 out of 5 difficulty for most here.
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?128295-Blueknight-You-May-Enjoy-This&highlight=Gas+strut+1000

jcthorne
03-26-2020, 01:29 PM
Sachs SG359011 Lift Support will work. I ordered from Amazon for about $15. I used it on the left side to double the lift capacity with a rack and a bag on the trunk lid.

Nope, that part number will get you a strut about 15" long. Perhaps you were ordering one for the seat? That one is not for the trunk.

jcthorne
03-26-2020, 01:33 PM
spyder01 posted ( a new thread on this ) on 8-15-19, and gave a McMasterCarr parts list for the rear trunk strut..... just enter- McMaster Carr - ... in the search box to find it ...... Mike :ohyea:


So I stupidly went down this rabbit hole again. The part number for the strut given is 9416K17, 40lbs. I ordered the 3 parts given and one end is correct, the eye bolt end is the wrong size to fit a spyder and the strut is over 15" long. WAY too long to fit a spyder trunk. The other part number is 9416K11 which is about 3/4 inch too short to be used for the rear trunk.

Please do not give this information again, its flat out wrong and folks will just waste money ordering it. Now I have $22 worth of 'spare' parts that fit nothing.

Further research in the McMaster Carr catalog with the BRP strut and ruler in front of me, they do not have a strut of the correct length nor correct eye fitting. The BRP ones are custom for application just as BRP told me years ago.

Eckhard
03-26-2020, 02:09 PM
Again my opinion is this is a 5 out of 5 difficulty for most here.
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?128295-Blueknight-You-May-Enjoy-This&highlight=Gas+strut+1000 Thanks for sharing with us. Stay healthy!!

IdahoMtnSpyder
03-26-2020, 03:43 PM
Further research in the McMaster Carr catalog with the BRP strut and ruler in front of me, they do not have a strut of the correct length nor correct eye fitting. The BRP ones are custom for application just as BRP told me years ago.
As I recall Mike said the M-C struts were put together from individual parts and pieces, not a complete off the shelf unit. Which way did you come up empty, one or both?

I found the ones from Amazon by Lift Depot noted above worked quite well other than I had to make a spacer for the eye end to accommodate the smaller diameter Spyder bolt. It's a loose fit but for the trunk lid that doesn't matter. Here's what I did. https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?93412-Gas-strut-for-trunk-on-the-RT&p=1406313&viewfull=1#post1406313

For sure, for a direct "plug and play" replacement the BRP ones are the only ones available, it looks like.

2dogs
03-26-2020, 09:07 PM
As I recall Mike said the M-C struts were put together from individual parts and pieces, not a complete off the shelf unit. Which way did you come up empty, one or both?

I found the ones from Amazon by Lift Depot noted above worked quite well other than I had to make a spacer for the eye end to accommodate the smaller diameter Spyder bolt. It's a loose fit but for the trunk lid that doesn't matter. Here's what I did. https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?93412-Gas-strut-for-trunk-on-the-RT&p=1406313&viewfull=1#post1406313

For sure, for a direct "plug and play" replacement the BRP ones are the only ones available, it looks like.

I did exactly as you did including the trip Napa. I found the perfect spacer at Ace Hardware. It fit just like it was made for it.

jcthorne
03-27-2020, 08:30 AM
As I recall Mike said the M-C struts were put together from individual parts and pieces, not a complete off the shelf unit. Which way did you come up empty, one or both?

I found the ones from Amazon by Lift Depot noted above worked quite well other than I had to make a spacer for the eye end to accommodate the smaller diameter Spyder bolt. It's a loose fit but for the trunk lid that doesn't matter. Here's what I did. https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?93412-Gas-strut-for-trunk-on-the-RT&p=1406313&viewfull=1#post1406313

For sure, for a direct "plug and play" replacement the BRP ones are the only ones available, it looks like.

Came up empty both ways and the parts list in the referenced post are incorrect length as well.

PMK
03-27-2020, 10:09 AM
Came up empty both ways and the parts list in the referenced post are incorrect length as well.

Excited, I too gave a look at possibly using aftermarket items based on posts here. One post seemed promising, but required buying a series of individual items. Uncertain if the results would be acceptable, I toyed with simply buying oem parts.

Having worked with Gas Springs in other applications before, I knew most likely the issue was pressure loss and not complete seal failure. Opted away from buying any parts, and still never sorted out if the items listed in these Spyderlovers posts would be the equivalent or better than oem.

Myron Ah
03-27-2020, 12:00 PM
I bought a prop rod from Pierre at CanamSpyderaccessories.com. It was easier than replacing the gas shock. It looks good. works good. Have not been ryding yet so use has been limited to install but seems ok.

Elwood58
03-27-2020, 02:53 PM
Just replaced my trunk strut with the Amazon part referenced above. No more falling trunk lid for us.
179856

Lewtoo
04-01-2020, 10:34 AM
Here's the quick, easy, and inexpensive solution to a bad trunk gaz shock: Don't replace it! Just get one of the flat, blue, often free LED flashlights from Harbor Freight. It's the perfect size and shape to slip between the trunk hinge and the housing to hold the lid open. It's a good idea to have a flashlight on a vehicle anyhow, so keep it in the trunk and it'll be there for either purpose.

safecracker
04-29-2020, 07:25 PM
Just received and installed new gas shock for trunk lid. Works great. Ordered from Amazon. Offered by Lift Supports Depot, $44.00. Bruce