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rugercharger
11-04-2019, 08:31 PM
to the spyder community. i guess i just had it with the motorcycle publications and general motorcycle 2 wheel community and their rants about profiling spyder buyers as people who cant ride a 2 wheel motorcyce, or dont have good balance on two wheels or are just intimidated just thinking about it.

I for one bought my spyder rt because i was getting uncomfortable with my wife as a passenger on my victory cross country that we enjoyed for 8 years. ever since she was involved in a pretty bad automobile accident she was paranoid any time someone looked like they were going to pull out in front of us. this started affecting my confidence with riding with her on the back of my bike. i had a decision to make. just ride by myself and enjoy my beast of a bike, which was no fun without her, or consider an alternative that she would feel more confident with. she felt more secure sitting on the rt when we looked at it. so i did what any loving husband would do, i gave up the victory, and purchased my spyder.

So far we have ridden more just in the last few months than we have since her accident 2 years ago. no regrets. now i must admit, at first, when i test drove the spyder, i did not llke it. but i reminded myself why i was considering it. that over ruled my objection to it. so i bought it anyway and sold my victory.

So what are my thoughts on the spyder? well,i become more impressed with it after every ride. the spyder is a well designed and engineered vehicle. after adjusting to how it handles,it is alot of fun. the 3 wheel factor also makes alot of sense. last sunday i wound up on a farmers piece of property where he stores some of his equipment which was dirt and gravel with some rocks thrown in. on my victory it would have been challenging to even consider, on my spyder i just moved ahead, not a problem.

i get more impressed with the technology that is in this spyder every week i tinker with it. i believe that the 2 wheel people that have a grudge with this 3 wheel layout are just in denial. so the question is ..............for some of you that transitioned from two wheels to the spyder, why did you make the move? now i will say, i did keep one of my bikes because i felt that i would be riding it when the wife is not riding. i was wrong, it sits alot because i like riding the spyder even when the wife is not going on a ride. just saying. i guess i dont fit the general motorcycle community profile.:chat:

Edited by breaking the article into paragraphs to make it easier on the eyes for the readers. No changes were made to any of the text...all as written by the OP.

Deanna777
11-04-2019, 08:35 PM
:welcome:

and :congrats:

Deanna

strykerAKAmack
11-04-2019, 08:51 PM
Started out at 7 on a honda 50 trail bike ,last bike b4 accident that had me off bikes for 11 years was yzf r6 .
bad back , bum leg couldn't throw a leg over or put any weight on it to keep it upright at a stop .
Missed riding like no tomorrow .
Been on an 18 F3S M6 for just over a year now and lovin life back in the wind .
I just tell those who question y 3 wheels that I'm ahead of the curve
Only thing missing is lanesplitting in traffic .

Spyder Insyder
11-04-2019, 10:12 PM
I'm 70 years old riding on two wheels since I was 16. At last count, I've owned 30 motorcycles, including 6 Goldwings and 2 Harley Road kings. Over the years the wife and I put a lot of miles on the Goldwings. However as I have gotten older, I no longer feel confident on an 800+ lb. motorcycle with luggage and a passenger. So last year I sold the Goldwing (GL1800) and bought the Spyder RTL. Since then, we have taken several out of state trips on the Spyder and have put almost 10,000 miles on it. I still ride solo on the Harley, but everything 2-up is on the Spyder. The RTL is a great touring machine, and the perfect replacement for the Goldwing.

Haze
11-05-2019, 12:29 AM
12 yrs riding. Had a bad accident on the scooter that caused me to give up on 2 wheels.
Went head on with a hit and run driver who appeared to be texting as he crossed into my lane.
Even after the accident& recovery I wanted to get back into the wind. 6 mo wait and the Spyder was
the solution to touring size and stability.

pegasus1300
11-05-2019, 12:45 AM
50+ years on two wheels, bad accident that affected my balance, plus I realized that my situational awareness was not what it should be to keep riding on 2 wheels. I was not, however, ready to give up riding. I bought a Goldwing trike, put lots of miles on it, never liked it, sold it, and bought a Spyder RT and never looked back. My wife will not ride on 2 wheels anymore but she will ride on the Spyder from time to time. I love it.

Little Blue
11-05-2019, 04:09 AM
:shemademe_smilie: I had a bike before I was married and she was okay with this. Fast forward, a little Girl was born and the bike needed to GO. Twenty-five years later, I was thinking 'time to get a motorcycle'. We went to a local motorcycle shop, 'just to look'. I saw my first Spyder (a 2013). I fell in love with that Special Spyder. A few years later, I was the proud owner of a 2016 RTL. We both love the Time and Always RYDE SAFE........:yes: :yes:.........:thumbup:

MakoShark2
11-05-2019, 04:29 AM
45 years old, +30 riding on two wheels (although not all of them regularly).
I'm Located in Europe and I did had my share of travel on two wheels. Went to Morocco, ridden the dunes. Did the mythic Stelvio pass in Italy, Grossglockner high Apline road in Austria. Ridden the Picos de Europa National park in Spain, the Alps and Pyrenees mountains up and down. But did all of this solo as I never got comfortable riding two up for longer rides.
So it was more than time to have some touring time with the Missus and the Spyder just looked perfect for that.
One year and 16.000km (10.000mi) after, no regrets on changing. The Spyder is a wonderful touring machine, fun to ride and I don't miss a single bit of the two wheels driving thrill.

Saluda
11-05-2019, 07:00 AM
Welcome.

Blackrain047
11-05-2019, 07:01 AM
Well... I have all the strength to ride a 2-wheeler, but with the Spyder, I just love them! I don't have to worry to much about balance, more visible on the road, wife feels safer and we're more comfortable and...

It's DIFFERENT! About 8 out of 10 bikes on the road looks all the same nowadays. I like to be different and the Spyder attracts a lot of attention. :thumbup:

PMK
11-05-2019, 07:14 AM
The original post is somewhat similar to us. My wife is not comfortable on a two wheel motorcycle. Myself, I would not have purchased the Spyder. Our 2014 RTS was bought for both of us. At this time, I have no issues concerning riding on two wheels. The Spyder was a means for us to ride together. I still have other motorcycles, she tells me I have too many.

Wahrsuul
11-05-2019, 07:23 AM
I think the profiling by the two-wheelers is the usual "this is our opinion, don't bother us with facts". I'm still able to ride "regular" bikes, but as with the OP, my wife is not. Since I didn't care for 'wing trikes, we went with the Spyder. She loves it, and I enjoy using it to commute.

cruisinTX
11-05-2019, 08:10 AM
to the spyder community. i guess i just had it with the motorcycle publications and general motorcycle 2 wheel community and their rants about profiling spyder buyers as people who cant ride a 2 wheel motorcyce, or dont have good balance on two wheels or are just intimidated just thinking about it. I for one bought my spyder rt because i was getting uncomfortable with my wife as a passenger on my victory cross country that we enjoyed for 8 years. ever since she was involved in a pretty bad automobile accident she was paranoid any time someone looked like they were going to pull out in front of us. this started affecting my confidence with riding with her on the back of my bike. i had a decision to make. just ride by myself and enjoy my beast of a bike, which was no fun without her, or consider an alternative that she would feel more confident with. she felt more secure sitting on the rt when we looked at it. so i did what any loving husband would do, i gave up the victory, and purchased my spyder. so far we have ridden more just in the last few months than we have since her accident 2 years ago. no regrets. now i must admit, at first, when i test drove the spyder, i did not llke it. but i reminded myself why i was considering it. that over ruled my objection to it. so i bought it anyway and sold my victory. so what are my thoughts on the spyder? well,i become more impressed with it after every ride. the spyder is a well designed and engineered vehicle. after adjusting to how it handles,it is alot of fun. the 3 wheel factor also makes alot of sense. last sunday i wound up on a farmers piece of property where he stores some of his equipment which was dirt and gravel with some rocks thrown in. on my victory it would have been challenging to even consider, on my spyder i just moved ahead, not a problem. i get more impressed with the technology that is in this spyder every week i tinker with it. i believe that the 2 wheel people that have a grudge with this 3 wheel layout are just in denial. so the question is ..............for some of you that transitioned from two wheels to the spyder, why did you make the move? now i will say, i did keep one of my bikes because i felt that i would be riding it when the wife is not riding. i was wrong, it sits alot because i like riding the spyder even when the wife is not going on a ride. just saying. i guess i dont fit the general motorcycle community profile.:chat:

WOW! I was going to post a longer response, but your story came across as almost identical to mine. Only two big differences; I have not yet sold any bikes and initial purchase of the Spyder was for it to be her ride to tag along with me on a bike. Otherwise very similar situation in that I no longer feel comfortable two up on a bike and the Spyder solves that problem. We now do two up on the Spyder a lot because she does not have the stamina to drive herself for more than an hour or so. I don't mind taking the back seat though as it gives me the chance to look around with camera in hand like she used to do when we only had a bike.

blacklightning
11-05-2019, 09:05 AM
I started riding in August 2006. Purchased the bike for a 40th birthday gift to myself. My kids were old enough, and we were financially in a position to purchase a "toy". Riding changed my life. In August of 2014, the wife and I looked at the spyder and said how nice it would be to get one in a few years for us to enjoy together. The next month, I had an accident on my 2003 ZZR1200. The wife wanted me to sell and stop riding all together. 3 weeks later, I picked up the 2014 RT and told her, "look honey, I can't fall over!" After riding that for 2 years, I decided to pickup another 2 wheeler. But after only 6 months, I didn't feel comfortable, but still wanted something sportier than my RT. So I sold the 2 wheeler and picked up a 2012 RSS. After another 6 months, I decided to sell the RT, and trade in the RSS for my current F3T. I did pick up another 2 wheeler and love it. But I will always have a spyder of some sort. That gives me the confidence to have a passenger (my wife). Which is something that I never would do on 2 wheels.

lloydw1
11-05-2019, 09:20 AM
Have arthritis in both hips. Will soon be having the left and then right side done as soon as I can after. Considered selling my Spyder in the spring. I'm addicted to the sound of big V-twins. BUT after much thought I'm keeping my F3T. I enjoy the more relaxing ride and the added safety of that third wheel. I'm 50 and have over 25yrs of 2 wheel experience and riding in the rain always scared the crap out of me.....on the Spyder the rain is nothing to really worry about. Besides the only bikes that have my attention are the Yamaha Venture and the new Indian Challenger,expensive to me. My '16 F3T is paid for so taking a loan out just isn't worth it. Besides I now have the BRP chrome rear wheel and I have my rear pulley out to get chromed as I type this........gotta keep it now lol

Woodaddict
11-05-2019, 10:26 AM
I have always been interested in the Spyder, the looks, being different. For my wife who feels more comfortable on 3 wheels and will ride more. At 58 I didn't want to spend a lot of money on a BIG luxury 2 wheeler and then loose money going to a Spyder after I would have gotten tired of holding up a BIG 2 wheeler.
So the Spyder is our first luxury motorcycle, saved for trips, every now on then. My previous BIGGEST bike was 800cc, nothing bigger than that ever.I still have a 2 wheeler to take me back and forth to work. I average 28-31 K per year between the 2.
Just did a "out west trip" last year, Colorado, Wyoming, S Dakota, 2 weeks, 7,600 miles. 2017 trip to Maine and Canada. Both times Spyder performed without any problems.
Been Spyder owner for 2.5 yrs now.

ARtraveler
11-05-2019, 11:00 AM
Happily, for me, the health issues that drove me away from two wheels have mostly been solved. The hip that made one leg unable to give support to two wheeling was fixed in 2016.

Ownership of Spyders, started in 2008 for me. It started as a unique way to own three wheels. The ride was cool, and we got lots of looks and questions from others. From 08 to 11, I had both flavors in the garage.

When the hip started acting up, two wheels got put on the back burner. I did not go back to two wheels until 2017. I still ride my Vulcan regularly. I love the two wheel experience for some special wind therapy.

I know that the time will come when I no longer feel safe on two....at 74 (soon), I know the two wheel days may be getting numbered.

Happily, I will still have three to ride when I want to.

Chupaca
11-05-2019, 11:09 AM
after 60+ years on motorcycles of all kinds I sold off all and figured I had run the gamit. Though I never ran across the spyder till 2011 I found them new and different from the standard trike or side car. We moved to southern CA in 2011 and the wife said we needed to have a motorcycle once again. I said if we do it would be a spyder.....so 2012 she bought me one....:clap: love it....:bowdown:

HayRog
11-05-2019, 11:26 AM
Great thread starter Rugercharger :D

I'm 74 years old. Wife and I travelled extensively, two-up on 2 wheels for many years. Suzukis, Hondas, Yamahas, etc.
Arthritis started creeping up on me - wrist, fingers and ankles, this made riding 2 wheels less fun and painful :(
It was a joint decision to buy the Spyder in 2015 and it's been working out perfectly for us both. :2thumbs:

cruisinTX
11-05-2019, 12:25 PM
Great thread starter Rugercharger :D

I'm 74 years old. Wife and I travelled extensively, two-up on 2 wheels for many years. Suzukis, Hondas, Yamahas, etc.
Arthritis started creeping up on me - wrist, fingers and ankles, this made riding 2 wheels less fun and painful :(
It was a joint decision to buy the Spyder in 2015 and it's been working out perfectly for us both. :2thumbs:


OK, when you say "joint decision," does that mean your joints told you it's time or does it mean you and the wife made the decision together? :yikes: sorry; but someone had to ask.

GSSpyder2008
11-05-2019, 03:34 PM
Because I was not fully enjoying riding two wheels anymore - confidence on wet slippery roads was in low. With Spyder the difference is huge as ride now on slippery leaf covered roads almost as fast as dry roads. Love riding with my children on the back ( not too fast and their mother is happy fpr them to go now)

VLADI
11-05-2019, 04:03 PM
And I bought it more out of interest to try something new. CBR 954 is now gathering dust in the garage. Attention spider attracts a lot including most importantly the opposite sex)))))

tntnj
11-05-2019, 04:09 PM
I have interested in these bikes since they cam out . That being said , I got my motorcycle License in 1970 at age 17. A classmate got in to two accidents in two weeks so I stopped riding . when i turned 50 I bought a new Yamaha road star (Loved it) I bought a 1998 Harley Heritage Softail Had that until 2016 . I stopped riding because my legs were hurting and I did not feel comfortable on 2 wheels. I liked the RT but when the F3 came out , that was the bike for me , Nov 3, I just bought a 2017 F3 LTD . Just getting the paper work done I will have it next week.


Ps: I have learned a lot on this site From how to change the oil and how to relax and ride without a death grip:yikes:

DGoebel
11-05-2019, 04:35 PM
to the spyder community. ....

I for one bought my spyder rt because i was getting uncomfortable with my wife as a passenger on my ...
Ditto to all that and welcome! My wife and I have rode more on the Spyder than all our previous bikes... and I enjoy mine more and more every month.

Navydad
11-05-2019, 09:06 PM
My wife and I have been riding together for over 40 years. We have seen a lot of this great country together. She got a break for a bit when the kids were old enough to travel with dad. We have always had sport touring bikes BMW RT's, Honda ST's, had a 2014 Triumph Trophy which we put 100K on and loved it, amazing touring machine. Had one Wing, hated it. It got to the place where I wasn't comfortable with me, her, and 50 pounds of clean socks on a heavier bike with a high seat height and a high center of gravity. She was sensing that I wasn't as confident and it made her a bit uneasy. Not good. We test rode an Ultra Glide and a couple of other bikes with a lower seat. Didn't like them. Borrowed a friends GW trike for a week. Nope. Test rode a Spyder RT for giggles and took one home. We really like it for our two up trips and rack up the miles on it since I got her to retire. I keep a crotch rocket with a tank bag and tail bag in the garage for that occasional solo weekend blast on the twisty roads. No issues until I stop and it takes me five minutes to get both legs straightened out :roflblack: Get a few strange looks from the youngsters on their crotch rockets when they see the gray hair, what there is of it. I guess it doesn't matter what we rode or still ride. What matters is we all share the love of riding and the Spyder has allowed many to keep riding when we may have otherwise called it quits.

Northofthesix
11-05-2019, 10:16 PM
I always wanted to ride a bike, my older brother had one when I was a kid but had an accident that laid him up a while, so I never acted on my interest until, at turning 50, I decided "If not now, when?" and bought a new Honda Shadow and went to learn to ride it. 14 years, about 200,000 km and three bikes later (Yamaha 1300 v-twin, Harley Dyna and Yamaha Venture) I was reaching the point where low speed maneouvering was really starting to be difficult and after a couple minor incidents that COULD have been much worse, I decided I either had to find a solution or give up riding. I have a couple riding buddies with spyders and they encouraged me to think about making the move... and so glad I did!! Only a couple thousand clicks in so far, but it has been such a relief to see that I can have as much fun as on 2 wheels... and feel more confident that I won't fall over in a parking lot again!! :)

agedbikeman
11-07-2019, 03:45 PM
I'm 71 now but 4 years ago felt 2 wheels a passenger and lots of luggage was getting a bit too much for my knees and physical strength, saw a spyder at a local rally and thought what a good idea, saved up and bought a 2014RT, as I rode out of the dealer with it I thought, this was not made by a motorbike manufacturer, sometime later when I came to service it I was right, nothing about the build or build quality made sense, yes I agree it's fun to ride and i've put 30,000 miles on it in 3 years, but any small job I want to do on it is a real headache. my goldwing 1500 is now triked and I'm thinking why didn't I do this in the first place, while the spyder has never let me down but I find it a bit uncomfortable without an airhawk even with a comfort seat and I'm only 5ft 4in. My 24 year old goldwing makes more sense, is more comfortable even without an airhawk, doen't have the up to date entertainment system that keeps wiping my settings every time I mute the sound. Would not buy another Spyder. Even the simplest jobe like replacing a headlamp bulb is an ordeal and every part is so expensive considering how badly made it is.
Sorry BRP impressed with the idea but not impressed with the quality.

BajaRon
11-08-2019, 12:35 PM
to the spyder community. i guess i just had it with the motorcycle publications and general motorcycle 2 wheel community and their rants about profiling spyder buyers as people who cant ride a 2 wheel motorcyce, or dont have good balance on two wheels or are just intimidated just thinking about it.


I agree that the 2 wheeled community is unreasonably biased against the Spyder. It is because they want to preserve the illusion that 2 wheels are the ultimate ride and that nothing can compete or compare. They are wrong. But it is because they aren't interested in the facts. When you don't have an argument. The only thing left to you is a rant.

I purchased a Spyder back in 2007 because Lamont told me to. He was surprised because I've made a habit of NOT doing what he tells me to do. It keeps our relationship interesting! :roflblack:

When I first got my Spyder I hated it. I mean it was as bad as any purchase I have ever made. And I've made some bad ones. I was not mad at Lamont. I was mad that I'd finally taken his advise!:joke: But I was committed. 1- because I had over $15K invested. And 2, because Lamont was out riding me on his Spyder, (his delivered a month before mine did). I was trying to keep up with him, and I couldn't do it. I told him to take it easy on me! He said: 'I am taking it easy on you'! So, I had to stick with it. And I am glad I did.

I could then, and I still can ride 2 wheels. Same with Lamont. Both Lamont and I had M109R's at that time. I love riding 2 wheels! But I also love riding my Spyder. The experience is different, of course. But my Spyder is every bit as much fun to ride as my M109R. And that is saying a lot! I've had a lot of great motorcycles over the years. And my all time favorite 2 wheeler is the Suzuki M109R I now own. They are both a blast to ride! Just a different blast.

My brother, a current FJR rider, has given me a lot of grief about riding an 'Old Man's Trike' ever since I got my Spyder. He just came out to visit me in late October. I now have a Ryker and I offered to go riding with him. He on the Ryker, me on my Spyder. We took a 1 hour ride through the mountains near me here in Greeneville, TN. He was impressed and said, though he missed leaning, he really liked the Ryker.

While it is true that the Spyder offers an alternative solution to those who will not, or cannot ride 2 wheels. This is not the Spyder's only attribute. So, it is also true that the Spyder has gotten an undeserved reputation as being an old man's, woman's, fearful, person who can't ride 2 wheels anymore, alternative to the real thing. But in fact, it holds its own in the fun, excitement and enjoyment aspect with its cousins, the 2 wheeled machines. It's a shame that so many have foolishly removed themselves from the awesome possibilities of owning a Spyder.

MonPaul
11-08-2019, 09:05 PM
:congrats:
My last bike was a Honda Valkyrie and I loved it! Unfortunately back surgery slowly took the fun away for me. It was a very heavy bike and although I loved it it wasn't really safe for me to drive. After selling it I thought that was the end. As some of you can probably relate to, It got to the point where I would start hating every bike I saw after that. Of course It was jealousy, but made for some miserable summers. Saw a group of Spyders riding one day and said "I want one!" Since I have always liked riding something different (I had a Honda in Milwaukee!) and the fact that when I talked about getting one some bikers I know cut them down (even more incentive) I purchased my 2018 RTL and haven't looked back! :ohyea:

BajaRon
11-08-2019, 09:28 PM
:congrats:
My last bike was a Honda Valkyrie and I loved it! Unfortunately back surgery slowly took the fun away for me. It was a very heavy bike and although I loved it it wasn't really safe for me to drive. After selling it I thought that was the end. As some of you can probably relate to, It got to the point where I would start hating every bike I saw after that. Of course It was jealousy, but made for some miserable summers. Saw a group of Spyders riding one day and said "I want one!" Since I have always liked riding something different (I had a Honda in Milwaukee!) and the fact that when I talked about getting one some bikers I know cut them down (even more incentive) I purchased my 2018 RTL and haven't looked back! :ohyea:

Way to go! That's the way to do it!

We had a very nice couple here for some time. Their story went something like this.

They started out on a Harley and rode with a group of fellow Harley riders. They really enjoyed riding and the people in the group. But the wife never felt quite secure on the back. So they started looking around for something that suited them better and they both liked the idea of getting a Spyder. After test riding an RT, they were sure. They ended up getting an RT, and they both loved it. But there was a problem. The Harley group that they'd grown to love gave them a lot of grief about their new Spyder. Thinking the negativity would subside with time, they hung in there for awhile. But sadly, things did not improve and they finally decided to cave, sold their Spyder and purchased another Harley so they could fit in again.

It's hard for me to see a group like that as being real friends. Sure, you might rib a guy some about a new ride. But seriously folks. If you ride what you want. What is the harm in letting the next guy do the same without giving them grief about it?

I am sorry. But frankly, I just don't get it.

MonPaul
11-08-2019, 10:42 PM
Way to go! That's the way to do it!

We had a very nice couple here for some time. Their story went something like this.

They started out on a Harley and rode with a group of fellow Harley riders. They really enjoyed riding and the people in the group. But the wife never felt quite secure on the back. So they started looking around for something that suited them better and they both liked the idea of getting a Spyder. After test riding an RT, they were sure. They ended up getting an RT, and they both loved it. But there was a problem. The Harley group that they'd grown to love gave them a lot of grief about their new Spyder. Thinking the negativity would subside with time, they hung in there for awhile. But sadly, things did not improve and they finally decided to cave, sold their Spyder and purchased another Harley so they could fit in again.

It's hard for me to see a group like that as being real friends. Sure, you might rib a guy some about a new ride. But seriously folks. If you ride what you want. What is the harm in letting the next guy do the same without giving them grief about it?

I am sorry. But frankly, I just don't get it.

That is crazy! My brother had a V65 magna the same time as I did. His friends gave him a hard time too (probably because they couldn't keep up!) He is now in his 3rd Harley (still looking for a good one?) and doesn't ride any of them as much as he did his Honda. They will even go to Daytona Bike Week and have their bikes trailered there and back. I think they just go to bring back the T-shirts.:D
I feel the same way as you, I will ride with anyone, and if your friends tell you what you have to ride they are not worth it!
Friends don't let friends ride Harleys :dontknow:

cruisinTX
11-09-2019, 07:21 AM
Way to go! That's the way to do it!

We had a very nice couple here for some time. Their story went something like this.

They started out on a Harley and rode with a group of fellow Harley riders. They really enjoyed riding and the people in the group. But the wife never felt quite secure on the back. So they started looking around for something that suited them better and they both liked the idea of getting a Spyder. After test riding an RT, they were sure. They ended up getting an RT, and they both loved it. But there was a problem. The Harley group that they'd grown to love gave them a lot of grief about their new Spyder. Thinking the negativity would subside with time, they hung in there for awhile. But sadly, things did not improve and they finally decided to cave, sold their Spyder and purchased another Harley so they could fit in again.

It's hard for me to see a group like that as being real friends. Sure, you might rib a guy some about a new ride. But seriously folks. If you ride what you want. What is the harm in letting the next guy do the same without giving them grief about it?

I am sorry. But frankly, I just don't get it.

That attitude is all to common around here. I live 45 miles north of Amarillo, Tx. The HD dealership there is extremely successful and the local HOG chapter is one of the largest in the nation. Most of the HD owners around here have the attitude of, "if it's not a Harley, it's not a real bike." I've listened to that kind of stuff for a very long time here since I started riding in 1968 on Hondas. When I made the transition to BMWs, the hostility/jealousy only got worse. Now that I have the Spyder RT, it is even worse. Funny thing is that when I invite one of the naysayers to get on their real bike and try to keep up with my pretend bike, they never want to go--wonder why?

Of course there are a few HD owners who don't buy into that crap, but they are few and far between in this neck of the woods.

jbim
11-09-2019, 07:52 AM
There`s something special about bikes. The riding, the farkling, the looking at the bike while in winter storage and longing for spring. I bought my first bike after University with one of my first paycheck. A red Honda 350 or 400. The day I picked it up I had to ask the salesman to explain to me how we are supposed to ride these things. After 5 minutes in the parking lot, off I went. No clue I could kill myself on these things. Sold it a few years later and waited until my fifties to go back. I started to lurk this site after my crash in 2008 on my BMW R1200GS. Five BMW`s and 2 Honda`s later, I bought a 2018 F3L. I liked it right away, just two minutes into my demo ride. Now my wife has started to ride with me and she is enjoying it. Life is good on a Spyder.:ohyea:

Be safe

J

BajaRon
11-09-2019, 09:59 AM
That attitude is all to common around here. I live 45 miles north of Amarillo, Tx. The HD dealership there is extremely successful and the local HOG chapter is one of the largest in the nation. Most of the HD owners around here have the attitude of, "if it's not a Harley, it's not a real bike." I've listened to that kind of stuff for a very long time here since I started riding in 1968 on Hondas. When I made the transition to BMWs, the hostility/jealousy only got worse. Now that I have the Spyder RT, it is even worse. Funny thing is that when I invite one of the naysayers to get on their real bike and try to keep up with my pretend bike, they never want to go--wonder why?

Of course there are a few HD owners who don't buy into that crap, but they are few and far between in this neck of the woods.

Not all Harley riders are so biased, of course. Some are quite accepting of anyone who rides anything. But it seems for many, that something happens to them when they swing their leg over a Hog. Somehow, their entire attitude changes at that moment. They won't wave, they won't even look. I know it bothers some. But I don't let their negativity drag me down. I love riding and I'm not going to give another rider the power to damage my enjoyment.

I always wave. If they don't wave back I figure it's their problem. Not mine. I smile and ride on. Besides, maybe they were clutching, had their eye on something else, who knows. I've not waved for those reasons myself. But never to dis the other rider.

I am not quite sure what causes some to turn into haters. And it's not only Harley owners. Some high end riders (BMW, Ducati) and sport bike riders have this same problem. It doesn't have to be that way and I do what I can to be friendly. I'm more interested in finding people who share my riding style than what they ride.

Bangorbob
11-09-2019, 10:20 AM
I bought my spyder to start the transition from 2 wheels. Knees, hips, ankles, etc just ain't what they used to be. The "wave" was mentioned a couple times. Interesting that when I drive my Star 1300 I get about 95% people wave back. Road the spyder the other day. You guessed it, about 20% waved back. I honestly don't care what anyone rides. I still wave and agree with Ron. Ride safe all!

PS. The more I ride the RT the more I like it.

troop
11-09-2019, 11:45 AM
I'm a healthy 62 year old rider, who has been riding since age 12. In my riding time, I have owned 25+ motorcycles. My first experience with Spyders was when I sold motorcycles at a multi line dealership after retiring from my career job. I had fun riding the RT Spyders, but they just weren't my style. The F3 line came out just as I quit the selling gig. Fast forward to this year, and I got a bug to look into the F3 line closer. At that time I owned a 2016 Triumph 800 Tiger XCx and a 2009 H-D FLHT, both bought new. I knew I wanted the F3-S. After getting a nice trade quote for my Tiger, I pulled the trigger on my F3-S. It was going to be my play toy. Then I bought Shad luggage and a Madstad windshield kit (20" light gray/14" dark gray), and it now has become my day in/day out rider. This thing is a hoot ! A couple of riding buddies have ridden it, and they see what I see in it. I'll be adding a Dynojet PV3 over the winter, along with my already drilled/K&N air box mod and cat delete pipe to boost my oomph. I also have bought an upgraded swaybar to add over the winter. A buddy/I went down to the Ozarks the first week in October and it was a blast !! My buddy thoroughly enjoyed it on a brisk ride thru some twisties. Gonna be taking it to the Rockies in June and Sturgis in August next year. The H-D won't be neglected, but it won't get as much attention as it used to :( :)

MonPaul
11-09-2019, 12:14 PM
Not all Harley riders are so biased, of course. Some are quite accepting of anyone who rides anything. But it seems for many, that something happens to them when they swing their leg over a Hog. Somehow, their entire attitude changes at that moment. They won't wave, they won't even look. I know it bothers some. But I don't let their negativity drag me down. I love riding and I'm not going to give another rider the power to damage my enjoyment.

I always wave. If they don't wave back I figure it's their problem. Not mine. I smile and ride on. Besides, maybe they were clutching, had their eye on something else, who knows. I've not waved for those reasons myself. But never to dis the other rider.

I am not quite sure what causes some to turn into haters. And it's not only Harley owners. Some high end riders (BMW, Ducati) and sport bike riders have this same problem. It doesn't have to be that way and I do what I can to be friendly. I'm more interested in finding people who share my riding style than what they ride.

I always think about how many people are riding bikes they didn't even want (or couldn't afford) just to try to fit in? Peer pressure is tough :roflblack:

reader47
11-09-2019, 12:43 PM
Been riding two wheels my whole life (just hit 70 years young). Have had many bikes the favorite was the Valkyrie. We rode that together many times especially for our "burger dates". But it was getting too heavy and I wasn't comfortable two up. It was replaced with two bikes progressively smaller (the last being a Vulcan single seat). But - even by myself my lack of stability was becoming more evident. Wanting to continue riding - don't recall how I came across the Spyder. Did a lot of research, a lot of reading here and discussed the purchase with my wife - closest friend and confidant. She thought some and concluded "we can go on burger dates with it". End of story. And I love the Spyder.

Roger - ride safe.

vondalyn
11-11-2019, 10:32 AM
Been riding two wheels my whole life (just hit 70 years young). Have had many bikes the favorite was the Valkyrie. We rode that together many times especially for our "burger dates". But it was getting too heavy and I wasn't comfortable two up. It was replaced with two bikes progressively smaller (the last being a Vulcan single seat). But - even by myself my lack of stability was becoming more evident. Wanting to continue riding - don't recall how I came across the Spyder. Did a lot of research, a lot of reading here and discussed the purchase with my wife - closest friend and confidant. She thought some and concluded "we can go on burger dates with it". End of story. And I love the Spyder.

Roger - ride safe.

Burger dates are the best! So are pie dates!

ozarkryder
11-11-2019, 02:49 PM
Been riding something with less than 4 wheels and an engine since a Sears & Roebuck mini-bike in 1967. Got married in 1992, she liked to ride but due to an auto accident her back didn't take well to leaning over, so we picked up a Trike Shop (now RoadSmith) Runabout, a VW based trike she had for 10 years. We sold that when we decided to seriously tour, and got a Gold Wing GL1500 trike, then upgraded to an 1800. Things change, as things do, and 700 mile days gave way to a 43' toyhauler and riding when we got there, not just to there. During all this I still rode my 1990 Harley FLHS, aquired a 2013 Triumph Bonneville, and she had a longing for the old VW trike, so we got a Trike Shop Roadhawk. She had an auto transmission in the VW trikes, and was never comfortable piloting the Gold Wings where she had to use both hands and both feet and all the other controls, and she really didn't like the Roadhawk as it was longer and handled very differently than she remembered the Runabout.

Come the New Hampton Motorcycle Rally (Formerly the Davis Rally - it is now run by the local Boy Scouts.) she took a Spyder for a ride, and with the SE6 transmission and one brake pedal, the die was cast. We picked up a 2018 RTL in November of 2018. We have been downsizing, sold the Roadhawk, then the Harley and the Goldwing. We are down to the Bonneville and the Spyder.

I have gotten the "That's not a motorcycle." about the trikes since our first VW 3-wheeler. I just smile and say, "Nope, it's not. It's a trike. But my knees are in the same breeze as yours are." With the Spyder it is often noted, usually a bit sarcastically, that it looks like a snowmobile. I'll reply, "Well, it is made by Bombardier, and they make Ski-Doo sleds, so I guess this is a Landmobile. They're both fun, let's go ride!"

Bob204bc
11-12-2019, 10:41 AM
I have been riding motorcycles for 48 years now. I have owned every Japanese brand, BMW's, Triumphs, Harleys and a Victory. I do not now nor have I ever felt the need to identify with a brand (nor wear a Pirate suit).

My wife and I have traveled all over the country and a few years ago started to pull a trailer to increase our comfort on the road. We started with a cargo trailer and then moved to a small Camper trailer. My last tow vehicle was a Victory Cross Roads which carried the two of us and the trailer just fine but I found that traffic tie ups and dirt roads were beginning to tax me when fully loaded. Consequently, after some research, we bought a leftover 2018 F3L SE6 last February. It was a learning experience for me to shed the two wheel muscle memory but I will have to say that I am so much more at ease in all conditions on this beast. I have covered several states this summer and look forward to many more miles of travel, sightseeing, rallies and camping. It was an excellent choice. In fact, my wife liked it so much she bought a Ryker 600 and just loves it. I seldom have the pleasure of riding two up anymore.

I sold the Victory but bought a used BMW R1100R to stay with two wheels as the mood strikes. I have the best of both worlds.