2014 RT Limited Questions

[petew]

Greetings all , I just purchased a 2014 Spyder RT Limited and wanted to add a couple of accessories .

I want a GPS and I want to be able to listen to Pandora via my Iphone (Bluetooth) but through the Spyders speakers .

Looks like I need a Garmin Zumo 590GPS part # 219400512
A GPS mount kit for stock handlebars part # 219400615
A Bluetooth Dongle part # 219400458
And I guess a Ram cell phone mount

Anything else needed to accomplish my goal ?

Thanks in advance, Pete

[JayBros]

The '14 Ltd came with a Garmin 660, where'd it go? You will like the 590/595 though; it's a newer model.

Get yourself a Kradellock for the GPS and relieve yourself of the hassle of removing the GPS every time you leave the bike -- that is unless you like to live dangerously. https://robertbeckerdesign.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fkradellock-659

You can get the Sena SM10 and harness from Motorcycle Dave at substantially lower cost

[petew]

Very interesting. Just made the agreement to purchase yesterday so I have not gotten the bike home nor have I seen it in person.

Just texted the current owner, he says the gps mount is there , hopefully he can locate the head unit.

Thanks for the info .

[ARtraveler]

Nothing I can add except :welcome: and :congrats:

[MRH]

I went through trying to figure out a lot of this when I got my first Spyder, and ended up using helmet bluetooth speakers and my iPhone for GPS and audio.

[JayBros]

To make sure we are on the same sheet of music, the GPS mount is the part that bolts to the handlebars. The GPS cradle is the part the GPS snaps into and has an integral wire harness that connects to the Spyders wiring harness. The GPS cradle is bolted to the GPS mount. FWIW, the cradles for the Zumo 660 and 590/595 are different and not compatible.

[petew]

To make sure we are on the same sheet of music, the GPS mount is the part that bolts to the handlebars. The GPS cradle is the part the GPS snaps into and has an integral wire harness that connects to the Spyders wiring harness. The GPS cradle is bolted to the GPS mount. FWIW, the cradles for the Zumo 660 and 590/595 are different and not compatible.

Yeah , I get it. Appears that the current owner has "misplaced" the Zumo head unit that snaps into the aforementioned mount and cradle.

It also appears that there are still some 660's available out there on ebay and such. Hopefully he will find it or else we will have to make some adjustments.

If I replaced it with a 590 the mount and cradle would need to be replaced ? What about the harness , would the one from the 660 work ?

[JayBros]

...If I replaced it with a 590 the mount and cradle would need to be replaced ? What about the harness , would the one from the 660 work ?

If you purchase a 590/595 it will come with its own cradle. The cradles for the 660 and 590/595 are different and the 660 cradle will not work with the 590/595. The configuration of the pin connections on the two GPSs are different. FWIW, when I purchased my '14 RT-S in Sept '14 the standard Zumo was the 660 and dealership did not know what the GPS for MY 2015 was going to be. At my son's advice I opted for the Zumo 590 as the 660 had been around a long time by then. The 590 was the GPS for MY 2015. I like the 590 very much and it has been very reliable.

[petew]

Ok picked up my Spyder from Georgia a couple of days ago . Having been a motorcycle rider for 40 years the transition to this was simple and I love it.

The 660 Zumo GPS that came stock on the bike was not found so I am moving forward with plans to replace it with a Zumo 590 . The factory 660 mount , cradle , cover , and wiring are on the bike. So if I replace the 660 cradle with a 590 cradle will the existing harness from the 660 work or will that need to be replaced too ?

I am going to call Motorcycle Dave about the Sena SM10 on Monday.

MRH thanks for your input but I was this all to work on the Spyders audio system.

[JayBros]

The 590 cradle will come with its own cradle and harness. Under the Tupperware somewhere the old 660 harness will unplug and the 590 harness will plug into the same connectors. I do not know exactly where because the dealership hooked up mine.

[petew]

Good deal , thanks

[UtahPete]

Yeah , I get it. Appears that the current owner has "misplaced" the Zumo head unit that snaps into the aforementioned mount and cradle.

Suspicious. Would not trust this seller.

[happyspyder2039]

Just because you misplace something doesn’t make you a bad person

[petew]

The sellers only problem is that the Spyder was a toy that he didn’t pay much attention to .
He owned it over 5 years and only put 500 miles on it. On top of that I got a great deal on what is essentially a new bike.

I have no complaints and chose to not make the missing gps an issue. I got a real value here even minus the gps.

After 33 years as a law enforcement officer I’m a pretty good judge of character and the seller was ok. If I had the garage full of vehicles and huge house that he had I might have misplaced the gps as well.

[jaherbst]

Get a 665. It will eliminate the Dongle and you can listen to XM without it. The 660 is not capable of XM with out the Dongle.

Jack

[Wahrsuul]

I had the same issue - the PO didn't pass the GPS along when he traded in the tryke. So I have a cradle (don't know for what model GPS) and mount on the handlebars. Also there's a cable undr the side cover that seems to be part of it - it has a plug labeled "helmet" on it. Not sure what that it or what its for. The mount is coming off as I don't intend to use it, but I need to get new bolts for the handlebars first. Already removed the XM and Sena SM10H.

[petew]

Alright I think I have the necessary parts coming for the GPS swap , now onto the music portion of our show !

I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to electronics so I am having a problem understanding exactly what I need to buy to accomplish my goal , or if my goal can even be accomplished.

As stated earlier I want to be able to play Pandora from my iphone through the Spyders speakers , Not through a bluetooth helmet headset or earbuds .

It seems like the Sema SM-10 is not designed to do this , that's what I gathered from the youtube videos I have watched. Now I know there is a jack in the trunk to connect an Ipod but the end doesn't conform with the iphone.
So the question is does a method exist to wire the phone into the existing stereo system ?

I only want to hear Pandora , no phone calls or anything else . I don't need or want a helmet communication system .

Any spoon feeding that can be provided on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

Pete

[al0vely]

Alright I think I have the necessary parts coming for the GPS swap , now onto the music portion of our show !

I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to electronics so I am having a problem understanding exactly what I need to buy to accomplish my goal , or if my goal can even be accomplished.

As stated earlier I want to be able to play Pandora from my iphone through the Spyders speakers , Not through a bluetooth helmet headset or earbuds .

It seems like the Sema SM-10 is not designed to do this , that's what I gathered from the youtube videos I have watched. Now I know there is a jack in the trunk to connect an Ipod but the end doesn't conform with the iphone.
So the question is does a method exist to wire the phone into the existing stereo system ?

I only want to hear Pandora , no phone calls or anything else . I don't need or want a helmet communication system .

Any spoon feeding that can be provided on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

Pete

Get a bluetooth transmitter from eBay, Amazon, or somewhere else. You can stick the transmitter in the rear trunk and keep it charged up.

If you didn't accessory get the cable from the original owner then you will need it also. The picture shows my setup - dual port USB adapter plugged into the power adapter, BT device plugged into power and the accessory cable which makes it play thru your speakers.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-V4-Transmitter-Receiver-Wireless-A2DP-Audio-3-5mm-Aux-Adapter-Hub-A6/323890912338?hash=item4b69671c52:g:XoYAAOSwOHpcRn2 N

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-Stereo-Jack-to-7-Pin-DIN-Cable-for-SM10-Dual-Stream-Trans-SENA-SC-A0123/322983127663?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-Dual-3-1A-USB-Car-Charger-2-Port-Adapter-LED-Cigarette-Socket-Fast-Charging/233290065333?hash=item36512be5b5:m:mAOnNUd30LPki3r dtdySk6A


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[petew]

Now that sir was some good spoon feeding ! Thank you very much.
I do have the accessory cable .

That looks like a very simple and inexpensive way to attain my goal .

Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[stu]

theres a guy on ozspyderiders call merlot thats selling a zumo and cradle,not sure of the model though.hes on here too i believe

[Peter Aawen]

theres a guy on ozspyderiders call merlot thats selling a zumo and cradle,not sure of the model though.hes on here too i believe

For anyone interested, Merlot's now got a thread posted in the 'For sale by Owners' section offering his Zumo (590 LM?) for sale with all the necessary bits for mounting on an RT....

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?125268-ZUMO-590-LM-OEM-Mount-for-RT

Over to you! :thumbup:

[stu]

thanks peter for clarifying that model number up.and the link post

[Wahrsuul]

That's pretty much what I ran into with the Sena on my tryke - it's for hooking the output of the stereo/xm/gps into your BT headsets, not for hooking a BT player and running it through the built in stereo. Now I just use the Cardo BT setup and don't use the speakers anyway.

[PaladinLV]

Forget the BRP dongle.
IF your main objective is Pandora through the iPhone go with this and save a bundle of $$$
LinK BT06 Car Wireless Bluetooth V4.1 Audio Receiver Music Adapter with Hands - free Calls / 3.5mm Stereo Output
https://www.amazon.com/MITUHAKI-Wireless-Bluetooth-Audio-Receiver/dp/B07WFQ1S9Y/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?keywords=LinK+BT06+Car+Wireless+B luetooth+V4.1+Audio+Receiver+Music+Adapter+with+Ha nds+-+free+Calls+%2F+3.5mm+Stereo+Output&qid=1566918562&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr2

AJ

[petew]

Get a bluetooth transmitter from eBay, Amazon, or somewhere else. You can stick the transmitter in the rear trunk and keep it charged up.

If you didn't accessory get the cable from the original owner then you will need it also. The picture shows my setup - dual port USB adapter plugged into the power adapter, BT device plugged into power and the accessory cable which makes it play thru your speakers.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-V4-Transmitter-Receiver-Wireless-A2DP-Audio-3-5mm-Aux-Adapter-Hub-A6/323890912338?hash=item4b69671c52:g:XoYAAOSwOHpcRn2 N

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-Stereo-Jack-to-7-Pin-DIN-Cable-for-SM10-Dual-Stream-Trans-SENA-SC-A0123/322983127663?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-Dual-3-1A-USB-Car-Charger-2-Port-Adapter-LED-Cigarette-Socket-Fast-Charging/233290065333?hash=item36512be5b5:m:mAOnNUd30LPki3r dtdySk6A


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Well sir that worked as advertised !
Got about $12.00 worth of electronics from eBay ,hooked it all up as per your pictures and I now have Pandora playing through my Spyders speakers .

Thank you very much !

Pete

[pegasus1300]

If all you want is Pandora on your iPhone thru your speakers, all you need is the accessory cord from BRP and that should have come with your Spyder. If it doesn't fit your phone then you have new cord type and you will need and adapter to that but that should solve your problem without spending a bunch of money.

[petew]

Got the Bluetooth working the other day so today I installed my Zumo 590LM.

Since the original Zumo 660 that came with the bike new was missing I decided to upgrade to a 590LM.
I found a refurbished unit on eBay for $440.00 and then went looking for a mount and harness.
Searching around the internet I found the average price for the kit was around $189.00 to $208.00
Plugged the part number into google and one popped up on amazon for $99.00 .

Since returns are easy on amazon I ordered it figuring if it wasn’t correct or was missing parts I’d just send it back. It came yesterday and to my surprise it was a complete kit.

So today I set out to remove the 660 mount and harness to replace it with the 590 mount and harness.
I posted a picture that really needs to be rotated but I couldn’t figure out how to accomplish that.

I don’t want to say it was a nightmare but the 660 harness was factory installed and the routing made it a challenge to remove intact.
The hole in the handlebar mount is just large enough to pass the connectors through and access is tight.
Of course then I got to put the new harness back through the same hole . Not fun but doable.

It’s all back together and functioning properly, hate to see what the dealer would have charged for that job.

Next project is a accessory backrest for the seat. I am told Utopia is the place to shop for that.