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KC61
05-19-2019, 09:43 AM
Someone posted on another forum about a 2 1/2" SAE Socket fit perfect on the Rally Wheel Nut. I picked one up at Northern Tool yesterday for $22 as well as the 3/4" to 1/2" adapter. I will report back on the fit when I pick up my Rally Friday. The socket is chrome and is made very well. We will see.

Nico75
05-23-2019, 08:46 AM
Hi kc61 ref wheel socket I found the BRP socket is the only one that fits BRP designed the wheel nut so that only theirs will fit correctly. In UK it cast me around £160 WOW. Good luck Nico 75

poli
05-23-2019, 09:35 AM
Hi kc61 ref wheel socket I found the BRP socket is the only one that fits BRP designed the wheel nut so that only theirs will fit correctly. In UK it cast me around £160 WOW. Good luck Nico 75

I put a plastic bag on the nut and it makes the socket a snug fit and also protects the nut. I bought a cheap 65mm for $28 with shipping, and have used it several times and works perfectly. Funny thing, is I bought it on Ebay from a place in England!

jcthorne
05-23-2019, 02:06 PM
The nut is standard 12 point 65mm.

KyBill
05-23-2019, 02:08 PM
If 65mm is proper size , 2 1/2” is 63.5 mm so would be too small.

KC61
05-23-2019, 02:11 PM
I think 62mm is proper size, 2 1/2” is 63.5 mm so slightly oversize, hence the plastic bag.

Actually it calls for a 65 mm which equals 2.55906 inches

KyBill
05-23-2019, 02:12 PM
Actually it calls for a 65 mm which equals 2.55906 inches


Yes, edited my post, but then 2.5” is too small.

KC61
05-23-2019, 02:14 PM
Yes, edited my post, but then 2.5” is too small.

No, it's a little too big

jcthorne
05-23-2019, 02:31 PM
Most sockets that large have some slop. At least some 2.5 sockets are known to fit. YMMV.

KC61
05-25-2019, 09:12 PM
FYI, tried the 2 1/2" SAE today and it fits perfect for $22 at Northern Tool

AndrewJELLIOTTJr
05-29-2019, 08:52 AM
Someone posted on another forum about a 2 1/2" SAE Socket fit perfect on the Rally Wheel Nut. I picked one up at Northern Tool yesterday for $22 as well as the 3/4" to 1/2" adapter. I will report back on the fit when I pick up my Rally Friday. The socket is chrome and is made very well. We will see.

So I read this thread, I came away with me scratching my head. 1st, I have used bikes, trikes, mopeds, and motorcycles, and never had a serious flat tire issue. Saying that I always had a plan to be able to change a flat tire. I can't phantom why BRP, would expect their riders to be stranded on the side of the road without a way to immediately change out a flat tire, anywhere or anytime. If You will need a BRP socket #529036457, and a torque wrench that goes to 300 nm (221 #lbs). Plus a large external snap ring plyers. These need to be purchased or supplied! Keep in mind as of lately there has been issues that wheels have been falling off Rykers! So don't forget to use strong zip tie straps on those external snap rings that supposedly secure the tires. This is my first post on this forum, so please be kind, if I am wrong please help me understand this issue better. Even since The Can-Am Spyder came out I have followed them, never been able to afford one, I am praying that I can get a new Ryker. Please wish me luck and hope fate is on my side :-) Oh btw why is the Ryker called a "RYKER", what is the story behind the name?? ~Andy :bowdown:

Tslepebull
05-29-2019, 09:59 AM
So I read this thread, I came away with me scratching my head. 1st, I have used bikes, trikes, mopeds, and motorcycles, and never had a serious flat tire issue. Saying that I always had a plan to be able to change a flat tire. I can't phantom why BRP, would expect their riders to be stranded on the side of the road without a way to immediately change out a flat tire, anywhere or anytime. If You will need a BRP socket #529036457, and a torque wrench that goes to 300 nm (221 #lbs). Plus a large external snap ring plyers. These need to be purchased or supplied! Keep in mind as of lately there has been issues that wheels have been falling off Rykers! So don't forget to use strong zip tie straps on those external snap rings that supposedly secure the tires. This is my first post on this forum, so please be kind, if I am wrong please help me understand this issue better. Even since The Can-Am Spyder came out I have followed them, never been able to afford one, I am praying that I can get a new Ryker. Please wish me luck and hope fate is on my side :-) Oh btw why is the Ryker called a "RYKER", what is the story behind the name?? ~Andy :bowdown:

Snap ring pliers are not necessary to remove the keeper ring. Just grab the end with the loop and lift it up and off the hub with your hand. I did mine yesterday and with my bad wrist if I can do it anyone can. Replacement is the reverse of removal

KC61
05-29-2019, 11:50 AM
So I read this thread, I came away with me scratching my head. 1st, I have used bikes, trikes, mopeds, and motorcycles, and never had a serious flat tire issue. Saying that I always had a plan to be able to change a flat tire. I can't phantom why BRP, would expect their riders to be stranded on the side of the road without a way to immediately change out a flat tire, anywhere or anytime. If You will need a BRP socket #529036457, and a torque wrench that goes to 300 nm (221 #lbs). Plus a large external snap ring plyers. These need to be purchased or supplied! Keep in mind as of lately there has been issues that wheels have been falling off Rykers! So don't forget to use strong zip tie straps on those external snap rings that supposedly secure the tires. This is my first post on this forum, so please be kind, if I am wrong please help me understand this issue better. Even since The Can-Am Spyder came out I have followed them, never been able to afford one, I am praying that I can get a new Ryker. Please wish me luck and hope fate is on my side :-) Oh btw why is the Ryker called a "RYKER", what is the story behind the name?? ~Andy :bowdown:

Stay in your lane Bro. Not sure why CanAm doesn't supply the $160 socket with the bike. But we found a great alternative for $22. But if you have a flat out in the middle of no where you better have this socket with you because no one else will. No need for snap ring pliers to remove the keeper, it will pop right off with a screw driver. When you get your Ryker it will all make sense.

BajaRon
05-29-2019, 12:38 PM
This whole 'Ryker Wheel Falling Off' is a tempest in a teapot. People speaking about subjects for which the have little understanding. You can zip tie your snap rings. But it is far from necessary. Might make you feel better. But that is about as far as it will go.

Flats, however, are a worthy subject. Not common. But I've had them on 2 wheels. I think less likely on 3. Especially if you run car tires. Having the socket is probably not a bad idea. But you're still going to need to come up with torque wrench that will go to 250 lb ft or better. I run Ride-On. Mostly for balance. But just another Ace in the Hole for potential flats.

KC61
05-29-2019, 12:41 PM
Most tire shops will have the torque wrench but I can just about guarantee they won't have the socket. So I will be carrying the socket and 3/4" to 1/2" adapter and all should be good. Now, if the tire is beyond repair then that is another issue since these tires are such an odd size. The other option is to get Roadside Assistance which the Ryker comes with standard for 1 year.

Tslepebull
05-29-2019, 05:06 PM
I had the chance to try the 65mm Hub-Nut socket (from Ebay) and the 2-1/2 inch SAE from Northern Tools side by side on my Rally today. The 65 mm is conventional 12 point flat drive and the 2-1/2 inch NT socket is 12 point surface drive (rounded flutes). The NT 2-1/2 inch socket is a much better fit with no slop at all. The 65mm socket would require the plastic bag spacer to take up the extra space.


My research (the internet wouldn't lie) indicates that surface drive is designed to put the stress on the flats of the nut rather than the corners and reduces potential damage to the nut; an advantage at 221 +/- 11 ft/lb of torque. Both would work but the NT socket is cheaper ($22) vs about $28 with shipping for the Ebay model. I will be selling the 65mm socket if anybody wants it; make an offer.

KyBill
05-29-2019, 06:01 PM
So I read this thread, I came away with me scratching my head. 1st, I have used bikes, trikes, mopeds, and motorcycles, and never had a serious flat tire issue. Saying that I always had a plan to be able to change a flat tire. I can't phantom why BRP, would expect their riders to be stranded on the side of the road without a way to immediately change out a flat tire, anywhere or anytime. If You will need a BRP socket #529036457, and a torque wrench that goes to 300 nm (221 #lbs). Plus a large external snap ring plyers. These need to be purchased or supplied! Keep in mind as of lately there has been issues that wheels have been falling off Rykers! So don't forget to use strong zip tie straps on those external snap rings that supposedly secure the tires. This is my first post on this forum, so please be kind, if I am wrong please help me understand this issue better. Even since The Can-Am Spyder came out I have followed them, never been able to afford one, I am praying that I can get a new Ryker. Please wish me luck and hope fate is on my side :-) Oh btw why is the Ryker called a "RYKER", what is the story behind the name?? ~Andy :bowdown:

The youtube hero was more than a few drinks into his cup when he started his mini series, but another member of this forum recently posted that his own lug nut was improperly secured so I don’t think we can dismiss the possibility of problems, but we can avoid issues with some due diligence.

I ordered the 65 mm 12 pt socket on ebay. The total cost delivered to my home from the U.K. Was around $46. That socket, a tire plug kit and either canned air or very small inflator pump will go in my trunk with vice grips and some duct tape. Mainly because vice grips and duct tape have bailed me out a few times in 38 years of riding.

Torque wrench? That is for service in the shop. I’ve removed wheels and all sorts of things over the years using an improvised torque spec of “pretty damn tight”. I never even owned a torque wrench until 3-4 years ago but my Harley hasn’t rattled itself apart. i agree with torquing the nut to spec as part of a permanent repair but I’m guessing the clip ring makes a bigger difference than the exact torque spec for emergency roadside field repairs.

Roadside assistance has left some people waiting roadside 5 plus hours and a few hundred in unreimbursed towing, probably geography based so plan accordingly. I have waited as much as 2 1/2 hours for AAA to show up for a car tow, on the outskirts of Lexington, Ky (Ky second largest city). Good to have the service but it is what it is.

Smokey618
05-29-2019, 09:59 PM
I bought the 2 1/2' socket. Seams to fit OK.

oregoncoast
05-30-2019, 09:12 PM
FYI, tried the 2 1/2" SAE today and it fits perfect for $22 at Northern Tool

Thanks for the info, I going to buy a socket and 3/4 torque wrench, not only for possibly flats but tires should be rotated for best wear. I like having the right tools for the job.

OregonLAN
05-30-2019, 09:22 PM
I ordered one yesterday. They also sell a mini torque multiplier that would be nice to have and make it easier to remove.

Jsmith8695
05-30-2019, 10:57 PM
I ordered mine this morning. Any suggestions on a torque wrench?

KC61
05-31-2019, 07:35 AM
I ordered mine this morning. Any suggestions on a torque wrench?

I have a Craftsman with the digital read out. I like it a lot. Here's a link

https://www.sears.com/craftsman-1-2-in-dr-digi-click-torque-wrench/p-00913919000P

gkamer
05-31-2019, 02:02 PM
Keep in mind as of lately there has been issues that wheels have been falling off Rykers!

You make it sound as if it's an epidemic. I only know of one guy who claimed it happened. Since the Ryker does not come off the assembly line with the wheels attached, I'd have to lay blame with the dealership for failing to follow BRP's specifications for installing the wheels.

oregoncoast
06-01-2019, 07:58 PM
I ordered mine this morning. Any suggestions on a torque wrench?

I ordered this one on ebay.https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-4-DR-MICROMETER-ADJUSTABLE-TORQUE-WRENCH-CLICK-50-300-FT-LB/220977289400?hash=item337345d8b8:g:bdoAAOSw5xhcUNZ a
Seems like I saw a better price a few weeks ago, but still not to bad.

IdahoMtnSpyder
06-02-2019, 08:23 AM
I ordered this one on ebay.https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-4-DR-MICROMETER-ADJUSTABLE-TORQUE-WRENCH-CLICK-50-300-FT-LB/220977289400?hash=item337345d8b8:g:bdoAAOSw5xhcUNZ a
Seems like I saw a better price a few weeks ago, but still not to bad.

Let us know how it works for you. It looks to me like it's kind of short. Can you pull 150 lbs? If the handle is only 18" long you have to pull about 150# on the handle to reach 220 lb-ft torque. That's why I suggested in another thread to get the torque multiplier from Northern Tool and use a 1/2" drive torque wrench. Lot less pull required.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200712282_200712282

Madison Sully
06-02-2019, 09:30 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Baosity-Square-Impact-Socket-Wrench/dp/B07GKNSBNY/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=65mm+socket&qid=1559485756&s=gateway&sr=8-6

Zoot
06-02-2019, 12:28 PM
<snip> Oh btw why is the Ryker called a "RYKER", what is the story behind the name?? ~Andy :bowdown:
Because TRYKER was stupid? :joke:

oregoncoast
06-02-2019, 09:10 PM
Let us know how it works for you. It looks to me like it's kind of short. Can you pull 150 lbs? If the handle is only 18" long you have to pull about 150# on the handle to reach 220 lb-ft torque. That's why I suggested in another thread to get the torque multiplier from Northern Tool and use a 1/2" drive torque wrench. Lot less pull required.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200712282_200712282

I'm unsure of the length but it is supposed to torque up to 300lbs.I have no trouble with 110 lug nuts and a shorter 1/2 torque but I guess I will find out. I will post the length when I get it.

oregoncoast
06-05-2019, 03:38 PM
The torque wrench came today, it's huge 24 1/2 /" and heavy. I have no doubt it will do the job. I t also came with a plastic case. The company I bought the socket from is slow to ship. I want to pull the wheels to clean them and put a protective finish on the wheels. Living 200 ft from the ocean is hard on stuff.

FBRKR
06-12-2019, 11:43 PM
I just ordered this one: https://www.racingpowersports.com/racingpowersports-can-am-ryker-600-900-rally-wheel-nut-removal-tool-529036457.html

old Timer
06-13-2019, 04:52 AM
I just ordered this one: https://www.racingpowersports.com/racingpowersports-can-am-ryker-600-900-rally-wheel-nut-removal-tool-529036457.html

Looks good, and even better yet, made in the USA and even a Dynamite added bonus..........Made in Texas. :thumbup:

Tslepebull
06-13-2019, 10:26 AM
Furthermore, it looks like it is 1/2 inch drive. It would be more likely for a random tire shop on the road to have 1/2 inch rather than 3/4 inch drive tools.

FBRKR
06-13-2019, 12:31 PM
Yes it's really well made, 1/2"

Highwayman2013
08-02-2019, 10:37 PM
FYI, tried the 2 1/2" SAE today and it fits perfect for $22 at Northern Tool

I got the 2 1/2 from northern tool. Fits very tight on 2 out of 3 nuts. Had to use a rubber mallet to get it on all the way.

KC61
08-02-2019, 10:57 PM
That would make me think the nuts arent consistent in size. Mine fits perfect on all 3

chris56
08-03-2019, 02:48 AM
I had a flat tire on the front - the only roblem in the last 6.500 miles !
I was happy that my neighbor could repair it in 10 minutes ..but - what helps the right tools if you don`t find a new tire ?!?
Not a good feeling if you are on tour all over europe (what we do) - the only chance is to take one of the small spare-tires of VW or so.. crazy Idea of BRP !!

but the 65mm nut they use is a standard here in Europe - you could Google "Fiat Iveco 65mm Nuss" - or "Ford Transit 65 mm nuss".. most of these dealers should have the tools in stock ..

Gwolf
08-03-2019, 06:18 AM
Most any one inch drive socket set will go from about inch and a half up to over 3 inches on the sockets. Any tire place that works on tractor tires or heavy equipment tires should have the 1 inch drive socket set. I bought the set to work on my tractor. Plenty of service trucks that specialize in tractor and heavy equipment tires will have those tools with them on the truck. They are not hard to find nor rare. You just have to look in the right place. You probably will not find them in a tire store that just does little passenger car and pickup tires, but a place that does commercial truck, tractor, and heavy equipment tires would have that. Almost any tractor dealer will have those tools in their shop.

Being prepared and having the correct socket with you is probably the best way to be sure you can get one, but those are common tools used on tractors and heavy equipment. Might be something to remember if you get caught away from home and need one.

MDLNB
08-03-2019, 08:15 AM
I ordered the 2 1/2inch socket from amazon, but I have yet to choose a torque wrench. Two things I am considering. First, the size of the wrench and how I plan to carry it with me on the bike. If not, then having one in my garage to work on the bike is fine. Second, the price. If I am going to put over a hundred bucks in socket and wrench, then why not pay someone else to work on it? Unless I plan to remove the wheel more than once or twice, of course. Things to consider. I plan to have the socket with me in case I have a flat. I will also have a plug kit, in case I can repair the flat myself so as NOT to stay stuck on the side of the road too long. I am not sure if I will purchase a torque wrench, but I am going to start looking at them at flea markets. If I can get a decent deal, I will buy one. If not, I will borrow one from a neighbor when I decide to take the wheels off in my garage. I will need one shortly, as I ordered a new rear fender to install on my Rally. It is a full fender because I do not like the muddy water the rear tire throws up on the back of the seat and legs. These are just my thoughts, and I am not trying to convince anyone of making any decisions. I may change my mind at any given moment, so that is why I read everyone else's opinions and experiences.

Just received my socket delivery today. Wow, didn't realize until I actually held it just how heavy and large it is. Now to find a torque wrench. I have to take off the rear wheel when I replace the Rally fender with the 900 ACE fender that I ordered.