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Bart
02-23-2019, 09:24 PM
I always find it interesting when there are brackets, but nothing in them. Any clue what could go in here? This is under the left cover next to the trunk release. :dontknow:

UtahPete
02-23-2019, 09:26 PM
I always say find it interesting when there are brackets, but nothing in them. Any clue what could go in here? This is under the left cover next to the trunk. :dontknow:

Can't really tell from the photo. Not sure what you mean by left cover next to trunk...

canamjhb
02-23-2019, 09:54 PM
Can't really tell from the photo. Not sure what you mean by left cover next to trunk...

I agree. Can't tell what area you are looking at and what bracket you are referring to..... ???

Bart
02-23-2019, 10:04 PM
If you are facing the trunk, they are to the right. The cable in the picture is the release cable. I can try and take a better picture tomorrow.

UtahPete
02-24-2019, 12:17 AM
I always find it interesting when there are brackets, but nothing in them. Any clue what could go in here? This is under the left cover next to the trunk release. :dontknow:

That's the frunk, not the trunk...

I don't know the answer, but someone else will now we know you're talking about the front compartment (frunk)

Bart
02-24-2019, 12:22 AM
Dang auto correct. I type frunk, but obviously I've missed it twice now. Sorry.

youngers
02-24-2019, 06:16 AM
if I might throw a guess out , could this be the attachment area for the screen looking thing that is at the lower location of the oil tank/ add area , of the r-t `s ? ( that or this is part of the engine harness , for techs to put engine in and out , or handle it while in service ? )

youngers
02-24-2019, 06:18 AM
you have 2 brackets in that area , mmmmmmmmmm wondering if there is something that can be purchased and also an add on that some models might be able to attach here ?

trikermutha
02-24-2019, 07:23 AM
Thing he is referring to the two tabs sticking upward??

I was thinking sticking a frickin lazer in that area.

Joel The Biker
02-24-2019, 09:23 AM
My dad's 2013 RT-S has a jump-start port in that location. Wish I had one.
169584

Bart
02-24-2019, 10:15 AM
Now that's cool!

Bart
02-24-2019, 10:18 AM
Thing he is referring to the two tabs sticking upward??

I was thinking sticking a frickin lazer in that area.

:roflblack::roflblack:

Bart
02-24-2019, 10:20 AM
you have 2 brackets in that area , mmmmmmmmmm wondering if there is something that can be purchased and also an add on that some models might be able to attach here ?

That's kinda what I was hoping to find out. Interesting about the jump start.

Chupaca
02-24-2019, 10:50 AM
The other thing is that these units are made for the international market and european models for one have some different requirments. There could be something they use elsewhere that goes there that is not used here...:dontknow: they make just one frame and then build it accordingly like the wiring harnesses having plugs not used....

Deanna777
02-24-2019, 12:13 PM
I always find it interesting when there are brackets, but nothing in them. Any clue what could go in here? This is under the left cover next to the trunk release. :dontknow: Hi Bart, I think I can help, I have a 2014RTS-SE6 and here is a picture of mine: 169592.

Is the space you are taking about below the plug-in for the buds?

Deanna

IdahoMtnSpyder
02-24-2019, 09:21 PM
Joel is correct. The 2013 RT models had positive and negative jump start posts on a bracket there. It was a one year only feature. Maybe BRP engineers determined there wasn't enough call to jump start Spyders to justify the cost of having it there.

canamjhb
02-24-2019, 10:05 PM
Joel is correct. The 2013 RT models had positive and negative jump start posts on a bracket there. It was a one year only feature. Maybe BRP engineers determined there wasn't enough call to jump start Spyders to justify the cost of having it there.

That makes sense. They moved the battery so it is easier to get to if a jump start in required. No need anymore for the extra terminals. Just did not re-engineer the brackets.....? Jim

Bart
02-25-2019, 12:47 AM
It sounds like y'all cleared it for me, thank you! :2thumbs:

IdahoMtnSpyder
02-25-2019, 12:52 AM
They moved the battery so it is easier to get to if a jump start in required. No need anymore for the extra terminals. Just did not re-engineer the brackets.....? Jim
Not quite. The 2010 - 2012 RTs have the battery in the rear but no jumper posts. The 2013 has the battery in the front and the jumper posts. 2014 on have the battery in the front and no jumper posts. Go figure!!

The jumper posts on the 2013 were great for connecting accessory power cables!

Bob Denman
02-25-2019, 09:31 AM
They did have jumper posts: under the seat! :thumbup:

Deanna777
02-26-2019, 08:21 PM
They diud have jumper posts: under the seat! :thumbup:
2012 spyders had jumper posts under the seat. ( my first spyder was a 2012 rts-se5).

Also the battery was underneath the seat.
Deanna

IdahoMtnSpyder
02-26-2019, 11:59 PM
2012 spyders had jumper posts under the seat. ( my first spyder was a 2012 rts-se5).

Also the battery was underneath the seat.
Deanna
I wondered about that as I didn't think the battery was that accessible, but I didn't see any indication of them on the parts diagram pic of the positive and ground cables. Maybe I just didn't look close enough! Or, I guess I could've looked in the owner's manual! They're shown there but labelled terminals, not posts.

Bart
02-27-2019, 12:49 AM
I wondered about that as I didn't think the battery was that accessible, but I didn't see any indication of them on the parts diagram pic of the positive and ground cables. Maybe I just didn't look close enough! Or, I guess I could've looked in the owner's manual! They're shown there but labelled terminals, not posts.

Pish posh, who looks at the owners manual!? That's like reading installation instructions.....

Bob Denman
02-27-2019, 07:42 AM
I wondered about that as I didn't think the battery was that accessible, but I didn't see any indication of them on the parts diagram pic of the positive and ground cables. Maybe I just didn't look close enough! Or, I guess I could've looked in the owner's manual! They're shown there but labelled terminals, not posts.

The battery was hidden behind the left saddlebag... The jumper terminals were actually a pretty necessary item on these bikes.
Remember the fun that you could have; after loosening the screws that were in the terminals? (Try getting a wrench underneath them in order to tighten them back up... :gaah:)

Deanna777
02-27-2019, 01:54 PM
I wondered about that as I didn't think the battery was that accessible, but I didn't see any indication of them on the parts diagram pic of the positive and ground cables. Maybe I just didn't look close enough! Or, I guess I could've looked in the owner's manual! They're shown there but labelled terminals, not posts.I connected the "pig tail" to the battery, to run the battery/maintainer to keep the battery charged ( it had the 998 engine). Deanna

zuni
02-27-2019, 05:34 PM
I used them to mount a fuse block for my accessories. Easy location to check and replace fuses if needed. I attached a corner bracket to each and then mounted the fuse block to the corner bracket.

CJ JAX

Purple Guy
02-27-2019, 07:44 PM
It is kind of hard to see the mounts in question but I will hazard a guess that the mounts are for the electronic actuator for the frunk lid release that was discontinued in either 2012 or 2013.

IdahoMtnSpyder
02-28-2019, 12:56 AM
It is kind of hard to see the mounts in question but I will hazard a guess that the mounts are for the electronic actuator for the frunk lid release that was discontinued in either 2012 or 2013.
Nope. The mounts in the OP supported the battery jumper posts in 2013 only. The frunk lid actuator was mounted directly on the frunk lid latch mechanism.

zuni
02-28-2019, 10:22 PM
It is kind of hard to see the mounts in question but I will hazard a guess that the mounts are for the electronic actuator for the frunk lid release that was discontinued in either 2012 or 2013.

I think the hunt for the purpose still continues because the brackets exist in my 2015 F3s as well as our 2017 RTs. I would agree with an earlier post that there are used outside of NA for something.

CJ JAX

Peter Aawen
03-01-2019, 12:46 AM
I dunno, I thought that the 'hunt' for their purpose is well & truly over. As has been pointed out earlier, the brackets are for the remote battery terminal block on the 2013 Spyders.

2013 was the year that saw the last significant changes to the frame; before then, the battery was under the seat so there was no need for those brackets & they aren't on the earlier models. But along came 2013 & the new frame with those posts/brackets, which were put there to hold the remote battery terminals, basically so you didn't have to open up the battery case that's down in the depths of the frunk. The brackets are located under the black cover under the trailing edge of the frunk lid just below the LH headlight (ie, in the top of the frunk below the headlight that's in front of the Spyder ahead of a seated rider's left knee - they're on the opposite side to where the frunk light & the 'frunk still open' micro switch is located!)

I don't know why the 1330 RT Spyders after 2013 didn't get those remote battery terminals/posts, but that is what that bracket held, and the frame hasn't had any significant changes since, and without any significant frame changes needed, every RT Spyder since 2013 still scored the brackets! Simples! :thumbup:

zuni
03-01-2019, 06:39 AM
I dunno, I thought that the 'hunt' for their purpose is well & truly over. As has been pointed out earlier, the brackets are for the remote battery terminal block on the 2013 Spyders.

2013 was the year that saw the last significant changes to the frame; before then, the battery was under the seat so there was no need for those brackets & they aren't on the earlier models. But along came 2013 & the new frame with those posts/brackets, which were put there to hold the remote battery terminals, basically so you didn't have to open up the battery case that's down in the depths of the frunk. The brackets are located under the black cover under the trailing edge of the frunk lid just below the LH headlight (ie, in the top of the frunk below the headlight that's in front of the Spyder ahead of a seated rider's left knee - they're on the opposite side to where the frunk light & the 'frunk still open' micro switch is located!)

I don't know why the 1330 RT Spyders after 2013 didn't get those remote battery terminals/posts, but that is what that bracket held, and the frame hasn't had any significant changes since, and without any significant frame changes needed, every RT Spyder since 2013 still scored the brackets! Simples! :thumbup:

Valid argument but why are they on a different model that wasn't made until two years after? They exist on both my F3s and F3t series as well.

CJ Jax

Peter Aawen
03-01-2019, 06:54 AM
Valid argument but why are they on a different model that wasn't made until two years after? They exist on both my F3s and F3t series as well.

CJ Jax

They are on all the Spyder models made after 2013 - BRP haven't changed the frame significantly since then so instead of making a fairly expensive design & tooling change just to delete a couple of superfluous brackets, they are still there & all models get them! This is something that happens a whole lot in the automotive industry & many other industries that manufacture similar things, & BRP isn't any different or doing anything different to all the other manufacturers in this, they are saving the $$ by not making needless changes until there's a big enough reason to actually make the change worthwhile! I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were other brackets somewhere on the frame that aren't still being used as well.... :thumbup:

M109Dreamer
03-01-2019, 10:51 AM
That's kinda what I was hoping to find out. Interesting about the jump start.

This has been brought up in the past, and I believe someone had posted that it is a bracket the factory uses when building it. To move that portion of the Spyder from station to station.