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Hey all. We are going to purchase a Spyder this summer for my wife. She is interested in an automatic. We have been riding 2 up for years on my R1150GS. Oilheads are the only bike I really know about. Is there any particular years or models that we should stay away from? Also, anything that we should be looking for, listening for or testing when looking at them? Thank you very much.
Chupaca
02-10-2019, 11:39 AM
Well..... are you looking for used or new..?? are you looking at semi-automatic or full automatic...?? and then the best advice as always is go to the dealer and test the different models for yourself. You have the RT semi-auto, the F3 semi-auto and the new Ryker full automatic. All come with the 1330 cc triple with a
900 triple and 600 parallel twin in the ryker. Price is also in that sequence...RT, F3, Ryker....:thumbup:
tibadoe
02-10-2019, 11:47 AM
Welcome from VA.
Well..... are you looking for used or new..?? are you looking at semi-automatic or full automatic...?? and then the best advice as always is go to the dealer and test the different models for yourself. You have the RT semi-auto, the F3 semi-auto and the new Ryker full automatic. All come with the 1330 cc triple with a
900 triple and 600 parallel twin in the ryker. Price is also in that sequence...RT, F3, Ryker....:thumbup:
We are looking at used. Our budget is between $10,000 - $12,000 cash. As far as transmission goes, either semi or full auto is good. My biggest concern was if there were any known issues that slipped through quality control. For example there is one Transmission for the R1150GS that BMW decided to make the output shaft to short. Thanks all and thanks for the welcome.
3 Wheel Rider
02-10-2019, 12:32 PM
What type of riding do you want it for... around town & short day trips or multi-day long distance touring? This could be the difference between a Ryker, F3 series and a RT series trike.
What type of riding do you want it for... around town & short day trips or multi-day long distance touring? This could be the difference between a Ryker, F3 series and a RT series trike.
During the week is just short little trips in the evenings after work, on the weekends we can disappear for 12 hours or more in upstate New York or wherever. We were looking at videos on the Ryker and she definitely didn't like how small it was. I just want to be sure that what ever model we buy that it can last a very long time. Also, is the maintenance pretty straight forward on a Spyder? Again as an example I do the swing arm bearings, slave cylinder, valve adjustment, throttle body sync and other miscellaneous items every so often on my bike. Just wanting to get first hand opinions from Spyder owners. Thanks all.
Highwayman2013
02-10-2019, 12:51 PM
I agree with the question: "What kind of riding will you do?" You could get into a new Ryker around $8500 for a 600cc model or $9999 for a 900. The advantage is having a warranty. The disadvantage is the jury is still out on long range touring or any flaws. A used older Spyder will have no warranty and the twin engines are more maintenance intensive. If you are interested in the bikes with the 1330 triple engine, you may be able to find a nice F3S in your price range. Here's one:https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Can-Am-F3s-SE6-Special/273694473410?hash=item3fb9763cc2:g:gKAAAOSwHcdcXxn W:rk:2:pf:0&vxp=mtr
Here is another:https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?118451-2015-F3-for-sale-4900-miles-Many-upgrades!
I agree with the question: "What kind of riding will you do?" You could get into a new Ryker around $8500 for a 600cc model or $9999 for a 900. The advantage is having a warranty. The disadvantage is the jury is still out on long range touring or any flaws. A used older Spyder will have no warranty and the twin engines are more maintenance intensive. If you are interested in the bikes with the 1330 triple engine, you may be able to find a nice F3S in your price range. Here's one:https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Can-Am-F3s-SE6-Special/273694473410?hash=item3fb9763cc2:g:gKAAAOSwHcdcXxn W:rk:2:pf:0&vxp=mtr
Here is another:https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?118451-2015-F3-for-sale-4900-miles-Many-upgrades!
The one thing my wife really didn't like about the Ryker is, you don't get the trunk up front like the other models and she wanted a little more size. She does like the F3's.
Highwayman2013
02-10-2019, 01:22 PM
The one thing my wife really didn't like about the Ryker is, you don't get the trunk up front like the other models and she wanted a little more size. She does like the F3's.
My wife has the F3 Limited and likes it way more than the RT. You can always add a trunk and saddlebag(s) to the Ryker or F3. The Semi-Auto or SE trans shifts up with a paddle near the left grip. It does downshift on it's own. The Ryker is a CVT so no shifting. I did ride one and it was a lot of fun, don't rule it out without trying it.
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What do you all think about the price point for this one?
Highwayman2013
02-10-2019, 01:33 PM
Looks like it's right in the ballpark.
We might go this week and take a look at that.
3 Wheel Rider
02-10-2019, 02:15 PM
I agree with some of the others a F3 series (probably a F3 with a top case or F3T) may be the best fit for you both based on the style of riding, storage requirements, and price points.
Looks like it's right in the ballpark.
You said price is right in the ball park. Should we negotiate any on the price in your opinion? If something is a fair price we don't try to get the price down but if there is room for honest negotiating then we will.
ARtraveler
02-10-2019, 03:17 PM
There are now a LOT of choices for new buyers. The market has been a bit depressed...so that makes it a BUYERS market.
Two up riding...should make the RT a consideration. Two variants out there now. They came in two cylinders through 2013...then three cylinder 1330's. The F3's also have the 1330 engine.
Manual or Semi Auto? The SE costs about $1,500 more...but it will make the rig easier to sell at trade or sale time. Manuals do not sell as well. There are a lot out there...but they are fewer than the SE's. My first (2008) was a manual...it was fine. The next four were all semi auto's. I would not go back to manual on the Spyder. If I want to shift...I have the Vulcan 900.
The only year that had some red flags...was the 2013 RT. It had heat issues. It took BRP a couple years...but they added a heat remediation kit in 2015 or so. Those machines that got the free heat remediation were fine. If you buy a 2013 RT make sure you got the heat kit. It will have to extra air scoops in the area just below the windshield.
The two cylinders have been discontinued in favor of the 1330 three. Remaining two's can be had in the ball park you are looking for. I have one of each...and am just fine with either.
It remains to be seen how the market will go this year. My guess is depressed. The addition of the Ryker (sub $10K for new) is going to make the used Spyder market interesting. The Ryker is not recommended for two up or long touring. There are still people that say "humbug" to that. Time will tell if they are right or wrong. :yes:
There are now a LOT of choices for new buyers. The market has been a bit depressed...so that makes it a BUYERS market.
Two up riding...should make the RT a consideration. Two variants out there now. They came in two cylinders through 2013...then three cylinder 1330's. The F3's also have the 1330 engine.
Manual or Semi Auto? The SE costs about $1,500 more...but it will make the rig easier to sell at trade or sale time. Manuals do not sell as well. There are a lot out there...but they are fewer than the SE's. My first (2008) was a manual...it was fine. The next four were all semi auto's. I would not go back to manual on the Spyder. If I want to shift...I have the Vulcan 900.
The only year that had some red flags...was the 2013 RT. It had heat issues. It took BRP a couple years...but they added a heat remediation kit in 2015 or so. Those machines that got the free heat remediation were fine. If you buy a 2013 RT make sure you got the heat kit. It will have to extra air scoops in the area just below the windshield.
The two cylinders have been discontinued in favor of the 1330 three. Remaining two's can be had in the ball park you are looking for. I have one of each...and am just fine with either.
It remains to be seen how the market will go this year. My guess is depressed. The addition of the Ryker (sub $10K for new) is going to make the used Spyder market interesting. The Ryker is not recommended for two up or long touring. There are still people that say "humbug" to that. Time will tell if they are right or wrong. :yes:
We are going this week to look at a 2015 F3 S6 Semi-auto for my wife with 12,375 miles. She doesn't have a permit yet but if it feels good to her sitting then I suppose I will be riding it home.
ARtraveler
02-10-2019, 04:26 PM
We are going this week to look at a 2015 F3 S6 Semi-auto for my wife with 12,375 miles. She doesn't have a permit yet but if it feels good to her sitting then I suppose I will be riding it home.
Sounds like a good choice. :thumbup:
CopperSpyder
02-10-2019, 06:28 PM
If it's the first time you ride a Spyder be careful on the ride home, they can ride a little different. Empty parking lot for a few minutes would be good until you get the feel of it. Good Luck!
If it's the first time you ride a Spyder be careful on the ride home, they can ride a little different. Empty parking lot for a few minutes would be good until you get the feel of it. Good Luck!
Would you say they are similar to a 4wheeler? I obviously ride motorcycles but also 4wheelers and have ridden snow machines as well.
CopperSpyder
02-10-2019, 07:38 PM
all are similar. Most grip too tight and try to over control the first time they get on one. relax go easy for a little bit, it will come to you quickly. May wiggle a little from over control when you first start.
all are similar. Most grip too tight and try to over control the first time they get on one. relax go easy for a little bit, it will come to you quickly. May wiggle a little from over control when you first start.
I do appreciate the advice. Thank you.
CopperSpyder
02-10-2019, 07:52 PM
PA offers free motorcycle license training classes for 3 wheel and 2 wheel bikes make sure the wife take advantage of that! Live to Ride, Ride to Live.
PA offers free motorcycle license training classes for 3 wheel and 2 wheel bikes make sure the wife take advantage of that! Live to Ride, Ride to Live.
Yeah, the PMSP. I did it years ago and yeah, I told my wife that it is definitely a must and plus if you successfully complete the course she can get her 9 restriction for 3 wheels. I like it because it is a one stop shop.
CopperSpyder
02-10-2019, 08:09 PM
And a good discount on your insurance! Good Luck Happy Spyder Hunting:yes:
And a good discount on your insurance! Good Luck Happy Spyder Hunting:yes:
Yes. I can't remember what the discount was but I do remember letting them know that I did complete the PMSP.
I just realized that I have to people replying from two states that we have lived in. Alaska and Virginia.
Highwayman2013
02-10-2019, 08:45 PM
I meant two.
I’m originally from Pa and now live in Las Vegas. I would always try to get the price down if I could. I gave you two bikes from the for sale thread on this forum, check those out as well. One guy should be fairly close to you. Good Luck!
I’m originally from Pa and now live in Las Vegas. I would always try to get the price down if I could. I gave you two bikes from the for sale thread on this forum, check those out as well. One guy should be fairly close to you. Good Luck!
Unfortunately the guy on Ebay is in Pennsylvania but almost 5 hours away and the other guy is in Staten island. Way to far of a drive for us.
Revalden
02-10-2019, 10:21 PM
Hey all. We are going to purchase a Spyder this summer for my wife. She is interested in an automatic. We have been riding 2 up for years on my R1150GS. Oilheads are the only bike I really know about. Is there any particular years or models that we should stay away from? Also, anything that we should be looking for, listening for or testing when looking at them? Thank you very much.
We recently (Nov. 2018) bought a 2015 RTS Special Series with only 9000 miles Lotsa bells and whistles, we love riding it 2up. I just bought a Shop Manual for it. Holy Crap it's a complicated, electronically controlled machine. I requires LOTSA dealership (aka EXPENSIVE) visits and parts are BRP Can-Am exclusivity. Buy a Shop Manual on CD (eBay), about $15-25, BEFORE you buy one. I'll probably get flamed for this post, but you need to be aware of what you're getting into.
We recently (Nov. 2018) bought a 2015 RTS Special Series with only 9000 miles Lotsa bells and whistles, we love riding it 2up. I just bought a Shop Manual for it. Holy Crap it's a complicated, electronically controlled machine. I requires LOTSA dealership (aka EXPENSIVE) visits and parts are BRP Can-Am exclusivity. Buy a Shop Manual on CD (eBay), about $15-25, BEFORE you buy one. I'll probably get flamed for this post, but you need to be aware of what you're getting into.
I am fairly mechanically inclined and my brother in law was a motorcycle technician so I am not to worried about that. Also, most things if taken care of seem to last without expensive fixes. I appreciate the heads up though.
al0vely
02-11-2019, 11:37 AM
I would encourage you to look at the for sale by owner forum here - you can save yourself some $$$ and even possibly get a newer Spyder for less money. There is a 2016 listed in PA in the for sale forum that is now listed on eBay current bid at $9800. I purchased mine from eBay in 2016 - no regrets here. Also there is a white 2015 like the one you are looking at for $11k.
I would encourage you to look at the for sale by owner forum here - you can save yourself some $$$ and even possibly get a newer Spyder for less money. There is a 2016 listed in PA in the for sale forum that is now listed on eBay current bid at $9800. I purchased mine from eBay in 2016 - no regrets here. Also there is a white 2015 like the one you are looking at for $11k.
I searched the for sale forum and even used the search box to specifically type Pennsylvania and did not see the one for $9800 that you mentioned.
al0vely
02-11-2019, 11:54 AM
I searched the for sale forum and even used the search box to specifically type Pennsylvania and did not see the one for $9800 that you mentioned.
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?118137-For-Sale-2016-F3s-SE6-Special-12-500-w-3-years-left-on-BRP-Warranty
It is the one also listed on eBay - you said was too far away. I live in IN and purchased mine from Tampa, FL it was worth the savings at the time.
Good luck!
Big F
02-12-2019, 10:10 AM
If your bride is riding with you most of the time I would suggest the RT. for comfort, storage, etc.
BIG F
Best of luck! Hope to see some pics of what you end up with. You've been given great advise, use it.:cheers:
Best of luck! Hope to see some pics of what you end up with. You've been given great advise, use it.:cheers:
Roger
Two cats
02-13-2019, 08:38 AM
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What do you all think about the price point for this one?
that looks like a good choice. Price looks on target. I'd get it before it gets away. It may not last long. And if your doing cash I'd make a good offer to see if you can get it for a lower price. And welcome to the family. Happy Trails from Tennessee.:riding:
that looks like a good choice. Price looks on target. I'd get it before it gets away. It may not last long. And if your doing cash I'd make a good offer to see if you can get it for a lower price. And welcome to the family. Happy Trails from Tennessee.:riding:
Thank you. We have an appointment tomorrow morning to go look at it.
Two cats
02-13-2019, 05:52 PM
Thank you. We have an appointment tomorrow morning to go look at it.
Sounds good. You should be very happy with the spyder. Looks like a very nice bike. Hope all goes well. GOOD Luck. Happy Trails:riding:
Sounds good. You should be very happy with the spyder. Looks like a very nice bike. Hope all goes well. GOOD Luck. Happy Trails:riding:
Thanks
We got the F3-S SE6 today. My wife road the RT around the property of the dealer and really liked the F3 better. Some people asked for pics. Here you go. 169381169382
Two cats
02-14-2019, 09:45 PM
We got the F3-S SE6 today. My wife road the RT around the property of the dealer and really like the F3 better. Some people asked for pics. Here you go. 169381169382
Good for you, Looks like a great bike. Hope you have many many wonderful rides together. Happy Trails:riding:
Good for you, Looks like a great bike. Hope you have many many wonderful rides together. Happy Trails:riding:
Thanks. Sorry for the sideways photos. Didn't think when taking them.
Those are awesome looking! Congrats!!
Those are awesome looking! Congrats!!
Thank you.
al0vely
02-15-2019, 06:52 AM
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Right side up - nice Spyder enjoy!
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Right side up - nice Spyder enjoy!
Lol. Thanks.
Deanna777
02-15-2019, 12:52 PM
Would you say they are similar to a 4wheeler? I obviously ride motorcycles but also 4wheelers and have ridden snow machines as well.HI, the Spyders are like snowmobiles, but on wheels. The spyders have the same "Y"Frame as snowmobiles.
I have a 2014RTS-SE6 it has the ACE 1330 triple engine, it is very low maintance, ( cognac) and I also drive a 2016 SKI-DO Blizzard.
Deanna
CopperSpyder
02-15-2019, 07:48 PM
:congrats: on the new F3 nice looking bike!!
:congrats: on the new F3 nice looking bike!!
Thank you.
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