Co2 cartridge

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

For those of you that have inflated a Spyder tire using a Co2 cartridge ….. What size did you use and how many cartridges did it take.….. This seems like the way to go, instead of having to carry an air compressor ….. Even the smallest ones take up a bit of space, and can & do break ….. Not so with a cartridge ……….Thanks Mike :thumbup: ……..Happy New Year :yes:

[PMK]

I have considered this but never did it yet, why not simply adapt a few added fittings, some electrical to override the system and use the Spyders onboard compressor.

[Bob Denman]

Mike
You could probably pick up a larger Co2 tank (like the ones used by all of those paintballers), and adapt that to the task...
It would save on carrying a whole bunch of those little ones! :thumbup:

[Joel The Biker]

It will take 4-6 cartridges to fill the tire depending on the size of tire. About 4-5 psi per cartridge.

[Bob Denman]

It will take 4-6 cartridges to fill the tire depending on the size of tire. About 4-5 psi per cartridge.

:D So this will all depend on your choice of tire pressures? :shocked: I smell a heated debate coming! :roflblack:

[blacklightning]

:D So this will all depend on your choice of tire pressures? :shocked: I smell a heated debate coming! :roflblack:
I would think that if you are having to use a co2 catridge, it is a sort of emergency situation. If that is the case, you only need enough psi to make the tire roundish again. 10 would be plenty enough to do that. I had a nail in the rear of my M109 tire and the psi was down to 5. Normal pressure on that is 42 (not as much of a debate as it seems to be on here for a spyder tire). But with 5 psi, I had enough to make it home safely.

[yellow peril]

Mike,
look at bike sales places like JP Cycles or big Bike parts they have a kit with two large cylinders and valve adapters.
Comes in compact carry case. Might not fully in flate rear tire but should be enough to get you out of trouble.
Happy New Year
dave

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Mike,
look at bike sales places like JP Cycles or big Bike parts they have a kit with two large cylinders and valve adapters.
Comes in compact carry case. Might not fully in flate rear tire but should be enough to get you out of trouble.
Happy New Year
dave

Thanks for the responses :clap:......To answer all the above ……. Yes this will be for emergency use ie. after fixing a flat ….. I agree, I will only need to pressure the tire enough to get to a gas station ….. I found a valve for $3.75 delivered and Co2 20gram cartridges for $3.00 ea ..delivered ………………. Now I want to know How Many and What size someone used to actually do this …….Thanks again All ….. Mike :thumbup:

[cueman]

My BMW came with 3 cartridges in the tool kit. I would think any BMW dealer would have them. If I remember correctly, size was about 3 1/2" - 4" long and a diameter of about an index finger. I know this isn't the best description, but at the moment, it's all I got.:dontknow: cueman

[Geep]

On my bikes I carried this, used once it worked very well although I didn’t have to use CO2 cartridge due to someone having portable air compressor

https://www.stopngo.com/pocket-tire-plugger-for-all-tubeless-tires/

[GOZFST]

I used to carry a CO2 cartridge repair kit, the one time I needed it the first patch didn't seal the tire and by the time I realized it I didn't have enough cartridges to fill it up. I use a small elec pump now.

[JayBros]

IMO, if one chooses to use a CO2 system one should also factor in the number of cartridges some extras that may have to be expended in hunting for and finding the leak before one plugs it. Based on decades of bicycling and many tens of thousands of miles I also would not give up carrying another source of air. I've been on a number of rides wherein a rider with a pump bailed out another who ran into the, "aw:cus:, my CO2 system failed" problem. Carrying enough cartridges to just get it round enough may be unwise if the nearest location of an air pump is big double or triple digit miles away, like on US-285 in NM.

[PMK]

IMO, if one chooses to use a CO2 system one should also factor in the number of cartridges some extras that may have to be expended in hunting for and finding the leak before one plugs it. Based on decades of bicycling and many tens of thousands of miles I also would not give up carrying another source of air. I've been on a number of rides wherein a rider with a pump bailed out another who ran into the, "aw:cus:, my CO2 system failed" problem. Carrying enough cartridges to just get it round enough may be unwise if the nearest location of an air pump is big double or triple digit miles away, like on US-285 in NM.

Oh yeah...Sit, watch and wait as the rider or sometimes tandem bicycle team tries to repair a flat tire. Sometimes I just watch, other times just refuse be waiting 20 minutes as the person fumbles around. Always exciting watching another person blow the tire right off the rim.

[Chupaca]

I carry the mushroom plug kit that comes with two large capasity co2 shots and a couple extra. I have never had to use it but did back home on the off road vehicles and they worked fine. Two will get you off the ground keep the others in case or if the next station is close use a bit more...:thumbup: you know we grew up using a good old fashion hand pump and got us out of trouble many times.....

[ARtraveler]

Sounds like a good idea to practice the procedure before actually needing to do it. Then you will know how many cartridges to make sure you have with you.

I hate it when stuff happens, and the fix does not work. :gaah:

[rtotten]

Mike, where did you find the valves and cartridges for that price?

Thanks
Rick

[Bfromla]

168217 screw the CO2:roflblack: carry your active membership card & the cell phone you probably already have, & roadside assistance can be on the way with fix & or tow if more is needed, definitely smaller to carry possibly cheaper too:thumbup:&ALL the other PERKS:2thumbs::doorag:

[JayBros]

Oh yeah...Sit, watch and wait as the rider or sometimes tandem bicycle team tries to repair a flat tire. Sometimes I just watch, other times just refuse be waiting 20 minutes as the person fumbles around. Always exciting watching another person blow the tire right off the rim.

It's really a side show with tandem teams, twice as many kibitzers -- been there, done that.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

168217 screw the CO2:roflblack: carry your active membership card & the cell phone you probably already have, & roadside assistance can be on the way with fix & or tow if more is needed, definitely smaller to carry possibly cheaper too:thumbup:&ALL the other PERKS:2thumbs::doorag:
Great idea, unless you're out in the middle of the dessert in NM, ID, AZ, WY, or who knows how many other places 100 miles from civilization, let alone a m/c or tire dealer! :(

My thought about CO2 vs compressor. One has a limited supply for replenishment. The other has an unlimited supply! :ohyea:

[ARtraveler]

Great idea, unless you're out in the middle of the dessert in NM, ID, AZ, WY, or who knows how many other places 100 miles from civilization, let alone a m/c or tire dealer! :(

My thought about CO2 vs compressor. One has a limited supply for replenishment. The other has an unlimited supply! :ohyea:

And don't forget the Alaska boonies. Soon, we will be 1000 miles from the nearest dealer.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

And don't forget the Alaska boonies. Soon, we will be 1000 miles from the nearest dealer.

Yeah, BRP needs to reevaluate their criteria for dealerships in lesser populated regions.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Great idea, unless you're out in the middle of the dessert in NM, ID, AZ, WY, or who knows how many other places 100 miles from civilization, let alone a m/c or tire dealer! :(

My thought about CO2 vs compressor. One has a limited supply for replenishment. The other has an unlimited supply! :ohyea:

Here's ( to me anyway ) the most important thing about using Co2 cartridges. It's for Emergency use ONLY. I've been driving 100's of various veh's during my 71 yrs of life ( maybe 3,000,000 miles )….. I have had only ….. ONE .…. flat tire ..… ( I shouldn't have said this because I'll immed. get one :gaah: ) … and :agree: you aren't always near a " service area " …… I'm NOT saying this is the best idea only that it is an idea that to me is a sensible alternative ….. Thanks … Mike :thumbup:

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Mike, where did you find the valves and cartridges for that price?

Thanks
Rick

I sent you a PM with the best prices I found ( with free shipping ) …… Mike :thumbup:

[Joel The Biker]

You could also use the onboard compressor if you have an RT with compressor built in. Just need a hose to attach under the seat and to the tire. Leave bike running and in gear with brake on. It will fill your tire.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

You could also use the onboard compressor if you have an RT with compressor built in. Just need a hose to attach under the seat and to the tire. Leave bike running and in gear with brake on. It will fill your tire.

I don't have that option …………. Thanks …. Mike:thumbup:

[rtotten]

Thanks Mike

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Thanks Mike

Your welcome - We still don't know how many it takes ….but the nite is young :yes:...………. Mike

[Joel The Biker]

https://youtu.be/-GZCs7jQ25c

Watch this and you might change your mind. Be aware that you will have to let the CO2 out and replace with air. The CO2 will leak out quickly and the tire will most likely be flat the next day.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Anyone know what brand/model bike that is in the video? BMW? You notice it has the same wheel hub nut on it the Ryker has. Wonder how available & expensive the tool is for it, if it is the same size?

[Peter Aawen]

If you watch the Shawn Smoak vid about assembling a Ryker & the tools needed, you can see that while the BMW socket he tries in that is the correct 'size', it isn't anywhere near deep enough to reach the 'star' section & turn it due to the raised edge that the Rykers' safety 'C' Clip slots into!! :shocked:

So yeah, the vid Joel linked in post #28 is very likely showing a BMW wheel, but while their wheel sockets are essentially the same size, they simply WILL NOT fit the Rykers in any useable way! :gaah:

[lonestar2112]

I picked up a CO2 kit from Cabelas for my quads, it came with a large CO2 cylinder and and adapter to mount to the tire. The proce was fairly cheap, I keep one oneach quad and one and two spare cylinders on the Spyder.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

If you watch the Shawn Smoak vid about assembling a Ryker & the tools needed, you can see that while the BMW socket he tries in that is the correct 'size', it isn't anywhere near deep enough to reach the 'star' section & turn it due to the raised edge that the Rykers' safety 'C' Clip slots into!! :shocked:

So yeah, the vid Joel linked in post #28 is very likely showing a BMW wheel, but while their wheel sockets are essentially the same size, they simply WILL NOT fit the Rykers in any useable way! :gaah:

I don't think there's any way the tool Shawn has for a BMW would work on the nut we see in the video Joel links to for the same reason it didn't work for Shawn on the Ryker nut. So the bike in Joel's video must not be a BMW, or BMW has different configurations for its hub nuts.

[Joel The Biker]

It is a Ducati Multistrada