Rally with standard rims

[Wijames]

I was on the Can Am website and this picture looks like a rally with standard rims. I didn’t think it was possible. Thoughts?

[Rob Rodriguez]

I agree that's a rally with standard rims. I prefer the standard rims myself. The rally rims look just like the rims on my Toyota Tundra :(

I'd also like to know if the standard rims can be put on a rally.

[Peter Aawen]

Are you sure it's not just a 'non-Rally' 900 Ryker with the hand protector & pillion seat/rear mudguard options? I haven't seen enough of the different tires & sizes yet to tell the difference from a sorta blurry pic, but I'm pretty sure that all those 'easily visible' things seem to be readily available as options, with the only 'real identifiers' between the two apart from the tires & the rear rim size being things you can't easily see without turning the Ryker on.... :dontknow:

Still, I don't see how the rims & tires wouldn't be interchangeable if you really want them, especially if it's just the fronts & appearance you are concerned about?! ;)

[Wijames]

Actually, why I think its a Rally is because of the rear fender, type of tires, and various guards. The fender on a 900 covers the entire top half of the tire, on the picture it is the rally rear fender which is only about 1/4 circle. Also, the nubby tires and lower guard probably make it a rally. The picture a screen shot from the ryker website that shows various builds. What I am not seeing is being able to build different rims or fenders on the site. Because they are different sizes I do not think you can just swap them out. Hopefully someone might have some info.

[cueman]

Seems I read, heard, or saw on utube that the rims on the Rally are more heavy duty for the intended use. I have to agree the picture from what I can tell sure looks like the Rally with the regular rims.

[Sarge707]

Actually you can add the silver part under the radiator and 2 silver pieces inside the front wheels as parts ordered which is what I'm going to do to make the 900 seem more like a rally- The silver piece on the end of the Rally muffler can also be swapped to the 900. Gonna get exciting when they come out!!!

[Wijames]

Sarge,
Thanks for the input. Do you know if you can change the rear fender? They are different on the two models. I would order a Rally tomorrow if I could get the black rims. Or if I could get the 900 with a rally mode setting. Like Rob stated above, they remind me of truck wheels. I get they are reinforced but my concern is a marketing person at Can Am might have got creative with photoshop!

[Joel The Biker]

I dont understand why you guys think the regular wheels wont fit the rally edition. They have the same hubs. What is the fitment issue you think there will be? I dont see any.

[Rob Rodriguez]

The fronts would fit fine. The rear rim on the standard Ryker is 16", on the Rally its 15"

[Wijames]

The rear wheel size is the first issue. My other concern is you do not have the option on the site to change wheels. I am hoping I don’t need to buy an extra of wheels set especially since I would be buying a new Ryker.

[Joel The Biker]

I dont see a problem changing the rear wheel either. Jusr because the wheel size is larger, doesnt mean the rolling diameter is different. I dont see any problems swapping any of the wheels from any of tye rykers. The rear tire is just a lower profile tire on a larger rim. I have to argue this all the time with people. My car came with 17 inch wheels and I switched them to 19 inch wheels. People ask if it messes up my speedometer. Of course not. The 19 inch tires are a much lower profile but have the same rolling diameter, so speedometer still reads the correct speed.

[old Timer]

I dont see a problem changing the rear wheel either. Jusr because the wheel size is larger, doesnt mean the rolling diameter is different. I dont see any problems swapping any of the wheels from any of tye rykers. The rear tire is just a lower profile tire on a larger rim. I have to argue this all the time with people. My car came with 17 inch wheels and I switched them to 19 inch wheels. People ask if it messes up my speedometer. Of course not. The 19 inch tires are a much lower profile but have the same rolling diameter, so speedometer still reads the correct speed.

Absolutely correct. :thumbup:

[Rob Rodriguez]

I dont see a problem changing the rear wheel either. Jusr because the wheel size is larger, doesnt mean the rolling diameter is different. I dont see any problems swapping any of the wheels from any of tye rykers. The rear tire is just a lower profile tire on a larger rim. I have to argue this all the time with people. My car came with 17 inch wheels and I switched them to 19 inch wheels. People ask if it messes up my speedometer. Of course not. The 19 inch tires are a much lower profile but have the same rolling diameter, so speedometer still reads the correct speed.

Perfect. Who wants to trade there standard Ryker rims with me for the Rally rims?

[Wijames]

Great idea!

[Wijames]

167776

Looks like someone at Can Am caught the mistake!

[KID Ryker]

Sarge,
Thanks for the input. Do you know if you can change the rear fender? They are different on the two models. I would order a Rally tomorrow if I could get the black rims. Or if I could get the 900 with a rally mode setting. Like Rob stated above, they remind me of truck wheels. I get they are reinforced but my concern is a marketing person at Can Am might have got creative with photoshop!
Have you test ridden the Ryker yet. I have rode it the 900cc I will not need the Rally Mode - Sport Mode all I need. Just me it does everything. :2thumbs:

[chris56]

I also still don`t know which one I should take ..
(the Rally has more space for a lower passenger seat and a better shock for 2up)

but the wheels look exact like the ones of my car ..;)
167796

[Rob Rodriguez]

I agree the wheel styling is terrible on the Rally model. If the test ride goes well I've decided to go for the standard 900 and add the fox shocks, swaybar and whatever else I need. The costs will be more than buying the Rally but I don't need Rally Mode and I guess the standard mode wheels are worth it to me.

75,000 possible customization combinations but one 1 wheel option. Hmmmmmmmmm seems wrong to me.

[jcthorne]

If a Rally model with standard rims is really what you want, just buy it that way. The rims are available as a dealer installed option just like on a Spyder.

[Sarge707]

If a Rally model with standard rims is really what you want, just buy it that way. The rims are available as a dealer installed option just like on a Spyder.

Be Very interesting to see the cost of this including labor when someone actually does it? I could not even guess?

[Rob Rodriguez]

Doing that would also mean purchasing 3 new tires since I'd rather have the "street" tires vs the all season on the Rally. I suspect the cost would be prohibitive and in the end be a wash to just buying a standard and adding the shocks

[old Timer]

I would be willing to bet that you could get a Ryker Dealer to swap the wheels/tires with another Ryker model. The swap wouldn't take more than 30 min with the new quick change Ryker Wheels. Seems like you guys are making a Mountain out of a Mole Hill.

I don't see it as a big deal.

The Rally model will have the highest resale model.

[jcthorne]

The rims are about a grand for all 3 in the parts book. Figure about 1.5 hrs dealer labor to change them out. I would only mess with the front two though for about $500 and a an hour labor.

[old Timer]

The rims are about a grand for all 3 in the parts book. Figure about 1.5 hrs dealer labor to change them out. I would only mess with the front two though for about $500 and a an hour labor.

I would suggest that upon buying a new Ryker, talk to the dealer about the swap knowing that it will essentially cost them nothing with the swap between two brand new models.

[Markubis]

Have you looked at the cost difference between the stock Rally and the 900 with the Fox shocks added? the Fox shocks are adjustable and will give you the best ride since they can be adjusted on the fly.

[Rob Rodriguez]

Have you looked at the cost difference between the stock Rally and the 900 with the Fox shocks added? the Fox shocks are adjustable and will give you the best ride since they can be adjusted on the fly.

The stock shocks on the Rally are fully adjustable KYB. Standard Rally is $9999, fox upgrade is $1700 (for front and rear) and the Max Mount is $300. The Rally is $10,999, comes with the KYB shocks (probably better than the Fox) and also the rear max mount. So standard with shocks and max mount is $12000, Rally is $11000. Then build other accessories off that.

Basically I'm paying an extra $1000 because I don't like the Rally rims. Sucks, but is what it is I guess.

[Grandpaspeed]

Buy what you want and do everything you want to it then enjoy it, when it comes down too it that's all that maters. It's yours.

[old Timer]

Buy what you want and do everything you want to it then enjoy it, when it comes down too it that's all that maters. It's yours.

True that.................:agree:

[CTAC]

Would it be possible to paint the Rally wheels black?

[nchangin]

At first the Rally wheels didn't appeal to me either but they are beginning to do the opposite. I'm guessing the silver part you could use that plastic dip stuff, similar to what guys do to chrome parts on trucks. Rally wheels are heavier duty for a reason, rear wheel has a higher profile tire on Rally as well for a reason I'm guessing has to do with drifting aspect of Rally mode. Rally edition seems to be a no brainer for the suspension and rear seat attachment thingy.

[Peter Aawen]

Would it be possible to paint the Rally wheels black?

It certainly would be possible! That'd give you a fairly unique look, at least for a while, ie, until everyone else sees it & starts doing the same. :thumbup:

BTW, welcome to the Forum & posting CTAC. :clap:

[CTAC]

Thank you, Peter, for the welcome to the group.... much appreciated! I used Microsoft Paint and roughly "colored" the wheels black. Looked pretty cool, actually, to my eyes. Seems like a little Krylon spray paint and should be good to go! :yes:

[KID Ryker]

167843 I know how you feel. But I did it. Do you really think the KYB are better then the Fox shocks. I hope not. I doing the same thing you are going to do. Turning my 900ACE in to a Rally because of the wheels.
The stock shocks on the Rally are fully adjustable KYB. Standard Rally is $9999, fox upgrade is $1700 (for front and rear) and the Max Mount is $300. The Rally is $10,999, comes with the KYB shocks (probably better than the Fox) and also the rear max mount. So standard with shocks and max mount is $12000, Rally is $11000. Then build other accessories off that.

Basically I'm paying an extra $1000 because I don't like the Rally rims. Sucks, but is what it is I guess.

[Wijames]

167843 I know how you feel. But I did it. Do you really think the KYB are better then the Fox shocks. I hope not. I doing the same thing you are going to do. Turning my 900ACE in to a Rally because of the wheels.
I am stuck in the same decision process... I also like the rear fender on the Rally. I am just waiting to see one in person before I pull the trigger. I cannot figure out how CamAm had all of these options but only had one set of rims.

[Sarge707]

I am stuck in the same decision process... I also like the rear fender on the Rally. I am just waiting to see one in person before I pull the trigger. I cannot figure out how CamAm had all of these options but only had one set of rims.
I was for the 900 BUT the Rally saves me $400 if I add the same Tupperware to make them equal. So 10,400 then add Max Thing and its 10,700 then you got stronger wheels, sturdier tires and Much Better shocks , Radiator Guard, side guards and skid plate with a Slightly more cushy seat? Those Silver wheels are looking Better and Better! I should be able to get one by the end of January because ALL the snowmobiles will be sold by then.