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cueman
11-21-2018, 02:49 PM
Like the title says, any super deals out there? :dontknow: cueman

ARtraveler
11-21-2018, 02:51 PM
Good luck with that one. If someone answers to the affirmative--IMO--I will be surprised. :bbq::bbq:

Sarge707
11-21-2018, 03:17 PM
I,m have my $250 deposit for the $10,000 and $635 Tax Only No Freight or Prep BUT I can,t guarantee the Same for others because the dealer says it takes 2 hours to prep or more if they do not know what their doing? The deposit will cover Title Plate/Reg and office fees so I'm OK with that. My dealer is getting 10 in December I so far I'm the ONLY one taking one- Most will wait till March or April?

cueman
11-21-2018, 05:32 PM
Hi Sarge, did you also get the second year warranty included? Thanks, cueman

Sarge707
11-21-2018, 05:37 PM
Hi Sarge, did you also get the second year warranty included? Thanks, cueman

Yes -If you put the $250 Deposit before 31 Jan 2019 the dealer fills out the certificate for the warranty. Second year Best warranty.

BLUEKNIGHT911
11-21-2018, 07:03 PM
Good luck with that one. If someone answers to the affirmative--IMO--I will be surprised. :bbq::bbq:

:agree::agree:...……… The profit margin on the Rykers has to be much, much smaller than any other Spyder.... You might get lucky and have free prep thrown in ………….jmho ….. Mike :thumbup:

Winnex3
11-21-2018, 09:47 PM
167356 Ryker rally starts at 1099.00 im getting mine for 10499 plus no set up fees and a dealers discount on army green panels had to put 500.00 down still i feel im getting a good deal

cueman
11-21-2018, 11:02 PM
Winnex3, Now that's what I'm talking about. Would you mind posting the dealer name and number? If not will you pm me the info? We are practically neighbors. :cheers: cueman

PMK
11-22-2018, 06:40 AM
From experience of previously worrking at a medium size dealership, and knowing from talking with friends that own bicycle shops, no dealer enjoys being forced to purchase oem branded items such as gear, accessories or vehicles.

There have been several mentions the Can Am has forced dealers to inventory Rykers.

The dealers, I suspect are hesitant as they are somewhat of an unknown. The key being if the bike is a hot item, prices will hold, if the Ryker is a dud, dealers will dump them ASAP to free up money for stuff that does sell easily.

Seems if you preorder, you can work a deal. Any dealer holding out for full price on an unknown is risking being stuck with what is at the moment a known sale, albeit at less profit. Smart dealer knows, Spyder consume floor space and more storage space than motorcycles. If they can sell one without holding it in inventory, even at at a discount, the dealer should jump on it.

Same happens with oem gear. Smart dealers dump it ASAP and then stock aftermarket brands with better margins and salable to any rider regardless of brand they ride.

My good friend that owns a bicycle shop, when he was a Cannondale dealer, they mandated how much accessory inventory he was required to stock, and pay for. Manufacturers often set minimum price limits, thinking they were protecting dealers. Every year, on opening day when minimum pricing expired, he blew out stuff on EBay, simply to recover as much of his stalled investment as possible.

Dealers being forced to stock Rykers, if they are hot, they will sell, if they are duds in your area, deals may be made.

Living in South Florida, I suspect Rykers will be popular for high end families wanting an easy get around the local area toy to ride. Not sure how they will fair as daily drivers for enthusiasts. I can see the Ryker being the entry level more serious motorcycle for those stepping up from a scooter.

PMK
11-22-2018, 06:47 AM
167356 Ryker rally starts at 1099.00 im getting mine for 10499 plus no set up fees and a dealers discount on army green panels had to put 500.00 down still i feel im getting a good deal

Smart move by your dealer. Make the customer happy. Do not stall invested money. Not taking up floor space or warehouse space. Move the inventory before it arrives, even at minimum profit.

Dealers that do this may deplete their inventory, however, other dealers will hold out for max profit, and possibly dealers with no inventory left can get those stagnant Rykers if needed.

Then again, maybe the market will consume all of them.

jgmcbride
11-22-2018, 10:19 AM
I have taken my "comedy tour" live. I either go to dealerships or contact them via phone or internet.

I say comedy tour because I end up making them laugh.

I live in Virginia and I include all those pesky Virginia charges

8499.00 20189 Can Am Ryker 600
352.71 Sales and Use tax (4.15% on 8499)
28.75 Registration/Tags
15.00 Title
12.00 State Inspection

8907.46 Total before any reasonable amount for markup

I am realistic, I know I am not going to be paying 8907.46, but come on, dealers, you be realistic also - quid pro quo!

I guess the big question is, what is reasonable/realistic?

Thank you, one and all, for reading my rant.

JayBros
11-22-2018, 11:51 AM
I'm going to be interested to see how my local dealership will do with Rykers because they are notorious for not giving one thin dime, one tenth of a dollar off MSRP on Spyders, even loaded Ltds.

Sarge707
11-22-2018, 03:26 PM
167356 Ryker rally starts at 1099.00 im getting mine for 10499 plus no set up fees and a dealers discount on army green panels had to put 500.00 down still i feel im getting a good deal

That's A good deal- I see they gave you $35 off the color and the Fees Reg/Lic were very reasonable. After I get mine home and buy the Windshield-Hand Guards and covers the next day for $335 I am going to expect at Least my standard 10% off on parts because they are going to make a killing on the accessories . The nice thing is going from Red to Yellow is only $210 for the console (2) Hood (1) and Behind the seat (1) and that's a LOT cheaper than the $1600 it cost me to go from Black to Yellow on my F3. The "Relatively" inexpensive accessories will bring them GOOD $$$.

Will they sell Out??? OR will you get one for $1,000-1,500 off Next Fall will be interesting for sure?

Saluda
11-23-2018, 09:13 AM
:agree::agree:...……… The profit margin on the Rykers has to be much, much smaller than any other Spyder.... You might get lucky and have free prep thrown in ………….jmho ….. Mike :thumbup:

A dealer told me $ 400.00 per unit with a $ 10,000.00 buy in for the display. Also required to maintain certain stock.

Highwayman2013
11-23-2018, 09:56 AM
My dealer said the margin was thin on the Rykers, they will make it up on the accessories.

cueman
11-28-2018, 08:59 PM
Well, I'm going to the Ryker show tomorrow in Pittsburg and if I like what I see, I'm buying the Rally Edition. :yes: cueman

ARtraveler
11-28-2018, 10:20 PM
Reminder: It did not happen without a picture or three. :yes:

cueman
11-28-2018, 10:50 PM
Not sure if I can post pics here, but I'll try.

Winnex3
11-28-2018, 11:22 PM
man i wish i could go take a lot of picks and let us know what you think Rally Edition all the way

cueman
11-29-2018, 10:57 AM
Thank You Winnex3, You are the one that hooked me up with the dealer that gave me a super deal! :2thumbs: I will take pictures tonight and if I can't figure out how to post them I will find somebody that can. It may take me a day or two to find a younger and smarter person to help. LOL cueman:cheers:

old Timer
11-30-2018, 06:12 AM
When ever I run across the title of a thread on any forum that is similar to this one or conveys the same thinking as this one, it bugs me.


Any dealers selling Rykers less than MSRP w/ no setup or freight fees?

What is really being asked is, sell me a, fill in the blank, but with out any profit............but still provide service or warranty requirements or???

How is a dealer supposed to stay in business? There is a lot more to buying a _________ than getting the cheapest price. I am not saying let any seller gouge you, but working with a dealer is a two way street. Dealers that don't understand this should go by the wayside. Potential customers should understand this as well.

Just my $.02 worth after being involved since the early 70's

cueman
11-30-2018, 12:26 PM
I didn’t say “without any profit”. As a consumer, I have the right to seek and negotiate my best deal. Dealer has the right to accept, denie, or the opportunity to negotiate their best deal. This is America, the country I love. Regards, cueman

cueman
11-30-2018, 02:38 PM
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11-30-2018, 02:39 PM
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11-30-2018, 02:45 PM
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cueman
11-30-2018, 03:35 PM
I apologize for the repeat pics. I have some more, but it took me so long to get this far that I need a break. LOL cueman

old Timer
11-30-2018, 04:27 PM
I didn’t say “without any profit”. As a consumer, I have the right to seek and negotiate my best deal. Dealer has the right to accept, denie, or the opportunity to negotiate their best deal. This is America, the country I love. Regards, cueman

I agree 100%. :cheers:

Winnex3
11-30-2018, 08:11 PM
Sweet cueman very nice how did the army green look up close did I make the right choice what was your overall thoughts of the Ryker

cueman
11-30-2018, 11:18 PM
They had loud music and colored lights and I could not tell that wasn’t just black. Upon up close inspection I could tell it was the beautiful green with the star. Yes, you made the correct decision IMO. I sat on both the Rally and the regular 900. I weigh about 250lbs. and I could definitely tell the Rally’s suspension with the KYB adj. shocks is the way to go. I kinda jumped around and stood up on the pegs and gave the Ryker a good shaking and it felt surprisingly tight & right. The Single sided swing arm was also tight & right as I grabbed the rear tire and gave it a good shaking and no slop or play. IMHO this thing is a stout little bugger. What I didn’t like were the foot pegs. I like the adjustability, just not the pegs. An easy fix though, with something like the Fast Way pegs I had on my BMW. If I had to think of something else that I was not crazy about it would be the hand grips were too small diameter for my big hands. They did not start the engine so I can’t speak to that. I would have loved to put it through its paces but didn’t have the opportunity. Any other questions just ask. I’ll do my best to give honest answers IMO. :chat: cueman

Winnex3
12-01-2018, 01:49 AM
sweet

Tslepebull
01-05-2019, 05:20 PM
I signed the papers on a Rally model in yellow shock today. I added the top case and windshield and my final price was $12,344.17 OTD; including all taxes and fees. The dealer said it was the first one he had sold and discounted both the bike and accessories from MSRP.


Ryker Rally $10,534
Top case $179
Wind screen $179

Freight $350
Set up $170


Tax, Title, Inspection and License $932.17

Wijames
01-10-2019, 11:01 PM
Went in today to put a deposit down on a Rally. Final numbers
Rally - 10500
Freight -640
Setup - 200
Fees/titles - 309
Tax - 587

I think I should check a couple of other dealers. Based on what I see from others here, my freight and setup is high…

BLUEKNIGHT911
01-11-2019, 12:06 AM
Went in today to put a deposit down on a Rally. Final numbers
Rally - 10500
Freight -640
Setup - 200
Fees/titles - 309
Tax - 587

I think I should check a couple of other dealers. Based on what I see from others here, my freight and setup is high…

This isn't about the Ryker , but about the freight and set-up fee's …. I bought a new RT … I paid NO fee's and NO freight …. also No Title or Tax because I was registering it in My home State - VT...………….. Mike :thumbup:

Severnpaul
01-11-2019, 07:20 AM
I put down a deposit yesterday on a 900, no freight or PDI just licence and tax.

Wijames
01-11-2019, 10:13 AM
I was thinking the freight and setup was high. Looks like I might need to shop around a little. I have 5 dealers within 2 hours of my house.

HongKongPhooey
01-11-2019, 10:42 AM
Having worked in the industry up til 2012, I will not pay retail, if I can't get at least a couple hundred off and no junk fees (freight,prep documentation etc..), I'm out, it's just another toy and I already have plenty. Thankfully, I'm in good standing with my local Can Am dealer and know the guys well, I'm pretty sure they'll take care of me, I've bought at least 5 bikes from them.

GoandChase
01-11-2019, 02:37 PM
I got my Ryker for MSRP + $50. No set up or delivery fees. Taxes and title I paid to the DMV.

Markubis
01-11-2019, 04:18 PM
The dealer in my area has 50 Rykers on order, and I was put on the list to get a call when they are delivered and I can look at one in person.

Route 3A Motorsports in Chelmsford MA

Winnex3
01-11-2019, 06:45 PM
The dealer in my area has 50 Rykers on order, and I was put on the list to get a call when they are delivered and I can look at one in person.

Route 3A Motorsports in Chelmsford MA my dealer ordered 46 I was the first to put a deposit on one a rally that was back in October 8th mine has still not came in and I have not seen one In person yet I was told maybe next week ��all I can do is just wait it out and keep reading everyone’s reviews can’t wait for it to show up

cueman
01-12-2019, 12:36 AM
Man, I feel for ya Winnex. Hope you get it soon! Even if you can't Ryde it you can still have fun like I do, looking at it and adjusting it to fit and planning all the farkles you need to make it your own. :cheers: cueman

Winnex3
01-12-2019, 05:20 AM
Man, I feel for ya Winnex. Hope you get it soon! Even if you can't Ryde it you can still have fun like I do, looking at it and adjusting it to fit and planning all the farkles you need to make it your own. :cheers: cueman thanks cueman keep up with the good reviews it sounds like you have no regrets and you love it

cueman
01-12-2019, 11:42 AM
I have been sick for over a week now and haven’t even been playing with it much. I still think about it daily and hope the weather and my health get better so I can fully enjoy my Flying Monkey. Yes, I would buy it again. The smiles per miles is a wonderful thing. So is this forum! ;) cueman

gskinner
01-12-2019, 01:35 PM
I just put a deposit on a Ryker Rally today. $10,200 plus tax & tags, no dealer prep or freight. I may add a couple of accessories before I take delivery though.

Winnex3
01-12-2019, 02:16 PM
I have been sick for over a week now and haven’t even been playing with it much. I still think about it daily and hope the weather and my health get better so I can fully enjoy my Flying Monkey. Yes, I would buy it again. The smiles per miles is a wonderful thing. So is this forum! ;) cueman

Get well my friend :cheers:

Fire34
01-12-2019, 02:22 PM
As mentioned before the dealer I went thru back home said they are only making a couple of hundred on each bike, That would be nice but sincerely doubt iy.
Dave

Wijames
01-12-2019, 05:06 PM
10200 is a good deal. I ended up going to the dealer about 30 miles away. I got it for MSRP plus 100 in fees and they are going to drop it off at my house. They also offered 10% off accessories so I put down a deposit today on a Rally. Was also able to test drive one and I loved it. I was doing fishtails in the parking lot within minutes, the Ryker is going to get me in trouble. i should have gone to this dealer originally. When I walked in the guy remembered me from when my wife took the Can Am class and was easy to work with. I am still trying to see if I can get them to switch wheels with a 900 for me. I do not like the look of the Rally wheels but it was not a deal breaker.

newrideryker
01-31-2019, 08:57 AM
how long is the 2-year warranty promo good for?

QuasiMotard
01-31-2019, 09:55 AM
When ever I run across the title of a thread on any forum that is similar to this one or conveys the same thinking as this one, it bugs me.



What is really being asked is, sell me a, fill in the blank, but with out any profit............but still provide service or warranty requirements or???

How is a dealer supposed to stay in business? There is a lot more to buying a _________ than getting the cheapest price. I am not saying let any seller gouge you, but working with a dealer is a two way street. Dealers that don't understand this should go by the wayside. Potential customers should understand this as well.

Just my $.02 worth after being involved since the early 70's

:agree: Agreed. Everyone needs to turn a profit to stay in business. I generally don't mind paying full price (including the setup/prep fees), as long as the dealer is REALLY doing their job in those respects. Dealer selection and trust is the real issue... not the lowest dollar deal to be found. It's a case of penny-wise, pound-foolish.

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QM

QuasiMotard
01-31-2019, 10:07 AM
:agree: Agreed. Everyone needs to turn a profit to stay in business. I generally don't mind paying full price (including the setup/prep fees), as long as the dealer is REALLY doing their job in those respects. Dealer selection and trust is the real issue... not the lowest dollar deal to be found. It's a case of penny-wise, pound-foolish.

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QM

Another obvious point that I'll make, and then shut up is this... regarding the "service and warranty requirements" bit above. [My nerves are a little raw on the subject right now because of recent issues purchasing my Ryker]

Those dealers aren't working for free, so I take exception to that point. They are reimbursed by the manufacturer for recall/warranty work, so don't kid yourself there. We usually end up paying for the "freight and setup fees" somehow, somewhere. Any other routine maintenance issues are paid our of the customer's pocket, so again... the dealer isn't working for free.

The sales side pays for the salesmen, office staff, operating costs, and other general business overhead. The more that the dealer can make on the sale, then the more they can pour into THEIR business or employees. The only benefit the customer gets out of that arrangement is dealer stability and (hopefully) a better experience with the purchase/service/lather-rinse-repeat cycle.

Our wholesale consumer mentality makes us instinctively shop for the cheapest possible deal. The cheapest deal isn't always the right (best) one. It's give and take, quid pro quo.

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QM