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Triumphcycleman
09-21-2018, 08:30 AM
Thought I'd post some pictures of an undressed Ryker that was on display at the dealer conference. You can see the belt cover pretty well in a couple of the photos, and how minimalist it really is. Very simple, very clever design

Triumphcycleman
09-21-2018, 08:32 AM
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Thought I'd post some pictures of an undressed Ryker that was on display at the dealer conference. You can see the belt cover pretty well in a couple of the photos, and how minimalist it really is. Very simple, very clever design

Chupaca
09-21-2018, 09:10 AM
Great shots...:clap:and there you have it...bare cbones...:roflblack:

ottawa-rider
09-21-2018, 09:42 AM
It appears from these shots that the engine is installed longitudinally, is that correct?

Boilermaker
09-21-2018, 10:13 AM
No belt = no belt cover! Driveshaft cover only. :thumbup:

Spyderjuice
09-21-2018, 10:17 AM
Where does the gas tank go and where is the "gas cap" access?

Triumphcycleman
09-21-2018, 10:17 AM
Yes. The crank is aligned with the chassis, the CVT drive clutch runs straight off of it (see pictures from the rear) so there isn't much "loss", it goes thru the belt to the driven clutch pulley, which powers a very simple forward/reverse gear box. There is a lever on the left to select either F or R, and above, near your left knee, is a lever to lock it in "park". Of course the output shift of the gearbox turns the driveshaft to the rear differential. As for the 600 vs 900, it is simply a matter of 2 cylinders or 3.


It appears from these shots that the engine is installed longitudinally, is that correct?

Cruzr Joe
09-21-2018, 10:25 AM
There is no belt, it is shaft driven

Cruzr Joe

monkeyboymorton
09-21-2018, 10:25 AM
No belt = no belt cover! Driveshaft cover only. :thumbup:

I think he meant the cover for the CVT belt he mentioned in another post about maintenance. The big black plastic bit in photo 3 that looks like it's off the back of a washing machine!!

monkeyboymorton
09-21-2018, 10:28 AM
There is a lever on the left to select either F or R,

Does the lever have to be held in the reverse position is does it lock into reverse? I'm interested because I have a prosthetic left leg (full length) so couldn't operate it with my left foot, but I could reach it to move it into place with my hand I imagine.

Bob Denman
09-21-2018, 11:25 AM
:yikes: WOW! Nekkid Spyker!

:D Hubba Hubba! :yes::yes::yes:

Bob Denman
09-21-2018, 11:28 AM
There is no belt, it is shaft driven

Cruzr Joe

Shaft driven... with a CVT transmission!
(That IS belt-driven!)

Saluda
09-21-2018, 11:32 AM
Not even X rated.

Michaelscs
09-21-2018, 12:09 PM
There is no belt, it is shaft driven

Cruzr Joe

There is a belt from the drive clutch to the driven clutch (CVT Transmission). The driven clutch is connected to the gear case which drives the drive shaft to the rear wheel. See picture on this page: https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/experience/ryker/technologies.html

Boilermaker
09-21-2018, 12:18 PM
There is no belt, it is shaft driven

Cruzr Joe

Okay, okay! We get it! Cruzr Joe and I apologize for our possible misunderstanding. :bowdown: We don't know which cover the OP was talking about ,so I think we all know now that the CVT is belt-driven and the rear wheel is shaft-driven. Everybody can just move along now. :bdh:

Sarge707
09-21-2018, 12:21 PM
I'm hoping the Silver Grill (below Radiator) and 2 side grills near wheels will be add ons for the Normal Version because they really help the appearance No matter what color you choose. My dealer says I'm crazy to trade in the F3 BUT he got to the meeting Late and NEVER drove one?:dontknow:

asp125
09-21-2018, 12:27 PM
Does that whole upper assembly pivot up/forwards on the production model? That would greatly enhance access to the engine bay.

Wonder if some customizer will come up with a sleek swoopy racer (non-tractor) looking body panels, that would open up a whole new industry. More like their Sea Doo and Ski Doo lines.

Bob Denman
09-21-2018, 12:37 PM
Okay, okay! We get it! Cruzr Joe and I apologize for our possible misunderstanding. :bowdown: We don't know which cover the OP was talking about ,so I think we all know now that the CVT is belt-driven and the rear wheel is shaft-driven. Everybody can just move along now. :bdh:
You're not actually wrong... :D
The final drive is by shaft
The belt operated transmission is where things get a little bit "wonky"... :shocked:

Shaft drive, and belt transmission! :thumbup:


(Are you missing a strap for one of the hard saddlebags?)

Sarge707
09-21-2018, 12:54 PM
https://youtu.be/A1c7cU9NSeU

I Know the Basics of CVT but this Video Gave me a Pretty good idea of what changing a belt would entail . I Love the Ryker concept More every day!

SteveLaoyster
09-21-2018, 02:19 PM
Where does the gas tank go and where is the "gas cap" access?
I've been looking at the pictures too trying to figure out where the gas tank is and where to fill it.:dontknow::dontknow:

SteveLaoyster
09-21-2018, 02:24 PM
And what's with no lug nuts???:yikes: Do the wheels slide onto a splined axle and held on with a single nut and safety pin?

ARtraveler
09-21-2018, 02:53 PM
You're not actually wrong... :D
The final drive is by shaft
The belt operated transmission is where things get a little bit "wonky"... :shocked:

Shaft drive, and belt transmission! :thumbup:


(Are you missing a strap for one of the hard saddlebags?)



Early information stated that there is only ONE saddlebag due to the shaft guard on the left side. We joked about it in an early thread--but I don't know if the issue was totally resolved. :thumbup:

Rob Rodriguez
09-21-2018, 03:16 PM
I've been looking at the pictures too trying to figure out where the gas tank is and where to fill it.:dontknow::dontknow:

There is a cover under the handle bars that slides back toward the seat to expose the gas fill. There is no actual cap.

Mikey
09-21-2018, 03:50 PM
Looks like $10,000 to me!! May be fun to yank around the hood, but you get what you pay for!!:thumbup:

superbee24
09-21-2018, 04:26 PM
Just a thought......

Am I the only one who noticed that the Rally model has only a small "splash" fender over the rear tire and the regular one has a full fender?

Seems like the off road model would just make a mess of the underside with the shorter fender.

Rob Rodriguez
09-21-2018, 05:08 PM
Just a thought......

Am I the only one who noticed that the Rally model has only a small "splash" fender over the rear tire and the regular one has a full fender?

Seems like the off road model would just make a mess of the underside with the shorter fender.

I think its done that way because the Rally model comes with the rear support (which holds the 2nd seat, top case) and that acts as a fender. The non Rally does not come with the rear support so without the full rear fender there would be no protection.

I might also venture a guess that the extra 1" of suspension travel on the Rally wouldn't work if both the rear support and the full rear fender were there?

superbee24
09-21-2018, 05:17 PM
You are probably correct. I know you can put the support on the regular model.
Maybe the 1" travel is what makes the difference.
Just had not noticed the difference myself until today.

All good. I see a Rally Model in my future.......

Bob Denman
09-22-2018, 07:18 AM
And what's with no lug nuts???:yikes: Do the wheels slide onto a splined axle and held on with a single nut and safety pin?
For only $8500: they had to save money somehow! :dontknow:
And we all know how expensive those lug nuts are! :roflblack:

IWN2RYD
09-22-2018, 08:02 AM
:yikes: WOW! Nekkid Spyker!

:D Hubba Hubba! :yes::yes::yes:

Not a Spyker or Spyder.

Ryker!

166023


:roflblack::shemademe_smilie::ohyea:

Bob Denman
09-22-2018, 08:30 AM
:D I was just missing the two names together for some fun! :roflblack:

Triumphcycleman
09-22-2018, 10:18 AM
A CVT transmission uses a belt running between a drive and driven pulley. That Is what the belt cover is covering



No belt = no belt cover! Driveshaft cover only. :thumbup:

SpyderGTL
09-22-2018, 10:50 AM
Are the brakes “fly by wire” - no hard brake linkage like on the F3? Seems like that would be the easiest way to make the right peg/brake pedal quickly adjustable.

Triumphcycleman
09-22-2018, 11:33 AM
Yes it is shaft driven from a gearbox that receives its rotation from a CVT (which is a belt running between two pulleys and acts as an infinite selection gear ratio unit) So.... YES there is a belt on this bike, and if you look at the pictures I posted you can see the big, black CVT cover which hides the two clutch sheaths and the BELT). That you can't see is the Forward/Reverse gearbox from which the driveshaft exits, runs thru the rear swingarm, and back to the rear differential. That how it works


There is no belt, it is shaft driven

Cruzr Joe

Triumphcycleman
09-22-2018, 11:38 AM
The brakes are not fly by wire, they are conventional hydraulic (but ABS). The difference from the F3 is the entire master cylinder moves with the foot peg assembly rather than a fixed mount and brake rod (F3). One of the videos I saw posted has the guy moving the right peg, and adjusting the brake pedal and you can see how long the brake hoses are, which allows the movement.


Are the brakes “fly by wire” - no hard brake linkage like on the F3? Seems like that would be the easiest way to make the right peg/brake pedal quickly adjustable.

Boilermaker
09-22-2018, 12:12 PM
A CVT transmission uses a belt running between a drive and driven pulley. That Is what the belt cover is covering

Yeah. I noted that in post #15.

Sarge707
09-22-2018, 02:47 PM
You are probably correct. I know you can put the support on the regular model.
Maybe the 1" travel is what makes the difference.
Just had not noticed the difference myself until today.

All good. I see a Rally Model in my future.......

I have been hovering over the specs and the 600 GC = 4.1 900 GC= 4.0 Rally GC= 4.4 So Its Not a Inch the Base F3 is 4.5 for comparison. The Rally Rear tire is 205/55/15 vs 205/45/16 for 600 & 900? So .4 higher with shorter Rear tire.
The Rally front shocks have preload adjustment so that could add or subtract some height (I Think?) .

Bob Denman
09-22-2018, 04:50 PM
The overall height may be pretty darn hear the same, but the Rally has less wheel, and more sidewall.
(It'll soak up bumps better!)

Joel The Biker
10-04-2018, 11:05 PM
And still nobody has indicated where the fuel tank is. Only the fuel fill area. I dont see any room for a tank, but I know it doesnt run on air.

PW2013STL
10-05-2018, 06:13 AM
And still nobody has indicated where the fuel tank is. Only the fuel fill area. I dont see any room for a tank, but I know it doesnt run on air.

Joel,

The fuel tank is just below the handle bars.
It's attached to the upper part that is raised in the air in the first picture.

GaryTheBadger
10-05-2018, 07:53 AM
Does the lever have to be held in the reverse position is does it lock into reverse? I'm interested because I have a prosthetic left leg (full length) so couldn't operate it with my left foot, but I could reach it to move it into place with my hand I imagine.


The lever stays in whichever position you put it in, forward or reverse, no need to hold it in place.
However, as I recall from my test-ryde, it may be too far to reach with your arm. Perhaps
there should be an ADA-focused person on Can-Am's design team to keep these things in mind.

GaryTheBadger
10-05-2018, 08:09 AM
Where does the gas tank go and where is the "gas cap" access?

There's a sliding cover on top, which reveals the capless fuel port. No key, no tools, no cap.

jaherbst
10-05-2018, 08:39 AM
Thought I'd post some pictures of an undressed Ryker that was on display at the dealer conference. You can see the belt cover pretty well in a couple of the photos, and how minimalist it really is. Very simple, very clever design

Undressed it kinda looks like it was built in China!

Jack

monkeyboymorton
10-05-2018, 01:36 PM
The lever stays in whichever position you put it in, forward or reverse, no need to hold it in place.
However, as I recall from my test-ryde, it may be too far to reach with your arm. Perhaps
there should be an ADA-focused person on Can-Am's design team to keep these things in mind.

Thanks for the reply, if it stays in place then I could probably lift my leg to move the lever with my artificial foot.

Really looking forward to a test drive of one of these next year.

Dubliner
10-05-2018, 03:18 PM
With the Tupperware removed it appears to be a very clean and minimal design. Unlike the Chinese and Japanese machines where you have to remove a lot of pieces to get to the real heart of the matter.
Thanks for the photos, I seem to remember from somewhere that the reverse lever is easy to access with your left hand. I’m sure BRP would have looked into that as many of their customers are veterans with challenges.

Dubliner
10-05-2018, 03:29 PM
Here is a video with test ride and start up sequence is midway.
https://youtu.be/6PTx_bkouBc

Sarge707
10-05-2018, 04:37 PM
If you have one at your dealership could you "Look" underneath the front end to see if the sway bar will be easy to replace without lifting it over 2 feet like the late model Spyders?

Peteoz
10-05-2018, 05:31 PM
Thanks for the reply, if it stays in place then I could probably lift my leg to move the lever with my artificial foot.

Really looking forward to a test drive of one of these next year.

Monkeyboy.....sorry, I’m heading out now and don’t have time to look for it, but I saw a video showing some one manipulating the reverse lever as part of a demo or test ride. Have a bit of a general video search and you might find it, otherwise I’ll have a look when I get home. It IS out there.

Pete

monkeyboymorton
10-06-2018, 12:49 PM
Monkeyboy.....sorry, I’m heading out now and don’t have time to look for it, but I saw a video showing some one manipulating the reverse lever as part of a demo or test ride. Have a bit of a general video search and you might find it, otherwise I’ll have a look when I get home. It IS out there.

Pete

Cheers Pete, thanks for the heads up. Had a look round but can't find that one and I've Just been through about a dozen test rides on you tube!!

So if you do track it back down I'd be grateful as I kept hoping someone would demo the reverse lever.

.

CarolinaSpyderRyder
10-14-2018, 11:48 PM
The lever stays in whatever position you put it in... and I used my hand to move it.166503

Zamani
03-07-2020, 03:32 PM
did the photos get removed? would really like to see them...

cueman
03-07-2020, 04:07 PM
did the photos get removed? would really like to see them...

Do a you tube search for Ryker and you will get all the info. you can probably stand. :thumbup: cueman

old Timer
03-08-2020, 11:13 AM
Some one must of removed the pics that you alluded to.....:shemademe_smilie:

Posting a link would be great.

Peter Aawen
03-08-2020, 03:58 PM
Some one must of removed the pics that you alluded to.....:shemademe_smilie:

Posting a link would be great.

This thread was started way back in Sept 2018, before there were too many Rykers on the streets & few had seen them in the flesh.... IIRC the pics shown were hosted elsewhere & linked in the OP - and I'd guess that for whatever reason, the pics on the host site have been moved/removed or the links otherwise garbaged!! :gaah: So if you want to see any nekkid Rykers, cueman's suggestion re a search on youtube is probably your best bet. :ohyea:

That ^^ highlights just some of the hazards with 'linking' pics hosted elsewhere instead of using the 'Manage Attachments' facility provided by the Forum platform - if you link to pics hosted elsewhere you rely on the host site never changing their location &/or otherwise altering anything (or holding your pics to ransom like photobucket did a while back! :shocked: ) AND you have all the hassles of making sure you get the sizes right & your readers/viewers will often have to select each pic individually to see them all, plus you'll never know if all your potential readers/viewers have devices that can adequately display those pics..... :sour:

But if you use the 'Manage Attachments' facility, all that becomes moot - the facility loads up your selected images & displays thumbnails that most viewers can see readily, so no sizing issues there; and if they want to look at all of your pics, clicking on & opening any one of those thumbnails will open all the pics in that post (5 per post limit I believe, so if yo uh have more, just put up another post. ;) ) & allow your viewers to scroll thru them as they see fit! :thumbup: And the pics will always be available for all to see... well, unless the Forum has a major issue, in which case we've all got other viewing & posting concerns anyway! ;)

chris56
03-09-2020, 02:04 AM
naked she looks really "sexy" ..:joke: I hope to get no problems with this

Peter Aawen
03-09-2020, 02:52 AM
Geez, I dunno Chris?? :dontknow:

One of our Rules is Rule 11. Don't post links or content related to Porn/Nudity...!! :lecturef_smilie:


:joke: :roflblack:


That said, there's really not a whole heap to see of them once all the Tupperware & wheels are stripped off, is there?! :shocked:

MDLNB
03-09-2020, 05:20 AM
naked she looks really "sexy" ..:joke: I hope to get no problems with this

The engine itself looks tiny compared to the rest of the stuff connected to it.

old Timer
03-09-2020, 06:39 AM
Thanks Peter.

Thanks for the pic Chris.

Markubis
03-09-2020, 07:12 AM
naked she looks really "sexy" ..:joke: I hope to get no problems with this

you should have warned us with a NSFW title!



*stuffs dollar bills into the Rykers intakes

MDLNB
03-09-2020, 07:28 AM
you should have warned us with a NSFW title!



*stuffs dollar bills into the Rykers intakes

Not the gas tank?

chris56
03-09-2020, 09:32 AM
OK .. she lookes better with this new Dakar-Rally ourfit ..

rocinante54
03-09-2020, 01:10 PM
I'm signed in, but not seeing the photos or links.....

cueman
03-09-2020, 01:23 PM
OK .. she lookes better with this new Dakar-Rally ourfit ..

I’m really liking that Dakar look. I wonder if there will be a wrap for that? :dontknow: cueman

chris56
03-09-2020, 02:49 PM
I’m really liking that Dakar look. I wonder if there will be a wrap for that? :dontknow: cueman

its painted - made from a Swiss dealer (design is from an old Porsche racing car..)

Peter Aawen
03-09-2020, 05:14 PM
I'm signed in, but not seeing the photos or links.....

As mentioned earlier on this page rocinante (post #53) it seems the links to all the earlier pics have gone - either moved/lost by the owner or the host site. So you won't get to see those. :sour:

However, you should be able to see the pics from Chris56, in posts #54 & #60 - if you can't see those, it's most likely going to be something to do with the set-up on your device, as everyone else seems to be seeing them OK?! Maybe you could try turning it off & then on again; &/or clearing all your cookies & history?! :dontknow:

PM me if you are still having problems... :thumbup:

cueman
03-09-2020, 09:22 PM
Chris56, I gotta tell you man, that is my favorite looking Ryker that I’ve seen so far. That is beautiful! :cheers: cueman

acdcking12
03-10-2020, 02:46 PM
I am failing to see these pics.

IdahoMtnSpyder
03-11-2020, 08:47 AM
I am failing to see these pics.
Have you read the last 10 posts? It's all explained there. It's never a great idea to read only the first few posts in a thread and not following it through to the end if you're inclined to ask a question! You'll often miss relevant information.

Since08
03-11-2020, 10:51 AM
Found one pic.....