Had a wreck on my Wing

[Warlock]

As everyone knows I just went back to 2 wheels about a month ago. Friday around 7 pm was enjoying the ride and listening to music. Next thing I new hit a deer. Never seen it at all. Was running around 60 when I went down. Was able to get to my phone and call 911. Was really scared because both knees was hurting bad and 2 years ago had them both replaced. Going to spare all the details but God had his hands around me, I had all my riding gear on. Only thing I wished I had done different was better riding gloves. Right hand took a lot of road rash. Glove looked shredded. Went to ER and no broken bones or stitches. My slider jeans done their job alone with my Modular helmet and tour master mesh jacket. If I would have had better gloves thing would have been better. Bike minimum damage and can be fixed. The way the deer hit me if I had been on my Spyder I think the deer would have taken me out. Just thinking no proof on this. The main reason for this post is when I road my Spyder I would wear regular jeans with my other gear. Now that this happened I could never get on any bike or trike with the proper gear. My wounds ended like this. Rash to right hand and a little on left elbow. Payment ate thru the jacket their but not bad. Strawberry right shoulder and both knees with strawberry's. If not for the proper gear my knees would have been like hamburger meat. Helmet all skinned right side along with the face shield. If I had on a open face or skull helmet probably wouldn't have a right jaw. I have almost hit deer in the pass but this one I never seen it coming. Road was real close to the tree line and it must have been in a run when it hit me. Was a doe around 150 lbs and yes it killed the deer. So bottom line is is better to have the proper gear and hoping to never use it on need it and not have it on. I know the gear will not protect against breaks but the protection of the road rash. They call it rash but believe me that's not a proper name for it. So fellow riders be careful out there. I'm healing and waiting on insurance to look at the bike and as of right now plans on getting back on the Wing.
David

[jtonga]

Thank god you survived the crash with minimal injuries :pray:

[UtahPete]

Please explain why you think it would have been a worse outcome on the Spyder. Thanks

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Glad to hear that you are okay. (Relatively speaking...)
The best of luck in dealing with your insurance company! :thumbup:

[Fjrwillie]

As everyone knows I just went back to 2 wheels about a month ago. Friday around 7 pm was enjoying the ride and listening to music. Next thing I new hit a deer. Never seen it at all. Was running around 60 when I went down. Was able to get to my phone and call 911. Was really scared because both knees was hurting bad and 2 years ago had them both replaced. Going to spare all the details but God had his hands around me, I had all my riding gear on. Only thing I wished I had done different was better riding gloves. Right hand took a lot of road rash. Glove looked shredded. Went to ER and no broken bones or stitches. My slider jeans done their job alone with my Modular helmet and tour master mesh jacket. If I would have had better gloves thing would have been better. Bike minimum damage and can be fixed. The way the deer hit me if I had been on my Spyder I think the deer would have taken me out. Just thinking no proof on this. The main reason for this post is when I road my Spyder I would wear regular jeans with my other gear. Now that this happened I could never get on any bike or trike with the proper gear. My wounds ended like this. Rash to right hand and a little on left elbow. Payment ate thru the jacket their but not bad. Strawberry right shoulder and both knees with strawberry's. If not for the proper gear my knees would have been like hamburger meat. Helmet all skinned right side along with the face shield. If I had on a open face or skull helmet probably wouldn't have a right jaw. I have almost hit deer in the pass but this one I never seen it coming. Road was real close to the tree line and it must have been in a run when it hit me. Was a doe around 150 lbs and yes it killed the deer. So bottom line is is better to have the proper gear and hoping to never use it on need it and not have it on. I know the gear will not protect against breaks but the protection of the road rash. They call it rash but believe me that's not a proper name for it. So fellow riders be careful out there. I'm healing and waiting on insurance to look at the bike and as of right now plans on getting back on the Wing.
David

Yikes, glad things are relatively ok. Might have to rethink my apparel when on the Spyder. Kind of relaxed the gear from 2 wheels to 3.

Willie

[JayBros]

Best wishes for a swift and complete recovery. Deer strike at 60, you're a lucky guy.

[HayRog]

Please explain why you think it would have been a worse outcome on the Spyder. Thanks

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[Warlock]

Please explain why you think it would have been a worse outcome on the Spyder. Thanks

I use to ride a GS not as much protection as a RT. I forgot to mention that. Mt fairing kept the deer off me. At the height it hit me it would have went right thru my Madstad windshield and probably hit me in my chest. This is just a opinion and mine from my eyes view. I'm not saying the Spyder is way worst than any bike in a situation that I went thru. I think if I had been on a v twin with a winshield I would say the same thing as the Spyder. I believe with the fixed fairing on the Goldwing was a plus. Now just to make it to plainer I believe If I had been on a RT it would have protected me also. Might not have went down at all or could been worst. I will say between the 2 Spyders I would want to have been on a RT instead of my GS.
David

[Chupaca]

So glad you are here to tell us about even as beat up as you are. Heal well and hope it will be quick and as painless as possible...:pray:

[d.o.spyder-rts]

Sorry to hear about your accident and glad to hear you made it thru with minor injuries. Heal quickly. Dale

[Brentc]

Yes, someone was watching out for you and your here to tell us about it! Glad you made it through.

[Motorcycledave]

IT IS NOT IF YOU GO DOWN, IT'S WHEN.....
I rode motorcycles for 57 years before being T-Boned by a drunk.....
I had all the right stuff on as well and damn glad I did....
Happy you are only scratched up you will heal and it sounds like you
are in good spirits as well.
You have shown others that it is better safe than sorry.
Ride Safe
Dave




As everyone knows I just went back to 2 wheels about a month ago. Friday around 7 pm was enjoying the ride and listening to music. Next thing I new hit a deer. Never seen it at all. Was running around 60 when I went down. Was able to get to my phone and call 911. Was really scared because both knees was hurting bad and 2 years ago had them both replaced. Going to spare all the details but God had his hands around me, I had all my riding gear on. Only thing I wished I had done different was better riding gloves. Right hand took a lot of road rash. Glove looked shredded. Went to ER and no broken bones or stitches. My slider jeans done their job alone with my Modular helmet and tour master mesh jacket. If I would have had better gloves thing would have been better. Bike minimum damage and can be fixed. The way the deer hit me if I had been on my Spyder I think the deer would have taken me out. Just thinking no proof on this. The main reason for this post is when I road my Spyder I would wear regular jeans with my other gear. Now that this happened I could never get on any bike or trike with the proper gear. My wounds ended like this. Rash to right hand and a little on left elbow. Payment ate thru the jacket their but not bad. Strawberry right shoulder and both knees with strawberry's. If not for the proper gear my knees would have been like hamburger meat. Helmet all skinned right side along with the face shield. If I had on a open face or skull helmet probably wouldn't have a right jaw. I have almost hit deer in the pass but this one I never seen it coming. Road was real close to the tree line and it must have been in a run when it hit me. Was a doe around 150 lbs and yes it killed the deer. So bottom line is is better to have the proper gear and hoping to never use it on need it and not have it on. I know the gear will not protect against breaks but the protection of the road rash. They call it rash but believe me that's not a proper name for it. So fellow riders be careful out there. I'm healing and waiting on insurance to look at the bike and as of right now plans on getting back on the Wing.
David

[hollybry]

Oh wow! So glad you are okay! That is scary.

[ARtraveler]

As everyone knows I just went back to 2 wheels about a month ago. Friday around 7 pm was enjoying the ride and listening to music. Next thing I new hit a deer. Never seen it at all. Was running around 60 when I went down. Was able to get to my phone and call 911. Was really scared because both knees was hurting bad and 2 years ago had them both replaced. Going to spare all the details but God had his hands around me, I had all my riding gear on. Only thing I wished I had done different was better riding gloves. Right hand took a lot of road rash. Glove looked shredded. Went to ER and no broken bones or stitches. My slider jeans done their job alone with my Modular helmet and tour master mesh jacket. If I would have had better gloves thing would have been better. Bike minimum damage and can be fixed. The way the deer hit me if I had been on my Spyder I think the deer would have taken me out. Just thinking no proof on this. The main reason for this post is when I road my Spyder I would wear regular jeans with my other gear. Now that this happened I could never get on any bike or trike with the proper gear. My wounds ended like this. Rash to right hand and a little on left elbow. Payment ate thru the jacket their but not bad. Strawberry right shoulder and both knees with strawberry's. If not for the proper gear my knees would have been like hamburger meat. Helmet all skinned right side along with the face shield. If I had on a open face or skull helmet probably wouldn't have a right jaw. I have almost hit deer in the pass but this one I never seen it coming. Road was real close to the tree line and it must have been in a run when it hit me. Was a doe around 150 lbs and yes it killed the deer. So bottom line is is better to have the proper gear and hoping to never use it on need it and not have it on. I know the gear will not protect against breaks but the protection of the road rash. They call it rash but believe me that's not a proper name for it. So fellow riders be careful out there. I'm healing and waiting on insurance to look at the bike and as of right now plans on getting back on the Wing.
David

Your comments are right on and I recommend reading your full post at least a couple times. It gives us a lot to think about when it comes to riding gear selection. I sometimes wear fingerless gloves and non-Kevlar riding jeans while on my bikes. I have two spyders and one two wheeler.

I am going to re-think some of my ATGATT stuff. The big problem, you never know where or when--and then it is to late.

I have dodged Moose a couple times in 18 years. And I have dodged bear a couple times. The last bear encounter was a couple weeks ago. A mom and two cubs ran across the Glenn Hwy (major traffic). Two lanes each way (65-75 mph) and a big center median. The bears just zoomed across all four lanes. Lucky that most drivers were observant, we slowed down, but there were no close calls on that incident. One of the bears took a big crap as it was running across my lane--so I had to also dodge that.

Like they used to say on "Hill Street Blues...""Be safe out there."

[Warlock]

After reading some many people telling about ATGATT and now I have been thru it. No one knows when accidents will happen. Riding is a danger within itself. Knowing now is why ATGATT is very important. My right hand too a beating due to me not wearing a better pair of gloves. Bad way to learn a lesson but at least I was smart enough on my other gear.
David

[Tango]

Glad your ok. Could have been a lot worse. :thumbup: Tom :spyder:

[Vader]

Glad to hear you're relatively okay. But, no matter what I ride, it's ATGATT.
Just the way I am. No judging.

[bmccaffrey]

glad u are ok :pray::pray:

[wingit3611]

I would say your thinking is correct. My nephew got caught by a deer on a Harley with no windshield at all, at a much slower speed [45]. Hit him in the chest and burst his aorta. Wife on the back was just fine. Just few scrapes. Devine providents (God) holds us in the palm of his hand.
Glad to hear you got thru it and keep a positive attitude. God Bless.



I use to ride a GS not as much protection as a RT. I forgot to mention that. Mt fairing kept the deer off me. At the height it hit me it would have went right thru my Madstad windshield and probably hit me in my chest. This is just a opinion and mine from my eyes view. I'm not saying the Spyder is way worst than any bike in a situation that I went thru. I think if I had been on a v twin with a winshield I would say the same thing as the Spyder. I believe with the fixed fairing on the Goldwing was a plus. Now just to make it to plainer I believe If I had been on a RT it would have protected me also. Might not have went down at all or could been worst. I will say between the 2 Spyders I would want to have been on a RT instead of my GS.
David

[mark4Jesus]

Praise the Lord you were not hurt worse! Even on the Spyder, I still were all my gear. Well, most of the time. When it's in the mid 90's I have on occasion not wore my mesh jacket.

[fraugher]

So sorry about your accident, and glad your recovery seems optimistic !

Hottest summer I can remember and had no problem following ATGATT, so much good ventilated gear these days. Have much more trouble convincing my "not regular" passengers.

[oldgoat]

For the first 5 years of Spyder riding I wore all leather. This past summer I started to wear jeans. Now I will rethink that for next year. I ride a 2008 GS.
Hope you heal quickly.

[Warlock]

For the first 5 years of Spyder riding I wore all leather. This past summer I started to wear jeans. Now I will rethink that for next year. I ride a 2008 GS.
Hope you heal quickly.

This will be my next jeans.
https://www.gusset.com/jeans/defender/defender-motorcycle-jean-blue
David

[Road-Kill]

I t-boned a deer two years ago at 30MPH on a previous bike.
Same situation as yours regarding the tree line next to the road.
No injuries but $1,000 in damages.
With that said...... I still wear only comfortable attire. (t-shirt, shorts)
When "fear" plays into my riding then I'll know its time to change hobbies.

[Two cats]

I t-boned a deer two years ago at 30MPH on a previous bike.
Same situation as yours regarding the tree line next to the road.
No injuries but $1,000 in damages.
With that said...... I still wear only comfortable attire. (t-shirt, shorts)
When "fear" plays into my riding then I'll know its time to change hobbies.
That's a good quote. I don't want to ride all bundled up in the summer. Winter is ok. All we wear is our jeans and and tee shirts. I've had 3 bike wrecks and still dress for the weather conditions. If the time comes to go meet my maker.Then it don't matter what you have on. But to each their own. HAPPY TRAILS

[Flanker]

Glad to hear your injuries were no worse than they were! Bike/trike/deer crashes are always a bitch no matter what. Best wishes on a speedy and full recovery--------good on you for not letting this get you down or deter your future riding plans! :thumbup:

[WA5VHU]

What kind of gloves were you wearing? What do you think are better gloves?

[AY4B]

I led a ride this weekend in the Ozarks. Yesterday coming off Mt Magazine one of our members saw a deer and panicked. She was in a hairpin turn and crashed. Badly broken leg and still in a hospital in Russellville. Please pray for her and her husband who is handeling all the details.

[Warlock]

What kind of gloves were you wearing? What do you think are better gloves?

I was using a cheap around $20.00 kinda like air flex gloves. Does great until you need them. This is the set I ordered.
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/cortech-impulse-st-gloves
David

[drhunt204]

Wow! I'm so glad you were able to survive an accident with a deer on your bike. Prayers that you recover quickly. Your post is a great cautionary tale of how we should wear our protective gear while riding. I ride and live in the Missouri Ozarks where the deer population outnumber the human population. I have hit three deer while in a vehicle but never on a bike (one very close call but we just missed each other)! I remember being told that the most dangerous animal in North America is the white tailed deer because it is responsible for more deaths due to traffic accidents than any other animal.

[UtahPete]

I led a ride this weekend in the Ozarks. Yesterday coming off Mt Magazine one of our members saw a deer and panicked. She was in a hairpin turn and crashed. Badly broken leg and still in a hospital in Russellville. Please pray for her and her husband who is handeling all the details.
How do you crash a Spyder?

[rodentrancher]

Good for the OP for having (mostly) good gear on. Undoubtedly saved him from being hurt much worse.

And for the commenters who seem to be relying on divine providence instead of protective gear - I've never seen any evidence that God will protect you from the consequences of your own choices.

I figure God did his part by giving us brains - if we get hurt because we don't use them, that's on us.

[Warlock]

Good for the OP for having (mostly) good gear on. Undoubtedly saved him from being hurt much worse.

And for the commenters who seem to be relying on divine providence instead of protective gear - I've never seen any evidence that God will protect you from the consequences of your own choices.

I figure God did his part by giving us brains - if we get hurt because we don't use them, that's on us.

Thanks for the reply. The commend about being scared is way wrong. My gear saved me so I could ride again. No hospital stay ans just plain smart planning. I can enjoy my ride just as good with my riding gear on as the ones with flip flops, tee shirt and shorts. Difference is what happened to me and able to be writing this comment. I know looking at my helmet ,modular, if I would have had any other helmet I would probably be missing my right lower jaw. That is not being scared but smart. I like your remark about divine protection. Will post a picture later of the helmet and gloves.
David

[Road-Kill]

When I look at my club I notice maybe 5-10% wear body armor.
Most own body armor but will not wear it because its uncomfortable, so why buy it?
I own body armor but stopped wearing it for the same reasons.
Rather than "talk" about body armor and not wear it I "talk" about riding safety.
Prevention is worth a pound of cure.

If I do succumb to a fatale injury and the good lord lets me into his kingdom I will ask for internet access.
The good lord will ask why? …….and I will tell him its to post on Spyderlovers and bust more balls....cause its just fun.:yes:


That's a good quote. I don't want to ride all bundled up in the summer. Winter is ok. All we wear is our jeans and and tee shirts. I've had 3 bike wrecks and still dress for the weather conditions. If the time comes to go meet my maker.Then it don't matter what you have on. But to each their own. HAPPY TRAILS

[Warlock]

When I look at my club I notice maybe 5-10% wear body armor.
Most own body armor but will not wear it because its uncomfortable, so why buy it?
I own body armor but stopped wearing it for the same reasons.
Rather than "talk" about body armor and not wear it I "talk" about riding safety.
Prevention is worth a pound of cure.

If I do succumb to a fatale injury and the good lord lets me into his kingdom I will ask for internet access.
The good lord will ask why? …….and I will tell him its to post on Spyderlovers and bust more balls....cause its just fun.:yes:

When I ride with a group we all talk about riding safe and ride within your ability. Watching idiots driver, road condition is a must. Deer, trees falling, etc is a completely different matter. I try and plan for the "What if" I know reading your post it will not make you wear gear. I only pray for good riding and always 3 tires down.
David

[Warlock]

Pictures of some of my gear. First is my right glove and next is the left glove. And different pictures of riding gear.165448165450165451165452165453

[Road-Kill]

I'm not against safety gear.
Those pictures tell me that gear took some of the injuries away from you.
I'm saying that for me and most riders safety gear takes away from the whole point of feeling the freedom.
Without that freedom I don't see the point.


Pictures of some of my gear. First is my right glove and next is the left glove. And different pictures of riding gear.165448165450165451165452165453

[Warlock]

I'm not against safety gear.
Those pictures tell me that gear took some of the injuries away from you.
I'm saying that for me and most riders safety gear takes away from the whole point of feeling the freedom.
Without that freedom I don't see the point.

Your and my way of looking at freedom are different. Wearing my gear no way takes away from my freedom were as it does with you. All have different views and I respect your input. It's funny how we think on things. You feel freedom taken away and me it doesn't bother me. I guess we can agree to disagree. Ride safe and may God be with you. Oh by the way my gear saved me a lot. The doctor told my wife that it saved my life.
David

[rodentrancher]

Warlock, thanks for posting the pics.

I've wondered how well modular helmets would handle chin bar impacts (as opposed to regular full-face helmets). Based on your experience, the answer seems to be
"Pretty darn well".

Might have to get a modular next time around, would make dealing with my eyeglasses easier.

[Warlock]

Warlock, thanks for posting the pics.

I've wondered how well modular helmets would handle chin bar impacts (as opposed to regular full-face helmets). Based on your experience, the answer seems to be
"Pretty darn well".

Might have to get a modular next time around, would make dealing with my eyeglasses easier.

I wear glasses also. The helmet I was wearing also carries a European standard test code that is better than the DOT test. I was getting headaches with my Cmax helmet due to it's weight. The LS2 is much lighter and just ordered another one just like it. I noticed in one picture that it looks like it doesn't match well from the side view. I didn't have it latched on that picture.
David

[gerald37]

Your and my way of looking at freedom are different. Wearing my gear no way takes away from my freedom were as it does with you. All have different views and I respect your input. It's funny how we think on things. You feel freedom taken away and me it doesn't bother me. I guess we can agree to disagree. Ride safe and may God be with you. Oh by the way my gear saved me a lot. The doctor told my wife that it saved my life.
David
I totally agree with you. When I was riding two wheel I did always were protective gear. After having the Spyder I started getting more relaxed and stop wearing the clothing but have never gave up the helmet but did start wearing an open face helmet. After reading about your accident I am rethinking about the gear to wear. I have never thought about it being so uncomfortable. It was more the inconvenience of putting it on and off. I believe I would rather that inconvenience than the inconvenience of being laid up or killed. I never use to ever ride without armored jacket and gloves. When ever traveling I wore the armored pants but not all the time. I am going to look into the armored jeans and maybe start wearing them. In Iowa we do not have the helmet law and you see so many people not wearing them. Again most Spyder riders in my area do not wear protect gear. I had one Harley rider tell me they don't dress to wreck they dress to ride.

[AY4B]

165458
How do you crash a Spyder?
Accidents happen.

[Warlock]

I totally agree with you. When I was riding two wheel I did always were protective gear. After having the Spyder I started getting more relaxed and stop wearing the clothing but have never gave up the helmet but did start wearing an open face helmet. After reading about your accident I am rethinking about the gear to wear. I have never thought about it being so uncomfortable. It was more the inconvenience of putting it on and off. I believe I would rather that inconvenience than the inconvenience of being laid up or killed. I never use to ever ride without armored jacket and gloves. When ever traveling I wore the armored pants but not all the time. I am going to look into the armored jeans and maybe start wearing them. In Iowa we do not have the helmet law and you see so many people not wearing them. Again most Spyder riders in my area do not wear protect gear. I had one Harley rider tell me they don't dress to wreck they dress to ride.

Here is the new riding pants I ordered. Read some good reviews. Not armored but Kevlar lined. My slider jeans was also lined.
https://www.gusset.com/jeans/defender
David

[Warlock]

165458
Accidents happen.
Looks like she has on riding pants, if she was the victim.Hope all went well.
David

[AY4B]

Looks like she has on riding pants, if she was the victim.Hope all went well.
David

Patsy Saw a deer and panicked. She is a fairly new ryder and instead of braking , she accelerated on a sharp curve and lost control. She has a badly broken leg an was in the Ambulance when I took this pic. She was transported to Russellville and has had surgery. This was in Arkansas soon after going down Mt Magazine. The ladies you see standing there were just part of our group. we were 14 total on the last day of a 3 day Ozark ryde Labor Day weekend.

[blacklightning]

Glad to hear that you made it out pretty well. I do wear a little less with the spyder than I do when riding the M109. For me it is because I tend to ride a little closer to the edge when on 2 wheels. But even on the spyder, I always wear closed toe shoes, armored jacket, and atleast a 3/4 or modular helmet. My biggest let downs is that I often wear fingerless gloves and just jeans. When on the M109 I always wear a modular or full helmet, armor, boots or 3/4 height shoes, and good gloves with armor in places. Again, I only wear jeans. After reading your post, I am going to consider getting some kevlar jeans.

[Warlock]

Patsy Saw a deer and panicked. She is a fairly new ryder and instead of braking , she accelerated on a sharp curve and lost control. She has a badly broken leg an was in the Ambulance when I took this pic. She was transported to Russellville and has had surgery. This was in Arkansas soon after going down Mt Magazine. The ladies you see standing there were just part of our group. we were 14 total on the last day of a 3 day Ozark ryde Labor Day weekend.

I hope she heals quickly. Everyone reacts different. I really don't know in the future how I will act when I see a deer. Riding gear to me is a no brainer, but you can still break bones. If I didn't have it on that night I would probably had a 4 or 5 day hospital stay. And was also thinking about how important my module helmet was. I had to call 911 myself and with a 3/4 helmet probably wouldn't have a jaw left. Then what would I have done. I've had time to think about the wreck and can see nothing be 100% view on my gear and why it is important to me and will never be caught without it.
David

[gerald37]

Has anyone ever purchased and used these jeans? They seem pretty reasonable. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079SFCSLK?pf_rd_p=d1f45e03-8b73-4c9a-9beb-4819111bef9a&pf (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079SFCSLK?pf_rd_p=d1f45e03-8b73-4c9a-9beb-4819111bef9a&pf_rd_r=3YR2DNY357QQXW925GA7)

[Psp501]

Glad to read that you are alright. Living in North Central, PA, we are constantly on the lookout for our furry friends. I wear ATTGATT and some of my friends give me grief about it, but it is my body, the only one the good Lord gave me. If you choose to ride with or without gear, that is your choice, but as your incident showed, gear sometimes makes the situation better.
Hope you get back to riding soon.

Bob
North Central, PA

[Warlock]

Has anyone ever purchased and used these jeans? They seem pretty reasonable. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079SFCSLK?pf_rd_p=d1f45e03-8b73-4c9a-9beb-4819111bef9a&pf (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079SFCSLK?pf_rd_p=d1f45e03-8b73-4c9a-9beb-4819111bef9a&pf_rd_r=3YR2DNY357QQXW925GA7)

I would say any effort for safety is a plus. My sliders only had the Kevlar in them and they worked. Still got strawberry on my knees but better than road rash.
David

[Warlock]

Glad to read that you are alright. Living in North Central, PA, we are constantly on the lookout for our furry friends. I wear ATTGATT and some of my friends give me grief about it, but it is my body, the only one the good Lord gave me. If you choose to ride with or without gear, that is your choice, but as your incident showed, gear sometimes makes the situation better.
Hope you get back to riding soon.

Bob
North Central, PA

Maybe a couple months. Healing and repairing the bike myself. Will post some pictures of before and after I get threw. Changing the color up some. Mine is dark grey and I'm doing away with the chrome and installing black.
David