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Gonzo5776
09-02-2018, 02:33 PM
Hi everyone,
Just curious, what oil you guys and gals run in your spyders and why?

Thank you and have a great day.

bodymanpainter
09-02-2018, 02:36 PM
Amsoil 10W40, I have used it in all my Spyders (4) and no problems and the transmissions all seamed to shift much smoother.

Toby

fjray
09-02-2018, 02:50 PM
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Soulman327
09-02-2018, 02:53 PM
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:


Exactly! :roflblack::roflblack:

(but I still read every one) :shocked:

Gonzo5776
09-02-2018, 02:54 PM
Amsoil 10W40, I have used it in all my Spyders (4) and no problems and the transmissions all seamed to shift much smoother.

Toby

Thanks for the option, XPS kits are pricey.

BoxyLady
09-02-2018, 03:04 PM
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Indeed :-) OP is going to get a LOT of answers to this and I hope it does not result in another locked thread. No clue why some folks are so passionate/stubborn about their oil choice being the only one that's valid.

My main comment to the OP is to ensure that a synthetic is used per the BRP recommendations in the owner's guide. Now, me, I use Amsoil in everything except my Z06. Chevrolet put Mobil 1 in it from the factory and I continue to use it for that car. I have read several independent (NOT paid for by lubrication interests) testing reports and have talked with two engine builders who tear down and build high compression engines for a living. As a result, Amsoil is the choice I made, but I really don't think you can go wrong with any synthetic oil made today. They are extremely good.

Also, I do NOT sell Amsoil, nor do I know anyone who does. I have always ordered directly off of their website......

JayBros
09-02-2018, 03:13 PM
Use whatever you want as long as it meets the API service specifications specified in your operators guide. Also do not add any oil additives or use oil meeting API service specification SM as warned on pg 95 of your operator's guide because it can cause clutch problems. Remember too that the only way you can tell how your oil is performing is to have it analyzed.

2dogs
09-02-2018, 04:38 PM
Amsoil 10W40.

Chupaca
09-02-2018, 10:56 PM
XPS Blend....get my kit on eBay at good prices shipped to my door free. :thumbup:

DGoebel
09-02-2018, 11:01 PM
Castrol Power RS Racing 4T 5W/40 with BajaRon Oil change kit, I get a good price and good oil wear reports, bike runs smooth.

Bob Denman
09-03-2018, 08:39 AM
I use Canola. nojoke
It makes my sweet potato fries taste better! :D

Gonzo5776
09-03-2018, 10:54 AM
I use Canola. nojoke
It makes my sweet potato fries taste better! :D

Lmao! :roflblack::clap:

Bob Denman
09-03-2018, 11:25 AM
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Sarge707
09-03-2018, 11:33 AM
Valvoline 10w40 Synthetic Motorcycle oil from Walmart at $6.75 a quart. Most important is Using a JASO M2 Rating and Not just Jaso . Unless you use BRP oil.

Gonzo5776
09-03-2018, 02:40 PM
Valvoline 10w40 Synthetic Motorcycle oil from Walmart at $6.75 a quart. Most important is Using a JASO M2 Rating and Not just Jaso . Unless you use BRP oil.

I like affordable! :thumbup::yes:

BoilerAnimal
09-03-2018, 02:47 PM
Valvoline 10w40 Synthetic Motorcycle oil from Walmart at $6.75 a quart. Most important is Using a JASO M2 Rating and Not just Jaso . Unless you use BRP oil.


+1!

Lamonster
09-03-2018, 03:25 PM
http://www.lamonstergarage.com/lamonster-998-full-synthetic-oil-change-kit-can-am-spyder-spectro-oil/

https://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-1dz5qu/products/351/images/1869/IMG_1687__54963.1512752263.1280.1280.JPG?c=2

Mr. White
09-03-2018, 03:56 PM
I use whatever my neighbor has in his garage when it is time to change my oil. :roflblack:

Gonzo5776
09-03-2018, 05:30 PM
I use whatever my neighbor has in his garage when it is time to change my oil. :roflblack:

Lol. I like ur style Mr. White! :clap::roflblack:

Gonzo5776
09-03-2018, 05:45 PM
http://www.lamonstergarage.com/lamonster-998-full-synthetic-oil-change-kit-can-am-spyder-spectro-oil/

https://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-1dz5qu/products/351/images/1869/IMG_1687__54963.1512752263.1280.1280.JPG?c=2

Thanks for the magnetic drain plugs btw.. Amazing product! :bowdown::2thumbs:

Deanna777
09-03-2018, 05:57 PM
I use the Valvoline Motorcycle Oil, 4T Stroke Full Synthetic, 10W-40. It has the Superior Wet Clutch protection, and it exceeds API SERVICES SJ/SG/SF, JASO MA2.

I have a 2014RTS-SE6, and I switched OEM oil to the above in 2015. I have been using the above oil since then with no issues.

Deanna

Wildrice
02-09-2019, 09:02 PM
I am truly amazed at how many Spyder riders have their motor oil analyized **. I'm not against it, I just know dozens & dozens of sport bike riders & racers who beat the hell out of their engines reving to 12K-15K rpm & above who never tested their oil--me either. Both of my engine failures were the valve seat melting out of the aluminum head--using NOS at the end of the 1 mile land speed run--the 1st crossed the finish line at 193 mph & the 2nd at 196 mph. I have no idea of the speed when the valve seat separated from the head but I doubt it was oil failure. Like I said--I have nothing against having it tested--maybe I'm learning something--the Spyder has a low power-low rpm engine. Maybe it saves the clutch.

SPYD3R
02-09-2019, 09:11 PM
VALVOLINE 4T FULL SYNTHETIC 10-40
i buy it from Walmarts web page... $7.37 per qt...

BLUEKNIGHT911
02-09-2019, 09:28 PM
VALVOLINE 4T FULL SYNTHETIC 10-40
i buy it from Walmarts web page... $7.37 per qt...

This Valvoline is what I used to use because ( it is great oil ) & I got a couple of cases at a fantastic price ….. I am now switching to the Shell Rotella T-6 ( which also is a superior oil ) because I got a few gallons at an even better price …..both of these oils are Full Synthetic ……………. Mike :ohyea:

Wildrice
02-10-2019, 10:10 AM
I use Extra Virgin Olive Oil because it matches my lifestyle..

tibadoe
02-10-2019, 10:34 AM
Already have Shell Rotella T-6 on my list.

bikerbillone
02-10-2019, 11:43 AM
So let me ask, which machine do you ride most and why. Thanks.

jcoats1
02-10-2019, 11:49 AM
YES, use it always, from Walmart. NO clutch problems....

007james
02-10-2019, 11:59 AM
I have used Full Synthetic Mobil One 10W-40 4T Motorcycle Racing Oil since my 3000 first Service. Doc Humphrey used it in his 2014 RT, so I followed his choice. I don’t care about the cost of the oil, considering 10,000 miles between oil changes. But the Reviews on this Oil are excellent, and it is recommended for Vehicles that share the same oil in tne engine and Tranny.

sandman53
02-11-2019, 08:19 AM
Shell Rotella T-6 Always !

BLUEKNIGHT911
02-11-2019, 06:58 PM
Shell Rotella T-6 Always !

Rotella has just repeated last years incredible deal ….. someone posted a LINK earlier …… Mike :ohyea:..Find my " Rotella Oil Rebate " thread...… and look @ post #9 for the LINK

Wildrice
02-14-2019, 10:56 PM
Valvoline 10w40 Synthetic Motorcycle oil from Walmart at $6.75 a quart. Most important is Using a JASO M2 Rating and Not just Jaso . Unless you use BRP oil.

Valvoline standard 10W40 motorcycle oil (excellent wet clutch protection) JASO MA2 API SL High Temp-High RPM's $4.85/qt
Ryan Schnitz Racing--1st street bike to get into 6.90 1/4 mile Guinness Book record holder doesn't run synthetic.

pegasus1300
02-14-2019, 11:56 PM
Shell Rotella 5/40 T6 synthetic. I have bought so much of this oil on sale that I'll have over 100,000 miles on the Spyder before I use it all up. The sale Mike mentions earlier is a great sale, take advantage.

The why is that it is an excellent oil it is readily available (Walmart) and it is cheap. I change it out every 4500 miles so I can't see putting in an expensive oil.

PMK
02-15-2019, 06:37 AM
Mobil 1 10w40 Sportbike oil. The reason why, in a very complete test of many oils, the Mobil 1 10w40 Sportbike oil was ranked as number 2 best motorcycle oil behind very expensive Motul race oil, and the Mobil was higher rated than the Rotella and other oils mentioned here.

The test, for unknown reasons does not compare Amsoil, so there is no means to praise nor condemn it.

Additionally, others here have had the Mobil 1 from their Spyders tested by labs and the results are excellent.

Plus, from a practical point, the Spyder shifts better and the clutch is smoother compared to BRP oil.

bikerbillone
02-15-2019, 08:03 AM
I use whatever my neighbor has in his garage when it is time to change my oil. :roflblack:

Mr. I see you have two trikes, which one do you ride most often?

AY4B
02-20-2019, 05:48 PM
http://www.lamonstergarage.com/lamonster-998-full-synthetic-oil-change-kit-can-am-spyder-spectro-oil/

https://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-1dz5qu/products/351/images/1869/IMG_1687__54963.1512752263.1280.1280.JPG?c=2

I just switched to Lamonster oil from Amsoil and could feel a vast improvement.

cueman
02-20-2019, 06:39 PM
I just switched to Lamonster oil from Amsoil and could feel a vast improvement.
Would you please comment more on its improvements? Thanks, cueman

bikerbillone
02-20-2019, 06:44 PM
Mr. I see you have two trikes, which one do you ride most often?

Interesting reply, guess that's a funny icon, I thought it was a good question, maybe not. Thanks for the response, I see you've given it a lot of thought.

deer30084
02-21-2019, 10:12 AM
Why use 10W40 when the manual says to use 5W40? It cracks me up when people say they use it with "no issues." Maybe years down the road the 2nd or 3rd owner will experience the "issues."

BLUEKNIGHT911
02-21-2019, 11:29 AM
Why use 10W40 when the manual says to use 5W40? It cracks me up when people say they use it with "no issues." Maybe years down the road the 2nd or 3rd owner will experience the "issues."

What do you think ….. is the difference between 5w and 10w ?????? …. Mike :ohyea:

BajaRon
02-21-2019, 11:31 AM
Why use 10W40 when the manual says to use 5W40? It cracks me up when people say they use it with "no issues." Maybe years down the road the 2nd or 3rd owner will experience the "issues."

There are actually a number of good reasons to use 10w-40 as opposed to a 5w-40.

1- The larger the gap between the low number and the high number, the less stable an oil is. If you are using a mineral oil with an additive package (which is what most 'Synthetic' labeled motor oils are), it takes more additive to get this wider spread. Additives are there to protect the weaker mineral oil molecules from shearing and other forces which break the oil molecules down and degrade their lubricating properties. Additives are not lubricants, and they do break down. Once these protective additives start to go away, the weak mineral oil molecules tend to lose integrity quickly. This is why the BRP oils tend to shear down to 20 weight at around 5,000 miles according to the oil analysis testing we've seen.

2- The low number of these 2 is only designed to give a relative viscosity at cold start-up. While cold start-up viscosity is important, it only needs to be thin enough to deliver adequate lubrication to vital parts during this very short period of time. If you are storing your Spyder in sub-zero temperatures, then a 5w oil would certainly be advantageous. However, it is probably a very rare Spyder which ever sees this kind of cold start-up temperature. This means that you are sacrificing at least some stability for a cold start-up viscosity that you will never need.

It is also interesting to note that true synthetic oils like Amsoil, Schaeffer, etc., being engineered at the molecular level during the refinement process have much stronger molecules. This is why they are able to achieve multiple viscosities and are inherently more stable and able to resist shearing and other destructive environments with minimal additives. We consistantly see Amsoil tests coming back in the low to mid 30's at 10k as opposed to BRP and other oils at 20w at the same mileage.

If you really want to know what is going on with your oil, have it tested. It's easy and not that expensive. And then you don't have to take someone else's word for it. But be prepared. The results may surprise you.

People truly do get personally invested in their brand and the oil debate will certainly rage on. I do not expect that my 2 cents will change anything. But it is always an interesting discussion.

Netminder
02-21-2019, 11:35 AM
Another vote for Amsoil 10W40. But I have used Royal Purple as well. I think any good synthetic (with the right specs)is a wise choice. Just my 2 cents!

deer30084
02-21-2019, 12:22 PM
Mike: Viscosity I suppose. I'm no oil expert.

vindex1963
02-21-2019, 01:15 PM
Why use 10W40 when the manual says to use 5W40? It cracks me up when people say they use it with "no issues." Maybe years down the road the 2nd or 3rd owner will experience the "issues."

Probably not, todays oils are excellent and if you use the correct weight and change it accordingly all JASO oils will be fine. People buy into the hype instead of the facts and the fact is "Name brand, wet clutch compatible. BAM good to go". My Uncle had an old 60's Galaxy 500 that ran 300,000+ miles before the frame rusted and broke in the 1970's running Quaker State oil without "issues". Turns out with those miles he was, in a way the 2nd, 3rd and maybe 4th owner.

BajaRon
02-21-2019, 01:40 PM
Probably not, todays oils are excellent and if you use the correct weight and change it accordingly all JASO oils will be fine. People buy into the hype instead of the facts and the fact is "Name brand, wet clutch compatible. BAM good to go". My Uncle had an old 60's Galaxy 500 that ran 300,000+ miles before the frame rusted and broke in the 1970's running Quaker State oil without "issues". Turns out with those miles he was, in a way the 2nd, 3rd and maybe 4th owner.

Not necessarily true. There are JASO MA2 oils out there that will slip the clutch on a 998 because of additives not conducive to this clutch. It is important for different model Spyder owners to know what specific needs their Spyder has and not assume that all Spyders are created equal. The 1330, on the other hand, is engineered to have a much more tolerant clutch mechanism and will work fine with lubricants that would slip the clutch on a 998.

vindex1963
02-21-2019, 01:54 PM
Not necessarily true. There are JASO MA2 oils out there that will slip the clutch on a 998 because of additives not conducive to this clutch. It is important for different model Spyder owners to know what specific needs their Spyder has and not assume that all Spyders are created equal. The 1330, on the other hand, is engineered to have a much more tolerant clutch mechanism and will work fine with lubricants that would slip the clutch on a 998.

Examples?

BLUEKNIGHT911
02-21-2019, 07:32 PM
Mike: Viscosity I suppose. I'm no oil expert.

If you haven't read BAJARON's post above - it is in your best interest to do so ….. PS I use 10/40 synthetic ….. Mike :ohyea:

jaherbst
02-21-2019, 11:03 PM
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OIL --we don't need no stinking OIL. We run em till they quit then use em for a boat anchor!

By the way what kind of tires youse guys using? :joke:

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Jack[/SIZE]

007james
02-22-2019, 06:02 AM
How many PSI do you run your Oil at,....and what Viscosity do you put in your tires? 🤓
007James


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OIL --we don't need no stinking OIL. We run em till they quit then use em for a boat anchor!

By the way what kind of tires youse guys using? :joke:

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Jack[/SIZE]

Zip
02-22-2019, 08:13 AM
169539 169540

From Walmart

deer30084
02-23-2019, 04:45 PM
OIL --we don't need no stinking OIL. We run em till they quit then use em for a boat anchor!

By the way what kind of tires youse guys using? :joke:

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Jack

Sounds like a new thread is in order.:D

safecracker
02-23-2019, 05:00 PM
I use BRP Blended oil. I buy the kit. Works for me. Bruce

RICZ
02-26-2019, 01:18 AM
I saw no mention of Rotella T-6. It's JASO-MA2 rated as a motorcycle oil. I'm new to the world of Spyders, but an old hand with motorcycles and I have found T-6 to be very advantageous for clutches, trannys, lifters and engine protection. A heavier additive package makes it a long term oil. No, I don't sell it or have stock in the company, just a satisfied customer. I have a friend with a 990 RT who uses RT and likes the results.

BLUEKNIGHT911
02-26-2019, 12:00 PM
I saw no mention of Rotella T-6. It's JASO-MA2 rated as a motorcycle oil. I'm new to the world of Spyders, but an old hand with motorcycles and I have found T-6 to be very advantageous for clutches, trannys, lifters and engine protection. A heavier additive package makes it a long term oil. No, I don't sell it or have stock in the company, just a satisfied customer. I have a friend with a 990 RT who uses RT and likes the results.

Well I also use ( as do hundreds of other folks on this Forum ) ………. and Rotella is repeating their FANTASTIC Re-bate they had in 2018 , there is a LINK posted in another similar thread ……. Mike :ohyea:.....You can find the link in post #7 of the Rotella Oil Rebate - Thread ...do a search …. Mike

RICZ
02-26-2019, 12:33 PM
Well I also use ( as do hundreds of other folks on this Forum ) ………. and Rotella is repeating their FANTASTIC Re-bate they had in 2018 , there is a LINK posted in another similar thread ……. Mike :ohyea:.....You can find the link in post #7 of the Rotella Oil Rebate - Thread ...do a search …. Mike
I shoulda looked farther back to earlier posts before I posted that.
I just sold my last two wheeler, a 2010 Victory Cross Roads I bought new. Of course, it came with the factory Vic oil and the lifters would rattle on cold starts and the shifting was clunky. Other Vic owners said the same. I switched to Rotella T-6 and both of those improved; quiet lifters and smoother shifting. Inadvertently, one time I ran the oil over 7K miles and being worried, I sent in a sample for analysis. The report came back A+ and said there's 3K more miles left on it. That convinced me to stick with Rotella.

deer30084
02-26-2019, 09:58 PM
The original thread was "What oil do you use ON your Spyder?" I don't use any oil on my Spyder.

RICZ
02-26-2019, 10:58 PM
The original thread was "What oil do you use ON your Spyder?" I don't use any oil on my Spyder.
My mistake! I use CBD oil ON my F3 to relieve its aches and pains. :)

TONYO
04-04-2019, 10:47 AM
FYI>>>> Castrol Power RS Racing 4T 10W/40 On sale at amazon....40 Bucks a 6 pack delivered. Cant beat this price on a fine motorcycle oil.

SmoovOpRatoR
04-05-2019, 03:04 PM
Shell Rotella T-6.

gerald37
07-17-2022, 11:11 AM
I am just curious what brand of oil people use in their Spyders. Does anyone use Valvoline motorcycle oil?

troop
07-17-2022, 11:26 AM
Somewhere in these threads are words/thoughts about Valvoline m/c oil. But, in a word, yes. Valvoline 10w40 syn m/c oil will work just fine.
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3237717

gerald37
07-17-2022, 11:53 AM
Somewhere in these threads are words/thoughts about Valvoline m/c oil. But, in a word, yes. Valvoline 10w40 syn m/c oil will work just fine.
https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3237717

I was curious. I have used Valvoline for years in motorcycles. I had a 2015 Spyder used Valvoline for 50,000 miles and a 2019 and put 30,000 on it. I have this 2021 and think I wii continue using it. The Cam Am oil is so high.

azwiz
07-17-2022, 01:21 PM
If using Rotella T6, what weight? I live in Arizona (HOT).

Deanna777
07-17-2022, 03:55 PM
I am just curious what brand of oil people use in their Spyders. Does anyone use Valvoline motorcycle oil?

I have a 2014 RTS-SE6 I use the Valvoline Full Synthetic 4T Motorcycle Oil ( 10w 40).

The Valvoline 4T stroke motorcycle Oil is formulated to provide outstanding Wet Clutch protection for maximum power transfer and smooth shifting. It also delivers performance trusted by motorcycle owners and race teams around the world. It is formulated for the specific needs of high performance motorcycles including high temps, high RPMS, and wet clutch systems. The spyders have a wet clutch system.

I have been using the above oil for 8 years.

Deanna

Pirate
07-17-2022, 04:53 PM
I use Liqui Moly 4T 5w-40 Street as recommended by my Spyder mechanic.

pidjones
07-18-2022, 11:17 AM
Wow, an oil thread (notice the OP posted in Bold) that is four years old gets dredged up.