pauly1
07-05-2018, 09:54 PM
Here's what I've been able to put together to get the above setup to work. There are some nuances in the various software. But essentially, music and GPS output to the Sena 30K headset, no FM or Aux audio out to the headset, the ability to roll out and back into the BRP Connect app to take pictures and adjust phone settings. 6 steps to sign on and get all connected once the setup and pairing have been completed.
Please keep comments to the point about getting us all connected and sharing your experiences with your setups!!!
Note: Try as I might, I couldn't get a multi-level list to paste into this system. PM and I'll send you an Apple Pages or MS Word style document.
BRP Connect, Android Cell Phone, and the Send 30K
After two months of frustration and really no help or insight from BRP, I put together this hack approach to getting BRP Connect to work with an Android-based cell phone and a bluetooth headset. BRP Customer Servicer had no information to share on BRP Connect, but rather stated to “…see your dealer…”. The several dealers I spoke to directly could not provide any input as apparently few people have tried or complained about it. Some YouTube videos are available using the Apple iPhone X as the smart phone. No where could I find keystroke data from BRP. Sena doesn’t officially support the BRP Connect app.
Here are the pieces which I connected together:
BRP Connect(tm)
BRP Gauge Cluster
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 smart phone
Sena 30K headset
Google(tm) Maps (via cell phone data plan)
Genius Maps (stand-alone GPS)
Google(tm) Play Music (playing locally stored music)
AccuWeather(tm), although allegedly compatible, hung up without ever opening. It was dropped due to it being a low priority for us. BRP website stated AccuWeather(tm) and Rever(tm) are not yet available for Android
This set up should result in:
Cell Phone connection to the headset to make and take phone calls
Music audio from the phone to the headset
GPS access from the phone via the BRP Gauge Cluster
Taking pictures with the cell phone while attached to the BRP Gauge Cluster and then resuming BRP Connect (2 touches on the cell phone screen, all while the bike was turned on and the music was playing().
Known deficiencies are:
FM radio and Auxiliary sound plays only though the Spyder speakers - limitation by the BRP Gauge Cluster
Potential issue with non-display of the cursor when first trying to use BRP Connect on the BRP Gauge Cluster; see below for hack solution
Some Genius Maps settings are not remembered after disconnecting from the system
Cell phone sound level will be reduced after a power-down disconnect
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Setting up the cell phone - a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 running Android 8.0.0
Download and install the ‘Sena 30K’ app from the Google Play Store
Download and install ‘BRP Connect’ from the Google Play Store
Download and install Genius Maps (North American Trial version)
Nice to do: created page on phone apps to co-locate all of the app links for ease of use
Open Genius Map app and go through set up
Allow Location
Download Maps - they are large files so best to do from Wi-Fi connection
Voice - download you choice of two voices
Route Settings
Turn “Off” ‘Departure’ and ‘Live Traffic’
Selected ‘Unpaved Roads’ in Avoidance
(For reference, the Vehicle Connectivity is “North America Trial”)
Live Traffic set to “Off”
Distance/Time I changed to “Miles” and turned off the 24-hour clock format
Select download to SD Card
Open Google Music Play and set up play locally stored music
Open BRP Connect app (without connected to Spyder)
Associate ‘Music’ function to ‘Google Play Music’ by touching on Music
Touch on Genius Maps to ensure that app opens
First-time Pairing of Cell Phone to BRP Gauge Cluster
Note: DO NOT yet plug into the Spyder connections yet!!
BRP Gauge Cluster
Home (push center of Joy Stick (JS))
Settings (up/down on JS to get to Settings, then push right on JS
Bluetooth
Add Phone
Phone
Settings —> Connections —> Bluetooth
Touch the ‘Scan’ button if phone is not searching for BT devices
Touch ‘BRP Connect'
Verify Security Code matches on BRP Gauge Cluster and the phone, touch “OK”
BRP Gauge Cluster
Push JS right to select the Green Check mark
Allow access from BRP to the cell phone data
BRP Connect App, Cell Phone, and Sena 30K Headset
Sena 30K Headset (Sec # refer to the Sena 30K Manual)
Perform factory Reset on the headset (Sec 14.2)
Delete pairing of headset to phone, if there is one, in Phone Bluetooth Settings
Use the Sena 30K app on phone to complete pairing of Headset to Phone (Sec 4.1)
Set up Sena 30K headset using the app
Unpair Sena 30K headset and phone from in Phone Bluetooth Settings
Either Phone or Media or both must be enabled to connect to the headset to use the Sena 30K app, however both interfere with BRP Connect function
Leaving the Phone Audio disallows use of the phone via BRP Connect
Leaving the Media Audio messes up audio control for listening to music
BRP Gauge Cluster
The first-time phone pairing is remembered by the Cluster
Pair Sena 30K headset to the BRP Dash Cluster (Sec 4.2, Second Phone)
This will provide your cell phone connection via a headset: a HEADSET MUST must be connected for cell phone usage!
Set up Music to output via bluetooth
This will provide your cell phone music audio to be piped into the headset
FM and Auxiliary audio cannot be output to bluetooth
Use The System
Unlock Phone
Start the ‘BRP Connect’ app on the phone
Turn on the Sena 30K headset
Select Mesh - Private mode
Plug the phone into the BRP USB cord via phone charging cord
You will need to provide the USB extension cords, longer is better for grabbing the phone and taking pictures
Turn the Spyder’s Ignition Switch (SIS) “On”
Turn up sound level on phone up to maximum while the system is connecting
you may need to override a safety warning about loud music and hearing damage
Notes:
it will take ~30 seconds for the bluetooth devices to connect and the same to disconnect during power “off”
It will take another 10 - 15 seconds for the music to start if it was playing when the key was turned off
If the phone was restarted, music will start to play at song “0”
I had issues with the cursor on the BRP Gauge Cluster not showing until I cycled Out/In using the Home Button (tap once, then select BRP Connect) while the phone is plugged into the BRP Gauge Cluster
Turn SIS “Off”, then back “On”
If <30 second interval - BRP Connect will immediately restart (actually, it didn’t turn off yet)
If >30 second interval, the BRP App will show on phone screen. It will take 30 seconds to reestablish connection with BRP Connect and resume playing music at the song playing when turned “Off”
If >30 second interval, the BRP App shown on screen and you want to use other apps, hit the “Home” key, use the desired apps, turn on SIS and in ~30 seconds it will reestablish connection with BRP Connect and resume playing music at the song playing when turned “Off”
To take a picture via the cell phone camera while connected to the BRP Gauge Cluster
Note: you’ll need long enough USB extension cables, and this is more viable on the F3 models as the cable connections are in the dash box
Pick up the cell phone, leave cord attached
Push the “Home” button on the phone’s Navigation Bar
Go to your Camera app and take pictures
Multiple ways to go back to BRP Connect
Push the “Home” key once, navigate to and select ‘BRP Connect’ app
Alternatively, touch the “Recent” button, find the BRP Connect app and touch it.
In either case, the phone will immediately connect back to the BRP Gauge Cluster
Notes:
Music will continue to play during the whole process and even if you don’t go back to BRP Connect, including ability to adjust sound level and advance through the song library
You won’t be able to use the phone or go back to BRP Connect in the BRP Gauge Cluster until selecting the BRP Connect app on your phone
BRP Connect Navigation buttons - not all-inclusive listing, just ones I stumbled onto
Joy Stick (JS) left and hold for 2 sec - can be use to back up and close out of apps
Worked in Google Play Music, Google Maps, and Genius Maps
Use BRP Connect button to toggle in/out of BRP Connect Apps
Push JS Center - sometimes used to make selection if right/left or up/down don’t work
Use the System - after initial setup and pairing - Simplified
Unlock and open Phone
Start BRP Connect app on phone
Turn on Sena headset
Connect USB cord from bike to phone
Turn the Spyder Ignition Switch “On”
May need to turn up the Phone’s sound volume
Please keep comments to the point about getting us all connected and sharing your experiences with your setups!!!
Note: Try as I might, I couldn't get a multi-level list to paste into this system. PM and I'll send you an Apple Pages or MS Word style document.
BRP Connect, Android Cell Phone, and the Send 30K
After two months of frustration and really no help or insight from BRP, I put together this hack approach to getting BRP Connect to work with an Android-based cell phone and a bluetooth headset. BRP Customer Servicer had no information to share on BRP Connect, but rather stated to “…see your dealer…”. The several dealers I spoke to directly could not provide any input as apparently few people have tried or complained about it. Some YouTube videos are available using the Apple iPhone X as the smart phone. No where could I find keystroke data from BRP. Sena doesn’t officially support the BRP Connect app.
Here are the pieces which I connected together:
BRP Connect(tm)
BRP Gauge Cluster
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 smart phone
Sena 30K headset
Google(tm) Maps (via cell phone data plan)
Genius Maps (stand-alone GPS)
Google(tm) Play Music (playing locally stored music)
AccuWeather(tm), although allegedly compatible, hung up without ever opening. It was dropped due to it being a low priority for us. BRP website stated AccuWeather(tm) and Rever(tm) are not yet available for Android
This set up should result in:
Cell Phone connection to the headset to make and take phone calls
Music audio from the phone to the headset
GPS access from the phone via the BRP Gauge Cluster
Taking pictures with the cell phone while attached to the BRP Gauge Cluster and then resuming BRP Connect (2 touches on the cell phone screen, all while the bike was turned on and the music was playing().
Known deficiencies are:
FM radio and Auxiliary sound plays only though the Spyder speakers - limitation by the BRP Gauge Cluster
Potential issue with non-display of the cursor when first trying to use BRP Connect on the BRP Gauge Cluster; see below for hack solution
Some Genius Maps settings are not remembered after disconnecting from the system
Cell phone sound level will be reduced after a power-down disconnect
====================================
Setting up the cell phone - a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 running Android 8.0.0
Download and install the ‘Sena 30K’ app from the Google Play Store
Download and install ‘BRP Connect’ from the Google Play Store
Download and install Genius Maps (North American Trial version)
Nice to do: created page on phone apps to co-locate all of the app links for ease of use
Open Genius Map app and go through set up
Allow Location
Download Maps - they are large files so best to do from Wi-Fi connection
Voice - download you choice of two voices
Route Settings
Turn “Off” ‘Departure’ and ‘Live Traffic’
Selected ‘Unpaved Roads’ in Avoidance
(For reference, the Vehicle Connectivity is “North America Trial”)
Live Traffic set to “Off”
Distance/Time I changed to “Miles” and turned off the 24-hour clock format
Select download to SD Card
Open Google Music Play and set up play locally stored music
Open BRP Connect app (without connected to Spyder)
Associate ‘Music’ function to ‘Google Play Music’ by touching on Music
Touch on Genius Maps to ensure that app opens
First-time Pairing of Cell Phone to BRP Gauge Cluster
Note: DO NOT yet plug into the Spyder connections yet!!
BRP Gauge Cluster
Home (push center of Joy Stick (JS))
Settings (up/down on JS to get to Settings, then push right on JS
Bluetooth
Add Phone
Phone
Settings —> Connections —> Bluetooth
Touch the ‘Scan’ button if phone is not searching for BT devices
Touch ‘BRP Connect'
Verify Security Code matches on BRP Gauge Cluster and the phone, touch “OK”
BRP Gauge Cluster
Push JS right to select the Green Check mark
Allow access from BRP to the cell phone data
BRP Connect App, Cell Phone, and Sena 30K Headset
Sena 30K Headset (Sec # refer to the Sena 30K Manual)
Perform factory Reset on the headset (Sec 14.2)
Delete pairing of headset to phone, if there is one, in Phone Bluetooth Settings
Use the Sena 30K app on phone to complete pairing of Headset to Phone (Sec 4.1)
Set up Sena 30K headset using the app
Unpair Sena 30K headset and phone from in Phone Bluetooth Settings
Either Phone or Media or both must be enabled to connect to the headset to use the Sena 30K app, however both interfere with BRP Connect function
Leaving the Phone Audio disallows use of the phone via BRP Connect
Leaving the Media Audio messes up audio control for listening to music
BRP Gauge Cluster
The first-time phone pairing is remembered by the Cluster
Pair Sena 30K headset to the BRP Dash Cluster (Sec 4.2, Second Phone)
This will provide your cell phone connection via a headset: a HEADSET MUST must be connected for cell phone usage!
Set up Music to output via bluetooth
This will provide your cell phone music audio to be piped into the headset
FM and Auxiliary audio cannot be output to bluetooth
Use The System
Unlock Phone
Start the ‘BRP Connect’ app on the phone
Turn on the Sena 30K headset
Select Mesh - Private mode
Plug the phone into the BRP USB cord via phone charging cord
You will need to provide the USB extension cords, longer is better for grabbing the phone and taking pictures
Turn the Spyder’s Ignition Switch (SIS) “On”
Turn up sound level on phone up to maximum while the system is connecting
you may need to override a safety warning about loud music and hearing damage
Notes:
it will take ~30 seconds for the bluetooth devices to connect and the same to disconnect during power “off”
It will take another 10 - 15 seconds for the music to start if it was playing when the key was turned off
If the phone was restarted, music will start to play at song “0”
I had issues with the cursor on the BRP Gauge Cluster not showing until I cycled Out/In using the Home Button (tap once, then select BRP Connect) while the phone is plugged into the BRP Gauge Cluster
Turn SIS “Off”, then back “On”
If <30 second interval - BRP Connect will immediately restart (actually, it didn’t turn off yet)
If >30 second interval, the BRP App will show on phone screen. It will take 30 seconds to reestablish connection with BRP Connect and resume playing music at the song playing when turned “Off”
If >30 second interval, the BRP App shown on screen and you want to use other apps, hit the “Home” key, use the desired apps, turn on SIS and in ~30 seconds it will reestablish connection with BRP Connect and resume playing music at the song playing when turned “Off”
To take a picture via the cell phone camera while connected to the BRP Gauge Cluster
Note: you’ll need long enough USB extension cables, and this is more viable on the F3 models as the cable connections are in the dash box
Pick up the cell phone, leave cord attached
Push the “Home” button on the phone’s Navigation Bar
Go to your Camera app and take pictures
Multiple ways to go back to BRP Connect
Push the “Home” key once, navigate to and select ‘BRP Connect’ app
Alternatively, touch the “Recent” button, find the BRP Connect app and touch it.
In either case, the phone will immediately connect back to the BRP Gauge Cluster
Notes:
Music will continue to play during the whole process and even if you don’t go back to BRP Connect, including ability to adjust sound level and advance through the song library
You won’t be able to use the phone or go back to BRP Connect in the BRP Gauge Cluster until selecting the BRP Connect app on your phone
BRP Connect Navigation buttons - not all-inclusive listing, just ones I stumbled onto
Joy Stick (JS) left and hold for 2 sec - can be use to back up and close out of apps
Worked in Google Play Music, Google Maps, and Genius Maps
Use BRP Connect button to toggle in/out of BRP Connect Apps
Push JS Center - sometimes used to make selection if right/left or up/down don’t work
Use the System - after initial setup and pairing - Simplified
Unlock and open Phone
Start BRP Connect app on phone
Turn on Sena headset
Connect USB cord from bike to phone
Turn the Spyder Ignition Switch “On”
May need to turn up the Phone’s sound volume