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Rogue Hawk
05-29-2018, 02:23 PM
I was riding over Memorial day in 95F heat for several hours and got heat stroke. I thought if I kept hydrated I would be OK, but no. So I thought I would post some info about it so you will be aware of the symptoms.
https://www.medicinenet.com/heat_stroke/article.htm


https://images.askmen.com/720x540/entertainment/movies/the-15-best-moments-in-the-terminator-franchise/11-1436197372.jpg

pegasus1300
05-29-2018, 02:47 PM
glad you are ok. How long did they keep. Are you on any meds that make you sensitive UV rays?

Bob Denman
05-29-2018, 02:55 PM
:lecturef_smilie: Homer knows:

161747
Keep hydrated, and protect yourself from the heat... nojoke

Chupaca
05-29-2018, 03:10 PM
Hope your all better now. Gonna have to stay away from those kind of heats...:yikes: Can't ryde when it's too cold and can't ryde when it's too hot...:banghead: really limiting the ryde....Although I do get many of those symptoms when someone cuts me off...:gaah:Different kinda heat stroke...:roflblack: Hate to say it but...hope you get some cooler weather to ryde in...Thanks for the info and the heads up..:bowdown:

SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
05-29-2018, 03:33 PM
did bob take that photo?

kep-up
05-29-2018, 03:51 PM
I have no idea whether this comment applies to the OP or not, but I'm gonna post it anyway.

Contrary to what you might think, riding in tee shirt and shorts is not a good idea no matter how hot it gets. Wear your protective gear. Speaking from over 50 years of riding motorcycles, you will be much more comfortable wearing a ventilated jacket, trousers that can be vented, or at least jeans, and a vented full face helmet even in the heat.
Stop often, even if only for 5 minutes, to hydrate yourself and to stretch. Hydrate with H2O, not soda, beer or even the specialty so-called "sports" drinks. Plain water has worked for thousands of years and is still the best hydrator.

Ride fast, Ride safe...………………...

PrairieSpyder
05-29-2018, 03:58 PM
I was riding over Memorial day in 95F heat for several hours and got heat stroke. I thought if I kept hydrated I would be OK, but no. So I thought I would post some info about it so you will be aware of the symptoms.
https://www.medicinenet.com/heat_stroke/article.htm


https://images.askmen.com/720x540/entertainment/movies/the-15-best-moments-in-the-terminator-franchise/11-1436197372.jpg

That would have been my assumption, too. Glad you're all better!

bscrive
05-29-2018, 04:33 PM
I have had heat stroke three times over the past 30 years and it is no fun each time it happened. I hope you are doing much better now

Grandpot
05-29-2018, 04:36 PM
I have no idea whether this comment applies to the OP or not, but I'm gonna post it anyway.

Contrary to what you might think, riding in tee shirt and shorts is not a good idea no matter how hot it gets. Wear your protective gear. Speaking from over 50 years of riding motorcycles, you will be much more comfortable wearing a ventilated jacket, trousers that can be vented, or at least jeans, and a vented full face helmet even in the heat.
Stop often, even if only for 5 minutes, to hydrate yourself and to stretch. Hydrate with H2O, not soda, beer or even the specialty so-called "sports" drinks. Plain water has worked for thousands of years and is still the best hydrator.

Ride fast, Ride safe...………………...

That is GREAT advice!

easysuper
05-29-2018, 04:47 PM
We stop often, wear our cooling vest and trade off each stop drinking water than the next stop one of the power-ade drinks, I always keep an eye on my wife as she does not like drinking water but has learned that I'm not going to let up. Back when I was a young carpenter and bagged up as a framer I would drink 5 gallons of water every day , just water in my cooler but not iced. My old wrangler shirts had a permanent X on the back from suspenders from the sun and sweat. I always wore a hat and a long sleeve shirt. The cooling vest makes the difference from riding or not . We try not to ride during the heat of the day and we start very early most days when we are on trips .
Glad to hear you are alright.

UtahPete
05-29-2018, 04:47 PM
I have had heat stroke three times over the past 30 years and it is no fun each time it happened. I hope you are doing much better now
Very dangerous if it happens while driving a car or riding a motorcycle...

trikermutha
05-29-2018, 05:18 PM
Sunday was 98 deg in Chicago. At 10:30 am I was ready to get off the Spyder. Never thought I say that :yikes:

Now Alberto is moving this way>

Yazz
05-29-2018, 08:16 PM
We ride in the heat a lot down South.

There are two ways to tell if you're getting close to heat-stroke.

1- You don't have to pee at the gas station.

In that case, chug a bottle of Gaterade, not water. Gaterade has electrolytes in it that replenishes what you've sweated out.

2- You start riding stupid, making poor decisions.

In that case, I pull you over and make you drink a bottle of water with sea salt in it. Yeah, your riding stupid and need some help. Sea salt is different that salt pills, it has more of the electrolytes that your body needs. Hubby starts coming around about five minutes after he drinks it. He hates like the taste, but he feels better afterwards. I keep it in my purse.

In the heat, make sure you pee at every gas station you stop at. No caffeine drinks or sugary beverages, they will both dehydrate you. Also, the adult beverages you drank the night before can contribute to dehydration.

Choose wisely Grasshopper...

canamjhb
05-29-2018, 10:31 PM
This is a real concern for my wife and me this time of year. We usually stop often, sometimes after traveling as little as 50 miles. Drink lots of water even though not thirsty. This season I bought us water bottles that also have a mister on them. The idea besides drinking, is to occasionally spray water around the neck and chest area while riding. Haven't tried them out yet but the temperature is ripe for the trying. Maybe tomorrow. It'll be 100. I never leave home this time of year without lots of water, even in the cage

IdahoMtnSpyder
05-29-2018, 11:29 PM
Based on my one experience with heat stress, you may not feel the effects of the hot weather until a day or two later. The effects can be cumulative. Several years ago I was at a regional GWRRA rally in Pendleton, OR. On Friday I took a motorcycle course in 95+ temps on a hot asphalt parking lot. I don't remember what I did in the heat on Saturday. Sunday, on my way home, I started feeling chilled so I pulled into a rest area to take a nap. That didn't work so I got back on the Goldwing and proceeded to drive off the edge of the asphalt on the way out of the rest area. An Oregon state trooper came by a few minutes later and helped me the bike back up and the trailer hooked on again. I took off, went around the corner getting onto the highway, and proceeded to drive off the asphalt again. Fortunately the trooper was still there so helped me get going again. I then managed to keep control of things and got to a restaurant about an hour later I stopped for lunch and more or less napped for an hour. Shortly after I left there I ran into rain. That helped me a lot. I was late getting home.

Saluda
05-30-2018, 06:46 AM
May sound strange but when I'm low on water and in the heat I can feel it in my muscles first.

Pirate looks at --
05-30-2018, 07:22 AM
I have no idea whether this comment applies to the OP or not, but I'm gonna post it anyway.

Contrary to what you might think, riding in tee shirt and shorts is not a good idea no matter how hot it gets. Wear your protective gear. Speaking from over 50 years of riding motorcycles, you will be much more comfortable wearing a ventilated jacket, trousers that can be vented, or at least jeans, and a vented full face helmet even in the heat.
Stop often, even if only for 5 minutes, to hydrate yourself and to stretch. Hydrate with H2O, not soda, beer or even the specialty so-called "sports" drinks. Plain water has worked for thousands of years and is still the best hydrator.

Ride fast, Ride safe...………………...

Be careful with posts like this, it is factual, based on science, this sort of post is not tolerated by some on the bored (intentional misspelling)! But I agree 100%!:clap:

Easy Rider
05-30-2018, 09:02 AM
:lecturef_smilie: Homer knows:
Keep hydrated, and protect yourself from the heat... nojoke

DOH :banghead:

Alcohol in ANY form is not good. It tends to make the dehydration worse not better.

Easy Rider
05-30-2018, 09:05 AM
In that case, I pull you over and make you drink a bottle of water with sea salt in it. ..

I still think that Gatoraid is better.
Drinking salt water sometimes makes you vomit, thus making the situation MUCH worse.

Easy Rider
05-30-2018, 09:07 AM
May sound strange but when I'm low on water and in the heat I can feel it in my muscles first.

Not strange at all.
Muscle cramps is one sign of dehydration.

Easy Rider
05-30-2018, 09:13 AM
Be careful with posts like this, it is factual, based on science, this sort of post is not tolerated by some on the bored (intentional misspelling)! But I agree 100%!:clap:

Incomplete or possibly misleading information is sometimes worse than none at all.

It would be better to say "wear WELL VENTILATED" gear instead of just "wear your gear".
For instance, leathers with little bitty holes in it often provides very poor air circulation.

What exactly do you think it accomplishes to throw insults at people who don't exactly agree with your opinions ?
I think it is disruptive and accomplishes NOTHING useful.

Easy Rider
05-30-2018, 09:15 AM
I was riding over Memorial day in 95F heat for several hours and got heat stroke.


When you feel up to it, would you be willing to post some more details.......as in, what you might do differently in the future ?

BoilerAnimal
05-30-2018, 09:28 AM
Another drawback to suffering heat stress, and especially heat stroke, is that you will now be more susceptible to suffering it again. As said, heat stress is very serious; heat stroke is a medical emergency. Neither should be taken lightly.

We can acclimate our bodies to tolerating heat by gradually increasing our activities in hot weather but sudden exposure to elevated temps, such as riding in elevated temps above the normal during a heat wave, is asking for trouble, especially if you don't hydrate.

Simply drinking as you ride very likely will not be enough in really hot, humid weather. You need to start drinking the day before to maximize your body's reserves of fluid and it is very important to continue to drink often, during and after, strenuous activity. It's also important to avoid alcohol and caffeinated drinks, as these are diuretics and will remove fluid from your body.

As a general rule, if your pee is not clear, you are already dehydrated. This is NOT something to take lightly. It can be serious. Deadly serious.

LeftCoast
05-30-2018, 10:03 AM
My thoughts on the Gatorade is if you drink it dilute it 5:1 with water. Pure Gatorade causes your body to pull water into the gut to dilute it to metabolize the electrolytes.

In heat situations 90% of what your body needs is get to a cooler place and get hydrated with water.

Machinegunner
05-30-2018, 10:09 AM
We always drink Pedialite. It has more electrolites than the sport drinks. It is made for dehydrated children. Works very well. I try to drink a minimum of 20 oz. between every gas stop.

Easy Rider
05-30-2018, 10:46 AM
My thoughts on the Gatorade is if you drink it dilute it 5:1 with water. Pure Gatorade causes your body to pull water into the gut to dilute it to metabolize the electrolytes.


Reference please.

BoilerAnimal
05-30-2018, 11:02 AM
https://homegymr.com/pedialyte-vs-gatorade/

Rogue Hawk
05-30-2018, 12:42 PM
I did order a cooling vest. So I will wear that and stay cognizant regarding the heat. This is more dangerous than I knew.

kep-up
05-30-2018, 03:35 PM
Incomplete or possibly misleading information is sometimes worse than none at all.

It would be better to say "wear WELL VENTILATED" gear instead of just "wear your gear".
For instance, leathers with little bitty holes in it often provides very poor air circulation.

What exactly do you think it accomplishes to throw insults at people who don't exactly agree with your opinions ?
I think it is disruptive and accomplishes NOTHING useful.

Wot, praytell brought this on???

kngfsh27
05-30-2018, 03:58 PM
I get in the shade whenever I stop. When the temps get to 90 or above, I am off the road and in the A/C.

Lew L
05-30-2018, 04:49 PM
We are headed to Southern Arazon for 5 days to visit the grand kids. In the heat I use:
1. Water at the handlebars ( with a straw) It is refreshed at each fuel stop.

2. Fully vented mesh jacket.
3. Cooling vest ( which I forgot to pack:yikes:)

4.Extra Water. Some of which will be used to dampen my tee shirt ( see #3)

5. A vented wind shield!! These really make a difference.!!!!

6. Light color or reflective helmet and jacket. Good venting at the helmet of course.

All the really make a big difference.

Stay cool out there,

Lew L

Easy Rider
05-30-2018, 05:31 PM
Wot, praytell brought this on???

I quoted the post that "brought it on".
What part don't you understand ??

LeftCoast
05-30-2018, 07:10 PM
Reference please.

Prefaced with “my thoughts” in the original post although there are a mix of references on Google ranging from Gatorades website that it shouldn’t be diluted at all to others recommending various ratios. My viewpoint comes from when I was in grad school an eon ago (which is problematic in itself at this point I admit) working on my masters in exercise physiology and what I was taught.

in most cases you see Gatorade articles paired up with athletic endeavors where electrolytes need replacing at a greater rate. I’m not a doctor but the whole heatstroke thing is preventable by adequate hydration that doesn’t need to include Gatorade, so for me a highly diluted ratio is what works.

if you are eating normally or what is necessary to take care of your hunger and staying adequately hydrated you should be getting everything your body needs to function.

Here is where I have a question though. Given probably 99.9% of the people on this board have more riding experience than I do, how physically demanding is this hobby/passion? It may be far greater than I realize. I certainly understand the environmental concerns, heat cold etc. but physical exertion isn’t something I’ve experienced yet because I haven’t been on any real long rides. That lack of experience also shaped my Gatorade response.

kep-up
05-30-2018, 07:28 PM
I quoted the post that "brought it on".
What part don't you understand ??

What I see is a "tongue in cheek" response to my earlier post. I see no insulting language in this thread until your snide remark. And then this arrogant response to my question. Ye gotta' learn to chill, my friend. You'll be better for it and so will the rest of us, as well.

Now go out there and enjoy life...……………...

.

Easy Rider
05-30-2018, 07:36 PM
That lack of experience also shaped my Gatorade response.

Since, by your own admission, you are not a doctor......some of the statements you are making might actually be dangerous if taken strictly literally.

Riding is by it's very nature stressful. The level of alertness required is somewhat above driving a car.
Just the stress puts some strain on your body.

Then add on a very LARGE heat load from the sun (maybe 95 F), the pavement (maybe over 150 F) and the engine you are sitting on (maybe 200 F)......and you need heat dissipation that might well EXCEED that of an athlete in all but the most demanding situations.

This statement in particular is bad advice. Not knowing the exact conditions present, you can't really say that:
" the whole heatstroke thing is preventable by adequate hydration that doesn’t need to include Gatorade, "
Adequate cooling is just as important as hydration. The two go hand in hand.

The "whole heatstroke thing" covers a WIDE range of conditions and a wide range of personal chemistrys.
One size does NOT fit all.

LeftCoast
05-30-2018, 07:38 PM
Since, by your own admission, you are not a doctor......some of the statements you are making might actually be dangerous if taken strictly literally.

Riding is by it's very nature stressful. The level of alertness required is somewhat above driving a car.
Just the stress puts some strain on your body.

Then add on a very LARGE heat load from the sun (maybe 95 F), the pavement (maybe over 150 F) and the engine you are sitting on (maybe 200 F)......and you need heat dissipation that might well EXCEED that of an athlete in all but the most demanding situations.

This statement in particular is bad advice. Not knowing the exact conditions present, you can't really say that:
" the whole heatstroke thing is preventable by adequate hydration that doesn’t need to include Gatorade, "
Adequate cooling is just as important as hydration. The two go hand in hand.

The "whole heatstroke thing" covers a WIDE range of conditions and a wide range of personal chemistrys.
One size does NOT fit all.

Fair enough, everyone should pay attention to what their body is telling them.

You sound like you must be a physician so I defer to you.

Easy Rider
05-30-2018, 07:39 PM
What I see is a "tongue in cheek" response to my earlier post. I see no insulting language in this thread until your snide remark.

Given past history, I think he is taking yet another opportunity to throw out an insult.....just for the sake of being nasty.

If you don't know the past history, maybe you don't understand the situation.

My comment was NOT directed at YOU.

Easy Rider
05-30-2018, 07:44 PM
You sound like you must be a physician so I defer to you.

No, just have listened to advice from those who ARE.

LeftCoast
05-30-2018, 07:49 PM
No, just have listened to advice from those who ARE.

Yeah, me too btw. Look, I wasn’t trying to be all inclusive in my answer. I’m also a pilot so we could start talking altitude as a variable as well. I’m just going to respect the points you’ve made as they are reasonable and walk away at this point and ignore the other “points” you made in your response.

IdahoMtnSpyder
05-30-2018, 09:45 PM
Here are couple of good articles from WebMD about heat exhaustion and heat stroke.

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/heat-stroke-symptoms-and-treatment#1

https://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/heat-exhaustion#

One interesting contrast between the two is with exhaustion you are sweating profusely. With heat stroke you're not sweating. Heat exhaustion can be treated with water and coolness. Heat stroke requires immediate emergency medical care. Heat exhaustion precedes heat stroke and can be caused by water depletion or salt depletion.