US Navy duty stations - picture gallery

[UtahPete]

This was my home for almost a year - YRBM-20 near Chau Doc, on the Bassac River, a tributary of the Mekong. I ran the electronics shop and was one of the senior NCO's on board so stood watch at the 'bridge' as OOD. The greatest threat to the barge was sappers or IEDs hidden in flotsam on the river, so the OOD and roving guard would shoot at any large piece of debris (usually branches and other foliage) coming down river toward us, using M-16 and Colt 45 mostly. Got pretty good at it.

During the monsoon season, which lasted several weeks, there was a constant stream of flotsam coming downriver so I got a lot of practice. Didn't blow up any IEDs, but it was a great excuse for hours of target practice. Before I was sent out to the YRBM-20, during the Tet offensive, the barge had come under intense rocket fire and several sailors were killed or wounded, so we also had an LCM constantly patrolling the river banks on either side, 24/7.

We supported (refuel and re-arm) two choppers at a time, plus an array of PBR's, LCMs and other watercraft. Sometimes we would take a Boston Whaler 50 miles up the Vinh The canal to the forward support base to repair radios and radars on station so the boats could keep operating.

Interesting time for a 21-year-old.

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[RinconRyder]

This was my home for almost a year - YRBM-20 near Chau Doc, on the Bassac River, a tributary of the Mekong. I ran the electronics shop and was one of the senior NCO's on board so stood watch at the 'bridge' as OOD. The greatest threat to the barge was IEDs hidden in flotsam on the river, so the OOD and roving guard would shoot at any large piece of debris (usually branches and other foliage) coming down river toward us, using M-16 and Colt 45 mostly. Got pretty good at it.

During the monsoon season, which lasted several weeks, there was a constant stream of flotsam coming downriver so I got a lot of practice. Didn't blow up any IEDs, but it was a great excuse for hours of target practice. Before I was sent out to the YRBM-20, during the Tet offensive, the barge had come under intense rocket fire and several sailors were killed or wounded, so we also had an LCM constantly patrolling the river banks on either side, 24/7.

We supported (refuel and re-arm) two choppers at a time, plus an array of PBR's, LCMs and other watercraft. Sometimes we would take a Boston Whaler 50 miles up the Vinh The canal to the forward support base to repair radios and radars on station so the boats could keep operating.

Interesting time for a 21-year-old.

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Very dangerous duty! I was out of there by spring of '66 so missed much of the riverene fun happening later.

[ARtraveler]

Thank you for your service. And thank you for the pictures. :firstplace::firstplace:

[LeftCoast]

Thank you for your service. And thank you for the pictures. :firstplace::firstplace:

Ditto this. I can’t imagine what that was like at 21.

[RinconRyder]

Got any pics of duty stations?

My only duty station was USS Orleck, a destroyer. We traveled up and down the coast providing rescue duty for the various aircraft carriers, shore bombardment supporting the marines and army troops ashore and interdiction of enemy smuggling operations.160657 160659

First photo is me showing off my short timer chain in Subic. Next one is in my favorite hangout in Yokosuka - the San Diego Bar. Both taken in 1965. I've got some more photos but they are on paper in an album. I'll have to scan them and put them in a digital folder.

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Fired over 10,000 rounds of 5"38 during my time aboard. I reported aboard the ship when it was in Long Beach undergoing FRAM in 1963 and was aboard for 3 years during which time I went from an RMSN to an RM2. (https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=uss+orleck+firing&fr=chr-greentree_ff&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vetfriends.com%2Fmilitaryp ics%2Fimages%2Flarge%2F1648092-USS-ORLECK-DD886-Wallace--23945.jpg#id=0&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vetfriends.com%2Fmilitarypic s%2Fimages%2Flarge%2F1648092-USS-ORLECK-DD886-Wallace--23945.jpg&action=click)

I got unofficial TAD to a marine company in 1965 when I was left behind as my ship pulled out unexpectedly. Spent six weeks with them in and around Danang. I packed a PRC-10 around the jungle when the marines went out on patrol and learned later that radiomen and corpsmen (medics) were the primary targets of snipers. That PRC-10 saved my ass twice: once when I got hit in the battery pack with AK-37 rounds and a second time when a shell landed on the engine of my whaleboat. Damned thing liked to drown me when I landed in the water because the webbing got wet and was very difficult to get loose. With two battery packs that radio weighed about half what I did way back then. I bought an Instamatic camera while in Danang and took some photos while with the marines but my pack was lost when the whale boat was hit.

We'll have to get together one day and swap some sea stories.

[Joe T.]

UP,

Thank you for your service.

Joe T.

[Snowbelt Spyder]

Just one of my duty stations. One of the "41 For Freedom". It's a lawn ornament now, in Port Canaveral Florida, after running aground in the Irish Sea. Too expensive to fix, plus it was going to be decommissioned due to the Salt II treaty anyway.

[UtahPete]

Just one of my duty stations. One of the "41 For Freedom". It's a lawn ornament now, in Port Canaveral Florida, after running aground in the Irish Sea. Too expensive to fix, plus it was going to be decommissioned due to the Salt II treaty anyway.
Run silent, run deep (except in the Irish Sea!). Thank you for your service!

[RinconRyder]

Great stories. We repaired many a PRC-21 for the boat crews.
After I got out, my recurring nightmare was to wake up and discover I was 'MSM' ... missing ship's movement. After college, my recurring nightmare was waking up to realize I'd overslept and missed the final exam. I know, no comparison right, but who can account for the subconscious mind.

I've also had that MSM dream a time or two.

There were four sailors and five marines on the whaleboat. We lost one sailor and four marines. I was the only RM aboard but the rest of the guys were also put to work by the navy installations in Danang while we were ashore. Gave me a new respect for Marines which I passed along to my middle son who spent 8 years in the Corps. The other three sailors took a Willy Fud out to a birdfarm and highlined back aboard the ship. I was in the field and missed the trip which was good because they all got dunked highlining. Got a new set of dungo's and clodbusters out of the deal. Still got my Aussie hat from that adventure which the captain noted when I reported aboard but he didn't take it away from me.

There was a Marine there who carried some sort of shotgun. It was short barreled and had a magazine. His dad sent it to him and also sent "care" packages with rounds every so often. That thing would take all the leaves off trees.

While I was there I slept with the company in one of their big hootches and remember the smell well. When my marine son was sent out to 29 Palms in SoCal for some training his company was in that same type of tent and I told him I could never forget that smell. He just laughed and said some things never change.

And speaking of MSM....after I got out I went home to Marin County, CA and several months later the ship returned to the States. They made a Navy Week visit to S.F. and I met up with one of my RM buddies who was still aboard. We had a great visit but he apparently didn't know exactly when the ship was to depart. I drove him down to Treasure Island and got there just as the ship singled up all lines. He tossed his ditty bag onto the fantail and shimmied across that hawser like a wharf rat just as the ship began to back away. He was also the guy who came back to the ship three sheets to the wind one night, got sick and hurled his dental plate into the crapper. He scrambled up on deck and peered over the side and there it came. He was about to jump into the water to grab his plate until I convinced him the navy would replace it and that water was very cold and dirty and he wouldn't want to put it back in his mouth.

Got many more stories. Makes me want to re-up......almost.

[UtahPete]

I've also had that MSM dream a time or two.

There were four sailors and five marines on the whaleboat. We lost one sailor and four marines. I was the only RM aboard but the rest of the guys were also put to work by the navy installations in Danang while we were ashore. Gave me a new respect for Marines which I passed along to my middle son who spent 8 years in the Corps. The other three sailors took a Willy Fud out to a birdfarm and highlined back aboard the ship. I was in the field and missed the trip which was good because they all got dunked highlining. Got a new set of dungo's and clodbusters out of the deal. Still got my Aussie hat from that adventure which the captain noted when I reported aboard but he didn't take it away from me.

There was a Marine there who carried some sort of shotgun. It was short barreled and had a magazine. His dad sent it to him and also sent "care" packages with rounds every so often. That thing would take all the leaves off trees.

While I was there I slept with the company in one of their big hootches and remember the smell well. When my marine son was sent out to 29 Palms in SoCal for some training his company was in that same type of tent and I told him I could never forget that smell. He just laughed and said some things never change.

And speaking of MSM....after I got out I went home to Marin County, CA and several months later the ship returned to the States. They made a Navy Week visit to S.F. and I met up with one of my RM buddies who was still aboard. We had a great visit but he apparently didn't know exactly when the ship was to depart. I drove him down to Treasure Island and got there just as the ship singled up all lines. He tossed his ditty bag onto the fantail and shimmied across that hawser like a wharf rat just as the ship began to back away. He was also the guy who came back to the ship three sheets to the wind one night, got sick and hurled his dental plate into the crapper. He scrambled up on deck and peered over the side and there it came. He was about to jump into the water to grab his plate until I convinced him the navy would replace it and that water was very cold and dirty and he wouldn't want to put it back in his mouth.

Got many more stories. Makes me want to re-up......almost.
Too funny! We had a contingent of Marines aboard the Long Beach and Bainbridge, both nuclear missile carrying ships. When they had a nuclear intrusion drill, you didn't want to be caught in the passageways because they thoroughly enjoyed knocking the swabs out of their way. Later, I was MAA and had to visit the brig now and then to make sure the Marines weren't abusing the swabbies. They were just kids - the Marines and the swabbies - doing their jobs the best they could - probably only 2 years or less out of high school.

[johnsimion]

With all that service to our country, doesn't it just warm your heart to be called unpatriotic and a "so-called" veteran over stuff as inconsequential as mere politics? And to hear that from people who didn't serve a single day. Well, I for one say actions speak louder than words. We served to protect their right to say disgusting crap, whether they appreciate it or not. I say thank you to you and all who served, and especially those who served in dangerous places. I served my own time in the military but my service can't hold a candle to yours or that of the other posters in this thread ... I was in safe places in the "Chair Force."

[Grandpot]

With all that service to our country, doesn't it just warm your heart to be called unpatriotic and a "so-called" veteran over stuff as inconsequential as mere politics? And to hear that from people who didn't serve a single day. Well, I for one say actions speak louder than words. We served to protect their right to say disgusting crap, whether they appreciate it or not. I say thank you to you and all who served, and especially those who served in dangerous places. I served my own time in the military but my service can't hold a candle to yours or that of the other posters in this thread ... I was in safe places in the "Chair Force."

When you are in the military, there is no safe place. You did your part.

[LeftCoast]

With all that service to our country, doesn't it just warm your heart to be called unpatriotic and a "so-called" veteran over stuff as inconsequential as mere politics? And to hear that from people who didn't serve a single day. Well, I for one say actions speak louder than words. We served to protect their right to say disgusting crap, whether they appreciate it or not. I say thank you to you and all who served, and especially those who served in dangerous places. I served my own time in the military but my service can't hold a candle to yours or that of the other posters in this thread ... I was in safe places in the "Chair Force."

This is one area no matter what your politics that I will always be greatful for your service and “unpatriotic” isn’t even a thought to be considered. You all deserve my respect for your service, men and women.

[UtahPete]

The USS Bainbridge, USS Long Beach and USS Enterprise were the first 3 nuclear-powered surface ships in the US Navy. This picture is of the three as they made their around the world cruise (without refueling) in 1964. The advantage of nuclear powered ships is their unlimited range at full speed (conventional ships burn too much fuel to sustain top speed for long).

I had the honor of serving on two of them; the Bainbridge and the Long Beach. I was trained as a radar technician and as a nuclear reactor operator and sent to Subic Bay (Philippines) to join the USS Bainbridge in 1966. At that time, she was on station in the Tonkin Gulf, so I boarded an oiler which met up with the fleet and I was hi-lined aboard the Bainbridge as the two ships steamed side-by-side. Pretty exciting at the time. It was while in the Tonkin Gulf that the USS Long Beach used its powerful fixed-array radar to detect and track two MIGs leaving an air base in North Vietnam and traveling at low altitude through a coastal valley; when they popped up over the coastal mountain range to attack our fleet, the Long Beach had two Talos missiles waiting for them. The dots disappeared from the radar.

I was on board the USS Long Beach in 1974 (I think) when we had to cut short our visit to Australia and steam north at top speed. We were to intercept the Russian fleet that was conducting exercises in the Bering Sea. The Long Beach carried some of the most sophisticated electronic surveillance and radar available at that time, plus had tremendous speed and long-range capability. As we left the South Pacific and steamed north, the ocean and air got noticeably colder and we had to break out our woolen blues and blankets from sea lockers. When we arrived on station, the seas were running 80-100 feet and the Russians had canceled their exercises, so we were ordered back to the South Pacific. That meant doing a 180 in a fierce northern storm, which meant at some point being broadside to those waves. We had two hours to prepare; everything loose was secured, both on the weather decks and below decks and then we began our turn. I had managed to secure a vantage point high in the superstructure to witness this rare occurrence. It was pretty exciting; as we turned into the waves, our 300-foot bow buried itself as the wave roared toward us. Then, the bow attained positive buoyancy and shed a tremendous amount of sea water as it shuddered through and over the wave. As we continued our turn, broadside to the waves, the ship leaned over 30 degrees off vertical, finally righted itself and then we ran at top speed before the waves. Beat anything Seven Flags has to offer!

These are stock photos - I'll dig through my old photos and slides and post some of my own once I get them scanned.
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[Saluda]

Thanks to all our vets.

[johnsimion]

When you are in the military, there is no safe place. You did your part.

As a JAG, I wrote a lot of wills for guys getting deployed. Sure hope none of them were ever needed.

[RinconRyder]

It was pretty exciting; as we turned into the waves, our 300-foot bow buried itself as the wave roared toward us. Then, the bow attained positive buoyancy and shed a tremendous amount of sea water as it shuddered through and over the wave. As we continued our turn, broadside to the waves, the ship leaned over 30 degrees off vertical, finally righted itself and then we ran at top speed before the waves.

30 degrees......HA! FRAM'd Gearing DD's tended to be top heavy due to the ASROC and DASH equipment on the 01 level. Their capsize point is right around 60 degrees. Orleck did two that were pretty close - one at 58 degrees as we raced away from a typhoon off Hong Kong. Had a bunch of senior sailors heading for the ladders on that one. Had to travel slowly as the shafts would vibrate violently when the props came out of the water when we were overtaken by huge rollers. I think the snipes spent the night hammering in replacement packing to keep the shafts from leaking.

[UtahPete]

30 degrees......HA! FRAM'd Gearing DD's tended to be top heavy due to the ASROC and DASH equipment on the 01 level. Their capsize point is right around 60 degrees. Orleck did two that were pretty close - one at 58 degrees as we raced away from a typhoon off Hong Kong. Had a bunch of senior sailors heading for the ladders on that one. Had to travel slowly as the shafts would vibrate violently when the props came out of the water when we were overtaken by huge rollers. I think the snipes spent the night hammering in replacement packing to keep the shafts from leaking.
I knew I was being conservative, but didn't want to over-dramatize and I honestly didn't remember exactly. I'm pretty sure it was more like 45 degrees now that you've brought that up. Our two heavy reactors provided a lot of ballast, but the square, flat superstructure that accommodated the fixed array radar also caught the wind pretty well.

The tin can sailors have my utmost respect; our ship would have been a luxury cruise compared to those living and operating conditions.
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[UtahPete]

Just one of my duty stations. One of the "41 For Freedom". It's a lawn ornament now, in Port Canaveral Florida, after running aground in the Irish Sea. Too expensive to fix, plus it was going to be decommissioned due to the Salt II treaty anyway.

That was the USS Nathanael Greene SSBN-636, one of the Freedom 41 nuclear-powered ballistic missile armed submarines. They were designed, built and operated to act as a deterrent to Soviet aggression in the early years of the Cold War. You must be proud to have served on her.

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[RinconRyder]

I knew I was being conservative, but didn't want to over-dramatize and I honestly didn't remember exactly. I'm pretty sure it was more like 45 degrees now that you've brought that up. Our four heavy reactors provided a lot of ballast, but the square, flat superstructure that accommodated the fixed array radar also caught the wind pretty well.

The tin can sailors have my utmost respect; our ship would have been a luxury cruise compared to those living and operating conditions.
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Great pics! I had not seen the FRAM version before but think it was after I had left the ship in '66. You can see quite the comparison between pre-FRAM and post-FRAM by looking at these two photos. A ton more windage and weight topside on the FRAM cans. DD's were definitely an E-ticket ride. Now destroyers are the size of WWII cruisers (12,000 tons). Orleck was 2,200 tons.

BTW, Orleck is one of 3 or 4 museum ships still afloat around the nation. She is tied up in the river in Lake Charles, LA not far from her birthplace in Orange, TX. Worth visiting if you travel that way.

[Trickie Dick]

I couldn't readily find any pics but my experience with the Navy lasted about a month. I was on the USS George Clymer sailing from Hawaii to Okinawa.
From Wikipedia: In August 1964 she cruised the South China Sea in an advanced state of readiness following the Gulf of Tonkin incident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident). During the summer of 1965 she deployed to South Vietnam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Vietnam), where she participated in amphibious landings at Da Nang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da_Nang)and Chu Lai (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chu_Lai). She participated in further Vietnamese operations in the spring and summer of 1966. She transported Marines from Hawaii to Okinawa in June 1965 in preparation for the 7th Marines' August landing in Chu Lai. Soon after departure from Hawaii, she broke down earning the Marines' title of "Greasy George."
I was with the 7th Marines and landed at Chu Lai. I spent the next 12 lovely months operating out of Chu Lai with the 3rd Battalion.

I find it interesting this may be the only thread ole Bob hasn't put his 2 cents in. Wonder why? I guess he sees us as all unpatriotic since many of us opt to not feel it necessary to continue to play with our weapons of war.

[UtahPete]

I couldn't readily find any pics but my experience with the Navy lasted about a month. I was on the USS George Clymer sailing from Hawaii to Okinawa.
From Wikipedia: In August 1964 she cruised the South China Sea in an advanced state of readiness following the Gulf of Tonkin incident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident). During the summer of 1965 she deployed to South Vietnam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Vietnam), where she participated in amphibious landings at Da Nang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da_Nang)and Chu Lai (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chu_Lai).

She participated in further Vietnamese operations in the spring and summer of 1966. She transported Marines from Hawaii to Okinawa in June 1965 in preparation for the 7th Marines' August landing in Chu Lai. Soon after departure from Hawaii, she broke down earning the Marines' title of "Greasy George." I was with the 7th Marines and landed at Chu Lai. I spent the next 12 lovely months operating out of Chu Lai with the 3rd Battalion.

I find it interesting this may be the only thread ole Bob hasn't put his 2 cents in. Wonder why? I guess he sees us as all unpatriotic since many of us opt to not feel it necessary to continue to play with our weapons of war.

That ship has an interesting history, as told here; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_George_Clymer_(APA-27). USS George Clymer (APA-27) was an Arthur Middleton-class (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Middleton-class_attack_transport) attack transport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_transport) that saw service with the US Navy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy) in four wars - World War II (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II), the Chinese Civil War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War), the Korean War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War) and the Vietnam War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War).

I'll bet you had mixed emotions debarking, considering where you were headed.

You guys heading into the jungle to confront the NVA and Viet Cong are the real heroes of that war, IMHO. Thanks for your service and happy to see you got back to tell the tale.

Yes, I hear you about those who think defending the NRA somehow makes them patriots.

[RinconRyder]

I couldn't readily find any pics but my experience with the Navy lasted about a month. I was on the USS George Clymer sailing from Hawaii to Okinawa.
From Wikipedia: In August 1964 she cruised the South China Sea in an advanced state of readiness following the Gulf of Tonkin incident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident). During the summer of 1965 she deployed to South Vietnam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Vietnam), where she participated in amphibious landings at Da Nang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da_Nang)and Chu Lai (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chu_Lai). She participated in further Vietnamese operations in the spring and summer of 1966. She transported Marines from Hawaii to Okinawa in June 1965 in preparation for the 7th Marines' August landing in Chu Lai. Soon after departure from Hawaii, she broke down earning the Marines' title of "Greasy George."
I was with the 7th Marines and landed at Chu Lai. I spent the next 12 lovely months operating out of Chu Lai with the 3rd Battalion.

I find it interesting this may be the only thread ole Bob hasn't put his 2 cents in. Wonder why? I guess he sees us as all unpatriotic since many of us opt to not feel it necessary to continue to play with our weapons of war.

I don't remember all the ships with which we operated during 1965 but it was a very busy year. USS Orleck spent most of her time along the coast and Chu Lai, Da Nang and Nha Trang were three of our most popular areas for shore bombardment. We were there in Chu Lai when the Marines went ashore as well as Da Nang. Glad to know you came home OK.

[Navvet]

I don't have a lot of unit pics handy, too busy for photo's:cheers:..... But I was stationed at;

Great Lakes (2 years electronics school)
US NAVFAC Brawdy, Wales
DE/FF-1092 USS TC Hart
NAS Norforlk
Joint Task Force Middle East (Staff)
Latina Italy (Nato Training base)
Nato Communications Facility, Norfolk

And my wife was at;

Naval Air Station Beeville, Tx
Great Lakes (2 years electronics school)
Back to Naval Air Station Beeville, Tx for another tour
AD-44 USS Shenedoah
Latina Italy (Nato Training base)
Nato Communications Facility, Norfolk
CVN-75 USS Harry S Truman
Naval Recruiting District Raleigh, NC (The first time we were ever able to live together)

Just a couple of old retired Chiefs. :coffee::coffee::coffee:

[UtahPete]

Naval Recruiting District Raleigh, NC (The first time we were ever able to live together) Just a couple of old retired Chiefs. :coffee::coffee::coffee:

I'll never forget, on my last overseas deployment aboard the USS Long Beach, I was up on deck, and went over to where one of the Chiefs was hanging on the rail staring blankly at the horizon. He seemed a little 'down' although I knew he was retiring soon after 30 years' service. I asked him what was going on.

He said "Well, Nixon, it's like this...my wife and I have been happily married for my entire career even though I've been gone a lot. Now I'm about to retire and we're going to be spending every day together with no respite in sight. It's worked out well so far; my wife was boss of the home front and used to running her own show. When I came home on leave, it was like a honeymoon all over again and I was treated like a valued guest at a 4-star resort. I'm just not sure we're going to be able to hold it together if I'm around all the time!"

That's when I decided to end my career at 10 years.

[UtahPete]

I don't have a lot of unit pics handy, too busy for photo's:cheers:..... But I was stationed at; DE/FF-1092 USS TC Hart and my wife was at; AD-44 USS Shenedoah Just a couple of old retired Chiefs. :coffee::coffee::coffee:

AD-44 USS Shenandoah (Destroyer Tender) 160717

DE/FF-1092 USS TC Hart (Destroyer Escort / Fast Frigate) 160718 I believe it is still on duty with the Turkish Navy.

[pitzerwm]

Congrats to all of you for surviving. I was to be on the Forestal when it blew up off of Vietnam, but I met a Capt. in charge of the Memphis base hospital and he didn't believe in the Vietnam war when he found out where I was going, he hid me in the hospital until those orders were cancelled. I would have been where the guys that died were. AQF shop.

I happened to be in SE Asia in 2009, for you of those that never went back. Da Nang base is still there like a surplus whatever, but across the road, in both directions as far as the eye can see are Condos, casinos, golf courses and luxury resorts. Capitalism in Vietnam is rampant, it is amazing to see. I'm not sure how the government handles it, but if you want to open a business you need to find a Vietnamese partner.

Being ADD with authority issues, I wasn't worth a damn, but I did use my time wisely and made it out with an honourable discharge.

[UtahPete]

I was to be on the Forestal when it blew up off of Vietnam, but I met a Capt. in charge of the Memphis base hospital and he didn't believe in the Vietnam war when he found out where I was going, he hid me in the hospital until those orders were cancelled. I would have been where the guys that died were. AQF shop.

Thank you for your service, and for the story. Where did you serve, if not on the Forrestal?

The USS Forrestal is a storied, conventionally powered aircraft carrier that was the largest carrier built at that time. The fire in 1967 resulted from a shortage of modern munitions available for the intensive bombing runs, resulting in some old WWII munitions being brought out of storage and used aboard the carrier. The riveting story can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire

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[pitzerwm]

I was at Virginia Beach AQ84 , then 11 months on the Independence, Caribbean, and the Med. IMO the Forrestal was jinked. It had that incident (McCain was in the lead plane, 139 killed) repaired sent to the Med to replace the Roosevelt. Back then normal attrition of dead was 12 on a 9-month cruise. We lost our 12, all negligent over the 9 months. You also had so many fires, a major one every month, as we did. The Forrestal lost their 12 men in the 30 days going to the Med, and had major fires all of the time.

[UtahPete]

I was at Virginia Beach AQ84 , then 11 months on the Independence, Caribbean, and the Med. IMO the Forrestal was jinked. It had that incident (McCain was in the lead plane, 139 killed) repaired sent to the Med to replace the Roosevelt. Back then normal attrition of dead was 12 on a 9-month cruise. We lost our 12, all negligent over the 9 months. You also had so many fires, a major one every month, as we did. The Forrestal lost their 12 men in the 30 days going to the Med, and had major fires all of the time.
Yes, the Forrestal certainly seemed jinxed. I think Senator McCain might have flown his last mission off that ship; not sure about that.

[vided]

"As a naval aviator (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Aviator), McCain flew attack aircraft (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_aircraft) from carriers (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier). During the Vietnam War (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War), he narrowly escaped death in the 1967 Forrestal fire (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire). On his twenty-third bombing mission in October 1967, he was shot down over Hanoi (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanoi) and badly injured. He subsequently endured five and a half years as a prisoner of war (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner_of_war), including periods of torture. In 1968, he refused a North Vietnamese (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Vietnam) offer of early release, because it would have meant leaving before other prisoners who had been held longer. He was released in 1973 after the Paris Peace Accords (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Accords)."

[UtahPete]

"As a naval aviator (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Aviator), McCain flew attack aircraft (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_aircraft) from carriers (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier). During the Vietnam War (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War), he narrowly escaped death in the 1967 Forrestal fire (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire). On his twenty-third bombing mission in October 1967, he was shot down over Hanoi (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanoi) and badly injured. He subsequently endured five and a half years as a prisoner of war (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner_of_war), including periods of torture. In 1968, he refused a North Vietnamese (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Vietnam) offer of early release, because it would have meant leaving before other prisoners who had been held longer. He was released in 1973 after the Paris Peace Accords (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Accords)."
One of the bitter ironies of war; to escape death on the Forrestal only to be shot down and captured and tortured for 5 years in a POW camp. Senator, I will miss your steady voice of reason and quiet strength on the national stage. If only you had chosen an equally credible running mate in 2008, the world might be a very better place today.

[Trickie Dick]

I don't remember all the ships with which we operated during 1965 but it was a very busy year. USS Orleck spent most of her time along the coast and Chu Lai, Da Nang and Nha Trang were three of our most popular areas for shore bombardment. We were there in Chu Lai when the Marines went ashore as well as Da Nang. Glad to know yt rou came home OK. Thanks. I don't remember which ship but I do remember using Naval gunfire in support of a couple of missions we went on later. Damn those things were accurate. Gnat's eye at 10,000 yds. We had a Naval FAC attached to us. I don't know what he said but it worked.

[RinconRyder]

I'll never forget, on my last overseas deployment aboard the USS Long Beach, I was up on deck, and went over to where one of the Chiefs was hanging on the rail staring blankly at the horizon. He seemed a little 'down' although I knew he was retiring soon after 30 years' service. I asked him what was going on.

He said "Well, Nixon, it's like this...my wife and I have been happily married for my entire career even though I've been gone a lot. Now I'm about to retire and we're going to be spending every day together with no respite in sight. It's worked out well so far; my wife was boss of the home front and used to running her own show. When I came home on leave, it was like a honeymoon all over again and I was treated like a valued guest at a 4-star resort. I'm just not sure we're going to be able to hold it together if I'm around all the time!"

That's when I decided to end my career at 10 years.

It is interesting to note that 3 years following my retirement my wife decided to go back to work......and has worked ever since.

[RinconRyder]

Thanks. I don't remember which ship but I do remember using Naval gunfire in support of a couple of missions we went on later. Damn those things were accurate. Gnat's eye at 10,000 yds. We had a Naval FAC attached to us. I don't know what he said but it worked.

Yes, we very rarely had to fire more than 1 or 2 rounds of Willy Peter before the land forces would ask us to "fire for effect".

Unfortunately, they happened to call fire down on their own CP somewhere off Da Nang and we hit it on the first shot. The inquiry as to what happened was the reason I was in that whaleboat in Da Nang harbor. We used to listen to the FAC as they directed fire. They had balls of brass sitting up there in their little fragile Birddog's.

[RinconRyder]

Yes, the Forrestal certainly seemed jinxed. I think Senator McCain might have flown his last mission off that ship; not sure about that.

We referred to the Forrestal as the "Fireball". USS Ranger was another birdfarm with a dubious safety record. They broke down frequently. Meanwhile the old Ticonderoga just chugged along (although their radio shack wasn't so hot).

[pitzerwm]

It is interesting to note that 3 years following my retirement my wife decided to go back to work......and has worked ever since.

One of my lawyers retired at 80, later that year they were celebrating the 60+th anniversary and the wife announced that they were getting a divorce, of course, everyone, especially their kids are going nuts. Then she said, that "she had promised for better or worse, NOT for lunch".

[RinconRyder]

I happened to be in SE Asia in 2009, for you of those that never went back. Da Nang base is still there like a surplus whatever, but across the road, in both directions as far as the eye can see are Condos, casinos, golf courses and luxury resorts. Capitalism in Vietnam is rampant, it is amazing to see. I'm not sure how the government handles it, but if you want to open a business you need to find a Vietnamese partner.


I go to a neighborhood barber shop owned by a Vietnamese woman and have had some very interesting conversations with her regarding the transition of Viet Nam after the war ended. She goes home once per year, usually around Christmas, to visit her extended family and has put together some photo albums of the country today. It is amazing!

When my buddies and I sat aboard my ship hurling shells toward the beaches I told them that if it weren't for the war this place would be an ideal resort area. That is exactly what has happened. Chu Lai and Nha Trang both are now covered in resorts and flower-lined streets with beautiful pink sand beaches. A cousin who was a helo pilot in the army visits Viet Nam frequently to scuba dive and has moved to the P.I. to be closer to Viet Nam.

I can't say the Vietnamese people are any more thrilled with their government than we Americans are with ours but they certainly have made a remarkable recovery.

[UtahPete]

I go to a neighborhood barber shop owned by a Vietnamese woman and have had some very interesting conversations with her regarding the transition of Viet Nam after the war ended. She goes home once per year, usually around Christmas, to visit her extended family and has put together some photo albums of the country today. It is amazing!

When my buddies and I sat aboard my ship hurling shells toward the beaches I told them that if it weren't for the war this place would be an ideal resort area. That is exactly what has happened. Chu Lai and Nha Trang both are now covered in resorts and flower-lined streets with beautiful pink sand beaches. A cousin who was a helo pilot in the army visits Viet Nam frequently to scuba dive and has moved to the P.I. to be closer to Viet Nam.

I can't say the Vietnamese people are any more thrilled with their government than we Americans are with ours but they certainly have made a remarkable recovery.
They are beautiful, resilient people. My tour there turned me into a peace-nik.

[Snowbelt Spyder]

That was the USS Nathanael Greene SSBN-636, one of the Freedom 41 nuclear-powered ballistic missile armed submarines. They were designed, built and operated to act as a deterrent to Soviet aggression in the early years of the Cold War. You must be proud to have served on her.

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Thank you, I am. You know the saying - two types of ships in the Navy....submarines and targets. Although subs are referred to as boats, not ships. Amazing how many nuclear warheads we and the Russians had pointing at each other not that many years ago.