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nealperkins
03-27-2018, 02:20 PM
So I have an 11-month old 2016 Spyder F3T with a bad battery. The dealer will pay for a new battery but I pay about $100 for labor and the dealer trip is 170 miles. So, I'm going to buy and change it myself. What brand(s) are yielding the best results?
Thanks!

Bob Denman
03-27-2018, 02:25 PM
Honestly: I'd still stick with Yuasa... :dontknow:
But I've never had trouble with ANY of them!

Chupaca
03-27-2018, 02:27 PM
Would be nice to know why the OEM battery is said to be bad... YUASA is the best battery for our spyders and I would replace it with the same one. You can find good deals online etc and save. :thumbup:

nealperkins
03-27-2018, 03:00 PM
It’s a YUASA. I’ve only had one and it’s bad, dunno.

papanorm
03-27-2018, 04:04 PM
Three different bikes and three Yuasa batteries suddenly went bad. We couldn’t even jump start them. This has been over the past 25 years though, the most recent one was last summer and it was replaced by the dealer on my wife’s 2015 RTL.

2Paw
03-27-2018, 05:05 PM
I have used Batteries +(plus) in several different bikes with no problems, in fact there was one in my 2012 RT-s when I traded it in.

cptjam
03-27-2018, 05:11 PM
Batteries plus for the least expensive
OEM mid grade
lithium ion for the lightest, most powerful battery. Shorai or Mirai are the two I have used. A bit more expensive, but fantastic!

PistonBlown
03-27-2018, 05:17 PM
One thing to be aware of is that Spyders use Gel batteries (at least my RS does)

If these get really flat then a lot of battery chargers will not charge them which can give the impression they are duff. You need to make sure you're using a Gel compatible charger.

If you haven't got a Gel compatible charger a makeshift alternative is to connect a good battery (doesn't have to be a gel one) and connect it in parallel with jump leads i.e. - to -, + to +. Then attach the charger to the good battery. If the gel battery is good but flat this should get it charging again. The only problem with this approach is that it bypasses the normal safeties on the battery charger so if the gel battery gets hot* or starts hissing then stop.

* It will get warm during charging, hot is the problem.

billybovine
03-27-2018, 05:40 PM
One thing to be aware of is that Spyders use Gel batteries (at least my RS does)

If these get really flat then a lot of battery chargers will not charge them which can give the impression they are duff. You need to make sure you're using a Gel compatible charger.

If you haven't got a Gel compatible charger a makeshift alternative is to connect a good battery (doesn't have to be a gel one) and connect it in parallel with jump leads i.e. - to -, + to +. Then attach the charger to the good battery. If the gel battery is good but flat this should get it charging again. The only problem with this approach is that it bypasses the normal safeties on the battery charger so if the gel battery gets hot* or starts hissing then stop.

* It will get warm during charging, hot is the problem.

The OE Yuasa battery is not a Gel battery. Although that is a commonly repeated mistake. It is an AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) battery. The electrolyte is a liquid the same as a standard wet cell battery. It is not a Gel. Standard good quality charger is fine. Chargers with a AGM mode just charge a little faster because AGM batteries can take higher heat without damage. Gel battery are commonly used in electric wheelchairs and mobility scooters.

nealperkins
03-27-2018, 06:45 PM
Quick question please: I thought I heard my dealer tell me the battery was a YPX24HL...could that have been a YTX24HL? (I have the bike parked off-site for the winter).
Thanks!

JerryB
03-27-2018, 07:09 PM
Hi Neal,

Re: Quick question please:

Look here: http://www.yuasabatteries.com/vehicle_search.php?action=showListing

Jerry Baumchen

PS) From my personal experience, Batterys+Bulbs is about 50% more than I could find on-line.

IdahoMtnSpyder
03-27-2018, 07:19 PM
Quick question please: I thought I heard my dealer tell me the battery was a YPX24HL...could that have been a YTX24HL? (I have the bike parked off-site for the winter).
Thanks!
YTX24HL is what you want. If you order it online you'll probably have to get a bottle fill package, -BS on the part number. Be sure to put the acid in and let it soak for a day or two BEFORE you connect a charger to it. If the dealer didn't prep your battery properly that may be why it's gone kaput!

Wildrice
03-27-2018, 07:20 PM
So I have an 11-month old 2016 Spyder F3T with a bad battery. The dealer will pay for a new battery but I pay about $100 for labor and the dealer trip is 170 miles. So, I'm going to buy and change it myself. What brand(s) are yielding the best results?
Thanks!

Did you have a battery tender on it over the Winter storage months ?? Once any bike/car battery is completely drained--it will fail again--usually within a month or two. YUSA is a good brand but every mfg has an occasional flaw/
Good Luck,
Darrell

nealperkins
03-27-2018, 09:14 PM
Did you have a battery tender on it over the Winter storage months ?? Once any bike/car battery is completely drained--it will fail again--usually within a month or two. YUSA is a good brand but every mfg has an occasional flaw/
Good Luck,
Darrell

Yes always on a tender and showing green. Now it won’t take a charge.

Guys, thanks for the help.

PistonBlown
03-27-2018, 11:03 PM
The OE Yuasa battery is not a Gel battery. Although that is a commonly repeated mistake. It is an AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) battery. The electrolyte is a liquid the same as a standard wet cell battery. It is not a Gel. Standard good quality charger is fine. Chargers with a AGM mode just charge a little faster because AGM batteries can take higher heat without damage. Gel battery are commonly used in electric wheelchairs and mobility scooters.

Yep your right, just checked mine and its a MotoBatt AGM battery not gel as I thought. I did have to use that trick I mentioned to charge it when I accidently left the ignition on. But my charger is old and basic e.g. the only 'setting' it has is a switch for 6V or 12V:-)

nealperkins
03-28-2018, 12:21 PM
I ordered the Interstate one. I'd kick myself if I ordered another Yuasa and it turned out badly as well.

Is there a 'trick of the trade' to change the battery and maintain the Sypder's settings?

Thanks for all the help guys!

scarecrow
03-28-2018, 03:27 PM
I put a Stinger in my 2014 RTS

trikermutha
03-28-2018, 05:52 PM
100 bucks for labor to put in a battery. :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

I just have then give you the battery and do it yourself.

nealperkins
03-28-2018, 07:19 PM
Oh, don't worry, I tried that. They said I had to bring the bike in...trailering it? for 170 miles and they had to remove it and then CanAm would 'give' me a free battery...plus the one hour of labor. CanAm is not real strong on warranty work (understatement). I spent a lot of money on diagnosing and repairing my very rough ride...I try not to think about that one.