BRP Automatic rear air suspention kit

[PanzerGriff]

So first off I, with great regret and sadness, do not own a spyder. Yet! But as I was going through the build and price thing on the BRP site, one of the options was the automatic rear air suspention kit for the F3. I was just curious if it would be worth it to get it when I do make my final choices. Thank you for the input.

[Bob Denman]

If you prefer to NOT have to fool with the rear suspension settings: yes! :thumbup:
I added the ACS to my 2010 RT A&C, and it came standard on my 2014 RT-L
The new bikes have it set up to be completed autonomous: there's no need to EVER touch it!

[Mikey]

I think if your one to haul a trailer now and then, the answer would be yes. My feelings on my RTL, if I have problems with my pump or what not I will hook it up to manually adjust it and forget it. If I take a long trip and haul more than normal , pump it up some, then lower it when I get home. I haven't had any troubles with it so far but a lot of people on here have. As far as ride quality, I think you could get a better ride with a nice after market adjustable shock. Even on my snowmobiles once I have it dialed in I don't mess with after that for the most part. After owning the system I think I would save the money for after market IMO!! Good luck!

[Bob Denman]

None of the trailer weight is carried by the rear suspension: the hitch is attached to the swingarm. nojoke

[bushrat]

One of the major and decisive selling points for us, when we bought our 2017 F3L, was the fact that it came already equipped with automated rear suspension, along with the added rear top case and integrated passenger back rest. We wanted something that would provide great two-up riding potential in comfort and safety. We started out thinking that would be an RTL Spyder, but my hips just never felt comfortable in the RT seat/riding position ergonomics. Then, my missus said that she preferred the rear seating of the F3L to that of the RTL, and also liked being on the slightly smaller bike. It is very much a matter of personal preference and seating comfort which Spyder ergonomics (F3 or RT) you eventually choose. When it then comes to deciding which features to have or not have, and how much you can afford to build in to your chosen bike platform, that's for your wallet to decide, but our year of riding experience would suggest that you will be very happy with the automated rear suspension - no need to play around with it, since it takes care of itself. Our ryding, whether solo or two-up, has been carefree and always enjoyable and comfortable. The automated rear suspension and rear top case of the F3L place it on the most equivalent level of comparison to the RTL, as far as features go; the true difference then comes down to a choice between ergonomics. If you are thinking of doing any amount of two-up ryding on an F3 platform, I would encourage you to go with the automated rear suspension, and seriously consider the F3L, if you can afford it. It is a very able and totally fun machine.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

From the vast comments about this ( over the years ) about the Auto system ...... it fails a lot ...... The Manual one has a much better track record, because maybe it's a lot simpler .......... On the auto one the motor dies an early death because the computer tells it to make an adjustment constantly. Any motor has useful life - the more you use it the quicker it dies ...... my RT has a Manual FILL, in the past 36,000 + miles I may have added or reduced Pressure about three dozen times. Not exactly a chore all things considered ......But some folks need EVERY possible thing done for them automatically ..... and you have to pay for that one way or the other ............ A few years ago BRP equipped the RT with an Electric Frunk opening latch ... Well they don't anymore because it failed a lot and left folks un-able to open the Frunk :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: ........ jmho ..... good luck ..... Mike :thumbup:

[R FUN]

I switched my RTL to manual adjustment and never had another problem. Easy to adjust and trouble free. I changed my buddys RTL when his also failed and he only needs to check it once a year. Like last post too much automatic BS to fail.
Roger

[Bob Denman]

A few years ago BRP equipped the RT with an Electric Frunk opening latch ... Well they don't anymore because it failed a lot and left folks un-able to open the Frunk :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: ........ jmho ..... good luck ..... Mike :thumbup:
Sorry Mike: they removed the remote power Frunklid popper; because folks were accidentally releasing their parking brakes, and the bikes were rolling away...
There were a fair amount of complaints made to NHTSA about it...

[Mikey]

Sorry Mike: they removed the remote power Frunklid popper; because folks were accidentally releasing their parking brakes, and the bikes were rolling away...
There were a fair amount of complaints made to NHTSA about it...
Hey Bob, so what about the rest of what he said, is that true or what? Some times you get to be a negative Nelly!

[Bob Denman]

"because it failed a lot"...
There's nothing quantitative in that comment; that can be confirmed or denied. :dontknow:
There's a micro-switch in the assembly that is easily bent. Straightening the arm on it gets you back up and running in no time! :thumbup:
If he's including those "Self-induced" failures in his statement (which I doubt....); then I would have to disagree.

[Cruzr Joe]

"because it failed a lot"...
There's nothing quantitative in that comment; that can be confirmed or denied. :dontknow:
There's a micro-switch in the assembly that is easily bent. Straightening the arm on it gets you back up and running in no time! :thumbup:
If he's including those "Self-induced" failures in his statement (which I doubt....); then I would have to disagree.

:agree::agree::agree:

Cruzr Joe

[SpyderAnn01]

From the vast comments about this ( over the years ) about the Auto system ...... it fails a lot ...... The Manual one has a much better track record, because maybe it's a lot simpler .......... On the auto one the motor dies an early death because the computer tells it to make an adjustment constantly. Any motor has useful life - the more you use it the quicker it dies ...... my RT has a Manual FILL, in the past 36,000 + miles I may have added or reduced Pressure about three dozen times. Not exactly a chore all things considered ......But some folks need EVERY possible thing done for them automatically ..... and you have to pay for that one way or the other ............ A few years ago BRP equipped the RT with an Electric Frunk opening latch ... Well they don't anymore because it failed a lot and left folks un-able to open the Frunk :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: ........ jmho ..... good luck ..... Mike :thumbup:

Many, many people with the manual system are riding around with zero air in it because they either didn’t know they have to fill it, or because they never check it. When we do alignments Joe jacks up the rear so we can check the belt, and if he can’t get the jack under it we check for air in the rear bag. We find lots of them empty and the owner totally unaware of the compressor or bag failure. Dealers also do a bad job of informing new owners about the need to add air in the manual systems. They also tend to not add air at the initial setup